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YouTube has demonetized comedian Russell Brand's account after allegations dropped that he sexually assaulted and raped multiple women. The BBC has also announced an internal review of Brand's time at the network and is "urgently looking into" issues raised in a Channel 4 documentary on Brand. Glenn points out the apparent hypocrisy of the outlet, which had no problem paying Brand, despite his alleged behavior — which he has denied — being an "open secret," according to one accuser. Plus, Glenn and Stu discuss how disturbing the companies' quick reactions have been, given that Brand hasn't even been charged with or convicted of anything yet. If YouTube can demonetize someone for accusations of "off-platform behavior" from over a decade ago, Glenn says, then "we live in Salem Witch Trial times."
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: So Russell Brand, is in trouble.
Now, here's something -- I want to read this, from the BBC.
From the BBC. Russell Brand resurfaced clips, give a sobering reminder of noughties culture.
The noughties are the noughts, you know. As the 00s of the early -- of the early century.
The early part of the -- the zeros. The noughties. We're being very noughty right now.
From BBC. The noughties aren't so long ago, that it's possible to dismiss them as a different age. There are parts of the decade that British culture would rather forget.
Russell Brand was at the center of a messy celebrity scene of the 2000s that now feels like the cool Britannia Party gone sour.
The recent allegations against the comedian, and resurfaced clips of things he said and did on the air and on stage, have provided a sobering reminder of the seedier side of the pop and media culture in that decade.
Okay. All right.
First of all, Russell Brand is kind of like their Howard Stern. Okay. Okay.
You didn't know exactly what you were getting in those days with Russell Brand. Okay?
Just think Howard Stern. Now, it's provided a sobering reminder of the seedier side of pop media culture in that decade.
Could I just ask the BBC to turn on the radio and listen to the lyrics of songs, they're now playing. Because I guarantee, there's something playing on the BBC about somebody's butt doing something.
Among the claims. Now, listen to this. Resurfaced clips is what this is all about.
Among the claims in channel four's recent dispatched investigation. Into the star. There was a clip from his BBC radio two show in 2004, that seemed to have gone largely unnoticed at the time.
In it Brand interviewed Jimmy Savile. Now, Jimmy Savile was a big, big radio host.
You know, the --
STU: Top of the pops, right?
GLENN: Top of the pops. Everybody loved Jimmy salve I will.
They found out, he's a child predator.
And was molesting kids, in the hospital, while he was visiting. Review, but nobody knows this.
At the time.
Among claims Channel 4's recent dispatches, shows him on BBC, in 2007.
In it, Brand interviewed Jimmy Savile and apparently offered up his very attractive assistant to go meet him naked.
Sound like Howard Stern?
GLENN: Okay. This is in 2007, he said this to the BBC host, of.
Of top of the pops. Another BBC host said, you go ahead and take my assistant here. She'll go get naked. Funny. He said, naughty word. Naughty. Get it?
Okay. When did they expose, so to speak, Jimmy Savile, being a child predator? When was that, Stu?
GLENN: 2012. So something that went unnoticed, in 2007.
STU: Because no one knew about the accusation.
GLENN: No one knew about this. Okay.
While the clip was from before salve I will had been exposed as a serial sexual predator, it scarcely believed now that it was broadcast Britain's biggest radio station.
You know, wait a minute. Hang on just a second. Not that Russell Brand said that. That's not really the problem, BBC. The problem is you hired that guy and held him up as a hero for decades on the BBC.
There are several clips of Brand pushing the line between outrageous and offensive stuff that were used in the Channel 4 documentary on a Saturday.
They're doing an exposé, on what they aired twenty years ago, and making Russell Brand into the bad guy.
You aired it. You aired it. It's like Westwood 1, coming in and saying, let me tell you something.
I want to show you some videotape, of what Howard Stern was doing.
Yeah. Because you were paying him to do it.
How is that a problem for him, and not you?
I don't know. It's crazy.
STU: Ask they actually are sort of doing that to Stern right now. There are definitely people out there looking for --
GLENN: Looking. You spent five minutes, and you could find it. Of course.
STU: Just over the September 11th, you know, anniversary. Happened to stumble upon this Howard Stern Show, from September 11th.
STU: It is a different era. The -- the -- the difference in -- as that's going on. They're watching buildings in realtime. It's a fascinating thing to watch from a historical perspective. But the anger on the show, and the way that they were talking. The words they were saying.
The things that came out of their mouths.
It was --
GLENN: Were they singing songs about doing things with people's butts?
STU: They were not.
They were doing that right before the planes actually hit the building.
But it was interesting to hear the occasion -- Robin Quivers, who was ready to nuke the entire Middle East.
It was like -- it was pretty interesting to watch. You go back and watch those shows. Look, it was a different time.
You're going to judge these by today's standards. That's always dumb.
It's always dumb to go back to a previous era, and judge it by today's standards. It's always dumb to do that.
And it does seem to be what everyone wants to do.
