Off The Record with Kathie Lee Gifford

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Television host, writer, singer, actress, and philanthropist Kathie Lee Gifford spoke to GlennBeck.com assistant editor Meg Storm about how her faith has influenced her storied career, her extensive charity work, and why people might be surprised to learn she is “dead serious” 95% of the time.

Below is a transcript of the interview:

Hi, Kathie Lee! Thank you so much for taking the time to talk to me today.

Hello! How are things with TheBlaze team? Glenn is in my prayers.

I know he appreciates that. We are doing an interview series for GlennBeck.com that highlights interesting people –

I will try to be interesting for you then!

(Laughs) So I just have a few questions about your career and some of the projects you are working on.

Alright, honey. Shoot!

Did you always know you wanted to be in the entertainment industry?

Yes, I never had any doubt from my earliest memory. I did have legitimate doubts about whether I’d be able to do it. I came from a family in Maryland. My father had been a jazz saxophonist. My mom loved singing. But that was the extent of our show business experience. My dad had three jobs at once, so we certainly didn’t have the means to underwrite a career for me.

And I also thought, when I was a little older, that my personal faith would be a hindrance to having success in the industry because I knew there would be many things I would have to say no to based on my faith. And that has turned out to be definitely true, but also a great blessing. I was never tempted to do some of the things other actresses or singers might do just to make a living. I treated God the same way some people treat a manager or an agent. I always knew God was in control of my life and sovereign over all my decisions. So what looked like it might be a disadvantage was a tremendous advantage.

People used to say to me when I was growing up, ‘How can you call yourself a Christian and be in show business?’ And I used to say, ‘How can I be in show business and not be one?’ The rejection is unbelievable. The temptations are huge. Once you get success, you think you deserve it or you earned it. It’s constant. And the one thing God does is keep you grounded and keep your perspective right.

You have covered everything in the industry from writing to theater to television to singing. Was there one thing when you were younger that stood out as what you thought you would be doing?

I love to think that I have done everything in this business except for porn.

(Laughs)

And that’s only because I have had no offers!

You know, I don’t try to re-invent myself. I am in my fifth decade of a career. I just turned 60, and I started singing when I was about 12. I am grateful I had an interest in lots of different things.

My daddy used to say when I was a little girl, ‘Find something you love to do and then figure out a way to get paid for it.’ I have probably given out that advice a thousand times to other people because he was right in that if you find what you are passionate about in life and follow it, you are going to be a happier person in general. You may not have success the way the world defines success. But you will have success at a deeper level. You will love what you do. It was Confucius who said, ‘Happy is the man who loves what he does so much he never has to work’ – because it doesn’t seem like work.

In my case, an audience can tell when a performer is having a good time, enjoying themselves, and being authentic. I have been able to do that for 15 years with Regis [Philbin]. I have done that in my live performance career. Even when I was an actress, I always felt a freedom because I was grounded in the Word of God. I know that sounds weird, but if you let the Lord define you, you are less inclined to believe any critic, any cruel person, any director. You believe what God says, and you just keep putting one foot in front of the other.

You have always been so candid about you background, your personal life, and your faith. Did you ever worry if being so open would close any doors for you?

I was always concerned about the opposite – that I would somehow betray the Lord by not being open about my faith. I have always wanted to be bold about my faith because I am not ashamed of the Lord. It’s not that I am proud. I am just grateful for what he’s done for me, for his presence in my life everyday. So it’s a boldness born of great gratitude for what he has done for me and what he will do for me before this day is through. First of all, never leaving me or forsaking me. How many times in life do people feel rejected or abandoned? With the Lord holding you with his victorious right hand, that’s not an issue. You know where your strength comes from.

Nehemiah 8:10 says, ‘The joy of the Lord is my strength.’

Another in Psalm says, ‘I love you Lord. You are my strength.’

Philippians 4:13: ‘I can do all things through Christ my strength.’

I just call on all those Scriptures, and they are there for me in an instance. In the mentioning of them it’s there. It’s reality.

