Bill O’Reilly: Don’t Believe Anything Schumer, Pelosi Say About DACA Deal

President Donald Trump has surprised again with his closeness to Democrat leaders. Last night, he had dinner with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and then appeared to have a change of heart when it comes to deporting illegal immigrants.

Trump tweeted this morning, “Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military?” In a follow-up tweet, he explained the intent behind the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. These immigrants “have been in our country for many years through no fault of their own – brought in by parents at young age,” he wrote.

Bill O’Reilly joined Glenn on radio Thursday to talk about what happened. His theory was that Pelosi and Schumer are using the situation simply to undermine Trump, knowing that his base will be furious if he caves and allows around 800,000 illegal immigrants to remain in the country.

Any statements from Pelosi and Schumer should be ignored, O’Reilly asserted. He reminded listeners that Trump can only approve DACA legislation that goes through Congress, and Republicans will have to write a bill.

“Very difficult for these pinheads to do because that requires them getting out of the gym,” he quipped. “They have to actually go to their desks and write a bill. They don’t like that.”

This article provided courtesy of TheBlaze.

GLENN: Normally on Fridays, we have Mr. Bill O'Reilly, but I am -- I'm actually going to speak and having dinner this weekend with Paul Kagame, the former president of Rwanda, who is an amazing, amazing guy.

And this has proved to be interesting. But I've also been asked to speak at a three-day conference at a place called the Nantucket Project, which tries to bring people together on forgiveness and healing and a way forward.

STU: Same for me. I will be having brunch with Garbon Gooli Burkmenadof from Turkmenistan.

GLENN: Really? That's interesting.

STU: Next Wednesday. 10:30 a.m. IHOP. International pancakes.

GLENN: Right. Really? International -- so it's an international pancake kind of moment.

So, anyway, Bill O'Reilly is with us today, instead of on Friday, which he normally is. But I'm glad he's here because I want to talk to him a lot about the deal -- you know, making a deal with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and the spin that is going to come out of the White House now and the spin that is already coming out from Nancy and Chuck. And where are we going from here? Welcome to the program, Bill O'Reilly from BillO'Reilly.com.

BILL: You are so lucky to have me on this program today. You are.

GLENN: No, I woke up this morning, and I thought to myself, "If I could only get more lucky," and then you were here.

BILL: Yeah, because, I mean, I am going to be able to define this so even you understand it. All right?

GLENN: All right. Go ahead. Talk down to me.

BILL: You are very lucky.

GLENN: Yes, I know.

BILL: But, first, I want to give a plug because I'm having lunch with Ricky Buffunyats.

GLENN: Are you really? Wow.

BILL: Yeah. Who once traveled to Bolivia. And he wants healing.

GLENN: But he's not -- hang on just a second. But he's actually -- he didn't go there for any reason. He just -- he just went one time.

BILL: Yeah. He wanted to be healed, so he went.

GLENN: Okay. All right. Good. Okay.

BILL: I'm going to figure out if he was healed or not.

GLENN: All right. Good. Okay. Jerk.

BILL: All right, Beck. So now -- I got -- I have to now walk you through what's happening on DACA.

GLENN: Yes. All right.

BILL: First of all, Nancy Pelosi and Charles Schumer want to destroy Donald Trump.

GLENN: Yes.

BILL: Fact number one.

GLENN: Should I write this down? Will there be a test?

BILL: Well, have somebody else write it down for you because I know your handwriting.

GLENN: All right. To destroy. Got it.

BILL: Fact number one: Pelosi/Schumer want to destroy Trump.

Fact number two: They know the fastest way to do that is to get Trump's base angry with him.

GLENN: Got it.

Right.

BILL: Okay?

GLENN: All right.

BILL: The quickest way to do that is to turn --

GLENN: Anger his base.

BILL: His supporters against him.

GLENN: Got it. All right.

BILL: So, therefore, anything that Schumer and Pelosi say, throw it right out of the window.

GLENN: Right.

BILL: Okay. That is number one.

GLENN: No, that's number two.

No, this would be number three. Number one was he was going to try to destroy -- number two.

BILL: No, no. But I'm in categories now. We're in categories now.

GLENN: Oh, so that's category A at one and two. And now we're in category B. Go ahead. All right.

BILL: Right.

GLENN: Go ahead. Yes, go ahead.

STU: It's easier with the graphics next to you.

GLENN: Yes, go ahead.

BILL: No one, including the president, knows how this DACA thing is going to turn out. Because the Republicans have to write a bill. Very difficult for these pinheads to do because that requires them getting out of the gym. All right? They have to go to actually go to their desk and write a bill.

GLENN: Right. Right.

BILL: They don't like that. They have to write a bill that says, "All right. Here's the new law that's going to cover 800,000 so-called Dreamers, illegal aliens, who were taken here by their parents." And they had no say about it. They came. And what are we going to do about them?

Republicans write the bill. In that bill, it could be anything. It could be anything. We don't know. All right?

So Trump doesn't have any input as far as what's going to happen to the Dreamers. It's all Congress. All right?

And then the bill comes out and Trump says, "I like it, or I don't like it." Are you with me?