GLENN: Well, I just can't take the employer, doing a documentary on how outrageous he was. And how he should be stoned to death, at the time they were paying him to do those things. I mean, that takes quite the balls.
STU: Well, and the BBC in particular, is in the Russell Brand situation, is specifically accused. Like, they are --
GLENN: They were --
STU: They were saying, they were helping it along. That's the accusation.
GLENN: Like listening to a documentary on BBC.
STU: Right. Like they were sending cars to pick up the girls that were 16 years old for Russell Brand.
GLENN: Which, by the way, was not illegal at the time.
It sounds horrible, but it wasn't illegal at the time.
STU: And no one was saying it was illegal. Not necessarily the best --
GLENN: Now, why is this all happening to him? Why? Why? Why?
STU: It's a good question.
I think there's a very obvious answer to it.
GLENN: Go ahead.
STU: Well, when he was famous and married to Katy Perry and doing all this, there was no news of these accusations. He was known as a bad guy. Right? Like a very promiscuous guy. To his own telling. He was addicted to drugs. He was addicted to alcohol. He was addicted to sex.
GLENN: Has a changed all of that.
STU: He's changed all of that. And has become a commentator who has been skeptical of some of the things you're not allowed to be skeptical of, like COVID. Climate change. ESG standards.
GLENN: Yeah. And the World Economic Forum is his biggest thing.
STU: Now he's been --
GLENN: Now he's being targeted for that.
STU: Look, of course, you would agree, if he committed horrible crimes against people, he should be punished for them, even if he has reformed his character.
He still is held responsible for crimes.
GLENN: Yes. Yes.
STU: But this does not seem to be what's -- it may not be what's going on.
GLENN: We have a hard time in this culture. Where we just make accusations, and we destroy people.
GLENN: Now, listen, Russell Brand has now been demonetized by YouTube.
Now, what does that mean?
Russell Brand makes his money on his YouTube videos. Okay?
So they have just demonetized him.
So they won't sell or give him any money for what he's doing.
The BBC said it removed some programs featuring him from its streaming services.
So they were still paying for the guy.
Now, it looks like YouTube is doing the same, because the quote from YouTube is absolutely amazing.
Where is it? Where is it? Brand took his online social media platforms. Saying it was a coordinated attack.
Yes, it was. They said that now. I can't find the exact quote.
STU: While you're looking for that. Can we talk about quickly what the line is here?
Because there is a process that goes on.
When you're going to be convicted of a crime. And that begins with an accusation. Then comes that investigation.
Then comes a charge, filed against you.
Then comes a conviction, that comes a sentence. Right?
Why can't these companies just draw a line? Like make a line. What's the line?
A charge. Right? If someone gets criminally charged with something, we're going to pull them off of our service.
GLENN: Is that fair?
STU: I don't know. I think --
GLENN: We used to believe it was a conviction.
STU: That's where I would go. If you're convicted of a crime. Even if you might say you're innocent, we have to have some way of sorting this out. That's what our legal system is for.
GLENN: And if you want to do that. If you want to take it off early, just pay the person. Pay the person. So you don't destroy their life.
STU: The NFL, you're under contract. And someone comes up with an accusation, and they think they need to pull you off. They pull you out. They put you on the commissioner's suspended list. But you're still getting paid. Because, look, there's no conviction.
Nothing has been proven. If you're proven in a court of law to be guilty of a crime, It makes sense. That is the line, probably.
Instead, what it is, if someone accuses you -- now, of course, people have been saying bad things about Russell Brand for a very long time.
He's been saying bad things about himself, for a very, very long time. All the money that was coming through was fine. Until this news story had been written.
He was not charged with a crime. Let alone convicted of one.
He may be charged and convicted later.
But he hasn't been yet.
He said his relationships were always consensual.
He was accused of rape and sexual assault between 2006 and 2013.
He denies the claims. Was any -- were any charges filed?
Did anybody go to the police at the time? Anything.
Anything. He says, no.
I don't want to judge, because I don't know the man. We're not in a courtroom.
But here's what YouTube said. You ready for this standard, Stu?
See if this is -- if this is a little earlier than conviction.
If a creator's off platform behavior harms our users, our employees, or ecosystem, we take action.
Now, I don't know how his off-platform behavior in 2006.
GLENN: Yeah. Harmed your users, employees, or ecosystem.
What they're saying is, if somebody calls in our ecosystem, and says, I can't believe you guys are doing this. I'm not going to advertise. Or I'm not going to provide that chair for your conference room. I'm not going to do it. Because you will keep him up. That harms the ecosystem, and they can take action. This is -- we live in the Salem witch trial tames.
STU: It's true, though.
And, you know what, though. I can understand how these companies react this way.
Going back to your book, Dark Future. And the Great Reset.
And then great example of this is Twitter. You know, you go to use Twitter or whatever the heck they're calling it this week.
