RADIOApril 07, 2022

14 ways to PREPARE for food shortages around the world

Inflation is high in America, but that’s not the only place. Other countries — like Peru, for example — already are experiencing some terrifying consequences from high prices around the world. That — coupled with the war in Ukraine — means we could be facing not only food shortages, but shortages in fuel, fertilizer, aluminum, and neon as well. So, what can we do NOW to prepare? Glenn lists 14 WAYS to prepare for food shortages, inflation, and unpredictability TODAY.

Watch Glenn's entire Wednesday Night Special on this topic here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_fSrWmHo5M

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GLENN: So we have inflation. We all know that we have inflation. And it's not just here in America. Inflation many Peru, is getting so bad now, the proven authorities, have -- have been in a scuffle in the streets. Six people were reported dead. Then the president came out, put a state of emergency out. Placed the capital under curfew.

The next morning, he had to backtrack, and withdrew the curfew. Because nobody listened to that curfew. His -- I love this statement. You're going to love this, Stu. His statement to the press is, Peru is not really going through a good moment. Suboptimal.

STU: Suboptimal. Yes.

GLENN: Suboptimal. Now 11 people are Ted. It's because of high gas prices. High food prices. Everything is hitting the economy. Their inflation now is 9.5 percent. Almost 10 percent, is what they're dealing with. We're at 7.5. But that's on me at 7.5. But that's because you calculated it the way we did when we had inflation like this last time during the 1970s and '80s. We would be about at 15 percent inflation. That's the real number, that you're feeling right now. Not this 7.9 or 7.5 percent.

STU: Which is still really bad.

GLENN: Still bad. Still really bad. So they're trying to blame the rise of gas prices on the Ukrainian war. And that is contributing. But prices were already on the rise, before invasion began. And that's because we're flooding the U.S. dollar, all across the world. I mean, Noah, build a freaking ark. The money wave is coming. In Germany, if you went to the grocery store on Sunday, this just a few days ago, you bought groceries. If you forgot something, you really regretted it. If you went to the grocery store, on Monday. Because Monday, food prices went up between 20 and 50 percent on every item. They're freaking out, just a little bit.

Now, farmers and ranchers have been ringing this bell for a while. But the federal government is not doing anything. About the real crisis, that is happening with the farms and the ranches. Why? ESG. They're going to cripple them. But in the meantime, if you look at the food commodity price index, it's up with vegetable oil. Cereals. Dairy, meat, sugar. Way above normal. And rising. A large chunk of the wheat production, comes from Ukraine and Russia. Bizarrely, not us anymore. I don't know when that changed. But it's shameful. Shameful what we have done. Not only is the wheat production now closing down in Ukraine and Russia. But also fertilizer. Just from inflation and the Ukrainian war, we are now looking at shortages, coming in food, fuel, fertilizer, aluminum, and neon. Yes? No more -- no more heat signs. Can't make them. Can't make them. Actually, neon is -- is used to make silicon chips. We use them for high-tech.

STU: Oh, no issue with that. No chip shortage whatsoever.

GLENN: Yeah. Now, aluminum affects the price of all your canned goods. China is locking back down again. Due to another wave of covid. And it was as serious as it was the last time, when everything stopped coming from China.

We don't have any idea how bad this is going to get. We are now -- listen to this. We are now the largest food importer, in the world. We import more food, than anyone else. China has more than double our population. Yet, we double the amount of food, that we import.

STU: And for, what? Almost four times our population.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. But we import double than they do. That should tell you, how out of control this country is. How we have just paid attention to all of the wrong things. We aren't making our own medicines anymore. We're not making anything. If the world -- nobody is really talking about this. If the world does go bipolar, we now have a unipolar world. The United States and the West pretty much runs everything. You go bipolar, like we did with the Cold War, all of that fuel, that comes from the Soviet Union, all of the medicine and chips, and everything else, that comes from China. Gone. What does that mean for us? So here's what it means to me. Prepare. And I want to go through some things, with you. On how to prepare your family. Now, I know that Bloomberg has said, ride the bus. Or my favorite was, eat beans. I love that one.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: I mean, at least Marie Antoinette said, cake. You know what I mean?

STU: He is riding the bus to Bermuda?

GLENN: Yeah. He is. Yeah, he is. He has a house down there. So let me give you a few things that I came up with, and also Carol Roth, who is going to be on the program tomorrow. Also came up with. And she's been working with people online, saying, okay. What are you doing? We have to think like our grandparents, if your grandparents survived the Great Depression. Inflation means your -- your dollar. It's not the price of the goods that is going up. This is so important to understand. And you can learn about it in the Tuttle Twins books. It means that your dollar is worth less.

The products aren't worth more. Your dollar is -- has buying power that has been lessened. Okay? So when -- when the prices increase, what you can buy decreases in volume. Okay? For item that see are going to go up in price. And this is an article, by Carol Roth, at TheBlaze.com. You try to lock in the prices today. This is something I've been saying, if you need something, buy two. Store the other one, and don't use it. Don't use it.

This way, you're not paying the higher price in the future. You're saving money, by buying two of everything right now. Also, you might want to talk to goods and services providers, to see if they can give you a discount on any bulk purchase, or paying in full today. Just make sure that the goods aren't perishable, or that you know how to properly store them. For any ongoing services, you prebuy. Make sure they're from companies you believe will still be in business, when you need to use them. She said Twitter followers responded that they are cutting out grocery stores, and going straight to the farmers. This is a fantastic idea. Some are finding friends and families to split a cow for meat, freezing as much as they can, to secure better pricing. Others with the ability to care for them. Are getting chickens for eggs. Et cetera. Many individuals are planting or canning Venezuela, dealing directly with local farmers, via the farmer's market. Or contacting them directly. And this is helping keep important food prices down. I can't recommend highly enough, that you either plant your own food. If you're a farmer, plant your food. If you have space for a garden, plant your own food. You can't do any of those things. Go meet the farmers. And talk to them directly. Because they need your support. And you need their food. The other thing is, get into a farmer's market. And if you don't have a farmer's market, start one. We need farmer's markets in all of our towns. You've got to think locally. One of the Twitter followers, with Carol said, in December, I established a local liberty urban homestead market. It's a group on Facebook. The goal is to set aside some space we have, in our urban and suburban homes, to grow or raise something, to exchange with others. Completely voluntary. Tee centralized. And pier to pier. This is really a great idea. Anything that you can do, that is voluntary. Decentralized. And peer-to-peer is great. Bartering is peer-to-peer. And it is always used in tough economic times. Goods. Food products. All of it can be bartered. If you have a skill, like you need somebody to tell you a story. I'm there. I'm there. You know what I mean? I've got skills that are -- oh. So valuable, in things like the great depression. Yeah. I can -- I can sit and talk. Or not talk.

