RADIONovember 18, 2022

Did the US just get closer to the Russia, Ukraine war?

The world held its breathe this week when a stray missile crossed into Poland — a NATO country. Ukraine’s President Zelenskyy insisted the missile came from Russia, but other reports claim the opposite. Either way, with a NATO country now directly effected, did the U.S. become close to entering the war? Rep. Chris Stewart (R-UT), joins Glenn to explain if America was ever close to joining the danger. Plus, Rep. Stewart explains why it wouldn’t make any sense for Vladimir Putin to involve NATO forces right now.

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GLENN: Chris Stewart is a multiple New York Times best-selling author. He is one of the best writers out there. He's a national award-winning author. Also, world record setting Air Force pilot, and the former owner and CEO of a small business. And he is a friend of mine. He is the congressman from Utah's second congressional district. Chris Stewart, welcome to the program.

CHRIS: Hey, Glenn. Nice to see you say, I was a friend of yours. That's great. Thank you.

GLENN: I know. And I expect that check to clear.

Now, listen, here's the thing I want you to talk about. Because you were on the intelligence and the permanent select committee, and you have military background. What the heck happened this week? How close were we to a war with Russia?

CHRIS: Okay. So like often when we speak, Glenn, I have to be careful what I say to you. And I want to speak you know in the realm of information that is publicly available. And there's more than that. It just passes the common sense test. Anyone with average intelligence would be able to conclude, and that is it was very, very dicey in the last ten days or so.

Because one of the most intricate, complicated, and dangerous maneuvers any military force can endeavor to do is an orderly withdrawal.

It's inherently dangerous in the sense, you're weakening your forces as you're trying to hold territory, while the others lead, the -- the area of operations. The fact that you have the river there, which obviously complicates that.

And Vladimir Putin has I think, we conclude there's -- you know there are certain thresholds, that he will not allow to have happen.

One of them is any essential Russian strategic defeat -- one of the results will protect his forces from the humiliating defeat that would alter the outcome of the war, and that's what we were facing this week.

And the good news, ironically, the good news is Russia actually had a very well executed withdrawal, that did not endanger massive numbers to our forces. So Vladimir Putin wasn't faced with that choice.

But it was very, very content, and a moment of uncertainty there, that I think we had our eyes -- our eyes were on it, very carefully.

GLENN: I will tell you, that when I saw the news. Someone came into a studio. I was in between shows. Somebody walked in and said, a missile just landed in Poland. And I said, oh, my gosh.

And we hoped that it was a mistake. And it was a mistake on Ukrainian's side. But Zelinsky is still saying, we don't have the proof that it was us. I mean, is that even possible that he doesn't know?

CHRIS: No. He often says things he has to say, in order to achieve his goals. And you go back to even before the war, he continued to deny, this was ever going to happen. Despite the clear evidence, that it wasn't just possible, it was inevitable. And he had to do that to keep on a brave face for his people. Et cetera. And one of the things we're seeing now, him saying to his people, and his military. You know, we're going to keep going. We're going to defeat every Russian. We're going to chase him out of every region, and Dinesh, Eastern regions of Ukraine, and maybe even Crimea.

So he will say things to rally his people. And rally his military forces. And I think this is an example of that.

Going back to where I started, you apply a common sense test. Becoming increasingly difficult, as we know in the world around us. Because we see that things make no sense at all, and it turns out to be true.

But Vladimir Putin does not want to go to war with NATO right now. I mean, he's in the middle of a catastrophe anyway. And to bring NATO into a war, especially on the western front, around could he have. It would just take a catastrophe, and times it by 100 for him. And not just militarily, but the perception of the world.

So one of the first things you ask yourself. It doesn't make sense. Why would Vladimir Putin do that? And it turns out, he didn't. It turns out, it was almost certainly a Ukrainian missile. And it took us very little time to determine, that it was fired by Ukrainians. It was likely a Russian missile. But it was one provided previous to the war.

And so that's why I think there were some confusion. Again, it just didn't make sense. It turned out not to be true. That Vladimir Putin was actually attacking a NATO country.

GLENN: What do you think of Milley this week saying, we're just going to keep giving them the money?

CHRIS: I don't think Milley is a member of Congress. So Milley doesn't make that decision, does he?

GLENN: Do you think there will be enough of you that will fight for an actual budget and appropriations?

CHRIS: Depends on what you mean by as number of us, as sufficient enough to stop it, I don't know yet. But there's a growing number of us, including those of us with military backgrounds. Those of us who sit on the intelligence in the Armed Services Committee, who will lead on these issues, who have increasing concerns about this.

And I think, Glenn, you and I talked about, an editorial I talked about several months ago. Or several weeks ago. That said, look, have we learned nothing from Iraq or Afghanistan. And if we have learned some of those lessons, we need to apply them here. And the very first thing we need to know, are our goals and Zelinsky's aligned? Because if he says, and he actually means, we're going to continue and press this all the way into Crimea. The United States simply cannot support that goal, without finding ourselves at war with Russia. And offensive operations in Crimea. Vladimir Putin would do that no differently than if we were to attack Moscow.

And Zelinsky certainly knows that. And so we have to first clarify this question.

What are our goals in Ukraine? And if we can agree on those goals, then we will support the effort.

Then second thing, you mentioned, Glenn, where is this money going?

Do we know these weapons are going where they're supposed to be going? By the way, are we funding nonessential military operations, like Ukrainian. The retirement accounts for Ukrainian officials.

I mean, that has simply got to stop as well. We have to identify where this money, and how this money is being spent.

GLENN: Let me switch topics.

The Republicans have laid out the Biden investigation. They were very clear. This is not about Hunter Biden. This is about Joe Biden.

The evidence seems to be overwhelming. You can't -- you can impeach. But you won't -- you won't get the Congress to you know vote for impeachment in the Senate.

And convict him of that. Most likely.

What is -- what do you think is happening here? How is this going to be perceived?

For the first time, Brock, what's his name? David Brock is leaving Media Matters, and he's going into a new Shell company that is going to be coordinating the pushback on the Republicans.