And, I mean, if I get another ad for Cheech and Chong gummies. Like every one of their ads are just trash. Because there's no companies on there anymore. They've all just left. Because Elon Musk said, you're allowed to speak freely. So all the companies just left. I mean, he himself is saying, that revenue is down 80 percent.
GLENN: And he himself is being charged with crimes that are not crimes. He's charged with not hiring new migrants that don't have green cards, don't have anything.
That is the DOJ and the Pentagon's rule for a rocket company!
There's an alleged Ukrainian "kill list" going around that includes the names of American journalists and reporters like Tucker Carlson, Glenn Greenwald, and Human Events' Jack Posobiec, as well as Elon Musk. But Glenn isn't sure whether to be relieved or disappointed that he isn't on the list. However, it makes him ask, if this is at all associated with the Ukrainian government, why are we sending them a DIME of our tax dollars? Glenn and Stu also debate whether transgender American Sarah Ashton-Cirillo, who claims to be a spokesperson for the Ukrainian military, is for real. Ashton-Cirillo has also called for the punishment of journalists who won't tow the Ukrainian line.
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STU: So you're not on a kill list?
GLENN: Good. Good. I'm not on a kill list.
STU: That's advertise appointing.
You're losing your touch. If you're on a kill list, I mean, I've seen them. You're not on the new kill list.
GLENN: No. I'm not on a new kill list.
And the new one has just put, you know, a friend of the program, from human events, Jack Posobiec. He's on the kill list now.
And the kill list has targeted Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, and Glenn Greenwald. When I saw Glenn, in the article. I'm like, oh, dear. And I saw Greenwald. And I was like, well, wait a minute. I wasn't even nominated. And this list is called the peacemaker.
Now, when you hear the peacemaker, you think, oh. It's peaceful.
No. It calls for a retribution against perceived enemies of Ukraine.
And positive Sobic, is -- is pointed out. He's an anti-Ukrainian propagandist and provocateur.
Is he's going to be killed. Or at least, that's what they're threatening.
And I love the fact that we're sending money over to a country, that is developing kill lists for Americans.
STU: Now. This is not an official government document, I assume.
GLENN: This is -- let me see here.
This is -- this is -- this is from the guy who is -- you know, the woman. Who pretends he's a woman.
Who is an American. Here, let me -- let me just play. Have you seen. You have seen the new he/she, that is now -- hmm? What?
STU: The spokesperson for Ukraine?
I don't believe this. Can I come out and just formerly say?
GLENN: Come out?
STU: Not that way. Formerly say, I don't think this is real.
GLENN: It is real.
STU: We've checked it. And, no. This is really the Ukraine spokesperson, who happens to be a trans person.
GLENN: Yeah. That's an American.
STU: An American.
GLENN: That went over to Ukraine. Was in the army.
STU: I just don't believe it.
GLENN: Fighting. And then pulled from the front lines.
STU: That part, I believe. That part --
GLENN: From the front lines.
And then put in the propaganda of -- and ministry of information.
STU: I just don't believe it's true. It can't be true.
GLENN: If you're watching us on Blaze TV. This is worth the price of ignition for the month, okay? You're welcome.
We're giving you the bonus by showing you the video of this. Watch.
VOICE: Russia hates the truth. But their excessive focus on the Ukrainian volunteer, is simply allowing the light of the Ukrainian nation's honesty to shine brightly.
GLENN: Can we just stop for a second?
STU: Come on. This can't be real.
GLENN: Let me tell you something, I'm going to give Russia such a hit. In a minute. I'm going to finish this. And then I'm going to slap him across the face. All of Russia. I'm going to do it. And I'm going to look beautiful while I'm doing it. Go ahead.
VOICE: The teeth of the Russia devas will gnash ever harder.
STU: Come on.
VOICE: Uncontrollable frenzy.
GLENN: Stop. Stop.
STU: Seriously, there's -- this can't be real. It can't be real.
GLENN: Their rabid mouth are going to froth.
STU: They're foam.
GLENN: They're going to. It's -- they're foaming.
STU: They're going to foam. Is that what's happening?
GLENN: They're rabid dogs. And they're going to gnash their teeth. One.
STU: It's legitimately impossible this is real.
GLENN: This is real.
STU: How can --
GLENN: Stu, how can anything today be real?
Do you --
STU: This is a country that didn't even allow gay marriage.
They're not -- this is not a progressive --
GLENN: This is aimed to America.
STU: I know. But come on. First of all, it's aimed to America. It doesn't make any sense. They would -- they found a -- none of it makes sense. It makes more sense to me. That Russia is producing this. Specifically, to try to make Ukraine look bad.
That makes more sense.
GLENN: This is where the kill list is coming from. Okay. This is the kill list. It's coming from that department right there. Now, go ahead, he was talking about the uncontrollable frenzy.
STU: The one you were also -- the frothing.
