Could Anyone Else in 2016's Crowded GOP Race Run for President Again?

It seems like a long time ago now, but do you remember 2016’s packed field of GOP candidates vying for the presidential nomination?

On today’s show, Pat and Jeffy named off as many as they could remember and debated whether any of the former candidates still have viable presidential aspirations after now-President Donald Trump beat them in front of the nation.

Could Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Bobby Jindal, John Kasich or the dozen or so other options in 2016 revamp their public image to run again? Pat and Jeffy asserted that moderates like Jeb Bush and John Kasich are done. They also thought Cruz and Rubio might have been too thoroughly branded with Trump’s monikers for voters to take them seriously.

This article provided courtesy of TheBlaze.

PAT: Looking back at the 2016 race of the people that he rightly claims he destroyed. It was a talented field. And he won. And Steve Bannon doesn't -- didn't understand that winning isn't as easy as he made it look.

And so --

JEFFY: And he called them the most talented field ever.

PAT: Most talented field ever assembled.

JEFFY: And I kind of believe that.

PAT: I do believe that. I do believe that. There were some great candidates, and not only did he beat them. He annihilated them.

He might have tainted them to the point where they can't even run again in 2020 for president.

JEFFY: Absolutely.

I honestly believe that. There's -- there's not one -- name one person -- you go through the list. Name one person who you think could run in 2020.

PAT: Jeb Bush. We just mentioned this. No, I don't think Jeb Bush can run again. Ben Carson, I think he's done. Chris Christie, he's certainly done. And it wasn't just this race.

JEFFY: No, but definitely -- it was the culmination of him -- yeah.

PAT: Ted Cruz, I think he's thoroughly tainted.

JEFFY: No way.

PAT: As far as presidentially speaking. As far as a presidential candidate. I think he'll be fine as a great senator.

JEFFY: He's a great senator from the state of Texas.

PAT: Great senator. I still support him a lot. I just don't think he has the chance to win the presidency anymore.

JEFFY: Specifically talking about the presidency. These guys should do exactly what they're doing now. But to run for president, my opinion, time and money wasted.

PAT: Can't do it. Yeah. I think so too.

Jim Gilmore. Now, I know you have a special place in your heart for him. He's done.

JEFFY: I forgot about him. Oh.

PAT: Lindsey Graham shouldn't have been in the race in the first place. He never had a chance, but he certainly doesn't now.

Mike Huckabee, completely destroyed. Completely.

JEFFY: Have a nice day.

PAT: Trump completely destroyed him.

JEFFY: Threw him a bone by hiring his daughter. I mean, that's what he does. I hired your daughter. Shut up.

(laughter)

PAT: Yes.

Bobby Jindal. I don't know that I feel the same way about Jindal. He could maybe run again.

JEFFY: Maybe. Maybe.

PAT: Maybe he dropped out at the right time. Didn't get involved in all the back and forth. Maybe Jindal is okay.

JEFFY: I don't know. Maybe.

PAT: But I think Kasich is done. Pataki never had a chance.

JEFFY: Oh, have a nice day.

PAT: I think Rand Paul is done as far as the presidency.

JEFFY: Yes. Yes. Who else? Still --

PAT: Marco Rubio.

He may have been too tainted. Trump did such a good job of destroying these guys.

JEFFY: Sure did.

PAT: That they all seem -- do they not seem kind of tainted? As far as the presidential run is concerned. You know, Rick Santorum I thought was tainted in the 2016 race. Now, I'm not even sure -- I can't even put my finger on what happened to Santorum because I was a big supporter in 2012. But I wouldn't want him to run again. I didn't want him to run last time.

JEFFY: He was with Lindsey at the kid's table from the debates, which was fine. Look, those guys are all smart men.

And they're in positions that they definitely worked hard to get. But after this campaign, this last campaign for president, Donald Trump --

PAT: It's tough.

JEFFY: There's a reason he won. He did scorched earth on those guys, man.

PAT: Yeah, I think he burned down the whole field. Maybe Scott Walker. Maybe Walker. He may have dropped out early enough to not have gotten the wrath of Trump.

He might have --

JEFFY: I don't know. Maybe.

You say Jindal. Walker.

PAT: I don't have the chance. I don't have the same feeling about Jindal and Walker, as I do the rest of the --

JEFFY: But I don't know that they're -- I don't know that they have enough panache to be president.

PAT: Maybe not. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see.

You know on the Democrat side, who has got a bright, bright future is Lincoln Chafee. Because he proposed the metric system. And America took to that like a duck to water. Man, did we respond.

JEFFY: I don't think it was reported enough.

PAT: It wasn't. It was downplayed by the media who doesn't want us to adopt that crappy system.

JEFFY: That's what I mean. I don't think it was reported enough. If we could get it out there, if we could get the word out there and explain it better.

PAT: He would have won by a landslide. But in reality, I think most of the G.O.P. field is done and tainted for 2020.

JEFFY: Yeah, oh, my gosh.

PAT: And if President Trump weren't to run again, the only person I could really think has a really good shot and has been untainted from any of this is Ben Sasse. I think Ben Sasse would be a great alternative.