They are -- they are marshaling their forces like crazy. Like only Democrats do. What do you think is coming?

CHRIS: Well, they're marshaling their forces, because they know a catastrophe is coming. And that is, the truth is finally going to be revealed. And it will be revealed in such a way, that it can't be ignored.

You know, Glenn as effective as people like yourself are, in announcing and stating whether it's obviously true, it doesn't have the same weight as when an official committee of Congress, reaches certain conclusions.

It's harder for the media to ignore that. This isn't just about some business dealings with big companies in Ukraine and China.

Of course, China is our primary focus.

These are actual evidence of fraud. There's actual evidence of conspiracy. And with companies that are directly tied to the communist leadership, and Communist Party, in China.

And -- and we're finally going to have a chance, to investigate in that subpoena, and to understand these allegations. There's one thing I would caution. And I actually -- I -- I have a conclusion, that might surprise you. We should caution ourselves, in the sense, we won't necessarily impeach.

What we should say is, we'll investigate and find the truth.

And then if that truth compels, we should proceed with that.

GLENN: I agree.

CHRIS: I think the evidence of this is potentially so overwhelming. That I don't think it's possible, that the Senate doesn't actually convict.

I think it's possible, that the evidence is so overwhelming. That they may have no choice.

Now, again, let's see. Let's do the investigation. And let's see where we are.

But I think it's -- this is opening up a can of words. This is something way more substantial for the administration. Than just an inconvenience for them.

GLENN: Chris, I don't know if you know, anything about this happen.

I haven't looked into it. I haven't had time yet today. The Klamath River. They are getting rid of the four dams, on the Klamath River for the salmon. This is not the same river.
This is Washington, Oregon, California.

This is not the four dams. That they wanted to get rid of, on the Snake River. Right?

I didn't know we were trying to get rid of eight dams. I just know we were trying to get rid of four, apparently.

Do you know anything about the Klamath River Dam?

CHRIS: Well, I know a little bit. I don't know if I know enough to go into national radio.

GLENN: All right.

CHRIS: I will say this though, what you indicated is true. And also, it shows, just the insanity of the radical environmentalists who are in the middle of a drought, in the entire western United States. They think the solution is to drain the dams. They're trying to do the same thing here in Utah with the lake -- it just literally makes no sense in the middle of a drought. When water is precious, anyway, in a region where you know wars are fought over water, as the old saying goes. Yeah. Let's go drain dams. Because we know that will help. Again, it just simply makes no sense.

GLENN: Real quick, the EPA has held up major oil refinery, during the oil crisis. They're -- you know they're shutting everything down.

And they're not letting us redesign or rebuild or anything. According to the EPA.

Can Congress actually get anything done to actually relieve the American people of some of this nonsense, by themselves?

RICHARD: Well, I think there's only one avenue to do that. And that's through the appropriations process. Which you mentioned I sit on the house committee. I also sit on the Appropriations Committee.

And there's good news and bad news there. We can compel some of these things by tying it to government funding.

The bad news is, it's only a one-year solution. It's not a permanent solution. Because it's tied to language, which only funds the government for that year. So that's as long as language can apply.

And the second thing is that you run the risk of having, either the Senate or the president, veto or reject that funding mechanism, because of some of that language. And then you have to fight through the government checkout. So we're going to have some victory on those things, Glenn.

We will be able to insert language, whether it's with the EPA.

Another example, defunding 87,000 IRS agents.

I think that's one of the very first things we're going to take on. But we're going to do it through defunding again, through appropriations. And I challenge the president to shut down the government because he wants to adjust by having 87,000 IRS agents, who are going to come after any small business owner.

You don't need 87,000 agents to go after Jeff Bezos. That's clearly looking at middle-class Americans. Middle income Americans. And business owners.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

CHRIS: So I think we could have some success. I think we will have some success on some of the EPA and oil and gas businesses. The absurdity of the president shutting down domestic oil production. And then turning to the oil and gas producers, and blaming them, and talking about their greed over the price of gas. I mean, does he gaslight the American people, to the extent that he just assumes every one of them is stupid?

We know what's happened here. And I think we will have a little bit of success on that, but the challenge is you have Schumer still running the Senate. We have to work our language through him.

GLENN: I know. All right. Chris, thank you for everything you do.

Congressman Chris Stewart, and have a great Thanksgiving, sir. God bless.

CHRIS: Thank you, sir. You too.

GLENN: You bet.

Tulsi Gabbard: Democrat leaders PROVE they don't want “UNITY” after 2nd Trump attack

Democrats like Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have called for "unity" after the SECOND attempt on Donald Trump's life. But how can they say that after calling him a national threat for so long?! Can there even be unity with a party that is now BLAMING Trump for his own assassination attempt?! Former Democrat Tulsi Gabbard, who is now supporting Donald Trump for president, joins Glenn to make the case for REAL unity...not with the political elites whose dangerously hypocritical rhetoric got us here in the first place, but between freedom-loving Americans. Many average Democrats are waking up, she says, to what's really going on...

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GLENN: Let me play a new Trump ad, that is exposing the rhetoric from the left. Here it is. Cut four.

VOICE: If you had to be stuck in an elevator with either President Trump, Mike Pence, or Jeff Sessions. Who would it be?

STU: Listen to this cackle.

VOICE: Does one of us have to come out alive?
(laughter)

VOICE: They always asked me, don't I wish I were debating him? No, I wish during high school, I could take him behind the gym.

I said, no. If I were in high school, I would take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him.

VOICE: I just don't know why there aren't you uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be. That you cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about.

VOICE: If you see anybody from that cabinet, in a restaurant, in a department store, in a gasoline station, you get out, and you get them on the ground, and you push back on them. And you tell them, they are not welcome!

VOICE: You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives.

VOICE: Enemies of the state.

VOICE: President Walker, how do you resist wringing her neck?

VOICE: When they go low, we kick.

VOICE: Please, get up in the face of Congresspeople.

VOICE: Yes. I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
(music)

STU: Unbelievable. I mean, that is incredible. That's where we are.