GLENN: I just want to make sure -- A, you didn't give me a topic. But under A is, number one, they're trying to destroy the president. Fastest way to do is anger his base. B, no one knows what is going to be in this bill because it hasn't been written, under that. Point one, Republicans don't like to work. Point two, Republicans could write anything. They could write a bill that replaces Nancy Pelosi with a chicken. I've got it so far.

BILL: Right. Okay. So good. Beck, you're really on it today. I'm so happy.

STU: The Pelosi Chicken Act, I am behind that, by the way.

GLENN: I'm taking notes.

Yes, I am too.

BILL: So all -- all of us loyal Americans who want the best for our country should stop now with the speculation, which gets us nowhere, and wait until this bill comes out.

Now, it is worthy that you and other commentators tell President Trump what you would like to see in the bill. Okay? This is what we --

GLENN: I think we did during the election.

BILL: Well, no. Because the Dreamer thing is a little bit more complicated.

GLENN: No, no, no. No, it's not. Here's what the American people -- here's what I believe the American people were actually saying. Beyond all the hyperbole and everything else. This is the what the American people were actually saying during the election: Look, that is a really complex issue. I don't know what to do. I don't want to hurt people. I'm not a racist. But I want border security.

BILL: Right.

GLENN: Hang on. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. No, no.

BILL: You're going over ground that is inevitable.

GLENN: No, it's not.

BILL: So it's inevitable that the Republicans will put some kind of stringent border security, maybe even a -- city thing in the bill.

They have to and they will. That will be there, Beck. Do not worry about that.

But there are other things that are going to happen. Number one, Trump does not want to deport these dreamers. That's obvious. He doesn't want it. Because he has to expand his base a little bit. And the polls overwhelmingly show that Americans are open to a fair deal for these people. These kids who were brought here. So he's not going to deport 800,000. That's not going to happen.

GLENN: So when he said to -- when he said in interview after interview after interview, yes, they're all going home.

STU: Chuck Todd.

BILL: When he says that, he doesn't think about the Dreamers.

GLENN: No, no, no. It was specifically about the Dreamers. We checked the audio. It was specifically --

BILL: Do you have the audio that Trump said Dreamers are going home.

GLENN: Yes. Hang on. I'll get it for you in a second.

BILL: No, no, no. You don't have to get it for me. I believe you. I believe you.

All right. So that's not going to happen now. It's not, all right? He's not going to deport 800,000.

And I'll tell you why, because I told this to him to his face in an interview: The courts would block that until the year 2099.

GLENN: Yes. You're right.

BILL: Okay. Thank you, Beck. So everybody knows it's not going to happen. So let's stop the BS and get a fair bill that would strengthen border security and anarchy and eliminate anarchy in the United States about illegal immigration.

GLENN: Okay. So my -- I have to go back here, so has the last two years of us saying Little Marco is making a deal with Chuck Schumer and the Gang of Eight, and there's no amnesty. Mark my words, there's no amnesty. It will not happen.

Hang on.

I know you're just clearing the throat. But that means you're about to talk. Hang on.

So the last two years of finger pointing and actually having -- being the catalyst to have half of the country point to the other half and say, "What a bunch of racists you are. You're completely unreasonable. You're lumping everybody in the same boat." All of that -- all of that division, all of that hatred, all of that was for what purpose? For what purpose?

BILL: I don't know, Beck. That's way too complicated for a man like me.

GLENN: No, it's not. You're smart enough. You don't want to answer it. You just don't want to answer it.

BILL: It's way over my head. I just want to tell you what's going to happen.

GLENN: Right.

BILL: All right? I can't -- I can't talk to the president of Rwanda. I can't. I don't have the ability or the intellectual --

GLENN: Yes, you can. You do not want to.

BILL: A man who ran Rwanda. I can't. That's your job. All right?

Here's what's going to happen, all right?

GLENN: Uh-huh.

BILL: There will be some compromise. Trump has already strengthened the border to a degree that we haven't had ever. Ever.

GLENN: Yeah.

BILL: All right?

GLENN: All of the -- all of the -- all of the Republicans, with an exception of maybe Kasich, all of the Republicans, the 17 that he destroyed because they would make a deal with Nancy Pelosi, they were for amnesty, they were for the Gang of Eight, they weren't going to --

BILL: Right.

GLENN: -- you can't believe them. They're going to build a wall, that they're going to -- all of them would have done -- with the exception of John Kasich, exactly what he has done so far, without the division and the hatred and the pitting against each other.

BILL: All right. Maybe that's true -- but the fact -- and I love that word fact -- is that in the six months that he's been sitting there in the Oval Office, immigration on the southern border, all right? Has been enforced more than ever in our lifetime.

GLENN: Yes.

BILL: That's a fact. And it's not going to get any more lax. It will get more stringent. Here's another fact.

GLENN: Until he's gone and replaced by a Republican -- or, a Democrat.

BILL: Until he's gone. And then when the president of Rwanda comes over and runs this --

GLENN: No, don't try to weasel out of this.

That was the point of why we wanted a wall: Because nothing is ever permanent.

BILL: Okay. The magic word wall. You want to know about the wall? Do you have time, or do you have to take a break?

