Dave Rubin has been working with liberals for years now…and some of them DO now recognize the far-left’s woke INSANITY. But recognition of the ‘obvious stuff’ may not be enough, the BlazeTV host tells Glenn: ‘At some point, the rubber meets the road and you need to make a decision…you have to make a choice.’ In this clip, Rubin encourages truth-seeking, freedom-loving Americans to ‘blaze a NEW trail,’ he explains. Because the far-left won’t stop until their dystopian nightmare comes true. So, it’s time to take ACTION and build new institutions that allow us to survive — and THRIVE — without far-left ideologues forcing our every move…

Rubin's new book — 'Don't Burn This Country' — explains all of this, plus more. It's available TODAY.

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GLENN: Mr. Dave Rubin. How are you, sir?

DAVE: Glenn, I'm doing well. Although, I got to tell you, you're giving me inflation neighbors. I'm trying to move a book today. I need good inflation numbers. I have product to get out of the warehouse.

GLENN: You are going to do really well. You just have to charge $85 per book. Dave does have a new book out. It's called don't burn this country.

And, you know, in it, you say something interesting, that this is kind of -- this is your last chance to try to save liberals.

DAVE: Oh, yeah. This is it, man. I mean, you know my evolution well. And your audience is pretty familiar with it. And I've tried for the last say 7 years to really wake up the remaining liberals, and go, you know, do the obvious stuff first. The obvious stuff is, okay. The left has gone bananas. The woke stuff. And two plus two is five. And boys are girls. And non-racism is racism, all the stuff that you've been talking about. Enough of the liberals get that. But at some point, the rubber meets the road. At some point, you have to make a choice. You have to see that fork in the road and say, okay. I'm going to to have separate from some of my old ideas. Some of the old political leaders and political leaders I followed and blaze a new trail. I think that's what I've tried to do with my life. And really, this book is saying, hey, look, we're past the point of talking. We're past the point of just explaining that there's something wrong with the left.

But now we really have to build new things. We have to separate, in essence, from these people. Build parallel economies. Build new educational institutions. Build new networks.

Everything -- literally everything. And, I mean, literally literally. Literally everything that we have, we have to either rebuild or separate from these guys. Because they're not going to stop. You know, all that we've warned. For all the work that all of us have done. They're still not stopping. Sure, we're waking up people, but the march is on. So it's time to -- it's time to blaze a new trail.

GLENN: Okay. So what does that mean exactly?

DAVE: Well, it means a lot of things. I mean, first off, you really have to think of your life in a different way. I tell a story about an intern that I had about two years ago, who was a great kid. He was really crushing it. And I said to him, he was going to school, and helping us part-time.

And I pay all my interns, by the way. And I said to him, hey, listen, forget about school. You're killing it here. Let me hire you full-time. We pay all your benefits. Join us, and you've got a bright future ahead of you. We'll take good care of you. I know you'll make the show better. I know it will for me too. And he said, you know, Dave, I think I want to stick with college. I get it, I'm flattered.

Flash forward, a year later, where now I live in Florida as you know. I was living in Cali at the time.

He called me about three months ago, called me about three months ago. He said, Dave, I've had enough. Glenn, I don't like the Zoom schools. Nobody is learning anything here. We're being indoctrinated. My teachers are all activists. Does that offer still stand? And now he has a full-time job. He just moved to Florida. And he's flourishing. And I used that as an example.

Meaning, you don't have to go to $150,000 in debt, when you're 21 years old to get a marginal job that you most likely you didn't learn anything to get the job in the first place. That's one example. I think we have to figure out ways to get off the big tech rails. It's why TheBlaze is thriving. You years ago, saw the path of, oh, I can't be so reliant on the big boys. I have to build my own thing.

It's why I started Locals. There's all sorts of things. You know, you need to know how to do a few things. I think one of the real crises we're having right now is that the millennials don't know how to do anything. They don't know how to change a tire. They don't know how to raise a chicken. Or start a garden. Basic things. This stuff started simple. But we've become so reliant on these big systems. (?) and that if you just don't ask any questions. And if you're nice to the machine. They're nice back to you. After 15 days to slow the spread, I think they realized, they're never going to stop. They're coming. And until they realized (?) they will just keep moving on everything.