You spent, as you mentioned, 15 years on Live with Regis and Kathie Lee. And you have been a co-host on the fourth hour of TODAY for several years. Do you feel at home on morning television?

Yeah, I do. It just came naturally to me. It wasn’t something I was looking for. It’s one of those things in life. I thought I had my career all mapped out for me. I was living in California for 15 years as an actress and a singer when I got the call to come to New York and be a correspondent for Good Morning America, which is where I met Frank [Gifford]. But it was while I was at Good Morning America the position became available to be Regis’ co-host. And I was a big fan of Regis’ from L.A. before, and I knew I would have fun with him. I had never been real comfortable with reading a teleprompter. Unless I was an actress reading someone’s words as a character, I prefer to use my own words. So it came naturally to me.

Regis is such a ping pong player in the best sense of the word. Whatever I threw at him, he threw right back. That’s what makes for great TV – someone who really comes to play.

Absolutely.

And Regis, more than almost anyone I can think of, came to play everyday. Jimmy Fallon reminds me of him now. Jimmy Kimmel does. Different young performers – I am trying to think if anyone else comes to mind – but they are always up for anything. They never plan what they are going to say next; they let it happen. Billy Crystal is like that. Howie Mandel. They let life happen as opposed to trying to control it. If you want to be really good at what you do on television: Trust your instincts, let it happen, and go with the flow.

Of all the time you’ve spent on TV – the moments you’ve had, the interviews you’ve have done – is there a particular moment or interview that really stands out?

I will never forget the very first interview I ever did at Good Morning America was with Paul Newman. And he ended up becoming a friend through the years, and I ended up working with him on his Newman’s Own line for the Hole in the Wall Gang charity that he had. I remember being deeply, deeply touched by this guy who could be home counting his awards, chasing women, eating foie gras out in the Caribbean or Riviera on a yacht. But he never – to the day he died – stopped thinking about the people he could help.

The other person was Audrey Hepburn. I met her right before she died. No one knew at the time, but she had colon cancer. She had just flown in from Ethiopia the night before. She was on my show with Regis. Frank happened to be hosting with me that day because Regis was off. And I remember thinking that she was the most beautiful person I had seen in my life. She was older then and ravaged by a disease that nobody had mentioned yet. She was certainly not in what the world would call her ‘prime.’ But I thought she was the most beautiful human being I had ever seen.

What those two had in common – again, very similar – was they understood the power of celebrity to be used to make the world a better place. And I always wanted to be that person. If God would bless me with fame and with fortune, I would be that person for whom it was never for my own fame or my own fortune. But it was for God, to be used for his kingdom.

That’s actually a great segue. Can you talk a little bit about all of the charity work you do?

I have always been an advocate for children. When I was about 8- or 9-years-old, I had what they call a carnival in my backyard to benefit muscular dystrophy. I remember I raised $58.52, and I ended up winning a contest of who could raise the most that week for muscular dystrophy. I ended up going on channel 5 in Washington D.C. and sitting on a clown’s lap. It was a clown named Captain Tug, but it was Willard Scott playing Captain Tug. So I was about 9-years-old the first time I went on television, and Willard and I have had a lifelong friendship as a result of that.

That just started my work with all kinds of children’s charities. I work with Childhelp battling child abuse. I work with an amazing man named Gary Haugen at the International Justice Mission, who does amazing work all over the world – everything from trying to rescue 5-year-old Cambodian girls from brothels to helping widows in Ethiopia and Kenya who had their land taken from them. I also love Salvation Army. And we have two homes here in New York that we have had since the early 90s – Cody House and Cassidy’s Place [named for her children].

In the early 90s, when pediatric AIDS was such a problem, babies were being born with HIV and full blown AIDS. When I held my first HIV baby in my arms, I held my newborn son – who was three months old at the time – in my other arm. And I just thought about the injustice of it. I never got over the injustice of that. That baby died within a year.

This amazing woman named Gretchen Buchenholz here in New York City started something called the Association to Benefit Children. They ended up renaming the little house we dedicated that day Cody’s House. Several years later, when mothers were getting cocktails – and not the kind that Hoda enjoys – of the three drugs, they discovered women went from a 40% chance of having an HIV positive baby to less than 8%.