VOICE: Uncontrollable frenzy. As the world will see their favorite Kremlin propagandist paying for their crimes. And this puppet of Putin, is only the first. Russia's war propagandist will all be hunted down. And justice will be served. As we in Ukraine are led on this mission by faith in God, liberty, and complete liberation.
GLENN: Okay. I just have to -- I just want to point out, we are led by God.
And even though the Ukrainian people don't believe in transgenderism at all because of God. I'm their spokesperson. And because we are led by God, we will hunt down these people who disagree with us, and kill them.
I mean, it is hard to believe.
Tell me. And I've had quite a weekend.
Tell me what you believe. Tell me what you believe in. Right now!
Tell me you can tell me the difference between truth and fiction on any topic!
STU: I mean, I can't.
GLENN: No. I can't either.
STU: I can't. I've seen this has been confirmed by all these media sources, and I still don't believe it. You ever get a story like that. No. I won't believe it. I don't care how many times. I won't believe it. That's where I am on this one.
GLENN: I am on that, just about everything now. I look at everything. And I'm like, I don't know what to believe. I don't know who to believe.
I came in yesterday, and I looked at Stu and I said, I don't know what to believe. Who am I to get a radio and say, you know what, this is the truth. I have no idea.
STU: It's a very strange world.
GLENN: Well, just the guy in the dress. So the hair --
STU: And the guy in the dress with the hair, is the guy who made the kill list?
GLENN: Well, I don't know if he made it himself. He might have been doing his nails or something else.
STU: Who made the kill list?
GLENN: Well, it's coming from him.
STU: He's saying that Tucker Carlson, and Jack Posobiec, are on the kill list.
GLENN: Yeah. I was trying to rope him in.
Look how easily he just called him he. You are mis-gendered.
STU: Oh, oh.
GLENN: Cut two of the spokesperson.
STU: Oh, more?
GLENN: There has been much discussion in this entire role, within the armed forces of Ukraine.
Senator Vance recently asked the US director of national intelligence, along with the secretaries of state and defense, if I was working in some capacity for the American government.
VOICE: Simply put, I'm an American, serving as a Ukrainian infantry soldier and a combat medic.
Who is brought from this, and assigned to the TDF's media team in the dual role of spokesperson and Russian disinformation analyst.
The remaining speculation surrounding me is disappointing.
Why in Ukraine, we're fighting for global liberty, and the ideology of victory.
Too many in Moscow and across the world are still caught up and focusing on the tired trope of gender chaos.
GLENN: Stop. Stop.
STU: Stop for a second.
People who are critical of gender ideology. Use the term gender chaos.
GLENN: That's what he said. They're using the old tired trope of gender -- what did you say? Chaos.
STU: Chaos. Yeah.
GLENN: He's saying that's an old tired trope.
Like, they're focused on the old tired trope of gender chaos.
There is no chaos here!
It will all make sense. Give me that cigarette. I'm just going to have a cigarette right now.
STU: Highly suspicious.
GLENN: I'm going to kill you. I'm going to kill you.
STU: Senator Vance, a good question to ask, I would say.
Because there's two things that would make sense here, sort of.
One, like, there's someone in our government saying, you know what, sure, we'll give you these billions of dollars.
One of the conditions is, yeah, you have to appoint us a spokesperson.
Someone in the LGBTQQIA2+ community to show your tolerance. That's believable. That's believable.
GLENN: You're telling me, there isn't somebody, that you find this too hard to believe. That there's somebody like, you know who we could get rid of?
We could get rid of all these people.
You can't do that. You can't do that. No? We could put a guy that is pretending to be a woman, that everybody is dismissing. And give them whole bunches of money. And they could come and kill people.
I mean, I'm not saying that's happening.
But I'm not, not saying that either. Because I don't know what's happening anymore.
STU: There could be a trading places thing. Where like there's a couple of people. All the people with monocles, who are like, what if we made them have a transgendered person, come out as their spokesperson.
GLENN: By the way, J.D. Vance is going to be joining us in ten minutes.
STU: He is? Let's ask him about this. Because I don't believe it.
GLENN: No. We shouldn't ask him about this.
STU: I would like to know. That's not why he's coming, is it?
GLENN: No. He's coming auto about other things. My first question is, tell me about the dude in the dress. With the kill list. Why are we giving them money?
If this is from the Ukrainian ministry of whatever, why are we giving them money?
STU: Well, if it's an official document, anyone associated with it, should immediately be fired.
And we should who would money until that happens, right?
But these are American citizens we're talking about.
GLENN: I'm so tired of you just blabbing. I'm still listening to the spokesperson, go ahead.
VOICE: Ukraine is a nation that embraces individual liberty, and maintains that devotion to God. The freedom that Ukraine is fighting for, is not based on carving out privilege, but creating a pathway of prosperity and success, founded in hard work and the rule of law for all.
Neither I, nor any Ukrainians, fighting for tolerance, acceptance, for any one group. But for the freedom of every human.
GLENN: Oh, is that very --
STU: Come on.