JEFFY: I don't know if there's anyone else. I don't know that there's anyone else. Maybe I give you Walker and --

PAT: Maybe Walker and Jindal. But definitely Ben Sasse. Because he didn't run. Thank goodness for him. He didn't run. So he may have a future.

JEFFY: Yeah.

PAT: And I don't know. Maybe we're completely wrong. That's just my impression. That's my feeling right now, is that, yes, Donald Trump burned down the rest of the field.

JEFFY: America looks at the rest of the -- barring a couple people that we mentioned. I think at least through my eyes, looking at that campaign field up on stage, I'm looking at all those guys on stage right now, thinking, not one of them I would vote for.

PAT: Yeah. President Trump, then candidate Trump did such an effective job with these guys, that I can't look at Marco Rubio anymore without thinking Little Marco. Isn't that amazing?

JEFFY: I know. I know.

PAT: Such a simple, but degrading term.

JEFFY: And listen, it's difficult --

PAT: And it stuck.

JEFFY: It's difficult for me, for me alone to see Ted Cruz who is a senator, who I voted for here in this great state of Texas, I will vote for again --

PAT: Yes. He's got an election coming up. I'll definitely be voting for.

JEFFY: Here, lying Ted.

PAT: Yeah. Yeah.

JEFFY: I know it's not true. But it's there.

PAT: But it was effective stuff. Yeah.

JEFFY: You're never going to get rid of it.

PAT: It's a strange and interesting phenomenon with Donald Trump.

JEFFY: It sure is. It sure is.

PAT: There is something about him --

JEFFY: I mean, that's -- nobody else is going to be that. Nobody else. Other people have tried it. They lose. And they get looked at like they're complete dirtbags.

PAT: Yeah.

JEFFY: Because they're not Trump.

PAT: Yeah.

Would Glenn make a better bounty hunter or a Jedi? You'll have to find out in a new episode of the Beltway Banthas Podcast, where Glenn goes deep on Star Wars with host Stephen Kent. In this 45 minute discussion, Stephen and Glenn explore the political themes of the Star Wars franchise, Darth Vader's redemption from Return of the Jedi, Glenn's earliest memories of seeing the films and even debate elements of the latest Star Wars films.

If you enjoy the pop culture and nerdy discussions that Glenn, Pat and Stu get into on the radio show, you'll love this! After you're through, you can also check out Stu Burguiere's appearance on Beltway Banthas to talk Star Wars. You can find that here.


It's never too early to start your Christmas, Hanukah, or Kwanzaa shopping. Or even birthday gift shopping. Especially if that special someone in your life is a Democrat. Because at last count, pretty much all the Democrats are now running for president. And that means there has never been a wider selection of official candidate merchandise to choose from. Whether you're into environmentalism, feminism, classism, socialism, or just plain love, there is a smorgasbord of classy items that you and yours will treasure forever... or at least until the next presidential election.

We have browsed each of the candidates' online stores, so you don't have to (it only took us three months). We have curated only the finest items from each of the Democrats running for president of the United States of America. Without further ado, here is your handy progressive gift guide – or maybe your what-not-to-gift guide.

First, the bargain basement options. Hurry! Time is running out to grab your Beto bandana, or your Delaney pack of golf balls, because at this point Stu has as much of a chance as these guys of getting the nomination.

Tom Steyer, for example – is he still in the race?


https://shop.tomsteyer.com/collections/frontpage/products/tom-2020-pattern-tee


There's way too much Tom here. That shirt's got more Toms than a Caucasian dentists' convention.

For the slightly more moderate Democrat in your life, perhaps they'd like to join the "Yang Gang"…

https://shop.yang2020.com/collections/bumper-stickers/products/yanggang-decal


Andrew Yang is a lock for Math Club president…


https://shop.yang2020.com/collections/apparel/products/math-hat


But for actual president? Well, I wouldn't make plans for how you're going to spend your $1,000-per-month Yang allowance just yet.

If you happen to be shopping for your dog, may I suggest this lovely "Dogs for Delaney" dog collar…


https://store.johndelaney.com/products/dogs-for-delaney-collar


John Delaney's definitely going to secure the canine vote with this kind of outreach. As for any human votes, that's another question entirely.

How 'bout this tastefully understated "Natural Canvas" Michael Bennet tote to remind you he's also still here?...


https://store.michaelbennet.com/michael-bennet-for-america-natural-canvas-tote/


Then again, it's a tote. So, it'll end up on the floor of your closet and you won't have it with you until that one random moment when you're out somewhere and you really need a tote bag. Just like Democrats will really wish they had a moderate when we're in the middle of the socialist nightmare of their creation.

Captain Planet himself, Jay Inslee recently dropped out of the race, but don't let that stop you from picking up what may be the greatest single item sold by anyone in this race…


https://store.jayinslee.com/elvis-the-elves-the-mystery-of-the-melting-snow-by-jay-inslee/


A children's book called Elvis & the Elves: the Mystery of the Melting Snow. Written and illustrated by Governor Jay Inslee. Talk about a whodunnit – how could that snow possibly be melting? Spoiler alert: it's because of evil, white, patriarchal capitalism. And Donald Trump.

