RADIOJanuary 11, 2023

EXPOSED: The SHOCKING way Coca Cola HIDES its health risks

Calley Means, Co-Founder of TrueMed, once spent time in the same room as Coca Cola’s top executives and lobbyists. It was there, he tells Glenn, he discovered Americans’ health was being ‘rigged.’ Now, this whistleblower is exposed exactly how Coke — and other corporations like it — fool the world by hiding its immense health risks. The shocking, three-pronged approach, Means tells Glenn, involves bribery, phony studies, and promises made to top organizations. And because of it, Americans — and especially our kids — are suffering.

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GLENN: I don't think we understand why these companies do what they do. And I think the first -- the first time that we saw -- or, we should look to seeing where companies change, was Occupy Wall Street.

Those banks were -- were being protested. And they sat in front of the streets.

And most people think, oh, it just died out. No. I believe that there were deals made. Look, leave us alone. And we'll help you do X, Y, or Z.

There are very few giant corporations, I think, that are true to, you know, even their advising. You know, I want to teach the world to sing. Do you, Coke?

We have Calley Means on the phone with us now. He is the cofounder of True Med. And he is a whistle-blower on Coca-Cola.

Hello, Calley.

CALLEY: How are you doing, Glenn?

GLENN: I'm good. I'm good so tell me your story from the beginning.

Before we get into the Coca-Cola, tell me who you are, where you came from, and how you got here.
CALLEY: You know, I was born and raised in the swamp. I was born and raised in Georgetown. Very ideological. Worked in politics early in my career. Worked for John McCain. Got into -- road people out to the campaigns, got into consulting.

Then I found myself in the rooms with Pharma executives, soda executives, and seeing some very alarming things. So slowly -- slowly got out of that. Got more into entrepreneurship. And it just kind of grounded in that public policy standpoint, had become very passionate.

I think when you look at what's happening with kids, twenty-five percent of them having pre-diabetes. What's happening to the health of Americans. There's something being rigged, and it's a first order issue.

Because, you know, depression and disease is just skyrocketing. Life expectancy is declining.

And I really turned it back to my early experience, and have a new company that's trying to change those incentives. But with a new son and looking at the world he's going into, I felt the need to speak out.

GLENN: Okay. So you were -- and were you on the side of Coca-Cola, at the time when they were talking about the sugary drinks?

And Snap?

GLENN: Yeah. Unfortunately, there's not a big lobby for diabetic children. But since Coke has thrown a lot of money around in DC.

And the consultants are almost, you know, universally on the side of the soda companies. The American Beverage Associations, various fun groups, and Pharma.

GLENN: And so what happened? You were -- you were there. And you were fighting for Coca-Cola. Or big soda.

And you were in the room. And -- and what did you witness?

CALLEY: Yeah. I think this is really instructive. And it's from 2012. And instruct it now. Because it's up for debate again. This is around food stamps. Food stamps is a program that 15 percent of the American people within depend on for nutrition. We can debate on whether it's a good program or not, but it's there. Shockingly, 10 percent of that has been spent on sugar drinks. Ten percent of 110 billion dollar government intrusion program. It's a material part of Coke and Pepsi's revenue.

And logically, people were questioning that, and Coke wanted to keep the status quo.

So the playbook they used is the playbook, as old as time. And it's used today.

It's a three-part story. The first was identifying civil rights organizations. In this case, the NAACP.

And what was shocking, being in the room, as -- as, you know, kind of -- kind of a bad scene. I mean, these old Coke executives, basically dictating what the NAACP should say. It's very transactional. Coke gave the NAACP millions of dollars, and they explicitly agreed to call opponents. In this case, parents who are concerned their children are ingesting 100 times more sugar than they did 100 years ago, racist.

It's that simple. But it's bipartisan. The second leg of the stool was, you know, we paid off -- pay to play. Insert think tanks on the left hand and the right.

It's a big player in the pay-to-play scheme. And it's basically corporate-owned entity, ordering a study from the Heritage Foundations like going to McDonald's and ordering a Big Mac. You get whatever you want.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait.

I want to make sure I understand this.

You're saying that part of -- you know, big corporation's planning. Which I absolutely believe. Is to order studies.

And -- but they go to the Heritage Foundation? One of them, you say, they're on both left and right. One of them is the Heritage Foundation?