And whose at fault, Glenn, for all of these -- you know, actual violence that's happening?

It's not the Democrats, of course. Listen to this.

VOICE: This really seems to be the confluence of two very bad, very bad things going on in the Republican Party.

On one side, the attempts to divide, to enrage the population. To put out false rumors. And misinformation.

STU: Oh.

GLENN: We know the -- the mayor in Springfield is begging the Republican Party. To stop with the false information.

On immigrants. They have portions of the town on lockdown. At this point.

And an increase in all of the partisanship and the fearmongering that's going on.

And then on the other side, we have this complete availability, of assault rifles, too.

It seems almost anyone who wants to have access.

GLENN: Oh, my God. Okay. Okay. Okay.

STU: I've got --

GLENN: First of all, how did -- how are you blame the -- the bomb threats on Trump, when we now know, it's been confirmed, all of those came from foreign sources? Outside the country.

STU: At least they were all hoaxes. Most of them apparently, from outside the country.

GLENN: Okay.

So that's -- really, I'm having a hard time with that.

The assault rifle thing, for the love of Pete. Why are you concentrating on that? Why aren't you asking the question, he was arrested, and charged with possession of a weapon of mass destruction.

Okay? That's the left's way of saying, he had a machine gun.

So if you have a weapon of mass destruction, I would think, that you would go to prison for a very long time.

I know if I had an illegal machine gun and I wasn't waving it around or doing anything, I just owned one, I would probably go to jail, for 20 years. To prison.

Because I think that's what the penalty is.

Why didn't he -- why -- why is there zero record of him going to prison?

Why?

Don't take to me about taking all of the machine guns.

He must buy it.

He didn't go and buy it from a store.

He had already had gun charges.

But there's no record of him spending any time in jail.

What is that? How -- how did that happen?

If that's not a Jeffrey Epstein kind of question. I don't know.

How does this guy just keep doing this? And then it just goes into a memory hole. And he never serves any time.

What the hell is that? Now, I'm not suggesting that, you know, he's like Jeffrey Epstein.

Was killed by the elites on the left.

STU: Oh, breaking news.

GLENN: I -- I am -- I'm not suggesting that he was a spy. But, I mean, he might have been. He might have been.

He had to be on the CIA's radar. Had to have been. I mean, he was praising the ayatollahs in Iran.

He tweeted, you have my permission now, to kill Donald Trump. How did he not have an FBI guy, going to his house?

I mean, if you say something like, we should meet to pray, in front of an abortion clinic.

You're in prison.

But you have my permission now to kill the president of the United States?

Huh. No prison time, after you've had gun charges. After you've been, you know, charged, and -- and convicted of -- of having a weapon of mass destruction.

What -- what?

Hmm.

It seems to me, that we're -- we're really missing some logic here.

First of all, how could Donald Trump's own rhetoric, get him killed?

I don't -- I mean, that's -- because that's some bad. That's some bad rhetoric. Really!

STU: It's the same time, Glenn.

GLENN: If you're ratcheting up the rhetoric. And you are the target, by your own supporter.

Which, by the way, is not the case.

The guy gave 15 times, to the democratic party, in Act Blue. So, I mean, the guy is -- he is -- he is a Democrat, through and through.

STU: I think, Glenn, it's the same. The same logic, that applies to turning a new page and finding a new way forward. With the current vice president.

If that works in your head, then all the stuff works.

GLENN: Yes. Exactly right.

Tulsi Gabbard is with us. Hey, Tulsi, how are you?

TULSI: Hey, good morning. I'm sorry, I'm a little bit late.

GLENN: No. No. No. Not a problem. We were just talking about how we find unity and how we reason with people who are really at a place to where they're saying, the problem is Donald Trump's rhetoric. He brought this upon himself.

Or it is a -- you know, it's the -- the problem is, that you can just go in and buy a gun.

The guy was convicted of owning a fully automatic machine gun, they called it in court. A weapon of mass destruction.

He had several gun charges. He was not -- he didn't go into a store and buy it legally.

And if he did, where was the breakdown. And he never -- we can't find any record of him going to prison.

When -- when your logic is -- will not allow any facts in, how do we change people's minds?

How do we reunite?

TULSI: Yeah. Glenn, you know, this is -- it really is about people who are reasonable. People who have common sense. People who can see clearly, continuing to speak the truth.

And point out, how dangerous, and insightful, their rhetoric is.

And how even as Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris, and other influential people in the Democratic Party, they say the word "unity." They say there is no place for political violence in our country, and yet, their actions and their inciteful (sic) rhetoric have the exact opposite effect and consequence.

You know, when we hear people like Kamala Harris call for unity, while at the same time, she and her surrogates. And those in the Democrat elite are over and over and over again. Calling President Trump, the most dangerous threat to our democracy.

Trump is saying, he's the modern day Hitler. I saw this morning. David Close, who is on Kamala Harris' campaign team, who was on President Obama's campaign team and presidency, saying that Donald Trump and his kind must be gotten rid of.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

TULSI: Period. Never to rise in power again. They have this sense of -- of so-called righteous justification for their rhetoric.

Which it should be no surprise, then.

To those who are listening to them.

Who feel that they must take action for the, quote, unquote, greater good.

To do what this guy tried to do the other day.

To do what the guy in Butler Pennsylvania, tried to do.

As long as they continue this.

And as you said, even on the day of.

On the day of. Within minutes, of this assassination attempt.

That happened in Florida, the other day.

We say some of the most influential Democrat continue this insightful rhetoric.

So those of us who cherish and love ask appreciate our country and our democracy. And peace.

We have to keep on speaking the truth. And speaking about reason, and common sense.

And pointing them out, for what they are doing, and how dangerous the consequences are. Their hypocrisy, is so glaring. To call for unity.

While, at the same time, you know, Hillary Clinton, calling anyone who voted for Donald Trump, the -- the deplorables. We have people on MSNBC, the other day, saying that every single voter and supporter of Donald Trump is despicable.

You know, this kind of rhetoric is what is dividing our country. And can lead to a very dangerous place.