Wow.

The Association to Benefit Children sued the state of New York to unblind HIV testing of pregnant mothers. It’s a complicated subject. But, at the time, the CDC was tracking the disease, but they weren’t telling the mother or the mother’s doctor if she was HIV positive. As a result, all of these babies were being born to suffer and die. So we sued the state of New York to unblind HIV testing.

I happened to sit next to [former New York] Governor [George] Pataki at a dinner in the Hamptons one summer night – here’s the man we are all suing. For two hours I had him as a captive audience. I was able to share with him the work that we were doing at ABC and what we knew about what could happen to a woman in utero. And he said three things to me, Meghan, that I had never heard a politician say:

1. He said, ‘I didn’t know this.’

2. He said, ‘We are on the wrong side of this issue.’

3. He said, ‘I am going to do something about this.’

I came away from that meeting encouraged, but I have been around enough politicians to know that the chance of anybody following through on what they say to you is pretty nil – even then. This is many years ago. Within one month, he mandated the unblinding of HIV testing in the state of New York. And one year from then was the first time the AIDS death rate went down in New York, and that is because the AIDS birth rate went down. Soon after that, every state mandated the unblinding of HIV testing. So this courageous man changed the world. He really did. He gets no credit for it, and it makes me crazy. But once in while, politicians do the right thing. He and I bonded over that. I have been very grateful to him – and the whole world should be very grateful to him – for that.

So I get involved in things like that when it comes to children, you know?

That’s a remarkable story.

Yeah, that’s one the press never likes to tell.

Honestly, I have lived in New York my whole life and never heard the details of that.

Nope. We were standing in the garden of Cody House the day he mandated the unblinding, and I heard people out on the street yelling, ‘Governor Pataki, we’ve got rights too.’ And somebody had bussed up homeless people for a couple of bucks to yell that to get coverage on the evening news. And I just thought: Who is against innocent babies being helped? They have never had unprotected sex. They have never had an intravenous drug put in their arm. They have only been born. That’s it.

I hate the suffering of anyone who has HIV or AIDS. I hate the suffering of any human being. But these little ones – there was something we could do about it. It was something we could do instantly. It was wrong not to. Governor Pataki realized that and did the right thing.

Switching topics a little bit, you launched your podcast last year. I know Glenn did one with you.

He did it with me in Dallas. We had a ball!

What has that process been like? Is it different than what you’ve done on TV?

You know, what I like so much about it is that it’s long form. Daily television is just sound bites – a little longer than a sound bite. You get three and half or four minutes at the most with somebody. And sometimes I am grateful for that. If it happens to be with reality stars, I thank the Lord it is only four minutes.

(Laughs)

But when it is with people who are fascinating – whether I agree with them or not – I love a good debate. I love going into a lot more depth with somebody. I think it is a lot more respectful. I am enjoying it in that respect very much.

Editor’s Note: Learn more about Kathie Lee’s podcast, Kathie Lee & Company, HERE.

Over the last several years, you have interviewed Glenn a few times. How did you two first meet?

I think we first met when he had the Snow Angel book coming out, and NBC wanted to do an interview with him at his studios in New York. And he said, ‘I’d be happy to, but I want Kathie Lee to do the interview.’ I was honored. Anytime someone requests me I am honored. I think that was the first time we met.

Oh, he was also here another time before that, and I made a point to go tell him that I appreciated all he did to educate on our Constitution, on our Founding Fathers. I am a huge admirer of our Founding Fathers and our Constitution. I am a Constitutionalist. I think our Founding Fathers were anointed of God when they wrote our earlier laws, and our Constitution, and our Bill of Rights. It is sacred to me. And the only place I had ever heard anyone else talking about that was Glenn. And I always admired the stance he took, and I loved every time David Barton was on with Wall Builders. Oh, I am like a sieve – I just couldn’t get enough.

No, he was talking about things you don’t hear a lot about. It’s not taught in history textbooks –

It’s not in any of out history books! Or lies are spread – sort of PC lies.