GLENN: Nothing is ever permanent.

BILL: Do you want to know about the wall now, or should we wait?

GLENN: No, I'm going to take a break. And Bill O'Reilly from BillO'Reilly.com is where you can find him. And if you want this kind of fact-driven nonsense, you can find it at BillO'Reilly.com. Back in just a second.

BILL: And I want to talk the statues too.

GLENN: Believe me, I've got a list of things to talk to you about.

(chuckling)

STU: BillO'Reilly.com is where you can go for the podcast. And hopefully he'll be referencing the Paul Kagame statue we're going to be talking about.

GLENN: Shut up. Shut up.

GLENN: So what's the wall, is what I ask to Bill O'Reilly? What's the wall about?

BILL: Number one fact -- all right? We're back to the facts. I know that upsets you.

Okay. There's not going to be any wall in the bill about the Dreamers. Because that would mobilize opposition from 100 percent of the Democrats and some Republicans as well. So they're not going to have that in there, in the bill.

Now, some people will be angry about that. But step back. Trump is going to build his wall. He doesn't need legislation to build it. He can do it by executive order. He can do it by using Homeland Security funds, of which there are gazillions of dollars available. He can do it and he will do it. But it's not going to be a wall from Brownsville, San Diego. It's not going to be that. It's going to be in certain places where it's easier to smuggle narcotics. The wall is basically a detriment against narcotics, not people, all right?

So they will build some of it. It will come from orders from Donald Trump. But it's not going to be enshrined anywhere because it's too polarizing. So that's what's going to happen.

GLENN: That stands against, Bill O'Reilly, absolutely everything I stand for as a constitutionalist.

BILL: I know it does.

GLENN: What you've just described is, as a constitutionalist, you have said, through executive order, he will do things that are temporary. I am against it as a constitutionalist, and I am against it as somebody --

BILL: Maybe they can knock it down if you elect Bernie Sanders. But you have to live in the real world. And the real world is two things here: Trump knows he has to build the wall. Some semblance of it. He has to. All right? And he will. But he's not going to get permission from Congress to do it because there are not enough votes there.

It's as simple as that. So you've got to live in the real world, Beck, if you want to get anything done at all. I understand the constitutionalists. I understand that.

But, you know, this is hand-to-hand combat. Donald Trump going to survive the presidency. He's going to get reelected. All right? He's got to do certain things that you're just not going to like.

GLENN: So when he says -- can we play audio cut five, please. This is President Trump talking about taxes. Cut five. Do you have it? Okay. Sorry about that.

STU: Yeah. Because I -- I'm curious on that because I -- he obviously said during the campaign that it was going to be a wall that went for the whole border. He did say that.

BILL: He said a lot of things. But he doesn't understand at that point what it takes to get that stuff done.

GLENN: So hang on -- this is a 59-second cut. Let me just read this. Taxes paid by the wealthy will likely stay the same under the new tax plan, but if they have to go higher, they're going to go higher.

BILL: Uh-huh.

GLENN: What -- which -- what does he stand for, Bill? What can I trust?

BILL: He's trying to be a populist. He's trying to appeal to working class and middle class voters. He knows that's where his base is. So that's what he stands for.

GLENN: Is that healthy for a country? Populism, is it good?

BILL: I would like to see populism combined with astute analysis. I think if you got a politician who had both, who, you know, really felt for the working people, but was astute in how to get things done, then you'd have something. But we don't seem to be able to produce politicians --

(laughter)

GLENN: All right. When we come back, Bill O'Reilly is going to take on a couple of things. One, the statues.

BILL: Yes!

GLENN: And we'll talk a little bit about that. Also -- because it's getting crazy.

Also, we're going to try to get to the latest from ESPN. And I know how much Bill O'Reilly loves Hillary Clinton. And has probably spent all week just up late at night reading her book. Her -- her latest poll numbers show most Americans want her to go away. Bill's opinion, coming up.

GLENN: I'm really tired of hearing people's opinion. There are very few people's opinion that matter to me. I mean, I barely -- I barely have my own opinion. Everybody has one. I got it.

What I'm interested in, facts and perspective. And one of the best is Bill O'Reilly. And we welcome him to the program from BillO'Reilly.com.

I'm going to be gone tomorrow. I'm having dinner with Winston Churchill tomorrow night. So I will not be here. But we're going to talk about peace and war and everything in between. And I'll give you a report on that on Monday. But, Bill O'Reilly, give me the facts on what's happening with the statues.

BILL: All right. I think you and I are of one mind on this because very early on, after Robert E. Lee's statue was the subject of that incredible controversy in Charlottesville, we both said, "It's not going to end with Lee. They're coming after Washington and Jefferson and other Founding Fathers." You said that to, I believe. Correct?

GLENN: Yes, I did. Yep.

BILL: Okay. We both said it. Not in collusion. There were no Russian collusion here.

GLENN: Oh, I don't know. Zionist masters.

BILL: Back on his Blaze and O'Reilly on BillO'Reilly.com said it independently. All right. So now it's happened.

So Black Lives Matter and other radical groups are demanding that Thomas Jefferson's statue be taken down in Charlottesville. Jefferson founded the University of Virginia, which is there, and lived there.