CALLEY: Oh, absolutely. And, yeah. I think it's important to call out. The elites on both sides are getting called off. The way it works at the Heritage Foundation, you get a fundraising point. The fundraising point scorched the Coke executives or the Pharma executives, under the Heritage Foundation. Meet with the scholar.

You talk high-level concepts. And then the fundraising point basically guarantees that a study will say what they want to say. And there's an exchange of funds. Interestingly, and I think importantly, I also see, you know, oil companies. And, you know, other special interests, Heritage Foundation, and other think tanks, to not call something a tax. I mean, Grover Norquist. Heritage Foundation's whole DC influence, you know, network.

Actually has redefined often what a tax is. So you can actually buy publicity to rail against a tax. Of course.

But you can also pay these organizations to redefine something as not a tax that benefits them.

GLENN: There was something that I saw, that I talked about in the first hour of today's podcast of -- of there's this new study out, by the -- you know, greening of the world foundation. Or whatever it is.

A global warming foundation. New study that shows that gas stoves and all natural gas should be taken out of homes. Because it's too dangerous for kids with asthma. And the first thing I thought was, oh, really?

The global warming study came back with that. What a -- what a surprise.

CALLEY: Exactly.

GLENN: And everything that we do now, in politics, is based on some study. And you're saying, you can't trust the study from either side.

CALLEY: Well, you know, I think -- I think that's very important. And I think it warrants a great example, when there's trillions of dollars at play.

You have -- you can guarantee that financial rating institutions that trust.

And I think -- I think the third place, we went on this stop, that's the playbook. Is I think actually the most important. And I think the least understood.

Large, you know, prominent elite research universities, in my opinion, are nothing more than public relations entities of corporate interests.

GLENN: Yes. They're exactly what Eisenhower warned about, in his farewell address. Exact.

I mean, he said, billing military industrial. Corporations. And educations will just start selling out, and producing the studies that corporations or the government wants.

CHRIS: Yeah. There's nothing more prominent or unimpeachable within still today, on the media. On the left and the right. As a peer-reviewed study, from an elite research institution.

But you've got to ask who is funding these studies. You can have a peer-reviewed study say whatever you want. You can ask whatever question you want.

You can structure the study however you want. So it's really irrelevant for this issue I really care about, which is the nutrition. The hijacking of American nutrition. As you know, the disastrous 1990s food pyramid, that was on foundational research from Harvard University from the head of nutrition at Harvard University, directly paid for by sugar.

You know, leads up to today, NIH funded it's called the food compass. They hailed it as the most -- most complex and important nutrition study, you know, in modern times.

It says Froot Loops are more nutritious than eggs. And it's by processed food companies. It says Honey Nut Cheerios is more nutritious than organic ground beef.

So that's still looking at -- and you look at it, Coca-Cola and processed food companies spend 11 times more money on basic nutritional research, funding basic nutritional research at universities than the NIAH. And even the NIAH is just a grant-making organization.

And in the case of this food compass, I just mentioned is actually often -- more often than not, funding professors who have other financial incentives to talk of their study.

So really, we need to absolutely, like, again, I'm looking at like PR consultants at Washington. You know, dictate to prominent professors. What they should be finding in their research.

It's pretty unsettling.

GLENN: So how do we fix this? Or what do we trust, as a -- I mean, personally, I think there is some common sense in some people alive today. That say, hey. How about moderation in all things would be a good place to start?

But what do you trust, if there's -- if all of these institutions are blown?

CALLEY: Yeah. So I'll talk -- I think health is a specific area that is impactful to everyone and gives a framework. Let's talk about what happened with health in the past 40 years.

I think the patient has been systematically disempowered and in fear. And, really, by extension the American people. Right?

It's like, don't self-diagnose. Don't trust -- don't question the science. Trust the science.

You know, the American patient has been battered into like not questioning anything, and basically in total fear.

So, you know, the first step, and this is why it's important to get this out there. Is to wake up a little bit. Is to ask -- look around your children's classrooms, look at the fact that most children are obese. You know, as I said, 25 percent have pre-diabetes which used to be called adult onset diabetes.

Look at what's happening to the health of adults.

And just start questioning things a little bit. And question when you see that news article, with the new peer-reviewed study.