GLENN: Yeah. You talk about the difference between self-care and being self-reliant. And I can't tell you how important that is right now. All of us, need to learn certain things. If our kids don't know how to read a map, you better teach them how to read a map and have maps that they can read. Also in the book, you write, how to spot fake news. Can you take us through that?

DAVE: Yeah. There are many types of fake news. And we think of fake news as (?) another type of fake news we think about is when the headline has almost nothing to do with the story. Those are sort of the two big ones that are somewhat obvious. There are others (?) one of them, the best example, because it's relative to what's going on right now. This Hunter Biden laptop story. Which, right before the election, was not allowed to be on Twitter. Even the New York Post was a totally reputable (?), but you could not tweet about it. Not only could you not tweet about it. Glenn, as you know, you could not send the link to the story, in your private messages on Twitter. That means -- that means they were monitoring people's private messages, the private messages of even journalists. The, quote, unquote, journalists that were sending stories to each other. The type of fake news was the type of things that they won't let you see. And I'm far more interested to see about that, than the fake stuff. We've all done pretty good (?) very fine people on both sides. The Russian collusion hoax. (?) the coming kids are a racist. Everyone gets that. The internet has allowed us to some degree, to expose that. The bigger issue is the stuff that we can't quite see. We can't quite make sense of. You know, 51 former intelligence officials tell us that Hunter Biden laptop story is fake. And now the New York Times is even telling us that's real. (?)

GLENN: Not only that. But the fake news continues. They say, that's real. However, the president is not implicated in this at all, so they just moved the bar. And they still say kind of the same thing.

DAVE: Well, that's the extraordinary part. That's one way the machine. This is it is reason why I say these big systems. They're always playing a little bit of catchup. First, the story was completely a hoax. Then it was maybe it was true. But then it doesn't implicate Hunter in any way. Now (?) and I suspect, Glenn. That as more and more leaks from this thing. And we figure out, how Hunter got these jobs, that he was qualified for. I'm not a rocket scientist, or a biologist. Do you think it maybe had something to do with the fact that his tad had something to do with the presidency of the United States. May a crazy conspiracy theorist?

GLENN: Of course, you are. Of course, you are. Let me quote the book. And you expand. The collectivist left wants to strip you of the intrinsic (?), in fact, you'll get paid for it. You can watch porn and play video games all day. And when doing so. You're actually helping people. Attachment, yeah. What a twisted thing they put on all of us over the past couple of years. They got (?) and restaurants. We all know someone in our own life, whether it was us personally. Or a neighbor or a friend or cousin. Who had a business close. Someone who lost their jobs. The mom and pop (?) 70 percent of mom-and-pop stores closed during covid. For some reason, the Target. The big box (?) that was selling virtually the same stuff. They had to close.

These ridiculous, arbitrary rules. And then, of course, the way I relate it too collectivism. At the same time, they tell us, we must stay home. And you will kill grandma. And ordering food. Well, first of all, you're creating a class war. (?) these other people that have to wear masks to deliver your food. A huge class war problem there. But also then, the utter hypocrisy, that they threw in our face, when it was Black Lives Matter rallies. Suddenly Eric Garcetti. (?) or Lori light foot in Chicago. She had her kids in masks. They still may have some degree of kids in masks in Chicago. But for Black Lives Matter, she could be out there without a mask. Glenn, even the last couple of days. The ridiculous press conference, the chronic liar, Jen Psaki gave the other day. Where she was asked about Kamala Harris wearing masks indoors. And she said, well, she took it after this. Relating to Ketanji Brown Jackson. This was a historic moment. They lie about everything. While they take your rights and dignity away. And they throw it in your face. And we just have to say, enough is enough.

GLENN: You moved to California. Which is interesting to me. Because you talk about inclusiveness. And you talk about the importantness of being a good neighbor. Can you be a good neighbor in the wrong place?