I could tell stories.

STU: I don't know that you're capable of not talking. I think there's just talking.

GLENN: All right. Well, I can work on the rest of that. I've got no skills. You and I both, we're dead.

STU: Oh, toast.

GLENN: We starve to death. I got no skills.

STU: We provide finely marbled meat to farmers.

GLENN: That's exactly right. If you go the barter route, make sure you're very clear of the expectations of both parties. Having something written down helps avoid problems in the future.

Also, note that barter transactions are taxable. Make sure you keep track of the bartering, and speak with your accountant for guidance on how to account for all of this and the tax implications. You have to do that. If you want to -- this brings me to the next thing, that I think is one of the toughest. Location, location, location. Live near like-minded people. Lots of them. Texas. Florida. Mountains. Any place. The Amish. Any place -- I mean, you would have to wear black. But you can blend in. But I can't use the blender or the TV or the radio? What? Just put on a black dress. You're fine. I mean, even if you're a man, you will be fine. They are so woke. Any place where God plays a role. Because you are going to need to be around like-minded people, who believe in a higher power. For good. That's kind of important. If you can't move, fine. Most people can't. If you can't move, create a network of people. Find a network, and create it. Start your 9/12 Project. To get whatever it is. But find a network of people, around you. That you can contact, and you can work together. Don't be alone.

By the way, when this hits, where you are, is where you will be. I am convinced of that. I could be wrong. But I don't see people buying a lot of gas for trucks and things going across the country. When it happens, that's where you will be. Make sure you think about that, right now. Moving is a serious consideration. It is so tough. I've got kids in school. You've had maybe kids in school. Family. You've built a life. It's really tough. But at least consider it, if you are alone, in the area.

I'm going to take a quick break, then I'm going to come back, and talk to you a little bit about money. Electronics. Your school, and your life at home, and life at work, coming up in just a second. First, let me tell you about the Tuttle Twins. You know, I just mentioned that inflation is a big part of our life. Inflation is so important, to understand. And if you don't understand, what inflation is, how it works, who is responsible, how to get out of inflation. We're in real trouble. The Tuttle Twins books. I've told you about for a while.

They are for your kids. And they help your kids learn really important principles. This one is the creature from Jekyll island. I'm bringing this one up. This one is from a series, but you can buy this book. Actually, I've asked them to give it away for free. I think this is so important. Every household should have this. Even if you think you can explain it. Even if you think you know what the fed is, how it works. What inflation is. Get this book, and pass it on to somebody. Because it's really easy to understand it. It's the Tuttle Twins and the creature from Jekyll island. Vital. So vital, that I have asked them to give it for free. All you pay for is shipping. So go to TuttleTwinsBeck.com while the supplies last. Get your free copy from the Tuttle Twins. The Creature from Jekyll island. TuttleTwinsBeck.com. Ten-second station ID.

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GLENN: Just trying to go down a list of things to be prepared for. This list at GlennBeck.com. We also have to take the preparedness test. I would love to take that with you. See how different we are. That's at GlennBeck.com. How prepared are you.

STU: I don't know if I would be embarrassed by that. Because my outcome would be terrible compared to yours. But that's always been the case. Of all situations. So far, it's worked out okay.

GLENN: Worked out okay. Keep going. Soy sauce. Duck sauce. You're fine. You're fine.

STU: Right. That's all the food groups.

GLENN: That's right.

STU: Soy sauce is one food group. Duck sauce is the other.

GLENN: It's meat and vegetables. That's what it is. What else to a need? You have soy. It's a vegetable.

STU: It's pretty much a vegetable. Duck sauce is not made from duck. But we can count it.

GLENN: I think it is. All right. So let me go with money. The money that you have right now, you are going to lose. Let's put $1,000 in your bank account. You will lose 10 percent of that, every year. Just leaving it in the bank account. 10 percent of that, every year. For the next ten years.

So what does that leave you with, at the end?

STU: That's not good. I'll tell you that.

GLENN: It's not good. It's not good. And that's not coming from me. That's coming from Barack Obama's Treasury secretary. He said that a couple of weeks ago. And he said, that's baked in. That's bare minimum. Bare minimum.

So your money is going to be worth less and less, until it's worthless. And then they will change over in the currency. So what do you have as a storehouse, to be able to keep your money valued at something?

What can you buy that will forever hold its value? Well, that's where gold and silver come in. Some people will say bitcoin. That's risky. I mean, but everything is. But gold and silver, I know, and silver can be used for bartering. Gold can be used for bartering. It's -- it's good that way. And it's Biblical. I mean, it's been there forever. When the world goes insane, and governments go insane. They devalue their money. And everybody returns to gold. So gold.

But also, food has great value. Cigarettes have some value. Liquor. I mean, let me just tell you. As an alcoholic, I would have -- I would have -- I would have -- you know, you have a problem with your neighbor. I would have eaten them, if I had to. If you had alcohol, and I had none.

So -- but I'm not saying play off the desperate alcoholics. But I am saying --

STU: That seems what you're saying.

GLENN: Well, it's not that I'm not saying that. But I am saying that it is also medicinal. It is something --

STU: Ah. I like that -- that's an alcoholic talking right there. Oh, it's medicinal.

GLENN: If anybody watch 1883 -- if you saw what they had to do in 1883, I better have a lot of alcohol on my hands. So, anyway, alcohol. Cigarettes. Sugar. Ammunition. Guns. Seeds. Those are all very, very important. Skills are really important. I mean, can you fix an engine? I can't. I can't fix a new engine. No. I don't know anybody that can fix a new engine. But I can't even fix an old engine. Which brings me via a truck or vehicle in 1979. Something you can learn to fix yourself.

Try to have at least two weeks, if you can. Thirty days of cash on hand. So, in other words, whatever you spend, if you can, have it, I think for a couple of weeks. If you can. It's a lot of money. But try to have whatever it is that you would spend, minimal, that way, if there is a banking crisis, which this will go into a bank shutdown. Like it did in the 1930s. They will do that. And you're going to need to have something on hand. Otherwise, you're like. But George! All my money is in the savings and loan. You're going to need to have some cash. More in just a minute.

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No, it's not. Not good.

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STU: All the details on how to prepare were on the show last night. Don't miss it. BlazeTV.com/Glenn. The promo code is the Alamo.