And question whether it makes sense that Froot Loops are more healthier than eggs, or beef.

So that is the first part, and I think that is happening. I think we have a lot of people speaking out.

I am encouraged that a lot of folks, nutrition has been an issue on the left. But the right is really waking up, looking at male sperm count plummeting 50 percent in the past 50 years.

GLENN: Do you know what that is caused by? Do you have any idea?

CALLEY: See, I don't think it's very complicated, Glenn. The foundation of the American diet, right now. The foundation is processed grains, which is basically weaponizing whole grains to take the fiber out, which basically makes an immediate sugar impact in the blood. You know, 70 percent of food is processed food, which is the foundation is processed grains.

Seed oils, which is very refined, cheap oil, and added sugar.

Seed oil as a processed grain, didn't exist 100 years ago.

These are new inventions. These are process inventions. And then added sugar really didn't exist until 100 years ago. It's gone up 100X in 100 years.

So really, the foundation of the American diet, has been weaponized to be highly attractive. Highly inflammatory.

And it's just evolutionarily we're not made to -- and we're being gaslit. Right?

Just yesterday, the American Association of Pediatrics, which is a wholly owned subsidiary of pharma that's still a trusted institution.

Said that to combat this obesity that preteens are experiencing, they should get a weekly or monthly injection for the rest of their lives.

This new Big Pharma obesity cure. So it's like, I really think, there's this axis, where food companies have basically weaponized food. Everyone is getting sick.

Everyone is getting overweight. But our trusted medical institutions turn a blind eye. Because there's a trillion dollars spent on stats now, Metformin. You know, all these drugs.

Interestingly, all these things, these drugs are treating, have gone up. Diabetes has gone up. Heart disease. So there's this -- there's this blind eye from the medical system.

So to answer ark question. There's some education. Also public policies. We have some crony capitalist systems.

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I mean, it is -- it is so clear to me, at least. We're talking to Calley Means. He's the cofounder of True Med.

You can follow him at Calley Means, spelled with a C. CalleyMeans.com as well.

It's so clear to me, when you look at us, compared to the rest of the world, something is up with our diet. It is clear. And even common sense tells you, we didn't grow up with peanut allergies. We didn't have gluten-free everything. We've done something really bad to our food and our diet.

CALLEY: Right. Uh-huh.

Yeah. Glenn, and to me, you know -- you know, growing up, as a conservative, you know, considering -- considering not my philosophy. I think -- I think it's good people are waking up on this. Because to me, it's a first order issue. If we care about individual liberty, right?

The most important thing, is the -- is the ability of our brains. And I'm not going to try to get too deep here. But our brain -- diabetes is cellular dysfunction. Literally the cells are advertise functioning. We are basically -- that is the first order issue of like, our human capital. And it's -- it's not just people being overweight. Depression is skyrocketing. Infertility is off the charts.

As I mentioned, the male sperm count. PCOS, leading cause of female fertility is off the charts.

We -- we really are facing, you know, and getting exponentially sicker, fatter, more depressed, and more infertile. And that's a first order issue.

And then you get to the market. And people say, well, we don't want Coke. It's free choice. I'm all for it. I'm a Libertarian.

Let's have people drink Coke. It shouldn't be paid for with tens of billions of dollars of a government program. That's not a free market. That's a rigged system.

GLENN: Correct.

CALLEY: So right now, we have rigged the system. And you do not have a free market. And I think conservatives. Even some very, you know, well-meaning smart conservatives, that I know.

You know, if you even mention taking Coke away from food stamps.

That's patriarchal. No. What's hamming right now. The system is rigged right now. The system is rigged to give a 12-year-old an injection. A Pharma drug. Instead of talking with them. And working with the parents, to get them healthier.

GLENN: You are preaching to the choir. Especially with ESG and everything else.

They are planning on redesigning our food. What food is good for us. What's not.

And it is all fixed. I mean, I can't get conservatives, who are in power, to understand and maybe it's because they're on the take.

That this is not messing with the free market. ESG is messing with the free market.

You've got the government and corporations within designing where they want the world to go. And we're not really offered the choice.

We're being told lies. Fake studies or paid for studies.

And then we're -- then we just find ourselves in this situation. And I think it's getting extraordinarily dangerous.

