PAT GRAY: Donna Karan is also trying to make up for what she said in the midst of all of this Weinstein stuff.
JEFFY: Good luck.
PAT: Which was, eh, women are asking for it. Look how they're dressed.
So you can imagine people did not appreciate that, especially women didn't appreciate it. I didn't appreciate it. It was so stupid.
JEFFY: Yes. She knows better. Maybe she doesn't. But, I mean, she should know better.
PAT: Yesterday, she said she's apologetic from the bottom of her heart.
JEFFY: I bet she is.
PAT: She's embarrassed about the stupid remark that she made. Yeah, it's probably hurting her business, which I think she sold to some other company, right?
JEFFY: Yeah, she wasn't -- yeah, I don't think she's actually been running Donna Karan for a while. But it's still her name. And, man, that's worth a lot.
PAT: Yeah. Oh, yeah. She said initially, how do we display ourselves? How do we present ourselves as women? What are we asking? Are we asking for it? You know, by presenting all the sensibility and all the sexuality? It's not Harvey Weinstein. You look at everything all over the world today. Look at how women are dressing. What they're asking by just presenting themselves the way they do, what are they asking for? Trouble.
PAT: So now she's saying, I made a horrible mistake. I regret it from the bottom of my heart. This is never who I am as a woman.
That's not exactly true. Because it was how you were as a woman just last week.
And then it affected your business. And so now you don't want it to be who you are.
JEFFY: Right. So she's going to apologize from the bottom of her business, I mean, heart. But she -- apparently in 2015, she announced that she would be stepping down as head of her company so that she could focus on her lifestyle brand, Urban Zen.
PAT: Oh, okay. Well, good. Good luck with that. So her brand could be affected by this.
JEFFY: Urban Zen and the Donna Karan line. Have a nice day.
PAT: Because, I mean, when you listen to the way she said what she did was pretty amazing too. Here's a reminder.
DONNA: I think we have to look at ourselves. Obviously, the treatment of women all over the world is something that has always had to be identified. Certainly in the country of Haiti, where I work, in Africa, in the developing world, it's been a hard time for women. To see it here in our own country is very difficult. But I also think, how do we display ourselves? How do we present ourselves as women?
PAT: There you go. Now, does that sound like the way she said, she never acted before as a woman? Because she seemed pretty comfortable with those comments at the time.
JEFFY: Yes, she did.
PAT: Of course, she regrets it now.