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GLENN: This is the Glenn Beck Program. I'm going through some things I went through last night on the Wednesday night special. About what is coming, and how to prepare. It's not to freak anybody out. Well, let me just tell you this. This might freak you out. We all survive, okay? Most of us. We survive. Make it through this. It's going to be bumpy and rough. But we've done it before. Humans have done this before. We are very -- literally and figuratively, out of shape. We don't understand -- don't waste. We don't understand reuse. Repair. We don't get that. We are a very disposable group of people. The head of BlackRock came out, what was it? Last week, and said, you know, this is a generation of people who just want everything now. And they've never had to deal with real need. And they've got a real eye-opening experience. Oh, well, thank you Mr. BlackRock. But we do. We all do. All of us. And I can't tell you -- hmm. You know what's weird? I do this show for everybody. But I know there are people that listen to this show differently. Have ears that hear and eyes that see. And so I hope you're in that category. But if you are, and I take this medicine myself, believe me. We have to be in shape. We have to have our bodies in shape. It's going to be harder for medicine. And everything else. There will be shortages of things. So we just need to be as healthy as we can be. Eat the right things. And be as -- and do that mind, body, and spirit. It's critical. And sometime in the future, I'll explain why. But start on that now. Buy a house. Buy property. Don't overspend. Don't get crazy. But don't be afraid of the future. Don't be afraid of the future. You have to move on -- everything I'm doing right now, has a double purpose. If it doesn't serve now and through a storm, I don't do it. I've changed a lot here recently. I feel strongly, that the seasons have changed. And -- and with it, I am shockingly, to myself changing as well.

STU: Because you've talked about the Case-Shiller Index. And how it is right now. This is a very overheated housing market. Right now, is it the time to buy?

GLENN: I guess -- I don't want to give anybody financial advice. What I'm trying to say, I guess. Is don't -- don't spend your days, worrying about tomorrow. Do the next right thing. Okay? Understand that what's coming tomorrow, is unlike anything we've witnessed in our lifetime. Unless you lived through the Great Depression. We have not witnessed anything like this before. And so you've got to think out of the box. That's why our grandparents were so afraid. Because they didn't think that kind of stuff could happen. And then it happened. And they were pretty prepared for things. Because they lived, you know, on farms. They canned and everything else. So they weathered that storm. But it freaked them out, so much. That all the way until my who can't understand parents died, they were still saving every scrap. Every can. Every -- wrapping paper. They always saved all of. And they used to say, you don't know how fast it can come. Well, we don't. We don't even think it can come. So stop all excess spending. Stop spending on stupid stuff. And when you do buy things, buy quality. You've got to teach your kids, and maybe yourself, don't buy things with holes in it, okay? Because you'll earn those holes. Those clothes will have holes in it eventually. Measure twice, cut once. Consider fuel efficient trucks and SUVs. If you can find them. Make -- get off electronics as much as you can. Make paper copies of all of your paper documents. Know where the deeds are to anything that you own. Learn to use a map. Teach your kids on how to use a map and then have maps. When it comes to business. If you are -- somebody else's employee, be the one employee, that no one can fire. Be the Swiss army knife. Whatever needs to be done, do it. Don't wait for anybody to ask. You see something, do it. Be the American worker, that we used to be. If you are in business for yourself, be the product or the service, that no one can cancel. Stay in business, just preserve. Preserve, preserve. Honesty, integrity, and charity. Needs -- it's paramount in business. And really, in life. No one is going to know who to trust, in -- unless you have engaged in honesty, if you have integrity, and you are known as a charitable, kind, helpful person. You're -- you're not going to help anybody. Because nobody is going to listen to anybody. You need to be known as a source of good and light. This is a conversation we're having with my kids right now. I'm not sending you to school. You want to go to school. Fine. You pay for it. But I'm not paying for your destruction. Also, I don't think everybody needs to have those -- the higher education. I'm not enamored by Yale or Harvard or Columbia. I don't really care. I don't really care. Did you learn what you needed to learn. Now, I mean if you're a doctor, meaning, an actual hands in someone's chest doctor, yeah. I want you to go to the best schools. But there is something to be said for trade schools as well. My son wants to eventually build his own car. Good. You should start with knowing how to change a spark plug. And mechanics, and people who can fix things. They are going to be wanted and needed. Forget all of this crap, that that's beneath my son. No, it's not. Teach your kids, college is not a given. Educate yourself at all times. Always be reading and have hard copies of important books. Learn old or lost practices. Mending. Canning. Farming. Fixing an engine. Serve and share in your life. This one has taken on new meaning to me, recently. I understand this now more deeply than I ever have.

I am -- I'm -- I'm a guy who, I like to collect stuff. I mean, you watch the show last night. I showed you the missile collection, that I have, from Russia. Russian missiles, that they're actually using now, on the Ukrainians. I have a bunch of them. And I have a bunch of stuff, that the Ukrainians were using to fight the Russians, just to be able to tell the story, visually. I love collecting stuff.

Yeah. Every dollar I make, and I would encourage you to think this way. Every dollar you now make, needs to be viewed as sacred money. What can I do, to help build up -- straight with you. Remember when I said, Stu. When I started talking like this, you'll know. I think -- I think I'm there. You need to think about your money as building up the kingdom of God. You need to start preparing the way. And -- and don't spend money, on stupid stuff. Because we -- we're going to need each other. Teach your children, the things that matter. Forget about running them to soccer practice, if you're not teaching them values and principles. Teach those things first. Do less -- do with less now. It will help your family take the shock a lot better. Read the Bible. Plan. Pray. Listen. Obey.

Have a gun. Know how to shoot it. Have ammunition. Understand that anger is a part of your life. This is so important. Anger will be a part of life. But never feed it. Be honorable in all of your dealings. Especially when nobody is going to know. Be honorable at all times. And be optimistic and happy. Because life does go on. Life is going to get really good. Should we choose? Life is going to get really good. It's going to suck on the way there. But it is going to get good. Make plans for the future. Get married. Have children. Don't listen to people who say, you're going to bring them up in a world like this? Yeah. Because they were -- they were meant to be born at this time. I'm telling you now, our children -- our children are important. And they were born for this time. And they will be able to help heal and rebuild. They are critical. Don't buy into the lie.

If you want more, there's a much more on the website, at GlennBeck.com. There's a much more on the website at GlennBeck.com. There's a how prepared are you? Stu and I will take that together here in a minute. How prepared are you, for whatever is coming? And will you be able to be a leader. You can find that at GlennBeck.com. Also, all these things there at GlennBeck.com. You can watch last night's special, Hunger Games. Not like we're going to be in games killing each other. Just, we have hunger. So what are we going to do? How are we going to do it? Be a leader. Take control of your life. Do not be at the mercy of others. You can find that show, at BlazeTV.com/Glenn. If you haven't joined us yet, we plan on being the Alamo. The very last outpost of truth. There is nothing that will stop us. You know, until they just come crawling over the walls, like they did in the Alamo. But we will be standing. Join us. We can't do it without your support. Join us now. At BlazeTV.com/Glenn. Use the promo code, the Alamo. No space. And save 20 bucks off your subscription now. BlazeTV.com/Glenn. Promo code the Alamo.