CALLEY: Absolutely. Absolutely. And you look at Bill Gates being the largest farmer in the country, making processed food. You kind of start going through the -- and it's -- you don't want to be too conspiratorial. But, you know, what is happening to the American people?

And, you know, just to your question of what people do. I think hopefully, people listening to this. And it's been a big awakening for me the last couple of years. In waking up and asking questions. I think there's one actual public policy. And you have to ask with your public policy, what helps people stay healthy?

And I actually think it's a good policy. The FSHSA, which is very underlooked, these tax-free accountants. What these companies are doing. You can actually buy food and exercise, tax-free. Food and exercise is often the best medicine. And most people don't understand it.

You can actually literally qualify food and exercise and other lifestyle, as medicine saves 30, 40 percent with your FSHSA.

GLENN: Holy cow. I didn't -- I'm not aware of that. I'm out of time.

Can I have you back? I would like to do a podcast with you, Calley. Because I think this is vital information. Calley, thank you so much for being on the program.

Cofounder of True Med. Calley Means.

The Globalist Elites' Dystopian Plan for YOUR Future | Glenn Beck Chalkboard Breakdown

There are competing visions for the future of America which are currently in totally different directions. If the globalist elites have their way, the United States will slide into a mass surveillance technocracy where freedoms are eroded and control is fully centralized. Glenn Beck heads to the chalkboard to break down exactly what their goal is and why we need to hold the line against these ominous forces.

Watch the FULL Episode HERE: Dark Future: Uncovering the Great Reset’s TERRIFYING Next Phase

Barack & Michelle tried to END divorce rumors. It DIDN'T go well

Former president Barack Obama recently joined his wife Michelle Obama and her brother on their podcast to finally put the divorce rumors to rest … but it didn’t exactly work. Glenn Beck and Pat Gray review the awkward footage, including a kiss that could compete for “most awkward TV kiss in history.”

Transcript

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GLENN: Now, let me -- let me take you to some place. I think kind of entertaining.

Michelle Obama has a podcast. Who knew?

She does it with her brother. Who knew? It's -- you know, I mean, it's so -- it's a podcast with two brothers. Right?

And -- and it -- they wanted to address the rumors, that they're getting a divorce. And this thing seems so staged.

I want you to -- listen to this awkward exchange on the podcast.

Cut one please.

VOICE: Wait, you guys like each other.

MICHELLE: Oh, yeah. The rumor mill. It's my husband, y'all! Now, don't start.

OBAMA: It's good to be back. It was touch-and-go for a while.

VOICE: It's so nice to have you both in the same room today.

OBAMA: I know. I know.

MICHELLE: I know, because when we aren't, folks things we're divorced. There hasn't been one moment in our marriage, where I thought about quitting my man.

And we've had some really hard times. We've had a lot of fun times. A lot of adventures. And I have become a better person because of the man I'm married to.

VOICE: Okay. Don't make me cry.

PAT: Aw.

GLENN: I believed her. Now, this is just so hokey.

VOICE: And welcome to IMO.

MICHELLE: Get you all teared up. See, but this is why I can't -- see, you can take the hard stuff, but when I start talking about the sweet stuff, you're like, stop. No, I can't do it.

VOICE: I love it. I'm enjoying it.

MICHELLE: But thank you, honey, for being on our show. Thank you for making the time. We had a great --

VOICE: Of course, I've been listening.

PAT: What? No!

GLENN: They're not doing good. They're not doing good.

Okay. And then there was this at the beginning. And some people say, this was very awkward. Some people say, no. It was very nice.

When he walks in the room, he gives her a hug and a kiss. Watch.

Gives her a little peck on the cheek.

PAT: Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

GLENN: Does that --

PAT: Does that look like they're totally into each other?

GLENN: Well, I give my wife a peck on the cheek, if she walks into a room.

PAT: Do you? If you haven't seen her in months and it seems like they haven't, would you kiss her on the cheek? Probably not.

GLENN: No, that's a little different. That would be a little different. But I wouldn't make our first seeing of each other on television.

PAT: Yeah, right, that's true. That's true.

GLENN: But, you know, in listening to the staff talk about this. And they were like, it was a really uncomfortable -- okay.

Well, maybe.

PAT: I think it was a little uncomfortable.

GLENN: It was a little uncomfortable.

It's still, maybe. Maybe.