I would like to say, yeah, there is something off here. But that's fairly obvious. But what I would say is that, I think --
GLENN: Yeah, you think.
STU: I don't think this is real. I don't think it's real.
GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. Well --
STU: Isn't there something that --
GLENN: I will put you on my list. Not on my kill list.
Because you're not that important, but my slap across the face list. If I ever see you walking across the street. Slapping you. I will slap and slap and slap you, until you're silly.
STU: You should not be on the Ukraine list.
You have been very fair on your coverage, right?
GLENN: Well, we did go in and rescue children. I mean, other than that.
STU: There you go.
You shouldn't be a kill list.
STU: You've helped rescue people in need.
GLENN: Yeah. But I do think the government is completely corrupt.
I don't think we should be spending money there. And I also don't want to be -- you know, in any war, sending planes or anything, really.
Anymore.over to Ukraine. I --
STU: There's some risk associated with such things.
GLENN: Well, it's only nuclear annihilation.
STU: Right. That's the risk I was talking about.
GLENN: Yeah, that's the only risk.
So I think that's probably we should -- I think it's enough. I think it's enough.
STU: So you're saying, just the nuclear annihilation is enough, to not send over the --
GLENN: It is. It is for me.
They're saying, you know, we might be in a nuclear war. Our president is not too well. And he will have about ten minutes to make the decision, whether to fire or not.
And I'm -- I'm just -- I'm out on a limb here in today's crazy world. But I'm saying, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
And I could put on a wig, if it would make more sense to you. But I don't think we should do it. Uh-huh.
STU: Now, doesn't Biden have a speech at the UN?
So I'm sure, that will -- that will ease any of your concerns. Because he'll knock that one out of the park.
And will know, okay. He's got a really good vision. He has it all under control.
GLENN: Sure. And Zelinsky is there too. Zelinsky is meeting.
STU: Maybe come out, as a woman for the speech.
I mean, that seems to be a very effective tactic.
GLENN: Let me tell you something, I wouldn't be surprised.
STU: We would all be told, we should accept it. And it wasn't anything different than normal. And if you notice it, you're a bad person.
And even more.
GLENN: She's the most beautiful president I've ever seen. She is --
STU: The first female president, by the way.
GLENN: First female president. And the most beautiful person I've ever seen.
STU: And if you disagree with that.
GLENN: And if you're like, it's Joe Biden in lipstick.
STU: No. No. No, it's not. No, it's not. You've mis-gendered that, Joe Biden.
GLENN: And we'll put you on a kill list,
Over the weekend, many NFL fans were shocked to see an incredibly frightening and evil-looking trailer for "The Exorcist: Believer" that played during the games. Is anything on TV family friendly anymore, Glenn asks? Because plenty of young children saw this ad while watching the games with their families. Glenn and Stu discuss how innocence has more or less disappeared from the entertainment world. Before, we had Disney and sports. But now, is there anything left that parents can let their kids watch without needing to monitor every second of it?
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STU: Oh, now it's starting to sound interesting. I will say, can I -- on the horror movie thing. You said you watched some football this weekend. Watched some of the Chiefs. Jaguar's game. Is that what you did, at some point?
GLENN: No. But my son talked to me about it.
STU: You didn't actually watch it. But you listened to your son.
A lot of these -- I don't know. I have kids right in that age of -- you know, they don't watch.
I don't have them watching all sorts of horror movies. Or, you know, like -- keeping them pretty much away from that. And people are saying, hey. You're keeping your kid in a bubble.
Look at this world. I want this bubble to be thicker. That's what I want.
GLENN: It's not a bubble. It's more of an actual wall.
STU: Yes. I built the wall.
I'm doing it as long as possible. My belief is, I remember this growing up.
And as you get older, you have plenty of time to do all the really bad things that the world offers.
GLENN: Oh, no, there's nobody there to nag you or stop you.
STU: No. You can do whatever you want.
So he will have plenty of time. My daughter will have plenty of time to do all the terrible things that the world offers. But for right now, I would like to keep them away from that.
And they're still young enough, in which, they're watching a horror movie.
They can get stared. I don't know what time --
GLENN: Sure. Twenty-four and 21.
STU: But like, seriously, I don't know. I remember moments from my childhood.
It seemed like moments from a Stephen King movie, and being terrified for weeks.
GLENN: Oh -- oh, I know what you're going to talk about.
STU: You do?
GLENN: Yes! Because I watched the Cowboys game.
STU: Yeah, right!
But they are running an advertisement for some exorcist sequel in the middle of these games.
GLENN: That looks scary as heck.
STU: That looks freaking terrifying. And like, as a dad, who knows, who will be the guy getting up in the middle of the night, if my kids are terrified about this.
Can you make it? I don't know, 80 percent less terrifying?
There's just like --
GLENN: Oh, my gosh. I saw it. I saw it.
I saw it like every commercial break.
STU: Yeah. Yeah.
GLENN: And I'm watching. What is happening? What is happening?
