RADIOSeptember 30, 2024

Why this IRS whistleblower is SUING Hunter Biden’s attorney

When IRS investigator-turned-whistleblower Gary Shapley accused the IRS of covering up Hunter Biden’s tax crimes, he knew the path forward wouldn’t be easy. While he says he has “no regrets,” he joins Glenn to explain why he and his fellow whistleblower Joseph Ziegler filed a $20 million defamation lawsuit against Hunter Biden’s attorney, Abbe Lowell, for defamation. Shapley is joined by Empower Oversight President, who has worked to protect whistleblowers.

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GLENN: So for people who think maybe bad guys don't ever pay for their crimes.

Good guys never win. You remember the IRS whistle-blowers, that blew the whistle on Hunter Biden's tax crimes. These are the guys, who said, wait. There's something going on. We were told not to look into it. They slow walked it, et cetera, et cetera.

Well, they were smeared and really destroyed. And one of the guys is -- is pretty amazing.

He's -- he's known throughout the world. This is an IRS agent. Known throughout the world for his work on global tax enforcement. He was selected to create a new international organization called the Joint Chiefs of Global Tax Enforcement.

He's a supervisory special agent of the International Tax and Financial Crimes Group.

Where he leads 12 elite special agents who are subject matter experts in complex international tax and other related financial crimes.

The guy has -- I mean, he started his career as AmeriCorps volunteer. That he went to work for the Defense Department. Then Intel. Then he joined the IRS and criminal investigations. He's out to get the bad guys. He joins us now.

Welcome, Gary Shapley. How are you?

GARY: Very good. Thanks for having me, Glenn. I appreciate it.

GLENN: Oh, yeah. Thank you for your courage. For speaking out. Thank you for doing the right thing.

I also want to bring in Tristan Leavitt. Tristan is a guy who worked with Chuck Grassley, trying to help all the whistle-blowers.

He helped expose Operation Fast and Furious.

And a lot of different things. And is really strong on protecting the whistle-blowers. They are so important.

Tristan, welcome.

TRISTAN: Thank you so much, Glenn.

GLENN: So where do we start, Gary, because you are now suing Hunter Biden, and you are suing them for, what? $20 million?

GARY: To be clear, where the alleged defamation is against Abbe Lowell, the attorney for Hunter Biden.

And, yeah, the amount is 10 million for me, and also Joe Ziegler, for a total of 20 million, yes.

GLENN: So what do you claim they did?

GARY: So the complaint alleges that -- that Mr. Lowell defamed us, and it was part of an overall smear campaign, to attack both Joe Ziegler and I, for coming forward, following the law, going to Congress, and disclosing the preferential treatment that his client was receiving by the Department of Justice.

And, you know, our disclosures weren't -- weren't -- even though Hunter Biden was the topic.

Our disclosures were against the malfeasance in the Department of Justice.

FBI and IRS. So it's really interesting, that it was this third party, that came in. And became the -- you know, as we allege in our complaint, the main defamer and smearer, of both Joe Ziegler and I.

GLENN: So Tristan, that is not uncommon, though. Is it? You're a whistle-blower.

They attack whistle-blowers now like there's no tomorrow.

TRISTAN: Yeah. That's exactly right. I testified yesterday -- or, I guess two days ago, in front of the -- and there are three of our FBI clients that had been with us in the past, and one was with me again. And it's very, very common for us, to be lied about and defamed. That's part of why we want to create consequences for that.

We started. We are supporting. We are funding this lawsuit, that Gary and Joe are bringing in Abbe Lowell in our organization, of how our oversight, who I'm the president of.

And we want to, you know, hold people accountable. We want to do it in other cases.

Because we just think there's never any consequences for people just lying with impunity. They just get away with it.

And so we want to fight back, and that's not something you see happen a lot.

So that's why we want to raise money from the public. You know, we have this website, the FederalWhistleblowers.com, to build up this fund, precisely for suits like this. Where Gary and Joe, were just trying to do the right thing. And they went to Congress to do what was right. But, again, as so often happens, they were lied about. But in their case, it can have real consequences for their careers.

GLENN: I will tell you, I saw -- I saw one of the whistle-blowers, Marcus Allen, with the FBI. That guy seemed like he was dirt strong.

In -- you know, standing up for the right thing.

But he looks like he had been dragged the lie.

And just -- just punched repeatedly in the gut.

