President Biden has appeared to have some pretty severe mood swings in recent weeks. At times, he's slow and has to be led by the First Lady. At other times, he's foaming at the mouth over threats to "Democracy." Glenn and Stu discuss whether Biden is just acting or are these signs of something more concerning. They also discuss how disturbing it is that Biden bragged about sentencing January 6th "insurrectionists" to prison, even though none of them were charged with insurrection. And apparently, the government isn't stopping there ...
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GLENN: Oh, man. Is Stu not here yet! Is Stu not here! I miss Stu. Hi, Stu.
STU: Hi, Glenn. How is it going?
GLENN: Really bad, okay. At the same time, really good. The mood swings of Biden are terrifying.
People say, you know, Donald Trump, I mean, he could get out of control, and go for vengeance.
What the hell do you think is happening right now with Joe Biden? Did you see the speech he gave over January 6th?
STU: As much of it as I could take, and I did realize watching it, that the real tragedy January 6th for the Democrats is that in an election year, it fell on a Saturday. So that no one was paying attention, because this is their whole idea.
Their whole campaign was to talk about January 6th constantly. And everybody missed the big speech.
GLENN: Yeah. I know. I know. I know.
I mean, there was at least one person that I never heard of on MSNBC that was sobbing. He really had a hard time getting it together. Hey, Sara, do you have like, I don't know?
The Glenn theme or something -- something that's very, very stirring, that you can play. The MSNBC clip, where the -- the anchor is talking to a Capitol police officer.
GLENN: It's very powerful. Go ahead.
VOICE: It is --
GLENN: No. Stop. Not that feed. You know, America the beautiful, kind of thing.
STU: Oh. Oh.
GLENN: Yeah. Okay. Here we go.
VOICE: Mail-in ballot.
Former DC Metropolitan police officer, Courage for America council member, and author of Hold the Line, the insurrection. And, one cop's battle for America's soul.
Officer Fanone, I'm going to try to get through this.
STU: Oh, no.
VOICE: Thank you for what you did, three years ago today.
GLENN: You look at the cop who is looking at this guy like, what the hell is happening? I'm not here. I'm invisible. I'm invisible. I'm invisible.
Okay. Well, it was a very, very scary, scary time on January 6th. Well, especially Ashley Babette. But let's not talk about that.
Very scary went. And here's what the president said in his speech.
VOICE: Today, we gather in the new year. Some 246 years later. Just one day before January 6th.
A day forever seared this our memory, because it was on that day, that we nearly lost America. Lost it all.
Today, we're here to answer the most important of questions. Is democracy still America's sacred cause?
GLENN: No. The republic is. The republic is.
I mean, it's could you tell with that democracy thing, seeing you're president of the United States.
Then he goes on to celebrate, sending January 6ers into prison. Go ahead.
BIDEN: Since that day, more than 1,200 people have been charged with assault on the Capitol. There will be 900 of them.
GLENN: Okay. Stop. Stop. Stop.
Hold it just a second.
1,200 people have been convicted of assaulting the Capitol? No. Actually, it was trespassing. It was trespassing. So let's just keep that in mind. What they were actually charged with was trespassing.
Now, let's go to the second half of that.
VOICE: Collectively to date, they have been sentenced to more than 840 years in prison.
GLENN: That sounds like a democracy. Doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah. More prison time. More prison time.
VOICE: Instead of calling these criminals. He called these insurrectionists patriots.
GLENN: Okay. Stop. Stop.
No. In no court documents. In no court case, are they being convicted or tried for insurrection.
None of them.
None of them have been charged and convicted of insurrection.
So where are we getting all this insurrection stuff?
Where is that happening? If that's what they did, then fine. Charge them with that. And I think you could make a case for a few of the people that I saw. You can make that case. But for the video specialist majority of them. Parading shouldn't get you a couple of years in prison.
Trespassing. Then you have the attorney general, going out.
Or the US attorney, who is in charge of this case. Going out and basically saying, we are going to charge the people who are even outside of the Capitol.
VOICE: An important note when it comes to our prosecutions, when it comes to those who remained outside of the building. We have used our prosecutorial discretion to primarily focus on those who entered the building. Or those who engaged in violent or corrupt conduct on Capitol grounds.
But if a person knowingly entered the restricted area without authorization, they have already committed a federal crime.
Make no mistake, thousands of people occupied an area that they were not authorized to be present in, in the first place.
GLENN: Okay. So that's the fence that is outside of the Capitol. That was taken town by somebody who was clearly an operative of something. So when you went past that fence. Which was now laying in the dirt, and you couldn't see. And it seemed like it was okay to go by, you were committing trespassing.
You were outside. You weren't doing anything. But you were standing there. And so they will go after.
They're actually going after more people, as the -- as the polling on this, gets worse and worse and worse.
And as the evidence gets worse and worse and worse. For the prosecution.
When you start to see the tapes.
I don't know. Did you see what Lara Logan did on her show? Did you see this? Really, really credible work from Lara Logan on this. Did you see it, Pat, or, Stu
STU: I did not see anything from Lara Logan, no.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh. Lara is talking to -- she just released it Saturday. She's talking to this woman I've never heard of.
And she was beaten and clubbed. Billy clubbed by three cops. Police officers. From the Capitol Police.
In a hallway, of the Capitol.
And she's not doing anything.
She's trapped in the crowd.
And these thee police officers target her and beat her in the head.
One of the police officers takes a closed fist, and hits her repeatedly five times in the head.
Then she's thrown head first, into a stonewall. She doesn't even remember any of this, because the beating was so bad. Then they start beating her with billy clubs.
And stabbing her with billy clubs. She's not doing anything. It's a horror show. An absolute horror show.