AI military drone maker reveals the FUTURE of warfare

The next war will look VERY different, now that we have AI. Glenn speaks with Brandon Tseng, co-founder and president of Shield AI, a company making AI-powered drones and autonomous planes for the US Military. Brandon discusses his drone planes like the X-BAT, and also gives his take on new foreign weapons, like Putin’s new nuclear-powered cruise missile: "It sounds dumb."

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GLENN: The cofounder and president of Shield AI, Brandon Tseng is with us. He's a former Navy SEAL. How old are you? You look like you're 14. How old are you?

BRANDON: I'm 39.

GLENN: Thirty-nine. Anyway, you have -- you are making a huge the difference in the AI world, especially with defense. Especially well the expat. A new plane. Do you call them drones, or are they planes?

BRANDON: Expats are a vertical takeoff launch and land AI-piloted fighter jet. Sometimes when people think drones, they just think quad copters. Except, there's a whole world of drones.

GLENN: It's weird. You either think of the quad copters, or you just think of those gigantic gray drones.

BRANDON: Yeah. The Predators and Reapers, yeah.

GLENN: And we're not like that anymore, either. Right? Have we updated those?

BRANDON: No. So Shield AI builds a miniature version of said drone. That's also vertical takeoff launch and land. It's called the Vbat, weighs about 180 pounds. But it's meant to do the mission of these $40 million drones for a fraction of the cost. And so we've been using that with US forces, oh, man. Now, probably since 2019, but most recently, we've been working with the US Coast Guard. We've interdicted billions of drugs in the Caribbean. So you just set a record with the US Coast Guard, interdicting 20 tons --

GLENN: Are you blowing up the boats, or are you just --

BRANDON: Shield AI is not blowing up any boats. But, yeah, the Coast Guard is setting them on fire after the whole thing is said and done.

GLENN: Wow. So -- so let me -- let me go into the -- the future of warfare.

Because it -- it's a little freaky. And I don't even know. There's a story that just came out today. Because we're negotiating with Russia.

And Russia is always beating their chest. And they have something new.

This one, just sounds crazy. CNN, this morning. Putin claimed successful test of long range nuclear-powered cruise missile, amid diplomatic breakdown. And what this cruise missile is, you launch it. It's not just nuclear-tipped. It's nuclear-powered as well.

So the idea is, it would just stay up in space. And it will just stay up there until it's directed to hit something. Which I guess, you not only blow a city up.

But you also have the China syndrome happening at the same time. I don't even get it. What do you think of this weapon?

BRANDON: Yeah. It sounds crazy. It sounds dumb. It sounds overengineered. I mean, it actually reminds me of some of the things the US was doing in the '50s. I don't know if you know this. We had something called the Davey Crockett nuclear rocket. Which was a hand-held nuclear rocket launcher. They said, only a Navy rocket would be crazy enough to shoot this thing. Because you're firing a nuclear bomb over your shoulder. And you hope it goes far enough.

That's --

GLENN: 1950s were kind of scary.

BRANDON: Yeah. You can Wikipedia this stuff. It's in there. Kind of scary. Right with the nuclear-powered cruise missile. Fifteen hours. Like, okay. Now, why do you need it to be up in the air for 15 hours?

You're seeing where this thing is. It becomes an easier target for people to shoot down. And then to the point, now, what do you have if this thing actually blows up, at any point, whether we take it out, or they take it out. Now you have nuclear material over some area?

Like, again, something I could see. Some crazy scientist and engineers working on, something that I believe has near zero utility on the battlefield in any -- like, even -- even by the Russians.

GLENN: What about the hypersonic missiles now?

BRANDON: Yeah, no, the hypersonics are -- look, what I'm a big proponent of is first principles of warfare. So like mass, maneuver, speed is another principle of warfare. And so what the hypersonics are getting after is that first principle of the speed.

It's like, look, if you can hit your targets faster than they can react. There's something to do that. In that range, at that standoff, at that offset, that is something that is pretty interesting. Now, the challenge that the United States has had. Has been around to getting these to a feasible level.

And I know there's some efforts to bring down the cost of hypersonics. But it's also what makes it incredibly difficult, is when you start to go hypersonic. You know, multiple interdicts of Mach 1.0, to Mach 2, 3, 4. That is a hard, hard, hard, hard physics problem.

GLENN: Right.

You know, I've always felt like, whenever we saw something, you know, when you -- when you first saw the stealth bomber, we were probably on the second iteration. You know what I mean?

We were always -- we didn't always just show what we had.

Is that true anymore?

Do we have things that the world doesn't know, that --

BRANDON: I don't think we have too many things that the world doesn't know about.

Certainly, there are classified programs.

And I think the US does have a couple -- not technologies. You know, up its -- its sleeve. Just like, you know, concepts. Operating concepts.

Is what I would say. We still are like pretty good at.

And so what you're seeing today is in the military world.

You see a lot in the -- you know, just the consumer software world. Where industry is really leading, in this day and age.

So you see industry leading the customer, more than what I would say in the past, right?

In the '80s. '90s. Early 2000s. You would seat customer leading industry to what --

GLENN: We want to do this.

BRANDON: Yeah. Exactly.

GLENN: Are we -- are you concerned at all, with -- with AI and technology being so readily available, and cheap?

You know, everywhere.

That everybody can -- can do some really bad damage. You know, you don't have to be a -- you don't have to be the United States of America.

BRANDON: Yeah. Look, I think every new technology is a double-edged sword. It can produce a ton of value for the world. It can do a lot of value for the world. And at the same time, we put that technology into the wrong person's hands, it can do damage to the world. And so I think the same was true of the internet.

The same is true of now providing compute power into massive amount of compute power into someone's hand, just via an IPhone or an android phone. And so I don't look at AI -- like, I don't worry about AI and autonomy.

And I think it's wrong to prohibit the advancement of a technology, simply because, you know, some wrong can be done with it.

GLENN: Right.

BRANDON: There's a ton of things, where a lot of wrong, we've seen this.

A lot of things can be weaponized. Whether it's an airplane. Whether it's a car. Whether it's the internet. You name it.

But these technologies aren't bad for the sake of being a new technology.

GLENN: Yeah.