Yeah, so it just took courage for him to do what he did and what he continues to do. I don’t always agree with Glenn on everything. I don’t agree with anyone on everything – except for Jesus. But I admire anybody who takes an impassioned stance on what they believe – even if it is against what I believe. It takes courage, and I respect it when people do.

Is there anything people would be surprised to learn about you?

I think people would be surprised that I am basically 5% silly and 95% dead serious. I am a very serious person. I take my writing very seriously. I take my parenting seriously, my faith very seriously.

My favorite thing in the whole world to do is study Scripture. I want to know what the original Greek meant, the original Hebrew, so I go to Israel. I study with a Christian man – though he got he orthodox rabbinical degree from Yeshiva University in New York – because I want to know what the Bible really said… not how it has been mistranslated and miscommunicated over the centuries. What the original Hebrew and original Greek mean – that is the beginning of wisdom right there, baby.

Do you have any upcoming projects you would like to talk about?

Well, I just launched a wine product that I am really excited about. Finally! My daddy said, ‘Do something you love…’

(Laughs)

It’s called Gifft Wines. It’s a chardonnay and a red blend that we are just launching this week and very excited about.

There are some other projects that I can’t announce right now, but they are in the musical theater arena. It will be pretty evident pretty soon, I hope. But I can’t announce it yet.

And I am working on a book that will benefit Salvation Army. All of the anchors at NBC have been asked to do a project this year called Shine a Light, so I am doing a books called Good Gifts that is basically one year in the heart of a home. It is the 20th anniversary living in our home – the house I raised my children in. We moved in on my daughter’s first birthday, and she will turn 21 on August 2. So we have been chronicling with recipes, and Scriptures, and memories, and song lyrics this year. Hopefully that will be out in time for the holidays and all profits will go to Salvation Army.

That’s so special!

So I have got a full plate!

You absolutely do. I have a couple of very quick questions. You can literally give one-word answers. It’s a little ‘lightening round’ we like to do to get some insight into your favorite things.

Ok.

What’s your favorite book?

It’s the Bible.

What’s your favorite movie?

I loved Braveheart. Talk about taking a position that costs you dearly. I love stories like that. I loved Funny Girl. It had a huge impact on my career. I loved Les Misérables. Hugh Jackman is my favorite performer on the planet. I love everything he does. Those three movies I’d say are my favorite.

Favorite TV show?

Well, I guess it’s got to be the TODAY show with Hoda and Kathie Lee. Other than that, I really don’t watch television. I loved I Love Lucy when I was growing up. I loved The Carol Burnett Show. I loved The Mary Tyler Moore Show. I love that kind of brilliantly written, brilliantly acted sitcom. Those just kill me.

What’s your favorite place to visit?

Besides Israel, it’s definitely Italy. A year without a trip to Italy – there is something missing for me. But I go to Israel for my soul. I go to Italy for my wellbeing. If I had to choose one place, it would be Israel.

Do you have a favorite music artist?

Ah! I have too many that I adore. Barbra Streisand had a huge impact on me as a young singer. I adore Carole King and James Taylor. Who do I like today? I like Sara Bareilles. I think she is fantastic – a brilliant, brilliant songwriter/singer and a good person. I still think Celine [Dion] sings better than anyone on the planet.

To me, Tapestry and Sweet Baby James will always be mine. And Barbra’s first CD – My Name is Barbra I think it was called. And her Broadway album too because my favorite song – outside the ones I have written – is the [Stephen] Sondheim and Leonard Bernstein song from West Side Story called "Somewhere" that David Foster produced for Streisand on her Broadway album. If you want musical perfection that’s it, baby, right there.

And do you have a favorite Broadway show?

Yep, the one I wrote with my favorite composers David Friedman and David Pomeranz. It didn’t last very long on Broadway, but it’s available through my website. It’s called Scandalous. It took my 13 years to write it and bring it to Broadway. And although it didn’t last very long, I wouldn’t have missed that journey for anything in the world. I still hear from people all the time that it changed their life. So whatever God had planned for it – even though it was brief – was profound in people’s lives. And I am so grateful for that.