Okay. So this plays right into my wheelhouse because I have a book coming out Tuesday called Killing England.

GLENN: Shut up. Shut up. I thought, if there was a way I could get Bill O'Reilly to talk about his book.

BILL: No, this is a legitimate way. This is a legitimate way. Because I write about Thomas Jefferson --

GLENN: Shut up. Shut up.

BILL: The man, what he did about, in slavery, and how he had slaves, and how he behaved, and his whole life.

GLENN: You know, Bill, can I ask you a question about Thomas Jefferson?

BILL: Yeah.

GLENN: First of all, how do we get the word out that Thomas Jefferson led the fight in Virginia to try to be able to release his slaves? It was --

BILL: So that's in the book. But you're missing --

GLENN: Yeah, but I'm saying in some way that people will read it or find it.

BILL: Let me illuminate. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. All right.

BILL: In order to win this debate, Beck, traditional Americans have to know the facts. They have to know what Thomas Jefferson just did. You just said it. You just said it. That the man was very conflicted about slavery. And we -- in Killing England, you'll see exactly how conflicted he was and what he did. And the other --

GLENN: I don't think so.

BILL: -- actions that led to our independence.

GLENN: Hang on just a second. I don't think he was. He's the guy who said, "Because I know God is just, I tremble for my country." That was about slavery.

BILL: No, but he -- he agonized about the line, "All men are created equal." He agonized about it.

GLENN: Yes, he did do that. Yes, he did.

BILL: Because he said, we're not including African-Americans.

GLENN: Yes.

BILL: So if you read the book, he's a conflicted man on the issue, okay? But the overarch of what he did, what George Washington did -- because they're going to come after Washington, he was a slave owner too -- is amazing. And you got to know that in order to ward off the far left kooks. Now, why are they doing the statues? Here's what it's all about, Beck. It's not about the statues. Of Lee or Jefferson or Washington or any of that. It's about undermining the entire Constitution of this country. The far left believes that we are a nation founded by white supremacists. Okay?

And that our Constitution reflects that. So we got to do away with that and have a new Constitution. That's what this is all about. That you run down the Founding Fathers, you run down the philosophy on which the country was founded, and you replace it with a socialist manifesto.

Now, you're going to say, "Oh, O'Reilly is the conspiratorialist." No. This is exactly the conversations that are taking place within the precincts of Black Lives Matter, the Antifa movement, and some in the mainstream media who sympathize with that.

Now you can segue into Jemele Hill, the girl on ESPN, the woman on ESPN, okay? Who tweets that Trump is a white supremacist and that he's surrounded about him. Now, you got a question about Hill?

GLENN: I didn't want to transition there. But all of a sudden, I lost control of the show. I'd like to go back to the Star-Spangled Banner and the fight on slavery.

It is incumbent upon each of us, and Bill is -- and I -- it kills me to promote his stupid freaking book. But he is right. And his book does cover this. And we need to know who these people were.

When it comes to the Star-Spangled Banner, the fifth stanza is all about slavery: When our land is illuminated with liberty's smile, if a foe -- glory -- down, down, the traitor who dares to defile her flag of stars and the pages of her story. By the millions unchained, who our birthright have gained, we will keep her bright, blazing, forever unstained.

There -- yesterday, they went after Francis Scott Key. This is revisionist history, and it has to stop.

BILL: Well, it's only going to stop if the people rise up.

GLENN: No, if the people educate --

BILL: Folks are afraid to do this.

GLENN: I think you're wrong on that. I think it will only happen when the people educate themselves, then they will rise up.

BILL: Okay. You rise up with education, and you're effective.

GLENN: Yes.

BILL: You rise up with emotion and you don't own anything, it's not effective.

GLENN: We are only slaves -- we are truly -- we are slaves to lies right now. We are slaves to others, who are manipulating us because we have not done what every slave, as soon as they became free, the first thing they did was try to get an education. Try to learn. Try to read.

We're not doing any of it. And we're chaining ourselves. And we're going to be slaves of some other master if we don't educate ourselves.

BILL: Well, that's very well said. And, again, I'm lucky in a sense that when I wrote Killing England, I didn't any idea that within a year, the Antifa movement and the socialistic movement would be as intimidating as it is now. But I'm glad I wrote the book. It's almost a miracle, because if you want to know who Jefferson, Washington, and Benjamin Franklin actually were as people and you read the book, you'll know.

GLENN: Jeez, will you stop with the damn book?

BILL: So you can fight off the forces of darkness. Because they're coming.

GLENN: All I wanted to do was talk about ESPN. And now he's just going on.

So hang on. Here's the question about ESPN.

BILL: Thank you.

GLENN: The big thing on ESPN -- everybody is saying, "They've got a double standard." No, they don't. This is the same standard. You will fire anyone who has a nonprogressive, big government view -- or a small government view, and you will cheer on and excuse anyone who has a progressive, PC, pro-big government view. They're completely consistent.

BILL: Well, they've destroyed the network.

GLENN: Yes.

BILL: All right? So ESPN is a shadow of what it used to be. And it's not coming back. All right?