STU: The whole thing is misleading too. Which is amazing. The two things they wanted to get done after the January 6 situation, was one call on January 6th. So there would be this anniversary every year. So they could come out and have these speeches. And have a September 11th annual event. Where they can talk about the tragedy that was going on. And secondarily, they wanted to use the word insurrection.
We talked about this. Immediately knowing, that they would use it to take Donald Trump off the ballot. And try to make him --
GLENN: Right. So very well planned and pushed.
It's like when people during COVID, immediately, all of them started saying, you know, it's like we needed a great reset.
Like, where did that come from? All of a sudden, everybody is calling for a Great Reset and a new normal? That's weird.
Where did that come from?
Same thing happened with insurrection. And that insurrection word is crucial to the Constitution. Crucial.
STU: It's why they're taking them off these ballots in these states.
And, Glenn, you mentioned, like, what does he say?
1200 people have been charged and arrested.
GLENN: Yes. Right.
STU: Because of insurrection and all this.
It's like, the actual stats are comical. Even when it comes to this.
They are have been 1240 people arrested. Now, there's 350 cases are still pending.
So we don't know how it will turn out.
GLENN: Jeez. Four years into it!
They have convicted, Glenn, 170 people of the 1240.
Two people have been acquitted, and the rest have pleaded guilty. Now, okay. So you have 710 people who have pleaded guilty.
Among those, only 210 have pleaded guilty to felony offenses.
So you have people -- about 450 of them.
Were sentenced to periods of incarceration. Ranging from a handful of days to more than 20 years. So when you look at it, more specifically here. You have, you know, as you pointed out, there are some people in this crowd, that were not really just in the crowd. Right?
They really did have ill intent. And there is some evidence that some of them did some really bad things. Generally speaking, a lot of these people are in the area. Maybe broke a rule. Broke a law. And maybe deserve a slap on the wrist to some of them. Generally speaking, you're talking about minor offenses, that they pleaded guilty to, without even a trial. And then also, went to a place where they're not even going to prison. These are such minor offenses, that they might be a fine or probation. Look, that doesn't mean it's nothing. I'm not saying it is.
We're not trying to downplay what happened on the day. But this idea that there was 1200 people that tried to overturn the government is so completely insane and overblown. That you lose all context of what actually happened on January 6th.
GLENN: Correct. Correct.
Examine let me just point out that who can't understand ma should be in jail for maybe a couple of years.
But Ray Epps. Let me give him a slap on the wrist.
Did we ever talk about that? When he was actually sentenced and got six months? Three months?
Ray Epps has -- they have him on video, doing all the things they accused others of doing. And then some. And people were like, what happened there?
That's clear what happened there. This is a guy who got to pay some time.
He's got to. They tried to brush him off, make him disappear. And it wouldn't go away. So we will try it. And we will give a gentle slap on the wrist. So you stop that narrative. And you protect him from another administration coming in and going, oh, we're still working on this.
Why don't we really look into Mr. Epps, and see what happened there.
This is a way to get him for double jeopardy. He can't be tried a second time, for what he did. So he only got six months.
This is -- it's sick. When we come back. I want to play the audio of -- of Joe Biden
Very -- very angry. In -- and it's a little terrifying. Quite honestly.
So here's the really great part in Joe Biden's speech where he gets, I don't know. Some might say, that it's a little angry.
BIDEN: We have to make our choice. I don't mind. And I believe I know Americans will defend the truth. Not give into the big lie.
Will embrace the Constitution and the declaration. Not abandon it. To honor the sacred cause of democracy. Not walk away from it.
GLENN: Jeez. Now, that wasn't the clip. Do we not have the clip, where he just looks -- I mean, he looks insane.
STU: Do you find his -- do you find the ups and downs of emotions when he's speaking to be real?
GLENN: Yes, I do.
STU: You do?
GLENN: You don't?
STU: I'm not sure. I feel a little torn on it. I feel at times, he's forcing it, because he's trying to be some sort of -- he's trying to capture the energy -- and -- and -- I don't know.
GLENN: Maybe. Maybe.
STU: He's trying to show emotion in that moment.
GLENN: I find it -- the clip I saw this weekend. Where he was just squinting and angry.
Was terrifying. Because I felt he -- maybe he is just acting. But it was unhinged.
And I don't know. That's what happens to people, with, you know, senility. They have wild mood swings. And get very, very angry.
And didn't like it. Didn't like it. Didn't like it at all.
Now, here he is, after the speech. He leaves the stage. Cut 20, please.
GLENN: Okay. All right. She -- Jill comes out and grabs his hand, because he's staring like a deer in headlights.
And she grabs his hand, and walks around the corner. She's just escorting him out.
As soon as they get around the corner, she drops his hand. But he dawdles off like he's a toddler.
STU: Is it possible he was walking away from the Coldplay song? Is that a possibility?
GLENN: No. That's a very good possibility.
Cut 21. Here he is at the helicopter.
He's looking at the helicopter. He's looking around like, where -- what do I -- are my toys. Am I going to -- am I going to -- is anybody in the helicopter?
I don't know. He's walking back now. Okay. Do you know where I'm supposed to go?
And then he -- he's walking around. And the officer is like, what? What are you looking for, sir? I was wondering if I left my shoe. Did I leave my shoe in the car? I don't know where -- pizza. Pizza. The secret word is pizza.
STU: I -- I for one, am stunned that they didn't tell them that the Secretary of Defense is in the hospital. I am shocked.
GLENN: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
I would be shocked if they told them. Because it would lead me to believe that he was actually running the country. The question is, did Barack Obama. Did they notify Barack Obama?
As long as they notified Barack Obama, then we're fine. We're fine. You know, it's not out of control.