That is all that matters. Kathie Lee, it has been such an honor to talk to you. Thank you again.

Thank you, Meghan! Give my love to Glenn. And you have an awesome day.

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Don’t miss Kathie Lee on the fourth hour of TODAY, weekdays on NBC. You can learn more about her podcast and other projects by visiting her website KathieLeeGifford.com.

10 lessons on prepping from around the world

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Prepping is a human condition practiced across the globe for thousands of years. Customs are influenced by geography, culture, politics, and threat. Here are ten applicable observations on preparedness from around the world.

1. Argentina: Get hard.

Fernando “Ferfal” Aguirre’s The Modern Survival Manual: Surviving the Economic Collapse is required reading for preppers, and it’s chock-full of real-life lessons from his experiences during Argentina's 2001 economic crisis. But the very first thing he starts with is preparing your body and your mind so you’re not a soft target. Stop being soft. Do difficult things to develop your body and your mind. Go camping. Hit the gym. Get in shape! It’ll do wonders for your health, survivability, and confidence.

Take home point: here’sa simple weightlifting plan that most able-bodied adults can perform. Learn to stand up straight and act confident. Get your dental and health problems fixed while you can—don’t put it off for after stuff hits the fan.

2. Netherlands: Involve the kids!

The motto of the Boy Scouts of America is “Be Prepared” and the organization has taught boys wilderness and practical skills for over 100 years. The Dutch have their own version of inculcating confidence in their children via a cultural tradition known as Dutch Dropping. Kids, starting around the age of 11-12, are dropped off in the forest alone or in small groups at night with minimal gear and instructed to find their way home or to the campsite with ZERO adult assistance. Some nights are tough and miserable, but overall, the practice instills independence, decision-making skills, and is widely practiced.

Take home point: instill grit and self-confidence in your children early.

3. Israel: Always be prepared.

Entire books could be dedicated to the 10/7 attack, but the key takeaway is this: no one saw it coming. The folks attending the Supernova music festival expected a fun party, and what they got instead was hell. Israel is a bit of a special case, but the reality is you never know when a mass shooter or other disaster will strike. Never get too intoxicated, never let your guard down too much, because you never know when your life will change forever.

Take home point: you don’t have to live on hyper-alert (that is grossly unhealthy) but keep your wits about you and have a plan if things go south.

4.Taiwan: Grassroots communities are the best.

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Post-COVID and especially after the start of the Russia-Ukraine War, prepping has exploded in Taiwan. Fearing an imminent blockade and invasion, the Taiwanese have recognized their precarious position. Prepper groups have sprung up across the island and vary in their focus from all-hazards to gear geeks to weaponized resistance forces training with airsoft guns. Skills taught are varied; examples include building an emergency kit, learning first aid, and basic survival proficiencies.

However, some groups go much further and provide instruction on military simulations. Participants run the political gamut and are highly varied in their professions, reflecting a massive cross-section of the island. One common theme that appears across these groups is the adage that disaster can happen at any moment and can consist of assorted hazards. The April 2024 severe earthquake is proof positive of this understanding.

Take home point: community resilience is vital!

5. Bosnia: Get your ham radio license.

During the Bosnian War of the early 1990s, ham radio operators like Himzo Devedzija helped separated families stay in touch via radio. These days, the ubiquity of the internet and smartphones has made ham radio seem obsolete, but radio has a key advantage over more modern and user-friendly tech: it requires practically no infrastructure. Hook a radio up to a battery connected to a solar panel, throw a wire over a tree, and you’re in business. Master digital modes like Winlink and you can even send email over the air. The downside is the equipment is expensive, and you need to take tests with the FCC to obtain the necessary licenses. Your best bet is to contact yournearest ham radio club, who can help prepare you for the tests and recommend the best equipment for your area. But you can do a lot of interesting things even without a license, like listen to worldwide HF transmissions and learn how to track down radio transmitters through foxhunting.

Take home point: pick up a hobby, even if it’s not ham and make it FUN!