GLENN: So I -- I believe that there are millions of good Democrats, that love the country. Want to do the right thing.

They may not like Donald Trump.

And they may not agree with all of their policies.

But that's where you and Bobby Kennedy.

And Alan Dershowitz. All of these icons. I mean, you ran for president. For a -- for the Democrats.

All of the icons, of the democratic party. It's not that you are coming out and saying, you know what.

I just woke up, and I just think, all of Trump's policies are just the very best.

I wouldn't change a thing. You actually -- correct me if I'm wrong. Are saying, there are some things that I really like. But I cannot vote for these people.

I have to vote for this. Because this party has become so dangerous.

Am I right?

TULSI: You are right. And, quite frankly, that really speaks to the very clear choice. And the different mindset, that exists between these two candidates. President Trump and vice president Harris, who are running for president.

And those who are supporting them. You know, there are those of us who stand with President Trump, because we recognize that in this election, he is our best hope, to preserve freedom. To work our way towards peace and prosperity. And Kamala Harris guarantees the exact opposite of those things, and this is not my opinion. The proof can be found in her record.

And we look at the reaction, that's held, for example. There's a very famous actress, who in this past week, expressed some appreciation and empathy for Melania Trump, former First Lady Melania Trump.

In her very heartfelt video, about what she went through. And what it was like for her, and her family. To see her husband, almost assassinated.

And this very famous actress, fell for her and her feelings. And was excoriated by Hollywood and by the propaganda media.

How dare she express empathy for this woman, whose husband was almost killed.

Almost shot in the face. And kudos to this actor for not backing down.

And simply saying, what are we as a country. When you have people, who are eager, to celebrate the death of another human being.

And that's how sick their mindset is. When we heard people after Butler, Pennsylvania, saying, oh, well, too bad the shooter missed. Be a better shot next time.

This is who these people are. And it speaks to how they see our country. How they see the American people. How they see the world. We don't want these people anywhere near the levers of power.

Anywhere near being this a position where you're making decisions. About life and death for Americans.

Or people in the world.

There's a huge the difference in that mindset. These people are motivated by hate. And fear of losing power.

And what I've seen, a number of rallies these past few days. I've been around a lot of Americans who are motivated by love of our country.

GLENN: Are you seeing Democrats? Are you seeing people?

TULSI: It was the other day. I was in Arizona the other day, with Bobby Kennedy. We had a great event. The first one of our Reclaim America Tour.

I asked the audience, raise your hand if you're a Democrat or a former Democrat. And almost half the hands in that audience went straight up in the air.

GLENN: Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. Tulsi, thank you so much for joining us. I really appreciate everything you're doing. Thank you for taking the risk.

STATE-RUN MEDIA tries to BLAME TRUMP for 2nd assassination attempt?!

“We are entering a new time,” Glenn says. Modern-day political assassins historically come from 3 groups, “and they are all wound tight as a drum” right now. Glenn reviews the evidence that the Left, not the MAGA movement, is calling for violence — even after the first Trump assassination attempt. But how did the state-run media respond to the second Trump assassination attempt? By blaming … TRUMP?!

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GLENN: We are entering a new time.

Anybody who is paying attention, knows that. I've never, in my lifetime seen -- seen something so close to being a John F. Kennedy moment, as the assassination attempt, on Donald Trump.

I have seen an assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan. It either, history shows, it comes from one of three groups.

Either crazies. John Hinckley.

Or wound up communists. Anarchists.

Socialists. Comes from the left. Pragmatism or it comes from Palestinian zealots. That's just a fact.

We have all of those zealots at a zenith of power right now. And they are wound tight as a drum. Our media doesn't really care.

When they targeted, yeah. And I use that word.

When they targeted Sarah Palin for using the word "targeted" -- we're targeting these districts. When Gabby Giffords was shot, they made a really big deal out of it. I mean, do you remember what they put her through?

But now, they don't seem to care, at all.

About their language. Now, after two assassination attempts. Here is the -- we put a montage together of their rhetoric against Donald Trump for the last few years. Listen to this. Cut two, please.

VOICE: When was the last time, an actor assassinated a president?

VOICE: Where is John Wilkes Booth when you need him?

VOICE: I believe that Trump poses a fundamental threat to America.

VOICE: Trump is as destructive a person in this century, as Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were in the last century.

VOICE: President Trump is dangerous to America. And the future of America.

VOICE: We need to articulate the fact that Donald Trump is a danger to America.

VOICE: He must go. He is a clear and present danger to the nation.

VOICE: Donald Trump is a fascist leader. And he's mobilizing his forces.

VOICE: Donald Trump is a genuine threat to this nation.

VOICE: He's a threat to our freedom. He's a threat to our democracy.

VOICE: He is not only unfit. He is destructive, to our democracy.

And he has to be -- he has to be eliminated.

VOICE: The emphasis of threat to the United States of America is Donald Trump.

VOICE: I see Trump as a danger to democracy.

And I see him as a self-proclaimed fascist.

GLENN: Trump is an existential threat to the future of America.

VOICE: David Aaronovitch, who presents Radio 4's briefing room show, took to X/Twitter.

And wrote, if I was Biden, I would hurry it up, and have Trump murdered on the basis that's a threat to America's security.

GLENN: So there's assassination attempt number one after years of indoctrination.

That he is Hitler.

If you really believe he's Hitler, I mean, people have -- have, you know, played that little game even when we were kids, you know, if you could go back and assassinate Hitler as a baby, would you do it?

Of course, I would do it. Well, here's Hitler, about to take power.

If that's -- if you listen to them, that's what you believe. So, of course, you will wind up nutjobs, to go out and try to shoot.

Now, they immediately said, after the last assassination attempt, they said, we've got to -- you know, will anybody, you know, tone down the rhetoric?

Well, let's see, did they tone downtown rhetoric? This is the rhetoric since the first assassination. Cut one.

VOICE: You know, we're here to say (bleep) Trump, (bleep) MAGA. The whole agenda. The whole fascists.

VOICE: What do you think about the attempted assassination of Donald Trump?

VOICE: This was close.