But I don't think that rivals -- and I can't decide which is the worst, most uncomfortable kiss.

Let me roll you back into the time machine, to Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley. Do you remember this kiss?
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GLENN: He turns away, immediately away from the camera. Because he's like.

PAT: He was about to vomit. Yeah.

GLENN: It was so awkward. When that happened, all of us went, oh, my gosh. He has only kissed little boys. What are we doing? What is happening?

He doesn't like women, what is happening?

And then there's the other one that sticks out in my mind of -- and I'm not sure which is worse. The Lisa Marie or the Tipper in Al Gore.

VOICE: The kiss. The famous exchange during the 2000 democratic convention was to some lovely, to others icky.
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GLENN: That's an ABC reporter. To some lovely, others icky.

And it really was. And it was -- I believe his global warming stuff more than that kiss.
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And you know where I stand on global warming.

That was the most awkward kiss I think ever on television!

PAT: Yeah. It was pretty bad. Pretty bad.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

So when people who are, you know -- these youngsters.

These days. They look at Barack and Michelle. They're like, that was an awkward kiss.

Don't even start with me.

We knew when we were kids, what awkward kisses were like.

PAT: The other awkward thing about that.

She claims, there was not been one moment in their marriage.

Where she's considered reeving him.

GLENN: Yeah.

PAT: She just said a while ago. A month or a year ago, she hated his guts for ten years. She hated it.

GLENN: Yeah. But that doesn't mean you'll give up.

PAT: I guess not. I guess not. Maybe you enjoy being miserable.

I don't know.

GLENN: No. I have to tell you the truth.

My grandmother when I got a divorce, just busted me up forever. I call her up, and I said, on my first marriage.

Grandma, we're getting a divorce.

And my sweet little 80-year-old grandmother, who never said a bad thing in her life said, excuse me?

And I said, what?

We're getting a divorce.

And she said, how dare you.

I said, what's happening. And she said, I really thought you would be the one that would understand. Out of everybody in this family, I thought you would understand.

And I said, what?

And she said, this just -- this just crushed me when she said it.

Do you think your grandfather and I liked each other all these years? I was like, well, yeah.

PAT: Wow.

GLENN: Kind of. And she said, we loved each other. But we didn't always like each other. And there were times that we were so mad at each other.

PAT: Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh.

STU: But we knew one thing: Marriage lasts until death!

PAT: Did she know your first wife?

GLENN: Okay. All right. That's just not necessary.

No, Trump’s tariffs ARE NOT causing inflation

The media is insisting that President Trump's tariffs caused a rise in inflation for June. But Our Republic president Justin Haskins joins Glenn to debunk this theory and present another for where inflation is really coming from.

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GLENN: Justin Haskins is here. He is the president of Our Republic. And the editor-in-chief of stoppingsocialism.com.

He is also the coauthor with me at the Great Reset, Dark Future, and Propaganda War.

So, in other words, I'm saying, he doesn't have a lot of credibility. But he is here to report -- I don't even think you're -- you're -- you were wrong on this, too, with the tariffs. Right?

JUSTIN: Well, at some point, I was wrong about everything.

GLENN: Yeah, right. We are all on the road to being right.

But this is coming as a shock. You called yesterday, and you said, Glenn, I think the tariff thing -- I think the president might be right.

And this is something I told him, if I'm wrong. I will admit that I'm wrong.

But I don't think I'm wrong.

Because this goes against everything the economists have said, forever.

That tariffs don't work.

They increase inflation.

It's going to cost us more.

All of these things. You have been study this now for a while, to come up with the right answer, no matter where it fell.

Tell me what's going on.

JUSTIN: Okay. So the most recent inflation data that came out from the government, shows that in June, prices went up 2.7 percent. In May, they went up 2.4 percent. That's compared to a year prior. And most people are saying, well, this is proof that the tariffs are causing inflation.

GLENN: Wait. That inflation is -- the target is -- the target is two -- I'm sorry.

We're not. I mean, when I was saying, it was going to cause inflation. I thought we could be up to 5 percent.

But, anyway, go ahead.

JUSTIN: So the really incredible thing though. The more you look at the numbers. The more obvious it is, that this does not prove inflation at all.

For starters, these numbers are lower, than what the numbers were in December and January.

Before Trump was president. And before we had any talk of tariffs at all.