6. Russia: Plant a garden.

While the leadership of Russia is commonly maligned, the Russian people are damn tough. They’ve survived Genghis Khan, famines, a communist revolution, and total government collapse. One secret to Russian resiliency? Dacha gardens, which the Russian people have maintained for over 1,000 years. These small backyard gardens account for 3% of Russia’s land but provide over 50% of the country’s food, including 92% of potatoes, 77% of vegetables, 87% of fruit, 59% of meat, and 49% of milk. You don’t have to grow everything overnight, but simply starting with a single raised bed of lettuce and maybe a handful of chickens will give you invaluable real-world experience you can scale when the chips are down.

Take home point: build your resilience in bite-sized (pun intended) chunks.

7. Cyprus: Diversification saves.

During the 2013 financial crisis in Cyprus, Germany agreed to bail out the island, but with some characteristic German austerity: a tax of 6.75 percent from insured deposits up to €100,000 and a 9.9 percent from uninsured amounts over €100,000. People panicked, and Cyprus had to shut down banks for two weeks to avoid a run. Ultimately, depositors lost nearlyhalf of their savings. The crisis in Cyprussparked Bitcoin’s meteoric rise from obscure nerd money to a financial titan as the savvy rich realized that they couldn’t trust the banks. Of course, there are alternative places to store wealth other than a bank, but as for your liquid capital, it pays to diversify. Keep some in cash, Bitcoin, and precious metals.

Take home point: your mother was right, don’t put all your eggs in one basket.

8.Japan: Government CAN be helpful.

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Japan overall, and Tokyo specifically, take disaster preparedness quite seriously. The 2024 New Years Day earthquake hammered that point home, yet again. At the national level, the Japanese Ground Self-Defense Force is habitually prepared to respond to calamity; everything from earthquakes to typhoons to tsunamis.

As a country, September 1st is nationally designated as Disaster Prevention Day, commemorating the 1923 Great Kanto Earthquake which claimed 140,000 lives. School children, businesses, theme parks, and members of the national government participate annually. At the municipal level, Tokyo publishes a very thorough and thoughtful pamphlet on preparedness for its residents (English link here:https://www.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/english/guide/bosai/index.html). Tokyo also boasts the massive Rinkai Disaster Prevention Park, near downtown, that is used both as a tourist attraction and an actual disaster response site.

Take home point: remembrance, codified in national action and tribute, contributes to a culture of preparedness.

9. Finland, Switzerland, Israel: Bunkers aren't mainstream, but the concept is widespread.

You would really have to be a tinfoil hat wearing loon to invest in a bunker, right? Wrong. Switzerland mandates either a personal bunker or a tax for a space in a public bunker. In 2023, Finland ascertained it had over 50,000 bunkers, enough to shelter nearly 90% of its population. For these countries, the shelters are due to nuclear fears. Israeli law stipulates residential homes should possess a Merkhav Mugan (translation: protected space) to protect from conventional rocket and mortar attacks. Some countries and some areas are at higher risk for conventional or nuclear attack. It is folly to ignore this.

Take home point: the need for a nuclear bunker at home should not be a top prepping priority, but many areas of the US could greatly benefit from a reinforced room (e.g. panic room, tornado, or hurricane shelter) to mitigate threats.

10. United Kingdom, Canada, Australia: International preparedness is growing.

Although the tide is turning (slowly), one negative export from America on prepping, especially to the Western World, is that prepping is fringe and even anti-social, if not downright dangerous. Fortunately, things are changing for the better. The United Kingdom is, at least anecdotally, seeing an uptick in interest. The reality series Alone Australia, a spin-off of the American show where survivalists test their wits in nature, is a hit. A December 2023 survey of Canadians found 7% considered themselves preppers with British Columbia reporting the highest levels. Given wildfires, home prices, and general angst regarding a host of potential crises, it’s not hard to see why many are changing their views regarding preparedness.

Take home point: prepping has been a human staple for millennia; the world is rediscovering this and taking action.