We could be in a time line for Trump to be dead, and for me, that would have been okay.

VOICE: It's too bad the bandage was just over his ear. It should have been over his mouth.

VOICE: I think with every fabric of my body. I think that Donald Trump represents a threat to democracy. Look, are they a threat to democracy? Yes. Are they going to take our rights away? Yes.

VOICE: It is threats against democracy. I think it's important, to, you know, turn the page.

VOICE: He will focus on Donald Trump's threat to American democracy.

VOICE: He feels very strongly that Donald Trump say threat to our democracy.

VOICE: So Donald Trump was recently shot at one of his rallies. How do you feel about that?

VOICE: I wish he would have gotten shot in the forehead.

VOICE: Donald Trump is dangerous. And because he's dangerous, Project 2025 is dangerous.

VOICE: Right now, I feel like MAGA in general, they are threats to us domestically, and we see it time and time again.

GLENN: Okay. So that's them toning things down. Yesterday, just before the news broke, Kamala Harris was speaking at a rally.

And she said, Donald Trump must never again be allowed to stand behind a microphone. Or the seal of the president of the United States.

Now, you could say, when she said, stand behind the seal of the president of the United States, that she was just saying, that we can't allow him to be elected.

Go out and get the vote.

But for a man to never be allowed to stand behind a microphone, how exactly do you do that?

Do you throw him in prison?

Oh, yeah. They're trying to do that. Or do you just kill him?

And I would say, yeah. They're trying to do that, as well.

How did they respond, yesterday?

Let's -- let's go to cut three. Here's MSNBC.

Yesterday.

VOICE: The demonization of the other side. Where we simply, it's no longer politics.

It's gotten bigger than that. You know, the calls for violence. The violence rhetoric. That you look at what happens.

That this heated rhetoric can only go so far. Before unfortunately, it has led to violence. On both sides of the aisle.

So I think it's just something that Democrats and Republicans can --

GLENN: Can we stop?

Let me just ask you a question.

So are you saying, that Donald Trump is ratcheting up the rhetoric, which then his people use to go and try to kill him?

Because that doesn't make any sense.

He's ratcheting up the rhetoric.

No. I've heard him talk about facts.

I've heard him talk about facts like she's -- she grew up a Marxist. And she's lying to you.
And if you had a -- a non-state press, which ABC is now.

You have to stop thinking of these people as press.

They are one and the same. They are Pravda. They are a government propaganda arm.

That is clear.

If you would have had a fair debate, you would have had a few things corrected.

But what was happening?

Well, what happened in that debate, was exactly what Kamala Harris said would happen.

But she accused Donald Trump of being the one who would do it.

She said, you will hear nothing, but name-calling.

You will hear lies and smears.

And that's exactly what she did, the whole time.

Because her whole strategy, was to piss him off.

I don't know if name-calling counts when you just say somebody is weak.

You're weak. You're weak.

You're pathetic. You're weak.

She was egging him on.

Now, if that's the person that wants to be the leader of the free world, now, that's interesting.

That's interesting.

Now, you can say, well, Donald Trump did that.

Yes. But you hated him doing that. So why have you gone down to his level. If that's what you think?

Well, it's the only way to win. Oh. So you believe the ends justify the means.

I don't believe that. I don't like things that Donald Trump said. Has said in the past.

I don't hear him say these things anymore.

I think the man has changed. I know him.

I would consider him a friend, now.

I didn't like him at first. Actually, I liked him at first.

And then I thought, he was playing me.

Which he wasn't.

I really thought he was playing me, I have learned, that's who this guy is.

And then, what did he do?

He got into office.

And what did he do?

He made America better? He ended the wars. He was unwinding things rationally, he was exposing the lies. Of the Deep State, that you now know exists.

I mean, the whole Russian collusion thing.

Even the media has mentioned it, that it was a lie.

They're still giving the same crap.

They're still talking to the same insiders in the intelligence community, tell us.

They're still using the same sources. But they had to admit that, yes. Those sources were lying.

So while they said that he was a Russian asset. Well, they said, that he was doing all kinds of things that he shouldn't have been doing.

Nothing was ever proven.

In fact, the you know the guy who came out on the perfect phone call.

Ukraine. That everybody just loves so much. He was the perfect whistle-blower!

Vindman. Oh, my gosh. He was great.

We got to listen to Vindman. Right?

Right? We have to listen to him, right?

Do you know his brother is running for office, in Virginia?

His brother.

Vindman.

You vote for Vindman. You know, you should have your head examined.

But Vindman actually came out, the wife of Vindman.

Came out this weekend, and said, carry on with your Sunday afternoon.

No ears were harmed.

That was her response.

Hmm. She doubled down.

After a Congress -- a congressman came out and said, you know, that's probably not the right thing to do.

You shouldn't -- you probably shouldn't vote for the brother. She doubled down. She said, I condemn you. I condemn your lack of integrity. Your attacks on immigrants.

Your desecration of Arlington National Cemetery.

Really? I was with the families, this weekend.

I was with them.

I was with them. I want you to meet them.

They're amazing. They're -- they're not anti-Democrat, anti-Republican. Anti-anything.

They are just pro-the truth. And they have been smeared and destroyed.

And they asked Donald Trump to go to Arlington National Cemetery.

They asked him. He did.

These people are -- they're nuts.

And, you know, many -- maybe many of our families have been infected by this.

But I urge you, not to -- I urge you, before you concentrate on anybody else. Concentrate on yourself.

Clean out your own house.

Make sure that your house is in order.

Make sure that you have nothing, that you are doing, that is against, you know, common sense.

Against the teachings of Christ.

Clean it all out. Whatever you're doing. Stop it right now.

Clean it out.

Finish it. Put it in the past. Repent.

And prepare yourself.

Have to. I firmly believe. And I -- you know, everybody said this, from the dawn of time.

And they've been wrong every time.

So I'm most likely wrong. Probably 99 percent chance I'm wrong. But I think the Lord is coming. And you have to choose, which side you're on.

I'm not on Donald Trump's side. I'm on the Lord's side. And the Lord will use anyone as flawed as they are, if they just will stand up.