I've talked to the president about this several times. The one thing that freaks him out, keeps him up at night is nuclear world. He said, I rebuilt the nuclear arsenal. And he said, you don't even want to understand what we can do. He's like, it's -- it's always been bad. He said, it's -- it's colossally bad. And once it starts, it's over.

And he's really -- he does, I think -- what little sleep he does get, I think there are times where he has lost sleep over war on nuclear, with nuclear weapons.

Is there any of this new technology, is there anything about AI or any of this stuff that freaks you out, that you think, this is really scary, if it -- if it goes wrong or whatever?

BRANDON: Yeah. The way I think about it is, look, nuclear deterrence, has deterred nuclear war since we -- since 1945.

GLENN: Yes. Right. Yeah.

BRANDON: And that largely stopped world wars for the past 80-plus years.

GLENN: Right.

BRANDON: And so our conventional deterrence has been dominated by our aircraft carriers and our submarines in terms of how we deter large state-on-state conflicts in this day and age. It's with these -- along with the number of other, you know, levers that we pull. Economic levers. Diplomacy levers. But the military lever has been dominated by our aircraft carriers, our air power, and our submarines.

GLENN: Sure.

BRANDON: So where I see the world going. It's like AI and autonomy is enabling this next generation of deterrence. Because our legacy weapons systems, they're not as well-respected. Our aircraft carriers are not as respected as they once were. Right?

GLENN: I'm a sitting duck.

BRANDON: Yeah, when the enemy has antiship missiles that outrange what these carriers can launch with our jets.

And they have surface-to-air missile systems that can target any fuel tanker, like, that's when you see your conventional deterrence capabilities start to erode.

AI and autonomy is that massive unlock for the military, for our allies.

It enables, you know, the United States to feel millions of drones. You can't feel millions of drone pilots.

We don't have enough people.

Aren't enough people signing up.

What you can do is enable small groups of people to feel these drone swarms that I believe will be the most strategic conventional deterrence for the next 25 years. And again, that's why I started Shield AI. We have the tag line. The greatest victory requires no war.

It is about having such a dominant military that any adversary thinks twice before starting, either a straightforward conflict or an asymmetric one.

GLENN: Are you concerned about -- you know, Elon Musk says. And I don't know how true this is.

But Elon Musk says we are the new Grok.
I think it's five or six that is coming. Is 60 percent close to AGI. Are you concerned about AGI and ASI? And what that might mean?

BRANDON: I'm not concerned about AGI, but I'm an eternal optimist. And so I put that disclaimer out there. It's really hard to say what 60 percent of AGI means.

GLENN: Right.

BRANDON: What I do think is really interesting, really fascinating.

It's now what is possible in this day and age with AI and autonomy. And I'll share something cool that I looked up the other day, and why I'm an optimist around it.

I asked Grok 4, I said, "What was the economic impact of the internet from 2000 to 2025 on global GDP by a cumulative basis?" Its estimate was 134 trillion dollars' worth of economic value, attributed to that core underlying technology, being the internet.

A ton of value created for the world. I then asked it, what is the value of AI and autonomy going to be for the world from 2025 to 2050, estimated that. It's estimate -- maybe it's biased if it's AI estimating itself.

Was -- yeah. Yeah. Four and a half quadrillion dollars, forty times bigger than the internet. And so that world. Again, I'm a techno optimist. I get excited about that.

It's hard to really understand or fathom what that world looks like, but I think it's going to be a net positive for the world in a way that so many underlying core technologies of life have been.

Now, it doesn't mean that there's -- it's all sunshine and -- and rainbows. There's going to be some bad actors out there with it for sure.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. So last question, I hate to ask you this. But I have to ask you this: Being a guy who is in into drones, everything else. What we saw last year over New Jersey, what the hell was that?

BRANDON: I -- I don't understand know what it was in New Jersey.

But I don't like the idea that there was anybody able to fly drones at all.

GLENN: Yeah. Those were large too.

BRANDON: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if it was another state.

I don't know if people were pulling pranks. Like they've done in the past. I don't know what it was.

GLENN: But do you think it could have been us?

BRANDON: No. I think it was someone else. Is what I think it was.

GLENN: That's a little frightening.

BRANDON: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't know what it was though. So, yeah.

GLENN: Have you ruled out extraterrestrial.

BRANDON: I probably haven't paid enough attention to it. But, yeah. I don't know what it was.

GLENN: That's a little frightening. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

We'll be watching.

You bet.

THE GLENN BECK PODCAST

He Hunted SATANIST Mexican Cartels and SURVIVED | Dave Franke | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 272

Dave Franke stared down the cartel in Mexico’s blood-soaked Zacatecas — and lived. Now he tells Glenn the unfiltered truth: The cartels are “absolutely” operating inside the United States. Through raw, firsthand accounts, he rips the veil off the narco-satanic cult of Santa Muerte — the Saint of Death — and the savage brutality it fuels. Trump calls the cartels “the ISIS of the Western hemisphere,” and his Homeland Security Task Force has already seized thousands of terrorists and cartel operatives, two million fentanyl pills, and 70 tons of narcotics. But Dave warns: We’ve barely “scratched the surface.” Facing entrenched corruption, human trafficking, and a highly profitable drug trade, Glenn and Dave debate a radical fix — legalize drugs — and ask the explosive question: Does our government let the cartels thrive in exchange for intel, just like in "Ozark"? It’s the story that neither Fox nor CNN would let Glenn tell finally coming to the light, but is it already too late?

“He’s killing it”: The truth about Trump’s 2028 power team

Will Vice President JD Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio team up for a 2028 presidential run? Glenn Beck asked them both, separately, and shockingly, they gave him the SAME answer. Glenn reveals what they said, as well as what they said about President Trump...

Transcript

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GLENN: Blaze.com has a news story out: J.D. Vance responds to the possibility of a Vance/Rubio presidential ticket. Responds to a --
I -- I love his response. He was speaking on Pod Force One. It's a podcast from the New York Post. And they asked him about, you know, how do you feel about a Vance/Rubio ticket?

And he said, it -- well, you know, we get along really, really well. The reason why we're successful, is because all of us work together really well.

STU: Which is not necessarily the case of the first term. You cannot say that about the people working in the White House.

GLENN: No. And most. Most.

I mean, I was saying this to a friend of mine, we were talking. And he asked me about a Vance/Rubio ticket. And I said, I talked to J.D. Vance and Rubio in the hallways of the White House. Just recently.

And about that. And I said, and they both said exactly the same thing.

Let's get through the next three and a half years. Things could change quickly in the next three and a half years.

STU: It's true.

There is a feeling I think on the right. That there's a lot of exciting things happening. Many of them positive.

GLENN: Three and a half years say long way.