I thought, at first, because I was only half watching.
I thought this has to be a parody of something.
STU: Because you've seen Exorcist in such a -- it's been done so many times.
GLENN: Right. Everyone is like, no.
Hold on. I mean, I remember the exorcist.
I remember. I've been -- I never saw it. I -- you know, after I -- you know, after I moved out of my parent's house. Then I saw a little bit of it. But I never watched the whole thing.
I watched 15 minutes. And I'm like, I cannot watch this movie.
My sister went. She snuck out of the husband.
She was 16. She snuck out with her friends. Because this isn't the time when everyone was vomiting in the theaters and everything else. And she's like, I've got to see this. Then she comes at night. And she's too afraid to sleep in her own bed. So I have bunk beds. She sleeps in the bottom bunks for like a month. And every night, she tells me about it. And I'm like, I -- I'm like seven.
Mom, I'm afraid. What are you afraid of?
Demons. Why are you afraid of demons?
Not because they went to the exorcist, and told me all about it.
STU: You're the big brother, I can see.
Really, it's terrifying.
STU: Especially because we live in a world, in which basically the only thing you can safely allow your kids to watch are sports.
Like, everything else is terrible.
The Disney Channel has become terrible.
STU: Right? For your kids.
So you can put them in front of sports, mostly.
And most of the time, it's okay. And then -- but then occasionally, there will be a commercial, in which the devil's hand comes out of the screen. And grasps their throat. That's all.
And it's like, can you -- I don't know. Sentiment.
GLENN: There used to be an unwritten rule. First, I think it was an unwritten rule.
Then it was a written rule. The family hour. When the family is watching something together, can we make it something the family can watch together?
STU: Yeah. Yeah.
Now, again, if you're up in the fourth quarter. And it's 11 o'clock at night on a Sunday night game, Monday night game.
You know, I understand, you might have different rules there. But the NFL, how much money did they make?
How -- I mean, billions and billions and billions of dollars.
The networks all of the top-rated shows for the entire year, are NFL games.
GLENN: Do you expect us -- do you expect us to turn down money?
STU: Yes! No. I am not even asking you to have a standard.
GLENN: I'm willing to pay. What, my politics aren't good enough for you?
STU: Just take the money to somebody else. Take it from some other -- put cigarettes back on television.
GLENN: Oh, they're so much better than I am.
Wait. Do you even have a Satan button over there, do you?
GLENN: No. I don't know what are you're talking about.
STU: So that's all we're asking.
GLENN: Just don't scare the crap out of the children.
Quite honestly, and me.
I could see that face, in my head right now.
I don't want to see that face. I don't want to see that face. My gosh, Sara, look, think of that face.
Now look at Stu. Very similar.
STU: Very similar. Yes.
GLENN: And may I just say, you should brush your teeth occasionally.
STU: Occasionally. I think that big fluoride is already in the water.
GLENN: Toothbrushes are evil.
Former president Donald Trump's interviews with Megyn Kelly and NBC News turned a lot of heads over the weekend. On NBC News, Trump condemned fellow presidential candidate Gov. Ron DeSantis' Florida heartbeat bill as a "terrible mistake," while also supporting some limits on abortion. And on The Megyn Kelly Show, he addressed the growing transgender trend and whether or not men can become women. @MegynKelly joins Glenn to discuss how Trump's answers may affect his 2024 campaign, whether he's already looking ahead to the general election and trying to appeal to independents, and whether this strategy will work. Plus, they discuss whether President Biden will be the Democratic 2024 candidate, or if the Left is already trying to oust him: "You can feel the ground shifting."
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: Hello, Megyn, how are you?
MEGYN: Hi, I'm well.
How are you doing?
GLENN: I'm very good.
So your interview, and the interview that the president did on MSNBC are getting a lot of play over the weekend. Because in some -- in some places, he seemed to be hedging his bet. And on MSNBC,he talked about a 15-week limit on abortions.
MEGYN: Yeah. Well, he -- this is one of the reasons why President Trump needs to put himself out there more.
Because just like president HEP it's not okay for either one of these leading candidates on the Dem or the GOP side stay underground. So to his credit, Trump is putting himself out there. Much more than Joe Biden.
But we absolutely need to be probing their positions, as the American public tries to make a decision.
And Trump on the social issue, with all due credit for the Supreme Court justices he got has always been a little wishy-washy.
He lived pretty much 75 easier. Seventy-three. Whatever it is, before he became president.
As a Democrat. You know, one of my debate questions for him back in 2017, was when do you become a Republican?
If you look back, he's been much, much of a Democrat. And more liberal on social issues. Like virtually everyone in New York is.
And I think there's a fair amount of that in him.
GLENN: So is this -- for instance, let me play a clip you with. Where he was talking about, can a man become pregnant?
VOICE: Can a man become a woman?
DONALD: In my opinion, can a man become a woman. I think -- I think part of it is birth. Can the man give birth? No. No. Although, they'll come up with some answer to that also.