Just stand up. And protect what is right. No matter how flawed they are. Martin Luther King is was a very flawed man. He stood up, and did what was right.

This guy is not going to stop. He doesn't need it for his family. He doesn't certainly need it for his business.

He doesn't need it for money. He doesn't need it for fame.

Why the hell is this guy running?

Why the hell is this guy -- they tried to kill him now, twice. Almost killed him the first time.

And he stood up, and looked at the audience. And said, fight! Yesterday, his response was, I am just going to play through.

No. Mr. President, we need to get you off the golf course. Why?

FBI whistleblower WARNS about agent investigating 2nd Trump assassination attempt

The FBI is investigating the incident at the Trump International Golf Club in Florida as a second assassination attempt against Donald Trump. But is the FBI trustworthy to lead this investigation? FBI whistleblower Steve Friend, who exposed what really happened in the FBI's Mar-a-Lago raid, joins Glenn Beck to expose how the SAME FBI office is handling this investigation! And even worse, the Special Agent in charge was previously in charge of an anti-whistleblower division. To top it all off, he also reportedly had to cleanse his Facebook page of all his anti-Trump posts! So, why is he the agent now in charge of investigating an alleged attempt on Trump's life?! And should we even trust the FBI as a whole after it helped concoct the Russian collusion hoax and suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story?

Transcript

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GLENN: All right. Let me talk to Steve Friend. Steve is a whistle-blower with the FBI. He has -- they have made his life miserable.

But he doesn't care. He's doing the right thing. He's one of the -- he's one of the good guys that used to see, and you used to believe that existed in places like the FBI. He really is that guy.

True blue. Cares about the country and the Constitution. He blew the whistle on the -- on the FBI in Florida.

When they went full S.W.A.T. on Mar-a-Lago. Which we know now, was absolutely unnecessary.

And way out of protocol.

Steve is with us now. Because I wanted to get him on. Because the guy who authorized that, and then dummied evidence up, is the guy in charge now, of the FBI's investigation of this shooter.

How good does that make you feel, Steve?

STEVE: Oh, well. I mean, it actually goes a little bit deeper than that, Glenn. With the media, you need the old chalkboard out here, to explain to the audience.

This is for Jeffrey Veltri. And for your audience's edification, before he assumed his post in FBI Miami, as a special agent in charge.

He was the deputy assistant director of the security division of the FBI. That's the branch that's going after the whistle-blowers. And from that post, he actually said that, whistle-blowers, that they were looking to perch on the ranks, were people that were military veterans. Because he thought they were disloyal.

As well as people who attended regular religious worship ceremonies, as opposed to the coronavirus vaccine.

And then when the word came down, he was going to go to the FBI Miami office.

Christopher Wray and deputy director Paula Bait, and executive assistant director Jen Moore, also another person who -- was involved in getting rid of all the whistle-blowers.

Said that he had to cleanse his Facebook account of all the anti-Trump vitriol that he publicly put out there.

And how he was in a position of authority on the FBI Miami office.

And that's just the office that has the responsibility for investigating the latest assassination attempt.

GLENN: So you think the guy who wanted to purge the FBI of military people, religious people, and Trump supporters, might not do an honest investigation? Is that what I'm hearing Steve?

STEVE: Well, I mean, throw out a little sarcasm here, Glenn. But at the same time, this is the agency that looked at the 2017 Congressional baseball shooting, where a Bernie Sanders supporter showed up, as for other Republicans, then proceeded to try to kill 10 percent of the Republican caucus. And the FBI investigated and said, it was not an assassination attempt. That was suicide by cop.

GLENN: Steve, what has to happen to the FBI?

I -- I was unfortunately, I -- made a statement. Right after my wife called me. And she said, have you heard the news?

And I said, oh, dear God, what?

And she said, they tried to kill the president again.

And then I had people ask me for comments and everything else. So I rushed to X. I shouldn't have.

And made a -- made a statement that was just raw, and then Spaces asked me to come on and make another statement. And that was even more raw.

I shouldn't have done it. I was really, really upset about this. But at some point, I calmed down in the interview. I said, we have to -- we have to fumigate all of the federal government. I mean, if you really wanted to do this right, to return it to factory settings, you have to shut it down, and restart again.

You know, turn it on and turn it back -- turn it off, and turn it back on again. And restore the factory settings to the Constitution.

These things have to be fumigated. They just have to be out. All of these people need to be fired.

Even the good ones. Because we don't know who is good and bad. And we have to start from scratch.

Is that what it's going to take, Steve?

STEVE: 100 percent.

And this goes back to when we were first introduced a couple years ago, and I told you, one of my greatest concerns was that the FBI was going to be one of the major contributors to the boiling pot.

They continued to raise the temperature, and have what's happened within the country.

And the FBI had convinced half of one side, that the other half wants to kill them because they're Nazi terrorists and extremists. And the FBI has just followed suit. They have become more and more politicized.

And if you did not know anything else, and I'm done talking about the good men and women of the FBI. If you don't know anything else about the FBI, and I told you, as an American taxpayer, are you willing to give $12 billion to an organization, which in 2016, took a fake dossier, to a fake counterintelligence investigation of a candidate, and then eventual President Trump.

People opened an illegal Pfizer wiretaps.

Then used those illegal Pfizer wiretaps to find out in 2020, about the ne'er-do-well son of then candidate Joe Biden, having a laptop that was already in the FBI's investigation.

And they stood idly by, at 51 intelligence officials, saying it was Russian disinformation. And then went to social media companies, that told them it was sensitive information.

Essentially to generate a talking point for a presidential debate. You would say, that's a secret police force. Of the republic. We have to control, alt, delete it.

GLENN: Let me ask you, did you see Merrick Garland's speech last week?

STEVE: I did unfortunately. But I was grateful that Tulsi Gabbard reached out to me, and highlight the fact that this is a completely broken and weaponized Department of Justice.

That should also be on the chopping block.

GLENN: Tulsi Gabbard has just been so great.

I just love her.