STU: We are a long ways away. We are a long way away from the midterm elections.

I mean, think about this. We are what know.

We are -- to this point, closer to Trump's inauguration, than we are to the midterms.

GLENN: To the midterms.

STU: That seems impossible!

GLENN: I know. Impossible.

STU: In my head. But that's true to this moment.

GLENN: It's true. So it's crazy how much could change in the next four years, let alone the next one year.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: And things are going really, really well.

STU: That's for us. I know you're moving on to something else. The left hates this more than they've hated anything ever. Every person I've known on the left has been driven completely insane by this.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. By all of this, or by all of the leadership. Of the other side?

I mean, what -- what is really driving them insane

STU: They're totally driven by Trump. I'm not revealing anything new here. I think it's more extreme now, than it was in the first term.

GLENN: It is. But it's not -- they're not driven insane by Donald Trump.

I mean, Donald Trump does -- he does help them along, because he likes toying with them.

STU: Sure. Sure.

GLENN: So that doesn't help.

However, it is -- the response from the media. And the response from the Democrats that have made him into Hitler.

Not Donald Trump.

STU: No. I mean, their analysis of Donald Trump is that he's the worst human being of all time. I think that's helped along by leadership. Helped along by the media.

GLENN: They would elect Pol Pot over Donald Trump.

At this point.

STU: Pol Pot implemented a lot of policies that they liked.

GLENN: That's true. That's true. We should all be against the killing fields. But at this point, I'm not sure they would be against the killing fields.

STU: I don't know if the Hamas wing of the democratic party is against the killing fields.

I'm not sure about that. But I will say, if you look at overall. You look at approval ratings of Donald Trump. They're not at their highest point right now. That's not just Democrats.

That's the entire country.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: So if that were to continue, if a couple things go wrong, if the economy turns down.

We talked a lot about the economy being at risk, especially outside of the AI bubble.

I was reading something yesterday about, you know, the AI situation. It's funny. It's basically giving us all of these gains. It's almost all AI-related. All these -- we talked to experts about this. It's almost all a bunch of money being passed in between like seven companies.

And at the end of the day, let's just say that were to collapse. It would hurt our economy. And who knows where we would be.

GLENN: Even if it doesn't collapse, think of all the jobs that are probably going to be lost in the next three years. We're starting to see jobs lost because of AI now. It's going to become very, very unpopular.

And AI I think is going to become very, very unpopular. And those who, you know, are using AI. This is getting very dicey for me. I'm starting to regret everything that I've done in the last two years.

But it's going to become very, very unpopular, because it will take jobs. If companies decide to use it as people, and not as a tool for people. But, anyway, let's -- let's move on.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: The one thing. The one thing that they said, that is the point I wanted to make on this was, and they say it in TheBlaze article.

A lot of the good work we've done is because we do it as an administration, and we're all able to work together. What both of them said to me, on separate occasions, when I said this was, I said to Rubio and to Vance. You are killing it!

You're just killing it right now. And they both said, no, no, no. Both of them separately. No, no, no, no. He's killing it. Pointing to the Oval Office, "He's killing it. We're just following what he is directing us to do."

And I'm like, "Yeah. But you're also doing a very effective job at doing that. I've seen presidents give orders. I saw Donald Trump trying to give orders last time. And it didn't work out well."

And he's like, "No. We're a great, great team."

STU: That's good to hear.

GLENN: Yeah, but what I wanted to say was, I can't think of a time in my lifetime, I mean, I was not around the White House of the Reagan years. So I don't know. But I can't think of a time where I have seen honest credit, given by the top leadership in hallway conversations, to the president.

You know what I mean?

It was -- because it was honest. It was real. It wasn't like, you know. Oh, no.

It's not me. It's him. It was real.

No, no, no. You don't understand. His grand strategy amazing.

And we're just following it.

You know, that told me a lot.

A lot.

And told me a lot about the quality of people around him.

STU: And to be honest about it. It's also the right answer.

You didn't get the sense that they -- they are saying the thing they know is going to keep them in the good graces.

GLENN: No, I didn't. I didn't.

STU: That's good. That's really good.

GLENN: Yeah, I don't think either of those guys would have said -- they would have said thank you. It wasn't like that. It wasn't like that. It was no, no, no, no. You don't understand. He is running the show.

STU: I think the Venezuela boat situation is an interesting highlight of this.

Again, we've talked about all the questions about it. There's some stuff to discuss.

However, like, that is something that is super important, to Marco Rubio. Like, that is -- I would say, central to his -- that entire situation is very central to his belief system.

And his --

GLENN: Yes. Freeing the people of Venezuela.

STU: Really important to him. And the fact that Trump really takes that seriously. And is doing something about it, is really important to Rubio. I think it's --

GLENN: But I don't think -- see, that's the way I think most administrations would look at it, like I want to help Rubio out. I know you're really passionate about this. Let me do this. And I agree with you. But I really think, it's the other way around. I think Donald Trump is like, here's why this is important.

STU: Oh, I think --

GLENN: And it's a little bit with Rubio, what you're dealing with, what you're thinking. Let me show you the grand strategy of how it has to happen. And I think the big, big vision is coming from Donald Trump.

And it accomplishes everything that everybody else is looking to do. But it's much bigger vision.

The big vision is coming from him, I think.

STU: Yeah. I think, the other thing that is very central to Donald Trump belief system. Besides the idea that he doesn't want people coming across the border illegally. He's very against illegal subs. Not just a crime, that is associated with them.

But he's like, obviously, been really hard against that -- his entire life.

GLENN: No. I think -- I mean, I think -- I mean, you wouldn't do this, because of the Constitution.

But I think if he could, I think you would be like, yeah. Drug dealers. Execute.

STU: Well, he's kind of said that. What was the guy in the Philippines?

GLENN: Yeah, kind of like that. Look, he just kills them.

STU: And that's what some of the criticism is over the boats. Right?

Surprised to hear, there's not a lot of great trial attorneys involved in the process, when -- there's not defense being presented when -- when the drone is overhead. They believe these are threats. They believe they have this -- this -- that's going to go through the courts. It's going to be challenged.

GLENN: I know.

STU: And they will have to deal with that. But he is -- he is -- more importantly than stopping those drugs from coming in. Because you see the boats. You're like, well, what could that even do to our country? Swallowed up like -- that wouldn't even get through a Washington, DC, cocktail party, the amount of drugs they could carry on one of those boats.

GLENN: Well, if Hunter.

STU: If Hunter is there obviously.

GLENN: Or somebody else from the Biden administration.

STU: Right. Who knows who it could have been, with all the cocaine in the White House. But, I mean, the point there is, the message.

