GLENN: It's not that the world is upside down. It's just the maps have been wrong. And Dennis Rodman is our hero. This is -- I mean, this makes sense. Dennis Rodman is the guy who is going to come in and save us. I don't know if you saw, he did an interview in England about Kim Jong-un, and he is the guy to send in.
Now, that may sound crazy, but once you listen to him, you realize, "No, we need to listen to him a little bit more."
VOICE: You spent a lot of time with Kim Jong-un.
Is he mad? Is he stupid? How would you describe him as a human being?
DENNIS: You know, it's amazing how we became such good friends with Russia all of a sudden, with Donald Trump.
And for years and years, over the course of time, we became such a good -- have a great relationship with Russia all of a sudden in America. But for some reason, with North Korea, we have a big issue. And for me to go over there to see him as much as I have, I basically hang out with him all the time. We laugh. We sing karaoke. We do a lot of cool things together.
GLENN: Okay. Stop. Stop.
STU: This is awesome so far.
GLENN: I don't know if you can categorize karaoke as cool ever. I mean, I just don't think so. Yeah, we do a lot of things. You know, two guys, two grown men, you know, we just hang out, do karaoke. I -- no, uh-uh.
STU: Wow, you really have stopped drinking, haven't you? Okay. All right. It's now confirmed.
GLENN: I have. No, I don't think that's -- that's cool. And, you know, we just hang out. We play karaoke. And, you know, we don't talk politics, you know, or the hundreds of thousands of people that he's got starving in concentration camps. You know, we just hang out and talk about the important things.
STU: It's not really an uplifting conversation, the whole concentration camp thing.
GLENN: No, but maybe it's something that you might want to bring up.
DENNIS: We ride horses. We hang out and go skiing. And we hardly ever talk politics. And that's the good thing about that.
DENNIS: To me, I think if the president even tries to reach out for Kim, I think it would be a great possibility things could happen. If Donald Trump, they just sit down and have some type of mutual conversation -- it don't have to be like a friendship conversation, just a mutual conversation, say, "Hi, I would love to engage in some words and politics and over the history of your country and my country."
DENNIS: And just try to start some dialogue. I think that would open -- maybe the door a little bit.
GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. Because, you know, we -- I want to hear the history of our country and your country. And the lack of concentration camps in our country and the reliance on the concentration camps in your country.
STU: The plethora of concentration camps in --
GLENN: Yeah. I don't know why, maybe it's just me, but the whole concentration camp thing seems important.
STU: It does. Although, I don't think that's the problem here honestly. The problem here is fundamentally, they want to remain a nuclear power, and we are saying we don't want them to be a nuclear power. And if you can't bridge that gap -- and this is what, by the way, Russia and China are arguing. Just recognize they're a nuclear power. It's over. They're a nuclear power. Go ahead.
GLENN: Yeah, but, you know, we didn't have this problem with -- you know, with India. And even Pakistan. I don't know about you, I've never really been entirely comfortable with Pakistan having nuclear weapons.
STU: No. I wouldn't say I am. No.
GLENN: Yeah, yeah.
STU: However, they have them. And we've accepted them.
STU: So because we've accepted them, we have been able to talk to them.
GLENN: And we're going to have to accept them having them because it's too late to do anything about it. They already have them. So I guess we are going to have to live with them. But I'm not entirely comfortable with a guy -- and, again, maybe I'm focusing too much on the concentration camps. Maybe it's just me.