About the authors:

Josh Centers has no masters degrees, but he does own four chickens along with some meat rabbits on his Tennessee compound. He runs unprepared.life, the best-selling Substack newsletter on preparedness, where he discusses subjects like food storage, nuclear war preparations, homeschooling, and the importance of cleaning your dryer vents. His views absolutely do not reflect the views of the Department of Defense or the Army.

Dr. Chris Ellis has four masters degrees and earned his PhD at Cornell University. He is a Colonel in the Army who specializes in a variety of disaster and homeland defense initiatives. His views are from his studies and experience and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Department of Defense, the Army, or his current command. Sadly, Chris does not own any chickens.

5 Christian denominations that have EMBRACED LGBTQ+

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The United Methodist Church (UMC) just lost one million members overnight, and they're on their way to losing another 1.5 million in the coming weeks.

Early this May, the UMC, which has been succumbing to the pressures of the progressive mob for years, made one of its biggest concessions to date. At the UMC's general conference meeting in Charlotte, they voted to allow LGBTQ-practicing clergy and reversed their ban on same-sex marriage. For the leaders of the United Methodist Church of Ivory Coast (EMCUI), this was the straw that broke the camel's back, and they voted to withdraw from the United Methodist Church. This was a massive blow to the Church, which has been losing U.S. congregations over the last few years.

The EMCUI's decision to stand up against pressures from the progressive wing of the Church and defend its core values is being reflected in other churches within the UMC. The 1.5 million-member-strong Korean Methodist Church may soon be on its way out of the UMC before long. The controversy stemming from the general conference meeting provoked the following response from the conservative faction within the Korean Methodist Church: "Homosexuality cannot be accepted until the Lord returns. This is not an emotional issue but a matter of unchangeable truth. Homosexuality is clearly a sin."

But the UMC is not alone. There has been a continuing trend of denominations across America changing their stance on LGBTQ matters and condoning gay clergy and gay marriages.

Here are FIVE examples of Christian denominations that have embraced the pride movement:

United Methodist Church (UMC)

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Rev. Burton Edwards

Presbyterian Church (U.S.A)

The [Presbyterian Church U.S.A] apologizes for the church’s previous unwelcoming stance on LGBTQ parishioners, celebrates LGBTQ church pioneers, and states the church will welcome, lift up, and fight for the human rights of all people created in the eyes of God.

Overture 11-13: "On Celebrating the Gifts of People of Diverse Sexual Orientations and Gender Identities in the Life of the Church"

The Episcopal Church

Ordination and the offices of bishop, priest, and deacon are open to all without discrimination. Laypeople and clergy cooperate as leaders at all levels of our church. Leadership is a gift from God and can be expressed by all people in our church, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, or gender identity or expression.

The Episcopal Church's statement on "LGBTQ+ in the Church"

United Church of Christ (UCC)

LGBTQIA+ siblings know intimately the nature of being deemed an outcast. The clarion call for LGBTQIA+ advocacy is reverberating from state capitol rotundas, family dinner tables, city streets, and church pews.

The UCC's Love is Louder Campaign

Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA)

We give thanks for the gifts, wisdom, leadership and faith of our LGBTQIA+ neighbors and siblings in Christ. We ask the Spirit to embolden us in advocating for social, institutional and legislative change that reflects justice, total inclusion and God’s boundless love for humanity in all its diversity.

The ELCA's prayer ventures; June 4, 2024

Trump's conviction: Press on for the sake of the republic

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Editor's note: This article was originally published on TheBlaze.com.

In today's world, everyone seems to get a trophy, which makes the trophy absolutely worthless. Unless it’s fought for, unless it’s earned and struggled for, the trophy doesn’t belong to you. The same goes for freedom. I’ve never earned the freedom we enjoy in America. I fear I spent too much of my life squandering it. And for what? Ease? Money? Just to go along to get along? A trophy that everybody gets but was never earned?

We must not accept defeat. If we do, we are not worthy of the freedom that is worth fighting for.

I do not accept, nor do I want that trophy. I want one that means something, and that means standing up for something.

Defeat is not an outcome. Defeat is a choice.