I heard just the other day, they have a way that now the man can give birth. No. I would say that I'm continuing my stance on that.
GLENN: So what did -- what was your takeaway? Because he never really answered it. But he did shake his head no. Towards the beginning.
What's your takeaway from that?
MEGYN: Well, I thought it was weak sauce. I really wish he -- he did better on that. I like Ron DeSantis' answer, I'll be honest.
Which is no. No. No.
TOM: And it's not determined based on who can give birth. It's determined by God.
And it's pretty obvious, just as soon as you come out of the womb. That's the way -- that's the way he seems to not being painting this weird agenda by some activist in this crazy trans agenda-pushing cult.
So Trump clearly knows that. I don't know if he has -- maybe trying to appease some group of trans voters. That he thinks will make the difference with him.
Even when I had Don Jr on my show, he was kind of dancing around this issue.
I -- I think that they think, they somehow will do better with Democrats. If they don't hit this straight-on.
Even though, I mean, 98 percent of the Republican Party is united on this issue.
This is not a winner for any Republican to hedge on this.
Just ask Asa Hutchinson. So I'm not sure what he's thinking. I feel like this, and the abortion thing. He must be thinking more general elections, where there are Democrats, who don't feel as Republicans do.
But I really think, there's a small voting group on this particular issue, he needs a better answer. And I hope he gets it.
GLENN: So do you think this will shape the tree at all?
I mean, I think he looks at the poll numbers. And thinks theres -- I mean, I'm going to win. So why not start a moderate campaign now?
Because I'm going to win the -- the primary.
So let's just get past that. And start being, you know, more moderate to appeal to a wider audience. Than just the Republicans. You think that will work?
MEGYN: I don't. I mean, I'm in much more of the Ann Coulter thinking, it comes to who the party should nominate.
I think they should nominate someone who will drive turnout. And generally with Republicans, that means someone who is conservative. Who is genuinely conservative.
Look what happened with John McCain. Okay? They've tried to go more moderate.
It doesn't work. Now, Trump does tracking turnout. Because he's Trump. And there's something about that. His constituency finds more appealing. And, you know, that 30 percent, isn't going to abandon him. Even if it comes out with abortion in the 9th month, I mean, that's a really -- that's really the question. Not whether he can choose something on HEP Fifth Avenue. For Trump to say, he's preabortion, ninth month. And still hold on to that four, 30 percent. Glenn, I think the answer is yes.
And he's almost toying with that experiment right now. He's now pro abortion. He's really more banking on the fact, that he appointed the three justices, and made a difference on Roe v. Wade. And he won't lose any Republican voters to Joe Biden, on the issue of abortion. Right?
He's playing the long game. But he does need to generate enthusiasm.
And he's already tamped down. Not in the first set of Republicans. But in the other half, who are tepid on Trump.
GLENN: So let me ask you about Joe Biden here for a second.
Because I've started to see, for instance, there's an article in the Washington Post, from a big -- a big player. On the left. And in the editorial, he said, you know, I love Joe Biden. And he's done great things.
And nothing against anything he's ever done. But I think it's time for him to go.
And I think that you see the supporters, and the -- the key members, possibly starting to move in and saying, you know, Joe, I think maybe you should go.
Do you think that he is the candidate? By the time we get to the -- the election.
MEGYN: I don't know, Glenn. I'm seeing what you're seeing.
It seems like there's a movement underfoot to gently oust him and her. That's what was interesting about it. In wacko.
Which is, we don't want to be stuck with her.
But, you know, live by the sword, die by the sword.
They selected her for identity politics reasons, and good luck subbing her out. And subbing in some other person, like Gavin Newsom.
You know, who doesn't check the right boxes. And even who does check the right boxes, Sunny Hopkins, woke identity politics warrior on The View was saying.
If he subs out Kamala Harris, he will lose the black vote. We're not interchangeable, even if he puts back in a black woman.
Anyway, you can feel the ground shifting.
CNN is doing a long fact-check on Biden.
I, last Thursday, have never seen them unleash their Daniel Gale HEP guy on Biden. That was always a Trump thing.
Now more and more sort of getting interested in just how old President Biden is. And polling heavily on that.
The results are disastrous.
The nation's piece. There's been example after example of how they seem to be realize with whom, you know what, he can't do it. (?) we're going to lose, if we stick with him.
But I also think, you have to ask revelings, how do you get rid of it?
You know, I think there's some fantasy that Barack Obama can do it. You know, give the tap on the shoulder. Like you get at the dance. Time to sit down. Your dancing is over.
I'm not sure.
GLENN: Well, it's exact --
MEGYN: What man voluntarily walks away from power like that?
GLENN: Well, voluntarily, George Washington. But remember that Nixon did that.
and Nixon only did it,when he realized, the party (?) was no longer with him.
When all of the people he counted acon, to help support him, were turning on him.
And that's when he decided to resign. There's a good way to do this.