Then there's the candidate who thinks you're a moron that can't pronounce his last name: Steve Bullock...


https://shop.stevebullock.com/collections/apparel/products/emoji-t-shirt


Get it? Bull. Lock. Oh, so that's how you say the name that sounds exactly how it's spelled.

There's another candidate who also thinks you need help pronouncing his last name…


https://store.peteforamerica.com/collections/apparel/products/boot-edge-edge-t-shirt


And he is definitely right about that. So, thank you, Pete "Boot Edge Edge." That helps.

Just outside the bargain bin section, but just barely, are candidates like Julian Castro and his "El Presidente" t-shirt…


https://store.julianforthefuture.com/julian-castro-loteria-card-white-tee/


When your last name's Castro, do you really want to go with a weird drawing of yourself as if you're a classic Latin American dictator on a postage stamp?

If you prefer a little "dark psychic forces" battling in your candidates, you'll love Marianne Williamson's "Turn Love Into a Political Force" rally sign…


https://store.marianne2020.com/collections/signs/products/love-rally-sign


"Turn Love Into a Political Force" would be an even better title for a Marianne Williamson album of 80s cover songs. And if you think I'm joking, then you haven't heard Bernie Sanders' classic 1987 folk album, We Shall Overcome. That's not a joke. Well, it is a joke, but it's also a very real thing.

Now, just a quick pause to consider the peculiar baby-wear that way too many candidates are selling…

…including Elizabeth Warren's trans-pride flag onesie. Let me get this straight – we can't force any gender on a child, because that's just cruel. But we can force a political advertisement on a baby? How do we know that baby is actually a Biden or Warren fan? The child may not even be a Democrat or a Socialist at all. That baby might self-identify as a Libertarian, or Republican, or even worse – a moderate Democrat.

Now to the premium items from the premium candidates. Elizabeth Warren – the candidate with the most honesty in her advertising…


https://shop.elizabethwarren.com/collections/apparel/products/impolite-arrogant-women-make-history-unisex-t-shirt

-AND-

https://shop.elizabethwarren.com/collections/drinkware/products/strong-american-unions-mug


Warren's merchandise reflects the woman herself – cold and humorless (watch her "This isn't funny" clip from the last debate here at the 4:27 mark). I'm sure she's really fun once you get to know her. Then again, maybe not.

Speaking of serious women, Kamala Harris wants to be president very badly for you, the people, as you can tell from her "For the People" poster…


https://store.kamalaharris.org/poster-for-the-people/


At $29.99 though, she's sure not charging "people's" prices. Of course, she might be having to pay royalties to a certain someone for riffing on their poster. Just saying.

For the race's number one socialist, there's a whole lot of capitalism going on in Bernie Sanders' campaign. He sells so many delightful items that it's hard to choose. But we did anyway. The most random item is this hundred-dollar, black, "Art of a Political Revolution – Artists for Bernie Sanders Coaches Jacket"…


https://store.berniesanders.com/collections/apparel/products/artists-for-bernie-coaches-jacket


Coaches across the land will be clamoring for this one. You know, since coaches are such a strong Bernie-socialist demographic.

If that's a little over your budget you might consider a "Feel the Bern" fanny pack, to help store all those government freebies you'll get from Bernie…


https://store.berniesanders.com/collections/apparel/products/feel-the-bern-fanny-pack


This is the only context in which you'll ever want to hear "feel the burn" and "fanny" in the same sentence.

And finally, from front-runner Joe Biden, we have this fine "Women's Fitted Biden Polo." Which is just about the best polo description ever…


https://store.joebiden.com/collections/apparel/products/biden-polo-womens-fit


It promises the kind of snug approach that Biden loves to provide women. Even when they don't ask.

This was one of the first homesteads in the area in the 1880's and was just begging to be brought back to its original glory — with a touch of modern. When we first purchased the property, it was full of old stuff without any running water, central heat or AC, so needless to say, we had a huge project ahead of us. It took some vision and a whole lot of trust, but the mess we started with seven years ago is now a place we hope the original owners would be proud of.

To restore something like this is really does take a village. It doesn't take much money to make it cozy inside, if like me you are willing to take time and gather things here and there from thrift shops and little antique shops in the middle of nowhere.

But finding the right craftsman is a different story.

Matt Jensen and his assistant Rob did this entire job from sketches I made. Because he built this in his off hours it took just over a year, but so worth the wait. It wasn't easy as it was 18"out of square. He had to build around that as the entire thing we felt would collapse. Matt just reinforced the structure and we love its imperfections.

Here are a few pictures of the process and the transformation from where we started to where we are now:

​How it was

It doesn't look like much yet, but just you wait and see!

By request a photo tour of the restored cabin. I start doing the interior design in earnest tomorrow after the show, but all of the construction guys are now done. So I mopped the floors, washed the sheets, some friends helped by washing the windows. And now the unofficial / official tour.

The Property

The views are absolutely stunning and completely peaceful.