So that is a big red flag right at the very beginning. When you dive even deeper into the numbers, what you see is there's all kinds of parts of the Consumer Price Index that tracks specific industries, or kinds of goods and services. That should be showing inflation, if inflation is being caused by tariffs, but isn't.

So, for example, clothing and apparel. Ninety-seven percent, basically.

About 97 percent according to one report, of clothing and apparel comes overseas, imported into the United States.

GLENN: Correct.

JUSTIN: So prices for apparel and clothing should be going up. And they're not going up, according to the data, they're actually going down, compared to what they were a year ago. Same thing is true with new vehicles.

Obviously, there were huge tariffs put on foreign vehicles, not on domestic vehicles. So it's a little bit more mixed.

But new vehicle price are his staying basically flat. They haven't gone up at all. Even though, there's a 25 percent tariff on imported cars and car parts. And then we just look at the overall import prices. You just -- sort of the index. Which the government tracks.

What we're seeing is that prices are basically staying the same, from what they were a year ago.

There's very, very little movement overall.

GLENN: Okay. So wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.

Wait.

Let me just -- let me just make something career.

Somebody is eating the tariffs. And it appears to be the companies that are making these things. Which is what Donald Trump said. And then, the -- you know, the economist always saying, well, they're just going to pass this on in the price.

Well, they have to. They have to get this money some place.

So where are they?

Is it possible they're just doing this right now, to get past. Because they know if they jack up their price, you know, they won't be able to sell anything. What is happening?

How is this money, being coughed up by the companies, and not passed on to the consumer.

JUSTIN: Yeah, it could be happening. I think the most likely scenario, is that they are passing it along to consumers. They're just not passing it along to American consumers.

In other words, they're raising prices elsewhere. To try to protect the competitiveness with the American market. Because the American market is the most important consumer market in the world.

And they probably don't want to piss off Donald Trump either, in jacking up prices. And then potentially having tariffs go up even more, as a punishment for doing that.

Because that's a real option.

And so I think that's what's happening right now.

Now, it's possible, that we are going to see a huge increase in inflation. In six months!

That's entirely possible.

We don't know what's going to happen. But as of right now, all the data is suggesting that recent inflation is not coming from consumer goods being imported, or anything like that.

That's not where the inflation is coming.

Instead, it's coming from housing.

That's part of the CPI at that time.

Housing is the cause of inflation right now.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. It's not housing, is it?

Because the things to make houses is not going through the roof. Pardon the pun. Right?

It's not building.

JUSTIN: No. No. The way the CPI calculates housing is really stupid. They look basically primarily at rent. That's the primary way, they determine housing prices.

GLENN: Okay.

JUSTIN: That so on they're not talking about housing costs to build a new house.

Or housing prices to buy a new house.

They are talking about rent.

And then they try to use rent data, as a way of calculating how much you would have to pay if you owned a house, but you had to rent the same kind of house.

And that's how they come up with this category.

GLENN: Can I ask you a question: Is everybody in Washington, are they all retarded?
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Because I don't. What the hell. Who is coming up with that formula?

JUSTIN: Look. I mean, sort of underlying this whole conversation, as you -- as you and I know, Glenn.

And Pat too. The CPI is a joke to begin with.

GLENN: Right.

JUSTIN: So there's all kinds of problems with this system, to begin with.

I mean, come on!

GLENN: Okay. So because I promised the president, if I was wrong, and I had the data that I was wrong, I would tell him.

Do I have to -- out of all the days to do this.

Do I have to call him today, to do that?

Are we still -- are we still looking at this, going, well, maybe?

JUSTIN: I think there's -- I think there is a really solid argument that you don't need to make the phone call.

GLENN: Oh, thank God. Today is not the day to call Donald Trump. Today is not the day.

Yeah. All right.

JUSTIN: And the reason why is, we need -- we probably do need more data over a longer period of time, to see if corporations are doing something.

In order to try to push these cuts off into the future, for some reason. Maybe in the hopes that the tariffs go down. Or maybe -- you know, it's all sorts of ways, they could play with it, to try to avoid paying those costs today.

It's possible, that's what's going on.

But as of right now, that's not at all, what is happening. As far as I can tell from the data.

GLENN: But isn't the other side of this, because everybody else said, oh. It's not going to pay for anything.

