RADIOJanuary 29, 2024

Will Congress ARREST anyone over DELETED Jan. 6 files?

House Republicans have discovered that just DAYS before Republicans took control of the House in 2023, the Democrat-run Select January 6th Committee deleted over a terabyte of data from its records. Rep. Barry Loudermilk, who leads the committee reviewing the previous committee’s investigation, joins Glenn to discuss what the Republicans are doing next. Many of the files, he explains, are still password protected. But he details what was in some of the unlocked files that had been deleted: “[These] were critical to the investigation.” But is anything going to come of this, Glenn asks? Will anyone be arrested or subpoenaed for what may be an illegal attempt to hide the facts from the American people?

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: We have representative Barry Loudermilk.

There's a story we have been trying to get to this week.

And we just kept putting it off. Putting it off.

And I was going to have it next hour. I was going to try to do it hour three, of the podcast. But I have Kari Lake on in half an hour. So stand by for that.

But Barry has been looking into the January 6th committee, and the deleted files that contain critical information. They deleted them before the G.O.P. was able to access them.

Now, they have recovered them. But we're looking for the password.

And the password is: Never.

Barry Loudermilk is with us now.

Congressman, how are you?

BARRY: Good, Glenn.

It's good to be with you again. Hey, we haven't tried the password never. It could work.

GLENN: Could do hate Trump.

Could do scam.

I mean, I could go all day on those.

Barry, what is the significance of these files?

BARRY: Well, that is what we don't know. All -- we know at this point, is they were recovered from what -- a series of hard drives, that were given to us. That were the hard drives of the computers on the select committee of January 6. At one point, in my communications with Benny Thompson who was the chairman of the select committee, regarding videos that he omitted that they must keep.

That were critical to the investigation. And these were the videos of the depositions, which even Liz Cheney, in her recent book says was so important that we videotaped. So the American people could see the truth.

But they decided not to preserve those. We were communicating with them about that, as well as documents that he sent to the White House, in DHS, instead of keeping them and giving them to us.

In his response to me, as to what happened to these documents. Why didn't he keep them.

He mentioned that they handed over four terabytes of digital data to us.

The problem is, we only had less than three terabytes of digital data. So when we found out, that these videotapes were missing, that we searched for those. They didn't exist. He admitted to not keeping those.

I don't know where those are. We're still trying to find those.

GLENN: You know, can somebody check?

I'm pretty sure the NSA has a really big storage cloud in Utah. Can we maybe knock on the door and say, hey, are you a lending library? Can we see some stuff?

BARRY: That is a possibility there. We've even gone to the House recording studio, who is when you normally do a deposition, and you have it recorded, video recorded. You just call the House studio. This is what they do. They bring the equipment. They record it.

And they keep it. And they make it available to you. And when they're ready to archive it, you get it from them. What the Select Committee did was different. Because when Bennie Thompson told us, he didn't keep any of these, we just went to the recording studio. And said, can you give us copies of them?

And they said, well, we didn't have any. Because they didn't allow us to have any.

In fact, they only borrowed our equipment.

They wouldn't even use our people to do the recording.

So that sounded to me like, wow. This was planned from the beginning.

So we hired. Trying to figure out where these one-plus terabytes of data were, we hired independent, outside computer forensics company, to take those hard drives. And do a low-level scan of them.

And as you would expect, a hard drive that someone uses. You will find some deleted files.

Now, you see files that were deleted early on in an investigation.

You know, it's doing work.

You delete duplicates.

You get rid of it.

What highlighted to us. Were files.

Particularly, some that were deleted.

That they recovered.

That were deleted literally just days or hours before the Republicans took control.

One of those documents that was not password encrypted for some reason.

It was found in the recycle bin.

Was related to the depositions that were sent to the White House.

So there's a deleted file, that was deleted on January -- or January 1st, 2 days before the Republicans took control.

Related to documents that we know that they had, that they sent away. And we didn't have access to.

There were also 117, I believe, the number of documents, that were password-protected and encrypted, that we had seen the file names. We can see what type of file it is. And those names don't match anything that we already have.

So they are unique documents, that I believe we haven't seen before. But we can't get into.

So how critical they are?

We don't know. I just want someone to give me the password.

GLENN: Don't we have people that do that?