We were given an opportunity on Thursday to stand for something: our republic. The weaponization of our government to snuff out Donald Trump’s campaign represents a greater attack against the foundational freedoms that forged our republic: the right to a fair and impartial trial, the right to free and fair elections, the right to defend yourselves against your accusers. Will you stand for it?

Now is the time to decide, and our decision may very well determine whether our republic is heading toward victory or defeat.

I will never say we are finished. I will never utter the words, “We have lost!” Because defeat is not an outcome. Defeat is a choice. It is the choice of the person who is pushed down and refuses to get back up. It is the choice of the person who backs down when pitted against seemingly insurmountable obstacles. The posture of defeat is the one who backs down when things get hard. Will you take that posture? Or will you stand for freedom and rise to the occasion that our republic demands?

It always sucks before you get to the summit. The question is: As you're driving your wagon train over the Rocky Mountains, do you press on? Do you actually have an unwavering belief in our republic? Do you really even know the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, or the Constitution? Do you know why we fight? Because if you don't know, you will lose.

Will enough of us call upon that unyielding spirit that has always been inside us? Will you stand for those values that we’ve been told our whole lives are self-evident? Apparently, they are not self-evident any more, according to our ruling elites.

Our country forged the greatest mission statement the world has ever witnessed, that all people are "endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness," where justice and freedom can be had by all.

That is the summit of the mountain we now face, and it is a summit worth pressing forward to reach. We are still on the side of the mountain. We have a long way to go, and last Thursday, they tried to knock us back down. We must ask ourselves today: Do we just go back down? Is this as far as we go? Or do we just say, "Press on, America."

We must press on. We must not accept defeat. If we do, we are not worthy of the freedom that is worth fighting for.

FOUR takeaways from Fauci's hearing

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Did Dr. Anthony Fauci answer for the mismanagement of the Covid pandemic?

On Monday, Fauci sat before the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability to answer lingering questions about how the pandemic was handled. Many of us, Glenn included, have serious concerns, such as:

  • Why did he lie about gain-of-function research?
  • Why did he try to cover up all the chatter among scientists that the virus DID come from a lab?
  • Did he know the U.S. government cut a deal with Moderna on vaccines before the pandemic?

While some of these questions were partially answered, Fauci's lack of credibility and Congress's lack of direct questioning left much to be desired. The American people deserve the truth, but it's being kept from us.

That’s why BlazeTV teamed up with Free the People to release The Coverup, a docuseries available NOW for BlazeTV subscribers. You can watch the series now and get $30 off your BlazeTV annual subscription by using the code FAUCILIED.

Here are the top FIVE takeaways from Fauci's hearing:

Social distancing was BUNK

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After a closed-door hearing in January where Fauci admitted that the 6-foot social distancing rule imposed on all Americans allegedly for our safety "wasn’t based on data," Fauci tried to distance himself from the controversial edict. Fauci shifted the blame to the CDC, claiming that he had little to nothing to do with the order.

Fauci is "open" to Covid origin possibilities

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For YEARS we were told COVID-19 originated from bats in China, and anyone who dared to offer any other suggestions—like the theory that COVID-19 leaked from the massive virology lab that worked on Coronaviruses and happened to be in the same city the pandemic originated in—was ridiculed as a conspiracy theorist. Now that the lab leak theory has been all but confirmed, Fauci is singing a different tune. On Monday, Fauci claimed he has always kept an "open mind" about the origin of the virus.

Deleted emails and FOIA evasions

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A series of emails released by the House Oversight Committee indicate that some NIH officials, including Fauci, were attempting to avoid public record laws by deleting emails and sending information to personal email addresses. In one such released email sent to Fauci from Dr. David Morens suggested they use personal emails so “there is no worry about FOIAs” [Freedom of Information Act].

MTG outburst

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The infamous Georgia congresswoman was arguably the star of the hearing, taking the opportunity to make her criticisms of Fauci known. Rep. Greene called for Fauci's medical license to be revoked and to throw him in jail. Throughout her time on the microphone, Greene refused to refer to Fauci as "doctor," instead calling him "Mr. Fauci."