So that's number one. And the reason is, people watch that network for sports, not to have somebody like Jemele Hill accuse a president and his cabinet of being white supremacists. They don't watch for that. You know, MSNBC should hire the woman, because that's what they do. Okay?

GLENN: So, Bill, have you ever heard anybody ever even question -- even question the president and his relationship with race? So, in other words, have you ever heard anyone say things like, "I think this president may be a racist. I think this president may have a deep, dark, unsettled feeling about white people?"

Have you ever heard anybody say that? Because I remember somebody did. And they questioned what the intent was, and it was heralded as the biggest mistake on planet earth. How dare you ever question that. And now somebody at ESPN can say -- not question -- not question. But to make the statement, he's a white supremacist.

BILL: Right.

GLENN: And everybody is fine.

BILL: Well, not everybody is fine. There's a big, big controversy about it. I don't think the woman should be fired.

GLENN: Not on the left.

BILL: Although -- not on the left because they concur.

GLENN: Yes.

BILL: But, you know, they fired Curt Schilling. And, you know, he --

GLENN: They did the same thing.

BILL: He was --

GLENN: He did the same thing.

BILL: No, it was a little bit more. Because Schilling had an illustration of a transgendered person that was pretty offensive, I would say.

GLENN: I don't remember it exactly. So I'd have to go back and look.

BILL: But they could have suspended him, and they could have brought him back. But they don't -- they being Disney. Disney runs -- and a lot of people don't know this: Disney owns ESPN.

GLENN: Right.

BILL: But Disney doesn't have, as you pointed out, any respect for the conservative American thought process.

But I wouldn't fire the woman. I don't think that's the right way to handle it. I think that you basically say to her, "You don't really know what you're talking about, with all due respect, Ms. Hill. All right? This isn't going on here. And the fact that you believe it is -- you're entitled to that, but you're in a position of responsibility, particularly with younger African-Americans, and you're really abusing that because you can't back that statement up. You can't back it up. And what you're doing is you're denigrating the country just like Colin Kaepernick did. And, you know, if people object to that, their views are just as viable as your views. So you're going to have to take what comes, which is criticism and lower ratings, because that's where it's going."

STU: And, Bill, I think this is what you're saying. But, I mean, in fact, they handle these situations many different ways. The Jemele Hill way is the way they actually should handle it. Right?

They should come in and say, "It's your own private thing. We don't think that's the right way for you to be handling this, especially if people might think it's from ESPN. But you know, whatever. We'll give you a little slap on the wrist or at least a talking to or whatever, and you'll come back and do the show." The problem is how they handle all the other cases.

BILL: Yeah, I mean, with Schilling -- but with Schilling, he had that cartoon.

GLENN: But you really don't have to go to Schilling. You really don't have to go to Schilling. Chink in the armor. Guerrilla warfare. I mean, there's two people that lost their jobs for phrases that have nothing to do with race. And they went crazy.

BILL: Yeah, well, there's no doubt there's a double standard. There's hypocrisy all over the place. But I think traditional Americans who believe in fairness have to rise above the hypocrisy. And you know what, here's what you do: You just don't watch. You just don't watch.

And that's going on now for years. They've been bailing out of ESPN for years. And other networks that are not honest or doing something that the folks deem offensive, don't watch.

GLENN: I will tell you this, if you really want to make an impact, you don't watch, of course -- but if you really want to make an impact, you let Disney know, "I'm not taking my kids to your park," because they only care about the mouse. That's all they care about.

BILL: That would do it.

Look, every corporation, it's money first. There's no doubt about it. And on that note, we want everybody to preorder Killing England. It's coming out Tuesday.

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STU: That's a solid segue right there.

BILL: There you go.

GLENN: Bill, do I have to endure this again on Tuesday when it comes out?

BILL: Tuesday and next Friday.

GLENN: I don't know if I can do two times a week.

BILL: All right. We'll get you some oxygen, and we'll do what we have to do.

GLENN: Bill, believe me, there's enough air here, hot air when you're around. I don't need anymore.

Bill, good to have you, thank you. We'll talk to you again.

BILL: All right. Thanks for having me in.

GLENN: You bet. Bye.

STU: Bill O'Reilly, the book is called Killing England. It is coming out on Tuesday. You, of course, can also go to his website and sign up at BillO'Reilly.com.

GLENN: You know, I love -- I love -- I really love my relationship with Bill O'Reilly. Same with Don Imus. You know, here are two guys that are -- they didn't -- they are the legends -- they are the legends of their generation. They're the ones that I -- that I watched for years. And they are -- they both can hit hard and take a punch. And neither of them insists that you agree with them, which is the way it's supposed to be.

PAT: I will say, Bill is much more -- is much happier --

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

STU: It's remarkable --

GLENN: He's happy now.

STU: Because when he was doing the Fox thing, he would come on the show.

GLENN: No, he's happy.

STU: And do his thing. He seems like he's actually enjoying life these days.

Is the U.N. plotting to control 30% of U.S. land by 2030?

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A reliable conservative senator faces cancellation for listening to voters. But the real threat to public lands comes from the last president’s backdoor globalist agenda.