I've seen it in movies and stuff. You put a little box over the password.

Like password is cake.

All right. So, anyway, that's my password, by the way.

I'm going to change it now.

We're talking to chairman Barry Loudermilk from Georgia.

The conservative Republican from Georgia.

Is any of this illegal?

I mean, aren't you supposed to preserve documents?

I know if this happened. And Congress wanted information, that was on my computer. And I just went whoops, I deleted it all.

I think my butt would be in a chair in front of you guys. And I would be in trouble.

Wouldn't I?

BARRY: You could be. Yes.

Because if you deleted it, at a point, when you knew that Congress was looking for it.

Or you know the courts were looking for it.

Yes. You're free to delete anything you want today.

Once you know --

GLENN: And they did know.

BARRY: And they did know. We sent them letters of preservation.

The clerk's office has rules regarding what should be preserved. And video depositions are a part of that.

GLENN: So why is nothing happening.

BARRY: Well, we -- we got to know exactly the extent of where things are.

And my number one priority is getting the document, so we can -- you know, not only the passwords for these documents.

But getting the documents from the White House, and Homeland Security, that they have.

And so we are -- for lack of a better term, working with the White House right now.

The four depositions, they have, that are -- these are House documents. They are not executive branch. These are documents owned by the House of Representatives.

They are White House employees who testified before the committee. And the chairman sent those to the White House.

We had requested them. They didn't respond. Requested them again. They responded and said, okay. We'll send them to you once we redact them. So we sent them four documents, so heavily recontacted. It was literally pages of --

GLENN: Look, Barry. What do you think of this. Let me just offer.

I can get on the air now. I can probably find somebody that goes by the name of like, you know, one eye. And he can have that thing, hacked open, you know, pretty quickly.

And we would do it in the Capitol. You know, under supervision and stuff.

But I think we can get that done.

I cannot believe with the power and the might of the United States of America, we can't open up those files.

Hmm.

BARRY: We're going to be looking at. We've contacted some different terms, if you will. That have technology, to try to get into -- some of them say, with the new encryption standards.

They may not be able to. But we're looking at doing that.

In the meantime, we're just trying to find somebody that has the passwords.

I asked Benny Thompson for them. Just a simple letter. Saying, we found those documents.

Not making an accusation there.

We just -- they're encrypted. Don't know why you encrypted them.

We need the password.

He responded with a three-page letter. I think he used ultra MAGA in it. A year or ten times.

Making all kinds of accusations. I have no idea what you're talking about.

GLENN: Yeah. Seems like obstruction.

BARRY: Which could be the case. It could be that he doesn't bank what the committee did for two years.

Sometimes, he knows what those password are.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

Talking to Representative Barry Loudermilk about January 6. There's one other thing I want to hit quickly.

This whole pipe bomb story is falling apart quickly. I mean, all of the January 6th narrative. Is falling apart. Any update on the pipe bomb thing. I mean, this week, we -- we saw the video of an undercover Capitol Police man, who is supposedly, just a passerby at the beginning. Now we find out, it's Capitol Police. He spots it. Then goes over to the Secret Service.

They finish their sandwiches. Let kids walk by it.

Before they get out of their car. And -- and, you know, then send the robot out to disarm it. What the hell is going on with this?

BARRY: That's a good question. We've been working with Representative Thomas Massie in Kentucky. This is something he wanted to take on, as a member of the Judiciary Committee and the Weaponization Committee.

So we've been working closely with him, pulling video records. Doing some investigative work ourselves.

And, you know, we released in the last -- couple of weeks. It was an undercover Capitol Police officer.

Even before we knew that. We had video of the person, who placed the pipe bomb.

You can watch him place it. The night before, and it was obvious, that he was putting it in a place, to be found.

GLENN: Yes.

BARRY: The Secret Service has the vice president elect, Kamala Harris, at that building. They were there, sitting literally feet away from this pipe bomb, and never saw it. I mean, they're supposed to be doing sweeps of the building, before you bring somebody there. And that pipe bomb had sat there from the night before.

GLENN: If you look at the pipe bomb.

If you look at the pipe bomb. It was like designed we mega mind. I mean, it's so clear.

It's got the kitchen timer on it. It is so clear, that it was meant to be found, and that it's a pipe bomb, that my dog would have sniffed it out.