You know, I saw her say, it was hard not to laugh, if it wasn't so true.

But had he -- this speech that he gave last week, that they are on the up and up. That there's no -- no corruption.

And he won't hear of the good men and women of the Justice Department.

This is -- you have to be insane, Steve.

You have to be insane.

To believe what this government is telling you now, about all of these things.

STEVE: Well, I mean, you have half of the country, that's convinced that the other half is radical, and rabid. And they've been told that for the last eight years.

And because they had preferred the Republican candidate for president in the last two presidential elections. And the Department of Justice is the key on the attack dog. And they are sending out their forces.

Their storm troopers in force, to go after the perceived political enemies of the current administration.

And that includes 89-year-old women who are concentration camp survivors that were praying outside of abortion clinics. And it includes guys like my friend Garrett O'Boyle, who came forward for the right reason at the right time, and made a nonpartisan whistle-blower disclosure.

And he was recommended for perjury charges. When in fact, there's actual evidence, that that was not true.

I was grateful also, that TheBlaze, Joe Hanneman and Steve Baker contributed to his story, highlighting that last week.

GLENN: Did you see, what Robert F. Kennedy said on Saturday?

He's now being investigated for something that happened 20 years ago.

He said, I received a letter from the national March even fisherman's newt. Saying they were investigating me. For collect a whale specimen man, 20 years ago. Now, how does that happen, I mean, at this time, if it isn't the weaponization of government?

STEVE: He doesn't. This is just more evidence, that I don't know what is going to require us to incentivize our elected officials, to actually come to the conclusion, that going after RFK, going after an 89-year-old concentration camp survivor. For them to say, that we have to avert a government shutdown.

Is effectively saying, it is a better outcome for the government to go after individuals like RFK. Rather than have us go through a temporary partial government shutdown.

That looked a lot like Labor Day weekend. And I think the American people -- I don't know how that weekends you to the government being shut down partially, but I think it's more of an optimal solution, that it just hasn't been put forward by the people that we elected. And they pledged to us, that they would end weaponization, and it hasn't happened, in the two years that it's been upheld.

GLENN: Can you tell me, Steve, last question.

What are the questions that have to be answered on this shooting?

STEVE: I want to know, how an individual was posted up at a golf course. Because there's no reason, that he would be out there inspecting it, unless he was out there every single take.

So there's either some sort of operational security issue, or there was some sort of coordination. I was willing. And actually, took the belief, that Butler, Pennsylvania, was due to the myth of competence of the Secret Service.

It just hasn't been tested for four decades. It had lots of failures that always was on. But the fact that this guy was able to be there, at a time when Donald Trump -- who doesn't play golf there, every single day.

GLENN: No. No, no, no.

And it was not on his schedule. It was not on his schedule, that he would be at Mar-a-Lago. Although. You could make, it would be a reasonable -- he has a day off from the campaign. It's a reasonable sumptuous.

Him playing golf. CNN has now verified, that was a last-minute edition. So how did this guy know that?

STEVE: That's a huge question. And it's also the fact that that's a regular location for him to go.

And since he's been in public office, the last almost decade now. You would think there would be additional security measures now. That is just regular threat assessment to harden that place.

And it was not like he was at a Dustin National (phonetic), or he saw -- no, they're entirely different golf courses.

No, that's his regular place. And they did not do that. That's a security failure. The fact that he was able to be there, at that time and at that place.

What people don't understand is three to 500 yards. If you're playing golf, that's far. If you're shooting a rifle, that's barely reaching out, and touching someone by the nose.

GLENN: Thank you very much, Steve.

I appreciate it. Thank you for everything you've done. A man who has been dragged through the mud. And his life made a living hell, just because he tried -- stood up, at the FBI and said, no.

This is wrong. I won't do that. A whistle-blower extraordinaire, Steve Friend.

REACTION: Something is VERY OFF about the 2nd Trump assassination attempt

Former president Donald Trump was allegedly targeted for assassination a second time over the weekend, this time at the Trump International Golf Club in Florida. Glenn takes a close look at all that we currently know, and things look VERY suspicious. Glenn asks the questions the state-run media won't: Why did the potential attacker bring a Go-Pro and body armor (misleadingly referred to by the media as "ceramic tiles")? How did he even know Trump would be golfing at that time? Did the Secret Service actually do its job? Did the suspect, with all his ties to Ukraine and history of media interviews and donations to the Democratic fundraising platform ActBlue, have any outside help?

Transcript

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GLENN: Well, we'll all remember where we were when they tried to kill the president, the second time! Here's an idea.

What do you say, we just go to the ballot box? What do you say?

We're 50 days away? Can we take the next seven weeks and not try to assassinate somebody in this country? You want to talk about a banana republic. Gang, we're here.

I will tell you, I'm not doing the show today, that I had planned.

Because I was meeting with the president on Saturday. And he said something off-handed to me. And I was going in a direction of research on something.

And he said, Glenn, I think there is something that is bigger than the economy.

Right now. And he said, the economy, we're killing them on the economy.

He said with they have been no place to go on the economy. They have no record on the economy.

He said, but what's happening now in our cities with and be what's happening in Ohio. And elsewhere. In -- in Denver. He said, I think this is actually a bigger thing than the economy.

And he is absolutely right.

If you know some of the things that we've been doing research on.

Chris Rufo has already done his research on this.

This is something that they've known about. Well, I'll get into it, not today. Well, we'll probably get into it a little bit tomorrow.

But today, I have to talk about, a would-be assassin. Now, this one seems to be miraculous. You know, God saved, I believed. It was a miracle that Donald Trump turned his head, and -- and the bullet missed him. And only nicked his ear. Instead of going right to the center of his head. And all of us having clear, clear high-definition evidence of the president's head exploding. Live.

So I think God saved him. From the last one.

God may have saved him from this one, as well.

But this one was a miracle, in the darkest of ways, as well.

First, let me tell you what happened. Early reports said that police recovered an AK-47 from the bushes outside of the golf course, where the president was golfing, as well as a GoPro recording device. Now, why would you have a GoPro recording device?