Something ugly is unfolding on social media, and most people aren’t seeing it clearly. Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) — one of the most constitutionally grounded conservatives in Washington — is under fire for a housing provision he first proposed in 2022.

You wouldn’t know that from scrolling through X. According to the latest online frenzy, Lee wants to sell off national parks, bulldoze public lands, gut hunting and fishing rights, and hand America’s wilderness to Amazon, BlackRock, and the Chinese Communist Party. None of that is true.

Lee’s bill would have protected against the massive land-grab that’s already under way — courtesy of the Biden administration.

I covered this last month. Since then, the backlash has grown into something like a political witch hunt — not just from the left but from the right. Even Donald Trump Jr., someone I typically agree with, has attacked Lee’s proposal. He’s not alone.

Time to look at the facts the media refuses to cover about Lee’s federal land plan.

What Lee actually proposed

Over the weekend, Lee announced that he would withdraw the federal land sale provision from his housing bill. He said the decision was in response to “a tremendous amount of misinformation — and in some cases, outright lies,” but also acknowledged that many Americans brought forward sincere, thoughtful concerns.

Because of the strict rules surrounding the budget reconciliation process, Lee couldn’t secure legally enforceable protections to ensure that the land would be made available “only to American families — not to China, not to BlackRock, and not to any foreign interests.” Without those safeguards, he chose to walk it back.

That’s not selling out. That’s leadership.

It's what the legislative process is supposed to look like: A senator proposes a bill, the people respond, and the lawmaker listens. That was once known as representative democracy. These days, it gets you labeled a globalist sellout.

The Biden land-grab

To many Americans, “public land” brings to mind open spaces for hunting, fishing, hiking, and recreation. But that’s not what Sen. Mike Lee’s bill targeted.

His proposal would have protected against the real land-grab already under way — the one pushed by the Biden administration.

In 2021, Biden launched a plan to “conserve” 30% of America’s lands and waters by 2030. This effort follows the United Nations-backed “30 by 30” initiative, which seeks to place one-third of all land and water under government control.

Ask yourself: Is the U.N. focused on preserving your right to hunt and fish? Or are radical environmentalists exploiting climate fears to restrict your access to American land?

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As it stands, the federal government already owns 640 million acres — nearly one-third of the entire country. At this rate, the government will hit that 30% benchmark with ease. But it doesn’t end there. The next phase is already in play: the “50 by 50” agenda.

That brings me to a piece of legislation most Americans haven’t even heard of: the Sustains Act.

Passed in 2023, the law allows the federal government to accept private funding from organizations, such as BlackRock or the Bill Gates Foundation, to support “conservation programs.” In practice, the law enables wealthy elites to buy influence over how American land is used and managed.

Moreover, the government doesn’t even need the landowner’s permission to declare that your property contributes to “pollination,” or “photosynthesis,” or “air quality” — and then regulate it accordingly. You could wake up one morning and find out that the land you own no longer belongs to you in any meaningful sense.

Where was the outrage then? Where were the online crusaders when private capital and federal bureaucrats teamed up to quietly erode private property rights across America?

American families pay the price

The real danger isn’t in Mike Lee’s attempt to offer more housing near population centers — land that would be limited, clarified, and safeguarded in the final bill. The real threat is the creeping partnership between unelected global elites and our own government, a partnership designed to consolidate land, control rural development, and keep Americans penned in so-called “15-minute cities.”

BlackRock buying entire neighborhoods and pricing out regular families isn’t by accident. It’s part of a larger strategy to centralize populations into manageable zones, where cars are unnecessary, rural living is unaffordable, and every facet of life is tracked, regulated, and optimized.

That’s the real agenda. And it’s already happening , and Mike Lee’s bill would have been an effort to ensure that you — not BlackRock, not China — get first dibs.

I live in a town of 451 people. Even here, in the middle of nowhere, housing is unaffordable. The American dream of owning a patch of land is slipping away, not because of one proposal from a constitutional conservative, but because global powers and their political allies are already devouring it.

Divide and conquer

This controversy isn’t really about Mike Lee. It’s about whether we, as a nation, are still capable of having honest debates about public policy — or whether the online mob now controls the narrative. It’s about whether conservatives will focus on facts or fall into the trap of friendly fire and circular firing squads.

More importantly, it’s about whether we’ll recognize the real land-grab happening in our country — and have the courage to fight back before it’s too late.


This article originally appeared on TheBlaze.com.

URGENT: FIVE steps to CONTROL AI before it's too late!

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By now, many of us are familiar with AI and its potential benefits and threats. However, unless you're a tech tycoon, it can feel like you have little influence over the future of artificial intelligence.

For years, Glenn has warned about the dangers of rapidly developing AI technologies that have taken the world by storm.

He acknowledges their significant benefits but emphasizes the need to establish proper boundaries and ethics now, while we still have control. But since most people aren’t Silicon Valley tech leaders making the decisions, how can they help keep AI in check?