How did they miss it?

Except, they did find it. Twenty minutes before the vote was supposed to go down on Capitol Hill. Wow! And that's where the timer was stopped. It stopped at 20 minutes.

Before the hour, or whatever.

Wow, what a coincidence that is!

And why is it that Kamala Harris, we didn't even know where she was? And anything about this, for a year.

And how is it that this is the greatest scandal and the darkest day in American history, and yet, the people that would gain the most, from saying, there were two pipe bombs. They planned on blowing up buildings.

Haven't said a word about it.

Why?

BARRY: And the FBI pulls resources from the investigation, and moves them over to helping prosecute the people that were there on January 6th.

It seems to me, a lone pipe bomber would be more dangerous, that's still out there. Than people who have already, you know -- even if they did something wrong, which there were people that did.

GLENN: Yes, I agree.

BARRY: But there are other people, that they're spending an awful lot of resources, what should be misdemeanor charges. That you'll pull resources from investigating a pipe bomb, to go after these folks.

Then there's the issue of the gallows. You know, the infamous gallows, that Biden is using in his campaign right now.

GLENN: Yeah.

And they were -- they were built the night before, in front of the police!

BARRY: 6 o'clock in the morning.

Why didn't someone tear that down?

I mean, with all the security, with all the police, with US park police.

The FBI, Metropolitan Police, the US Capitol Police, in droves. All around that area. That morning.

GLENN: And we have it all on tape.

Yeah. And we have it all on tape. And we can't find the guys that built it, can we?

BARRY: Well, the FBI sure hasn't.

GLENN: Yeah, that's weird.

BARRY: Independent investigative reporter, that's doing tremendous work.

Much like Steve Baker has been doing this. Has been working on this, and he has more leads than the FBI did.

GLENN: Yeah, that's weird.

BARRY: Let me tell you, Steve has done a tremendous job.

We've spent a lot of time with him. Of course, he's been in our office, looking at videos.

He's doing a great service to the American people, by exposing some in-depth corruption. Our prayers are with him, and our support is with him as well.

GLENN: Thank you. I will say, everybody at the Blaze. And I ask the audience to do the same.

Pray for him. Because we're expecting him to be arrested any day, and we don't even know the charges. And they won't tell him the charges. And all he did was investigate.

He was there just as a reporter, investigating.

And now that he's exposing things, all of a sudden, oh, they -- they're going to file charges.

So any day. Thank you so much for your help on that and everything else. I appreciate it. God bless.

BARRY: Well, the American people deserve to know the truth.

GLENN: They sure do. Congressman Barry Loudermilk from the great state of Georgia.

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INSIDE Trump’s soul: How a bullet changed his heart forever

“I have a new purpose,” then-candidate Donald Trump told reporter Salena Zito after surviving the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. Salena joins Glenn Beck to reveal what Trump told her about God, his purpose in life, and why he really said, “Fight! Fight! Fight!”, as she details in her new book, “Butler: The Untold Story of the Near Assassination of Donald Trump and the Fight for America's Heartland”.

Transcript

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GLENN: Salena, congratulations on your book. It is so good.

Just started reading it. Or listening to it, last night.

And I wish you would have -- I wish you would have read it. But, you know, the lady you have reading it is really good.

I just enjoy the way you tell stories.

The writing of this is the best explanation on who Trump supporters are. That I think I've ever read, from anybody.

It's really good.

And the description of your experience there at the edge of the stage with Donald Trump is pretty remarkable as well. Welcome to the program.

SALENA: Thank you, Glenn. Thank you so much for having me.

You know, I was thinking about this, as I was ready to come on. You and I have been along for this ride forever. For what?

Since 2006? 2005?

Like 20 years, right?

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

SALENA: And I've been chronicling the American people for probably ten more years, before that. And it's really remarkable to me, as watching how this coalition has grown. Right?

And watching how people have the -- have become more aspirational.

And that's -- and that is what the conservative populist coalition is, right?

It is the aspirations of many, but the celebration of the individual.

And chronicling them, yeah. Has been -- has been, a great honor.

GLENN: You know, I was thinking about this yesterday, when -- when Elon Musk said he was starting another party.

And somebody asked me, well, isn't he doing what the Tea Party tried to do?