DAVE: Oh, it was tough of it. It was really tough. I moved (?) I became professionally successful. Force my life was enriched in many, many ways. (?), but these last couple of years. And it really did start before covid. But then covid put it on steroids. You know, the societal breakdown. Because the individual is not separated from your politics. And vice-versa. Meaning, if you're watching the news every day, and you're completely fearful of everything and you're wearing masks all day and everything, you will be (?) beautiful 80 degrees every single day. Not a cloud in the sky. I would be walking my dog, with no mask on. Outdoors. And neighbors, I kid you not, would be running the other way. The degree that everybody would go to the supermarkets. And no one would look at each other. You have a mask on. (?) what do we think this will do to a generation of people? I have to tell you, going from California to (?) I've been here about three months. I feel like I'm in a completely different country. And I don't mean that to be. I'm not exaggerating when I say that. I generally feel like, I'm living in a place, where I'm in a completely different outlook on life. I go to the store. I'm smiling. (?) businesses are thriving. And as I said, it's not disconnected from politics. We have a governor here, who said, hey. I don't know everything going on with covid. But we will make decisions for themselves. And, by the way, occasionally, you see people in masks here. And that's their choice. That's fine. But the government does not dictate that everybody live under the boot. It's a much more refreshing way to live. It's like a weight lifted off my chest.

GLENN: I know. I know. (?) which you can find online or Blaze TV. He's got a new book out now, called don't burn this country. Surviving and thriving in our woke dystopia.

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Dave Rubin in's new book. I love this. (?) in a time of madness, don't even burn this country. It will give you the tools you need to think for yourself. I want you to walk into the bar and order a full-bodied opinion. I want you to get absolutely wasted on facts until 3:00 a.m. And then when you're just about to pass out, I want you to get another glass of reality and chug it.

I love that.

DAVE: Glenn, I know you don't drink anymore. But there's something there. There's something there.

GLENN: I love it. (?) Plato's cafe is.

DAVE: The basic idea of mate zero's cafe. And the reason why I use it as an example in this book. In the cafe. If you live in this cafe (?) when he originally wrote it. If you live in this cafe. Your perception. And you only live in a cafe. In the media vicinity of you. Your perception of reality will be extremely different than what actual reality is. And somehow, through social media. Through lockdowns. Through closing businesses. Social distancing. Eliminating the ways humans have communicated. 234 some ways, we're all (?) those of us trying to have difficult conversations. That are trying to build some bridges, instead of burning everything down. I think the challenge for us, is to get out of our cave. Glenn, guys like us. (?) to our audiences. And hopefully, they can incorporate some of that in our lives. And that's real. It's on everyone to do that, to whatever degree you can. Especially when you add in the big tech (?) where we don't have news is being catered to us. And what they're sending us. The feeds. What they're doing to our dopamine related to likes and clicks and all these things. In essence, we're all being pushed (?) our preconceived notions are the things that will matter. And we have to really step out of that cave. By the way, when I wrote this (?)

GLENN: Right. And you say, imagine a Civil War breaks out. Two groups. One who wants to conserve. One who wants to destroy.

DAVE: Looks. This is not a line that I want to (?) of a movement. Sort of separation between the red and blue states. And the problem is that, look, we're called the United States of America. We're supposed to be individual states. This is what the Federalist system is about, of course. And then we're supposed to be united in some form of commonality. Unfortunately, because the Democrat Party has gone so far off the deep end and taken the (?) in effect, you live in different countries. We have to figure out how to ash tries this situation. My suspicion is that the red states will continue to flourish. And with the blue states will continue to crumble. Now, the problem with that inherently, the red states will say, hey. We're doing it right. We're out of here. But the blue states will say, no. We want more of your tax money. (?) I think the red states, generally speaking, I'm not talking about like a true secession movement or something like that. But an ideological, hey, here's where I live, and this is what I care about. (?) more and more. But the irony, of course, is in many ways, this is (?) not supposed to have nearly as much power as it does.

GLENN: Dave, I'm so glad you're on our side.

DAVE: Glenn (?) I know you're not going to tooth your own horn. We're burning (?) on any category. Because you're still killing it, man. You're crushing it all over the place. The book has been out for two months.

GLENN: I appreciate. The name of the book is don't burn this country.

Make sure you grab it now, wherever books are sold. Dave is a remarkable guy. Started seven years ago. Questioning his own beliefs. And he is -- I think next year, he might get to a point to where, Genghis Khan, did not go far enough. I mean, he's really becoming a conservative warrior. Dave Rubin in,you can find his show at Blaze TV.