The message is quite clear what -- what they're sending to -- to Venezuela. Which is not just don't send boats. It is stop everything you're doing. By the way, did you notice that very large ship off your coast?

Like, we are sending all sorts of messages to them.

Much deeper than a please stop delivering some cocaine here.

GLENN: Do you think the fact that we sent one of our biggest bombers from North Dakota to just buzz the coastline. Just in the international waters.

STU: It's a beautiful coastline. Some sightseeing.

GLENN: Did you see this?

Two of our bombers from the air base in North Dakota ran what I would describe as -- and I think they want him to describe it in Venezuela, the same way. As a trial run!

Two times, now, we have sent two bombers. Big bombers. Right to the line of Venezuela. Right to international waters.

They flew all the way down from North Dakota. Down, made that run.

And then headed on home!

He is sending all -- the guy is brilliant.

He is sending all kinds of signals.

You guys should take care of him.

STU: What you know signal he's saying to me?

That he doesn't care about global warming. He see not care about the emissions from that plane.

GLENN: Hold on just a second.

Doesn't that feel good?

Why Trump’s “BAILOUT” of Argentina is actually AMERICA FIRST

Why did President Trump recently do a currency swap with Argentina and make a deal for Argentinian beef imports? Financial expert Carol Roth joins Glenn to explain why she believes these deals are actually America First and in our national security interests. Plus, Carol and Glenn discuss the effects of Trump's tariffs and the government shutdown.

Transcript

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GLENN: Carol, welcome to the program.

CAROL: Hi, Glenn. How are you?

GLENN: Good. Can you tell me what's going on in Argentina?

First of all, the currency swap. We didn't make a loan to Argentina. We made a currency swap. Which I'm not really -- I'm not really fond of the -- what is it? The piece zero. What is their currency down in Argentina?

CAROL: The Argentinian peso. You don't have a bunch of those in your vault with all your gold and silver?

GLENN: No. No. I don't. I don't.

But we do now, because we currency swapped, right? What's it mean?

CAROL: Yes, so this is -- this is not -- you know, just giving known Argentina for its government to spend. This is a financial support, which, by the way, currency swaps are not something that is unusual.

GLENN: Right.

CAROL: You know, we do this all the time with our allies, with Japan and Canada and what not. What is unusual in this particular situation, is how it's affected.

So basically, what happened is that we gave the Argentinian Central Bank dollars. We took as collateral the peso, and that is meant to support the Argentinian peso and help to stabilize this currency.

GLENN: Right.

CAROL: And a couple of things of note, one is how it was done is interesting. Because normally when we do currency swaps, and we have these lines, it's done through the Federal Reserve, or central bank.

This time, it was not. It was done through the Treasury, through something called the ESF. The Exchange Stabilization Fund, which is sort of a black box fund that allows Treasury to move quickly. You don't need Jay Powell. You don't need the approval of Congress in order to do these things.

GLENN: And that's what it was built for, to stabilize currency in friendly countries?

CAROL: And in the US, by the way,
because I can talk about the history and how we've used it in the US before. But just to kind of get to the Argentinian point. We did this, you know, before the election to help, you know, stabilize things for Milei, so that his government could win.

But we didn't do this because we think Milei is a good guy, or he has fabulous hair, even though we do think that.

The reason we did that is to secure our interests. Because you know who has been making a play in Argentina and throughout Latin America? You know who has had a long-term currency swap with Argentina. It's another country, I'll give you all a hint, and it rhymes with China. China's influence all around the world with their Belt and Road Initiatives where they're trying to dominate traditional infrastructure, digital infrastructure, financial infrastructure, we are trying to kick out their influence. For national security reasons. Also, it just so happens, that Argentina has the second largest reserve of lithium, as well as a smaller set of reserves of other rare-earth elements, that we need access to, for our economic and national security.

So that is what is underpinning all of this. It's because we don't want to be speaking mandarin one day.

GLENN: It's amazing how Donald Trump. People just don't understand this.

Everything he's doing in south marker, he's realigning the globe.

CAROL: Yes.

GLENN: He's doing -- he's doing his own version of America first, Great Reset, and he's just doing it by himself.

I mean, it's pretty incredible, isn't it? Carol?

It really is.

This is why, remember, when we first had the discussion by Scott Bessent.

And I eased everyone ever seen concerns.

Scott Bessent made his fortune on foreign currency exchange. There is nobody who understands the machinations of how you use currency to support countries, and also, you know, the impact on political influence. Like Scott Bessent.

So he has been side by side with President Trump. Who has said, you know. China's influence in South America is a national security issue.

It's a priority.

And, you know, at the time, when we're seeing a reset of the global financial order, and you had China making this very big play. At the same time, when we really have a serious issue with our fiscal foundation. At a minimum, we need to make sure that we have our hemisphere, locked down, before we can do anything else.

And China has really been focused on making inroads in Latin America, and that is what this is all about. And it's not just about the currency swap.

You talked about the importation of Argentina beef. That's a piece of it as well.

And we have to support US ranchers. We have to make it easier for them to do business. We have to remove regulation. This extra piece from Argentina, this is a long-term play. And I know that it's hard for people who are ranchers and who are dealing with this day to day. But this is a long-term play for national security. Because otherwise, it's not going to be Argentinians. It's going to be China that owns everything.

GLENN: Yeah. So I'm looking at Venezuela. What's happening there.

And I don't think that's about drug running. I mean, you know, it is about drug running. But it's not.

It's about, again, taking control of this hemisphere. True or false?

CAROL: Absolutely. And, I mean, this a -- this isn't even you or I guessing about this. This has been a stated goal of the Trump administration.

One of the great things about the Trump administration is Trump, whether he intends to or not. Is incredibly traps parent

He will tell you, what -- he will tell you the things he will do, even if they're couched, you know, in a different record. You can look through that record, and see what that candy is on the inside. And he told us about that candy. So he's been very clear, in addition to the commodities, and the -- the words, the elements, and all these things that are very plentiful in South America. We need to make sure that we have within our allies control so we can have access to.

You do not want China to have military relationships, and other very strong relationships. Within South America.

Because we know what that means long-term for the United States.

GLENN: How is Trump doing overall?

CAROL: So I think overall, I think he's doing quite well. I think from a foreign policy perspective, and I said this during the last administration. Think of him as a business guy. But from a foreign policy perspective, he's an absolutely just killing it. Crushing it. He's been doing a great job in terms of securing the borders. Obviously, we would like to see more deportations. But they're certainly trying and have some roadblocks. And I think from an economic standpoint, the fact that he has this long-term lens, even though some of the machinations I don't agree with, these are the important things. This is finally an administration who says, wait. Our military stockpile is at risk. Because we don't have the components and the supply chain to be able to make products.