No. The Tea Party was not going to start a new party.

It was to -- you know, it was to coerce and convince the Republican Party to do the right thing. And it worked in many ways. It didn't accomplish what we hoped.

But it did accomplish a lot of things.

Donald Trump is a result of the Tea Party.

I truly believe that. And a lot of the people that were -- right?

Were with Donald Trump, are the people that were with the Tea Party.

SALENA: That's absolutely right.

So that was the inception.

So American politics has always had movements, that have been just outside of a party. Or within a party.

That galvanize and broaden the coalition. Right? They don't take away. Or walk away, and become another party.

If anything, if there is a third party out there, it's almost a Republican Party.

Because it has changed in so many viable and meaningful ways. And the Tea Party didn't go away. It strengthened and broadened the Republican Party. Because these weren't just Republicans that became part of this party.

It was independents. It was Democrats.

And just unhappy with the establishment Republicans. And unhappy with Democrats.

And that -- that movement is what we -- what I see today.

What I see every day. What I saw that day, in butler, when I showed I happen at that rally.

As I do, so many rallies, you know, throughout my career. And that one was riveting and changed everything.

GLENN: You made a great case in the opening chapter. You talk about how things were going for Donald Trump.

And how this moment really did change everything for Donald Trump.

Changed the trajectory, changed the mood.

I mean, Elon Musk was not on the Trump train, until this.

SALENA: Yeah.

GLENN: Moment. What do I -- what changed? How -- how did that work?

And -- and I contend, that we would have much more profound change, had the media actually done their job and reported this the way it really was. Pragmatism

SALENA: You know, and people will find this in the book. I'm laying on the ground with an agent on top of me.

I'm 4 feet away from the president.

And there's -- there's notices coming up on my phone. Saying, he was hit by broken glass.

And to this take, that remains part of this sibling culture, in American politics.

Because reporters were -- were so anxious to -- to right what they believed happened.

As opposed to what happened.

And it's been a continual frustration of mine, as a reporter, who is on the ground, all the time.

And I'll tell you, what changed in that moment.

And I say a nuance, and I believe nuance is dead in American journalism.

But it was a nuance and it was a powerful conversation, that I had with President Trump, the next day. He called me the next morning.

But it's a powerful conversation I had with him, just two weeks ago.

When he made this decision to say, fight, fight, fight.

People have put in their heads, why they think he said it. But he told me why he said that. And he said, Salena, in that moment, I was not Donald Trump the man. I was a former president. I was quite possibly going to be president again.

And I had an obligation to the country, and to the office that I have served in, to project strength. To project resolve.

To project that we will not be defeated.

And it's sort of like a symbolic eagle, that is always -- you know, that symbol that we look at, when we think about our country.

He said, that's why I said that. I didn't want the people behind me panicking. I didn't want the people watching, panicking.

I had to show strength. And it's that nuance -- that I think people really picked up on.

And galvanized people.

GLENN: So he told me, when he was laying down on the stage.

And you can hear him. Let me get up. Let me get up.

I've got to get up.

He told me, as I was laying on the stage. I asked him, what were you thinking? What was going through your head? Now, Salena, I don't know about you.

But with me. It would be like, how do I get off the stage? My first was survival.

He said, what was going on through his mind was, you're not pathetic. This is pathetic.

You're not afraid. Get up.

Get up.

And so is that what informed his fight, fight, fight, of that by the time that he's standing up, he's thinking, I'm a symbol? Or do you think he was thinking, I'm a symbol, this looks pathetic. It makes you look weak.

Stand up. How do you think that actually happened?

SALENA: He thinks, and we just talked about this weeks ago. He -- you know, and this is something that he's really thought about.

Right? You know, he's gone over and over and over. And also, purpose and God. Right? These are things that have lingered with him.

You know, he -- he thought, yes.

He did think, it was pathetic that he was on the ground. But he wasn't thinking about, I'm Donald Trump. It's pathetic.

He's thinking, my country is symbolically on the ground. I need to get up, and I need to show that my country is strong.

That our country is resolute.

And I need people to see that.

We can't go on looking like pathetic.

Right?

And I think that then goes to that image of Biden.

GLENN: You have been with so many presidents.