Recently, Glenn interviewed Tristan Harris, a tech ethicist deeply concerned about the potential harm of unchecked AI, to discuss its societal implications. Harris highlighted a concerning new piece of legislation proposed by Texas Senator Ted Cruz. This legislation proposes a state-level moratorium on AI regulation, meaning only the federal government could regulate AI. Harris noted that there’s currently no Federal plan for regulating AI. Until the federal government establishes a plan, tech companies would have nearly free rein with their AI. And we all know how slowly the federal government moves.

This is where you come in. Tristan Harris shared with Glenn the top five actions you should urge your representatives to take regarding AI, including opposing the moratorium until a concrete plan is in place. Now is your chance to influence the future of AI. Contact your senator and congressman today and share these five crucial steps they must take to keep AI in check:

Ban engagement-optimized AI companions for kids

Create legislation that will prevent AI from being designed to maximize addiction, sexualization, flattery, and attachment disorders, and to protect young people’s mental health and ability to form real-life friendships.

Establish basic liability laws

Companies need to be held accountable when their products cause real-world harm.

Pass increased whistleblower protections

Protect concerned technologists working inside the AI labs from facing untenable pressures and threats that prevent them from warning the public when the AI rollout is unsafe or crosses dangerous red lines.

Prevent AI from having legal rights

Enact laws so AIs don’t have protected speech or have their own bank accounts, making sure our legal system works for human interests over AI interests.

Oppose the state moratorium on AI 

Call your congressman or Senator Cruz’s office, and demand they oppose the state moratorium on AI without a plan for how we will set guardrails for this technology.

Glenn: Only Trump dared to deliver on decades of empty promises

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The Islamic regime has been killing Americans since 1979. Now Trump’s response proves we’re no longer playing defense — we’re finally hitting back.

The United States has taken direct military action against Iran’s nuclear program. Whatever you think of the strike, it’s over. It’s happened. And now, we have to predict what happens next. I want to help you understand the gravity of this situation: what happened, what it means, and what might come next. To that end, we need to begin with a little history.

Since 1979, Iran has been at war with us — even if we refused to call it that.

We are either on the verge of a remarkable strategic victory or a devastating global escalation. Time will tell.

It began with the hostage crisis, when 66 Americans were seized and 52 were held for over a year by the radical Islamic regime. Four years later, 17 more Americans were murdered in the U.S. Embassy bombing in Beirut, followed by 241 Marines in the Beirut barracks bombing.

Then came the Khobar Towers bombing in 1996, which killed 19 more U.S. airmen. Iran had its fingerprints all over it.

In Iraq and Afghanistan, Iranian-backed proxies killed hundreds of American soldiers. From 2001 to 2020 in Afghanistan and 2003 to 2011 in Iraq, Iran supplied IEDs and tactical support.

The Iranians have plotted assassinations and kidnappings on U.S. soil — in 2011, 2021, and again in 2024 — and yet we’ve never really responded.

The precedent for U.S. retaliation has always been present, but no president has chosen to pull the trigger until this past weekend. President Donald Trump struck decisively. And what our military pulled off this weekend was nothing short of extraordinary.

Operation Midnight Hammer

The strike was reportedly called Operation Midnight Hammer. It involved as many as 175 U.S. aircraft, including 12 B-2 stealth bombers — out of just 19 in our entire arsenal. Those bombers are among the most complex machines in the world, and they were kept mission-ready by some of the finest mechanics on the planet.

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To throw off Iranian radar and intelligence, some bombers flew west toward Guam — classic misdirection. The rest flew east, toward the real targets.

As the B-2s approached Iranian airspace, U.S. submarines launched dozens of Tomahawk missiles at Iran’s fortified nuclear facilities. Minutes later, the bombers dropped 14 MOPs — massive ordnance penetrators — each designed to drill deep into the earth and destroy underground bunkers. These bombs are the size of an F-16 and cost millions of dollars apiece. They are so accurate, I’ve been told they can hit the top of a soda can from 15,000 feet.

They were built for this mission — and we’ve been rehearsing this run for 15 years.

If the satellite imagery is accurate — and if what my sources tell me is true — the targeted nuclear sites were utterly destroyed. We’ll likely rely on the Israelis to confirm that on the ground.

This was a master class in strategy, execution, and deterrence. And it proved that only the United States could carry out a strike like this. I am very proud of our military, what we are capable of doing, and what we can accomplish.

What comes next

We don’t yet know how Iran will respond, but many of the possibilities are troubling. The Iranians could target U.S. forces across the Middle East. On Monday, Tehran launched 20 missiles at U.S. bases in Qatar, Syria, and Kuwait, to no effect. God forbid, they could also unleash Hezbollah or other terrorist proxies to strike here at home — and they just might.

Iran has also threatened to shut down the Strait of Hormuz — the artery through which nearly a fifth of the world’s oil flows. On Sunday, Iran’s parliament voted to begin the process. If the Supreme Council and the ayatollah give the go-ahead, we could see oil prices spike to $150 or even $200 a barrel.

That would be catastrophic.

The 2008 financial collapse was pushed over the edge when oil hit $130. Western economies — including ours — simply cannot sustain oil above $120 for long. If this conflict escalates and the Strait is closed, the global economy could unravel.

The strike also raises questions about regime stability. Will it spark an uprising, or will the Islamic regime respond with a brutal crackdown on dissidents?