And there's the tough way. And we're offering you the chance to make this your idea.
And what -- I think part of the pressure, might be the Hunter Biden scandal.
When you saw the -- the charges, last week.
Are these real, or are these bogus too?
MEGYN: The gun charges? Oops, I mean, they are real. (?) and any of us would have been charged with it. So okay.
But, of course, they were brought very reluctantly, by a guy who is on his side.
David Weiss, the US attorney for tell wear. Is on hunter apps side. (?) for six years.
Who let the MS damning charges might do the statute of limitations.
(?) even though hunter's lawyers offered what's called a toggle agreement. They offered to extend the statute of limitations. And tasted Weiss said, no. That's okay.
This is his prosecutor, so we're supposed to believe he's going to be tough on Hunter. BS. It was a figure life charge on only (?) a lot of people think, won't even hold you up. This gun statute has been deemed unconstitutional under the Second Amendment. So it's possible they can go in. (?) to most Republicans.
But kind of a low stakes matter.
Let's say. Let's say he gets convicted. Which he probably will. Some are saying, this is a smart move by the Republicans.
Because at least now, Unterand Joe have real skin in the game.
He could potentially face real jail time.
And maybe it gives (?) power of just a moment ago gibel for Hunter. (?) you'll pardon him. While announcing you're just a one-termer.
You can give your son a apart. Keep him out of jail. Save the Democratic Party. You'll be on Mount Rushmore. (?), you know what, if that's the price it takes to get him out of this. Let's do it.
GLENN: So be as tough on this as you can be.
When you see the left saying, there's no evidence. There's no evidence.
They've got no evidence.
There's plenty of evidence. I don't know if that all adds up to, you know, proof.
But there's tons of evidence. If you are standing in a court of law.
Because that's what is what you used to do. And your client was Joe Biden. And Hunter Biden.
And you saw the evidence that the prosecution has shown already. And they say there's more. How would you assess your chance of winning?
MEGYN: It would just depend on the he have dentiary (?) 51 percent more likely. And 49 percent are not.
He's guilty. If it's I don't understand a reasonable doubt, I would acquit him. So far. So far.
That's only because we haven't gotten all the bank records. Which they're about to get. It's more than 51 percent likely he did this.
I would put him more up in the '60s. If you're talking about conviction of a crime. Not there yet.
GLENN: Yeah. And what do the bank records. What are you looking for, in the bank records. What do they have to show?
MEGYN: Well, I would want to see the actual deposits of men. In Joe Biden's numerically convict him of a cranium. (?), but we have Peter Schweizer on the show on Friday. He, of course, is a Hunter expert.
He makes interesting points about how -- in order to show bribery. In order to show corruption, you don't need it show any (?) showing the deposits into Hunter Biden's account is enough. Not to mention the other eight family members on the tape.
GLENN: Correct. Correct.
MEGYN: The benefit the to the family member is sufficient.
This (?) kind of brings me back to the (?) I almost feel like, Republicans are overstating their own burden.
You know, it's -- it doesn't need -- I realize why they're doing the impeachment. I'm actually in favor of it. But it doesn't need to go that route.
And they don't need to allege crimes. The corruption is there, plane as the nose on your face. I want (?) one -- one honest journalist, just one. With access to President Biden.
To get him in an interview, and say, how dare you allow your son, to sit on the board of Burisma.
Ukraine and company, being investigated for corruption. When you were the point man on the Obama bludgeon cleanlyup in Ukraine.
How dare you.
Is that not disqualifying to your ongoing role as public official? Go ahead.
GLENN: I think it is.
We're not going to see that. But I think it is. I would love to see that.
I would go a step further. As a father, you knew who Kolomoisky was.
He's a brutal killer. Beheads his opponents.
And you took your son -- you knew had a drug problem. And drinking problem.
And could easily be roped into anything.
And you allowed him to sit on -- on that board, with that man?
Are you out of your mind?
MEGYN: Right. When he was drug addled. Looking back on the time line of hunter's addiction.
I actually (?) in preparation for my show today.
So he joined the board of Burisma in April 2014.
That same year, he was discharged from the Navy reserve, after testing positive for cocaine right? That same year, when he joined the boards. Which Joe knows all of this. This is while his father was overseeing US politics in Ukraine.
By May of 15th, he had a relapse of his alcohol attack. By 2016, he had a relapse of his crack cocaine addiction.
And this is all while he's doing business with -- with the Chinese in these while he's on the board of Burisma.
MEGYN: Which his father knows, because he's religion calling into the hunter business meetings.
He knows, his crack addled son is sitting on the board, cashing checks. And he's just (?) facilitating it. I mean, at a minimum, this counteracts the narrative of, what a great dad he is.
GLENN: I agree. I agree.
Megyn, thank you very much. We look forward to your program.
You can catch Megyn Kelly, wherever you get your podcast.
She also follows this show on Sirius XM. Thank you so much.
MEGYN: Thank you, Glenn.