How many presidents do you think that you've personally been with, would have thought that and reacted that way?

SALENA: Probably only Reagan. Reagan would have. Reagan probably would have thought that.

And if you remember how he was out like standing outside.

You know, waving out the window. Right?

After he was shot.

GLENN: At the hospital, right.

SALENA: Had he not been knocked out, unconscious, you know, he probably would have done the same thing.

Because he was someone who deeply believed in American exceptionalism.

And American exceptionalism does not go lay on the ground.

GLENN: And the symbol.

Right. The symbol of the presidency.

SALENA: Yeah. Absolutely. And I think that affects him today.

GLENN: So let me go back to God.

Because you talked to him the next day. And your book Butler.

He calls you up.

I love the fact that your parents would be ashamed of you. On what you said to him.

The language you used. That you just have to read the book.

It's just a great part.

But he calls you the next morning. And wants to know if you're okay.

And you -- you then start talking to him, about God.

And I was -- I was thinking about this, as I was listening to it. You know, Lincoln said, I wasn't -- I wasn't a Christian.

Even though, he was.

I wasn't a Christian, when I was elected. I wasn't a Christian when my son died.

I became a Christian at Gettysburg.

Is -- is -- I mean, I believe Donald Trump always believes in God, et cetera, et cetera.

Do you think there was a real profound change at Butler with him?

SALENA: Absolutely. You know, he called me seven times that day. Seven times, the take after seven.

GLENN: Crazy.

SALENA: Talked about. And I think he was looking for someone that he knew, that was there. And to try to sort it out.

Right? And I let him do most of the talking. I didn't pressure him.

At all. I believed that he was having -- you know, he was struggling. And he needed to just talk. And I believed my purpose was to listen.

Right? I know other reporters would have handled it differently. And that's okay. That's not the kind of reporter that I am.

And I myself was having my own like, why didn't I die?

Right?

Because it went right over my head.

And -- and so I -- he had the conversation about God.

He's funny. I thought it was the biggest mosquito in the world that hit me.

But he had talked profoundly about purpose. You know, and God.

And how God was in that moment.

It --

GLENN: I love the way you -- in the book, I love the way you said that as he's kind of working it out in his own he head.

He was like, you know, I -- I -- I always knew that there was some sort of, you know -- that God was present.

He said, but now that this has happened.

I look back at all of the trials.

All of the tribulations. Literally, the trials.

All of the things that have happened. And he's like, I realized God was there the whole time.

SALENA: Yes. He does. And it's fascinating to have been that witness to history, to have those conversations with him. Because I'm telling you. And y'all know, I can talk. I didn't say much of anything.

I just -- I just listened. I felt that was my purpose, in that moment.

To give him that space, to work it out.

I'm someone that is, you know, believes in God.

I'm Catholic. I followed my faith.

And -- and so, I thought, well, this is why God put me here. Right?

And to -- to have that -- to hear him talk about purpose, to hear him say, Salena. Why did I put a chart down?

I'm like, sir. I don't know. I thought you were Ross Perot for a second.

He never has a chart. And he laughed. And then he said, why did I put that chart down?

By that term, I never turned my head away from people at the rally. That's true.

That relationship is very transactional. It's very -- they feed off of each other.

It's a very emotive moment when you attend a rally. Because he has a way of talking at a rally. That you believe that you are seeing.

And he said, and I never turn my head away.

I never turn my head away.

Why did I turn my head away?

I don't remember consciously thinking about turning my head away. And then he says to me, that was God, wasn't it?

Yes, sir. It was. It was God.

And he said, that's -- that's why I have a new purpose.

And so, Glenn. I think it's important, when you look at the breadth of what has happened, since he was sworn in.

You see that purpose, every day.

He doesn't let up.

He continues going.

And it brings back to the beginning of the book.

Where you find out, that there was another president that was shot at in Butler.

And that was George Washington. And how different the country would have been, had he died in that moment.

And now think about how different the country would be, had President Trump died in that moment. There would be --

GLENN: We're talking to -- we're talking to Salena Zito. About her new book called Butler. The assassination attempt on President Trump. And it is riveting.

And, you know, it is so good. I wish the press would read it. Because it really explains who we are, who Trump supporters are. Who are, you know, red staters. It is so good at that. She's the best at that.