Didn't we last month have the first surplus since, I don't know. Abraham Lincoln.

JUSTIN: Yes. Yes. We did. I don't know how long that surplus will last us.

GLENN: Yeah. But we had one month.

I don't think I've ever heard that before in my lifetime. Hey, United States had a surplus.

JUSTIN: I looked it up.

I think it was like 20 something years ago, was the last time that happened. If I remembered right.

It was 20 something years ago.

So this is incredible, really.

And if it works.

You and I talked about this before.

I actually think there is an argument to be made. That this whole strategy could work, if American manufacturers can dramatically bring down their costs. To produce goods and services.

So that they can be competitive.

And I think that advancements in artificial intelligence. In automation. Is going to open up the door to that being a reality.

And if you listen to the Trump administration talk. People like Howard Lutnick, Secretary of Commerce. They have said, this is the plan.

The plan is, go all in on artificial intelligence.

Automation. That's going to make us competitive with manufacturers overseas. China is already doing that.

They're already automating their factories. They lead the world in automation.

GLENN: Yeah, but they can take half their population, put them up in a plane, and then crash it into the side of the mountain.

They don't care.

What happens to the people that now don't have a job here? How do they afford the clothes that are now much, much cheaper?

JUSTIN: Well, I think the answer to that is, there's going to be significantly more wealth. Trillions of dollars that we send overseas, every year, now in the American economy. And that's going to go into other things. It's not as though -- when this technology comes along, it is not as though people lose their jobs, and that's it. People sit on their couch forever.

The real danger here is not that new markets will not arrive in that situation. And jobs with it. The problem is: I think there's a real opportunity here. And I think this is going to be the fight of the next election, potentially. Presidential election. And going forward.

Next, ten, 20 years. This is going to be a huge issue. Democrats are going to have the opportunity, when the AI revolution goes into full force. They will have the opportunity like they've never had before.

To say, you know what, we'll take care of you. Don't worry about it.

We're just going to take all of the corporate money and all of the rich people's money.

And we will print trillions of dollars more. And you can sit on your couch forever. And we will just pay you. Because this whole system is rigged, and it's unfair, and you don't have a job anymore because of AI. And there's nothing you can do. You can't compete with AI. AI is smarter than you.

You have no hope.

I think that's coming, and it is going to be really hard for free market people to fight back against that.

GLENN: Yes.

Well, I tend to agree with you.

Because the -- you know, I thought about this.

I war gamed this, probably in 2006.

I'm thinking, okay.

If -- if the tech is going to grow and grow and grow. And they will start being -- they will be responsible for taking the jobs.

They won't be real on popular.

So they will need some people that will allow them to stay in business, and to protect them.

So they're going to need to be in with the politicians.

And if the politicians are overseeing the -- the decrease of jobs, they're going to need the -- the PR arm of things like social media. And what it can be done.

What can be done now.

I was thinking, at the time. Google can do.

But they need each other.

They must have one another. And unless we have a stronger foundation, and a very clear direction, and I will tell you. The president disagrees with me on this.

I said, he's going to be remembered as the transformational AI president.

And he said, I think you're wrong on that.

And I don't think I am.

This -- this -- this time period is going to be remembered for transformation.

And he is transforming the world. But the one that will make the lasting difference will be power and AI.

Agree with that or disagree?

JUSTIN: 1,000 percent. 1,000 percent. This is by far the most important thing that is happening in his administration in the long run. You're projecting out ten, 20, 30 years ago years.

They will be talking about this moment in history, a thousand years from now. Like, that will -- and they will -- and if America becomes the epicenter of this new technology, they will be talking about it, a thousand years from now, about how Americans were the ones that really developed this.

That they're the ones that promoted it, that they're the ones that does took advantage of it.
That's why this AI race with China is so important that we win it.

It's one of the reasons why. And I do think it's a defining moment for his presidency. Of course, the problem with all of this is AI could kill us all. You have to weigh that in.

GLENN: Yeah. Right. Right.

Well, we hope you're wrong on that one.

And I'm wrong on it as well. Justin, thank you so much.

Thank you for giving me the out, where I don't have to call him today. But I might have to call him soon. Thanks, Justin. I appreciate it.

The ONLY Trump/Epstein Files Theories That Make Sense | Glenn TV | Ep 445

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