Why would you have it attached to the fence, pointed out at the putting green? Why would you have that?

Unless you were planning on recording that, so that your deeds would live forever. Now, my question is: Is there anything else already reported on the GoPro? Is there maybe a statement? Because why would you record your deeds, without recording a message for all to hear? So I would like to know what was on the GoPro, if anything. But this guy obviously had an agenda.

Now, he, according to the press, oh. He was all wound up because of Trump's rhetoric. Was he now?

We'll get to that in a second stop they caught him, after he was in the bushes. And a Secret Service agent, was eagle-eyed enough, to spot the barrel of a gun, coming out from the bushes. This guy had taken two backpacks, and tied them to the fence. And they were on each side of where he would have been sitting, and the barrel of the gun, would have been right between them.

Now, it's really curious. I mean, I know the media, they're so smart. They know what everything means. They reported that he had ceramic tiles in his backpack. And I immediately thought, I thought he was a roofer? Not somebody that was going to lay tile in bathrooms. No! Could they explain what ceramic tiles mean? I know, because I've had to wear them. From time to time.

A ceramic tile is what you put inside the bulletproof vest, if you are expecting a chest shot. A bulletproof vest will not stop a high-powered rifle. However, ceramic tile will. So he put ceramic tile in his backpacks, right where he would have been crouched. With the gun. So he was expecting a shoot-out. Okay.

How did this Secret Service agent see it? I don't know. But I want to believe and take it at face value. That he was doing his job.

The reason why I say this time I believe it, at least this time I want to believe that that agent was doing his job. Is because I was with the president on Saturday. And I said on X, and I don't know where else I said it on Saturday, this is very first time I have seen the Secret Service in 15 years, actually do their job.

I have sat behind Mitt Romney, pass the Secret Service, with the guy next to me, and a gun in his back.

They missed it. I have come through security doors, that were supposed to be secure. And went past all of the Secret Service passage. All of their security. Went behind them, around them. And walked right directly to the president.

Now, if I can do that, who can't?

And I've been railing about this, for 15 years. Saturday was the first time, I thought Secret Service was taking it seriously.

There was no way, you were getting into the event that I was in, unless you were an invited guest, or you were supposed to be there.

And there was no way, you were getting close to the president.

So what happened?

Well, I want to believe, that -- I want to believe that the Secret Service was doing their job. There were two holes. One or two holes ahead of the president. And he was scoping it out. And he looks and he sees the barrel of a gun through the bushes. There's then a shoot-out. Apparently, they were shooting at each other. They were not shooting at the president.

I don't know, because things are still unclear. The reason why we caught him, is because somebody saw him run out of the bushes. And then get into his car. Somebody with the wherewithal to write down the plate number, and be able to remember what the car was.

They called police immediately. Said, here's the plate number. Here's what the car looks like. And because we have new AI, all over the freeways. All over our roads. It could read license plate numbers. Identify the car. And they found him almost immediately. Stopped him on the how.

They arrested him.

So now, now what?

Well, who is he?

Well, the first person. Well, as soon as the name was released, the Guardian was the first place to actually find his son.

His son is -- was, I believe, in Florida.

And they called him. His name is Orin Ralph. They called him, he picked up the phone. He hadn't heard the news. And he was asked for a comment. And he said, well, this is the first I've heard about it. Was my father shot or injured?

He then said, his father hates Donald Trump, as, quote, every reasonable person does.

Hmm. Okay. All right. He said, I don't like Trump either.

Now, this is just -- this is his immediate response, after hearing that his father tried to kill the president, he then says, well, he hates him just like every reasonable person, and I hate him too.

Oh, okay. But he said, his dad was not a violent person, and couldn't believe his father would target the president. He's my dad, and all that he's had is a couple of traffic tickets, as far as I know.

That's crazy. I know my dad. I love my dad, and that's nothing like him.

Is it? Is it really? Nothing like him. You know your dad?

Hmm. Hmm. Okay. Now, he said, I've got to go. Because I have to get more information. But I don't know any more, because weed a falling out. We've grown apart.

But he's not a violent person. He's a hardworker. He's a great dad. He's a great dude. He's a nice guy, who worked his whole F-ing life.

I've never known him to even own a gun or known him to do anything like this.

Okay. Well, I don't think you know your dad. I don't think you know your dad.

Because your dad seeming -- the evidence seems to point, that it was the same guy, with the same name. In the same state.

That barricaded himself into his office, a gun.

And that gun, well, the FBI said it was a weapon of mass destruction.

It was a fully automatic machine gun.

So he went to prison. Or, I'm sorry. Went to jail.

He was convicted. Of having a weapon of mass destruction.

Now, wow. That seems like that should have been a long sentence. But it wasn't. It wasn't.

And if you are -- if you're caught with an automatic weapon, and you don't have a -- a stamp for it.

A tag for it.

Well, then you are. You go to prison usually 20 years.

I don't know why he didn't go to jail for 20 years. But he didn't.

And then he got out. Now, remember, his dad is just a peaceful person.

Then he got out. And started to recruit people, to go to Ukraine!

To fight in Ukraine!

Now, this is where it gets really interesting.

By the way, after the son did verify that, yep, that is his dad.

He -- he made a public statement.

He said, I hate this game, every four years. And I think we all do. And if my father wants to be a martyr, to how broken and disassociated the process has become from the real problems and practical solutions, then that's his choice.

So see, that sounds like you're excusing your dad's actions.

I'm not saying that what he's done or what he's about, that's just my own rant, about being fed up with all of it, for my entire life.

South park said it best, every four years, we're forced to choose between a giant turd sandwich and a giant douche. And it all stays f'ed in the same ways by different degrees, and we're exhausted and embarrassed by it all.

Hmm. So the ends justifies the means, is what I'm hearing here.

Well, thank you for stopping by Saul Alinsky. Well, let me get back to who this guy is.

Because I have Eric Prince coming up in about half an hour. He's the guy who said to Ron DeSantis, you should take this investigation in-house, because I don't think you should just trust the FBI on it.

And, thank you, Eric. Neither do I.