Early signs aren’t hopeful. Reports suggest hundreds of arrests over the weekend and at least one dissident executed on charges of spying for Israel. The regime’s infamous morality police, the Gasht-e Ershad, are back on the streets. Every phone, every vehicle — monitored. The U.S. embassy in Qatar issued a shelter-in-place warning for Americans.

Russia and China both condemned the strike. On Monday, a senior Iranian official flew to Moscow to meet with Vladimir Putin. That meeting should alarm anyone paying attention. Their alliance continues to deepen — and that’s a serious concern.

Now we pray

We are either on the verge of a remarkable strategic victory or a devastating global escalation. Time will tell. But either way, President Trump didn’t start this. He inherited it — and he took decisive action.

The difference is, he did what they all said they would do. He didn’t send pallets of cash in the dead of night. He didn’t sign another failed treaty.

He acted. Now, we pray. For peace, for wisdom, and for the strength to meet whatever comes next.


This article originally appeared on TheBlaze.com.

Globalize the Intifada? Why Mamdani’s plan spells DOOM for America

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If New Yorkers hand City Hall to Zohran Mamdani, they’re not voting for change. They’re opening the door to an alliance of socialism, Islamism, and chaos.

It only took 25 years for New York City to go from the resilient, flag-waving pride following the 9/11 attacks to a political fever dream. To quote Michael Malice, “I'm old enough to remember when New Yorkers endured 9/11 instead of voting for it.”

Malice is talking about Zohran Mamdani, a Democratic Socialist assemblyman from Queens now eyeing the mayor’s office. Mamdani, a 33-year-old state representative emerging from relative political obscurity, is now receiving substantial funding for his mayoral campaign from the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

CAIR has a long and concerning history, including being born out of the Muslim Brotherhood and named an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terror funding case. Why would the group have dropped $100,000 into a PAC backing Mamdani’s campaign?

Mamdani blends political Islam with Marxist economics — two ideologies that have left tens of millions dead in the 20th century alone.

Perhaps CAIR has a vested interest in Mamdani’s call to “globalize the intifada.” That’s not a call for peaceful protest. Intifada refers to historic uprisings of Muslims against what they call the “Israeli occupation of Palestine.” Suicide bombings and street violence are part of the playbook. So when Mamdani says he wants to “globalize” that, who exactly is the enemy in this global scenario? Because it sure sounds like he's saying America is the new Israel, and anyone who supports Western democracy is the new Zionist.

Mamdani tried to clean up his language by citing the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, which once used “intifada” in an Arabic-language article to describe the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. So now he’s comparing Palestinians to Jewish victims of the Nazis? If that doesn’t twist your stomach into knots, you’re not paying attention.

If you’re “globalizing” an intifada, and positioning Israel — and now America — as the Nazis, that’s not a cry for human rights. That’s a call for chaos and violence.

Rising Islamism

But hey, this is New York. Faculty members at Columbia University — where Mamdani’s own father once worked — signed a letter defending students who supported Hamas after October 7. They also contributed to Mamdani’s mayoral campaign. And his father? He blamed Ronald Reagan and the religious right for inspiring Islamic terrorism, as if the roots of 9/11 grew in Washington, not the caves of Tora Bora.

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This isn’t about Islam as a faith. We should distinguish between Islam and Islamism. Islam is a religion followed peacefully by millions. Islamism is something entirely different — an ideology that seeks to merge mosque and state, impose Sharia law, and destroy secular liberal democracies from within. Islamism isn’t about prayer and fasting. It’s about power.

Criticizing Islamism is not Islamophobia. It is not an attack on peaceful Muslims. In fact, Muslims are often its first victims.

Islamism is misogynistic, theocratic, violent, and supremacist. It’s hostile to free speech, religious pluralism, gay rights, secularism — even to moderate Muslims. Yet somehow, the progressive left — the same left that claims to fight for feminism, LGBTQ rights, and free expression — finds itself defending candidates like Mamdani. You can’t make this stuff up.

Blending the worst ideologies

And if that weren’t enough, Mamdani also identifies as a Democratic Socialist. He blends political Islam with Marxist economics — two ideologies that have left tens of millions dead in the 20th century alone. But don’t worry, New York. I’m sure this time socialism will totally work. Just like it always didn’t.

If you’re a business owner, a parent, a person who’s saved anything, or just someone who values sanity: Get out. I’m serious. If Mamdani becomes mayor, as seems likely, then New York City will become a case study in what happens when you marry ideological extremism with political power. And it won’t be pretty.

This is about more than one mayoral race. It’s about the future of Western liberalism. It’s about drawing a bright line between faith and fanaticism, between healthy pluralism and authoritarian dogma.

Call out radicalism

We must call out political Islam the same way we call out white nationalism or any other supremacist ideology. When someone chants “globalize the intifada,” that should send a chill down your spine — whether you’re Jewish, Christian, Muslim, atheist, or anything in between.

The left may try to shame you into silence with words like “Islamophobia,” but the record is worn out. The grooves are shallow. The American people see what’s happening. And we’re not buying it.

This article originally appeared on TheBlaze.com.