We're dependent upon other products in other countries. And assuming they're going to sell us those products, so that we can be able to defend ourselves against them. That doesn't make any sense.

So finally, we have people who are addressing the long-term problems.

And I think the most important thing for a country right now subsidy that we have the runway.

Because we cannot, in three years. Or three and a half years, turn over the reins to another set of people, who want to undo all of this, who hate the United States. Who want to walk that back.

We need people like President Trump. Like the people he's developing. Who understand the long-term issues, that we face that have been built up over many years.

From this broken fiscal foundation. From both parties. But that's where we are today. And he is doing the hard work to try to fix that.

And it's not necessarily apparent to everyone who doesn't understand at this level. But it is so critical, for this very important reset that we're going to have.

GLENN: So I know that you're not a fan of tariffs. I'm not a fan of tariffs.

CAROL: Correct.

GLENN: However, the things that have been happening, the tariffs are not doing what everybody thought they would do.

Why is that?

CAROL: Well, I don't necessarily agree that they're not doing what people thought they would do.

I think that they're -- there has been a bit of overhype on how things are presented.

So do tariffs make it more expensive for businesses and consumers to buy certain goods and services? Yes.

And that has happened. And I've seen it with my own eyes. With my own company. In joy venture partners and small businesses across the country.

There are small businesses that have major burdens. These are the things we thought would happen. And they are happening. In terms of creating runaway inflation, I don't think anybody said that at the levels they are.

They said that when he kicked them up to 100 percent. Which he walked back.

GLENN: Right.

CAROL: But we also know when you look at inflation data. That the way that calculated. There's a lot of picking and choosing and substitutions. So, of course, when you say, oh, well, this particular product is being hit too much.

Some of it is substituted to this. Of course, it's not going to show up in the same way, as it affects people in their day-to-day lives. So, again, I think it's that nuanced understanding.

It's the same thing, you know, when people said, hey, why am I at the grocery store? And everything is 30 percent higher. And they're telling us that inflation under Biden is 4 percent. We know that has to do with the calculation.

So I think that tariffs are causing some issues. And some pain.

And hopefully, that can be sorted out in time.

But, you know, absent that particular strategy, I think other things that he's doing, on the American front, to shore up our security from an economic and national security standpoint, make a lot of sense.

STU: And, Carol, I think a lot of people lose sight. Just because it was such a big issue.

Look, trade is important.

But it's also not a huge part of our economy. Imported good news are about ten percent of our economy.

Does that number sound about right?

CAROL: You know, it's a small percent.

I would want to go back and verify the neighbor.

I have so many things rolling around in my head today. That's not top of mind.

But it's not a meaningful percent of our direct -- where does impact, there's a component, where it flows through the economy. And it affects domestic goods and services.

So even, if, you know, on a headline basis, it doesn't seem like it's that important, it can flow through the rest of the economy and create a drag and create some issues there.

STU: Yes.

GLENN: I want to take a break. And, Carol, I want to come back.

Carol Roth is the economist I trust. She's a former investment banker. And really has a clear eye, on not Wall Street. But on Main Street.

I want to talk to you about the shut down. We're about to see possible delays at our airport. Our air traffic controllers. SNAP is about to expire. What happens here. When his the average person begin to really feel the shutdown. And is there a -- is there a line where it just has gone too far.

GLENN: So, Carol, tell me where we are on the shutdown.

CAROL: Well, it's tough. And I think I've said to you before, Glenn. As somebody who would love to see many parts of the government be shut down permanently. There's part of me that goes, this is fantastic. And I hope it goes on forever.

GLENN: Me too.

CAROL: Obviously, there are people who -- you know, we want to make sure that we get paid. We want to make sure the military get paid. We want to make sure that air traffic controllers get paid. So there's a little bit of give and take. Probably the most surprising thing that has come to light is how many people are on food assistance in this country.

GLENN: Yes.

CAROL: When we have something that's supposed to be a safety net, it's almost in my mind, supposed to be like under the tightrope. The trampoline under the tightrope. You fall, and then it pushes you back up. And it's a temporary solution. I feel like we've turned that net into a hammock, where people are just taking a nap. And sleeping in it long-term. And, you know, that is something that even though devastating for the families who truly need to be on it. The fact that this is getting some light on it, I think, you know, that could be a small silver lining here. And I think that will put pressure on the Democratic base. The Democrats are holding out for a bunch of insanity, for illegals over trying to feed the people who are actually in their base. So I'm hoping that puts enough pressure for everybody else though. I think when this really starts to flow through the economy and becomes a drag on numbers and becomes a drag on the stock market, is where you're going to -- to see a little bit more --

GLENN: Any idea when that happens?

CAROL: It's hard to say. Because as we know right now, with the government shutdown. We're not even getting numbers.

GLENN: Right. Right. Right.

CAROL: But, you know, we cannot afford for GDP to contract. We cannot afford for the consumer, which is 70 percent of the economy.

To feel like they cannot spend. Because that flows through tax receipts. And if we have lower tax receipts. It will blow up the deficit. If we blow up the deficit, we can end up in a debt spiral. So that's the big issue here.

GLENN: Well, the food stamps. If you look the at the SNAP program through ethnicity. 45.6 percent of Afghans who have been imported here in America, are on food stamps. Forty-two percent of the Somali community. Thirty-four percent of the Iraqi community, and 23 percent of the Haitian community. That just can't happen!

That just can't happen.

CAROL: Yeah. You know, in terms of those numbers. I think there's a common sense approach that we need to take here. In terms of immigration.

Which I've raised the question with AI. You know, how much immigration do we actually need?

But to the extent that we do invite great people into our country, who share our values. We need to means test that, and you should not be allowed to come here and then be a dependent on the government.

That should be a position of coming to this country.

And I think that's something that seems like it would maybe a 20 or 90/10 issue. So, again, shining light on these things at the point of people who are actually willing to do the hard work and address this problem, is a net benefit.

Is a silver lining, even though the backdrop. You know, we don't want people who actually need this, to go without food.

But, you know, it brings into question, the system. You can get people beans. You can get people rice. You can get people staples. And have them be well-fed in a fraction of the cost, that it's currently costing. And keep out the dodos and the candies and the people who just arrived here to take advantage of the system.

GLENN: Yeah. Carol, thank you. As always, God bless.

CAROL: Always a pleasure.

GLENN: You bet. Buh-bye. Carol Roth. She is just -- I just love Carol. I looked for somebody like Carol for a long time, that understood Wall Street, understood the banking, and then also understood Main Street. CarolRoth.com.

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