It was -- it was amazing to watch him. These whistle-blowers are really, truly, the best of America.

TRISTAN: Yeah. I sat right next to him, as he gave that statement the other day, as I testified there also. And he is, unlike some of the other whistle-blowers that testified with us, a year and some change ago, he's not been on social media.

He's just been holding it in, so we could get his pay reinstated.

And get his security clearance back.

He's finally through all of that. This was his real -- the first time people saw it. Just everything he's been through.

GLENN: It's horrible.

So what are the odds of -- I mean, what are you fighting against?

They are going to fight you with everything they have and lots of money.

Law firms do not want this one to win.

TRISTAN: Yeah. That's absolutely right.

Yeah. The real thing that Gary and Joe. They can share this.

But they're not suing for the more than in any way, right? Yes. It's a 20 million defamation suit. The point of this is that they -- as alleged in the complaint. It's not right for someone like Abbie Lowell, who is well-known, well-identified as a really big name.

A really big litigator. He represented Jared and Ivanka Trump even. But for him to go. If he goes on TV and says, these guys broke the law by sharing their tax information with Congress. Lots of people believe it.

And even Mitch Langberg, who is a defamation attorney who is representing our -- our defamation expert on our legal team, who was one of the foremost experts in the country. You know, without having a background. He said my general impression of these guys breaking the law.

Until he studied the case. And read what we shared.

And said, wow. We haven't been treated fairly here.

We want to educate the public. To know that these guys did not only the right thing. But they did it in the right way.

GLENN: So, Gary, did you at all have conversations amongst yourself of. Should we do this?

You know what will happen to us? Did you have that conversation?

GARY: Well, overall. Right? People say, why did you come forward?

And it really wasn't a choice for me. just my conscience wouldn't allow me to sit there, knowing -- knowing what I know. And seeing what was going to happen in this case. So, I mean, of course, we talked about the -- the risks, but at the same time, unfortunately -- you know, fortunately, for the American people, unfortunately for me personally, you know, the risks were real. And many of them are coming through fruition through retaliation by my employer, IRS, and the Department of Justice against me.

So I went in with my eyes wide open. And, you know, I have no regrets. I feel like we've been vindicated by -- you went from charges that weren't even going to be charged. That even before the -- the generous plea deal fell apart, where he was going to have to plead guilty to two misdemeanors. You know, they were going to give him a deferred prosecution agreement.

And when we were coming forward, you know, DOJ and David Weiss, knew they were coming forward.

He said, no, no, no. That's not going to work out. So we will have to make him plead guilty.

Of course, the judge had the amicus brief from Congress. They included our testimony. They voted out, and made public.

And, you know, that information made it pretty clear that -- that Hunter Biden was receiving that preferential treatment.

Once again, the Department of Justice and IRS here.

That is the one that engaged in -- in the conduct, in which we blew the whistle again.

So, you know, I have no regrets. And I hope the American people have confidence in -- in the IRS. And of government employees, because of what Joe and I did.

GLENN: Here's what I would like you to do. If you are -- if you have $5. There is nothing better than -- than cleaning out this rat's nest. Of liars. And thieves.

In our Justice Department. In really, in all throughout the government.

They have to be taught a lesson.

And unless we do it from the outside, the inside is never going to punish itself.

And I would urge you to go to Empowr. E-M-P-O-W-R.us. And if you can, make a donation. This thing is going to cost a lot of money.

But we have to have the best lawyers on it. We have to have the strongest case possible.

Otherwise, this continues over and over and over again, and good people are destroyed.

So please, go to Empowr. E-M-P-O-W-R. No E there, dot.us. And give, if you can.

Thank you so much, guys.

Appreciate it.

TRISTAN: Thank you, Glenn. Appreciate it.

GLENN: You bet. Buh-bye. Let me just play this whistle-blower.

So this guy is the guy that Tristan was just talking about, that he sat next to.

I don't know if you saw this. But he's an FBI agent. Who was a whistle-blower.

Life destroyed.

Hasn't said anything publicly. Until the other day.

And listen to what he said.

It's cut three.

VOICE: I've considered the hearing today, my last act of service as a public servant for the United States of America. And I'll give you my professional opinion.

I was an Intel professional for our country, for many years.

And I would give recommendations. And also indications and warnings.

Soiled offer this to the American people, as my warning to them.

This is a warning, the American people, I say, you personally have no confidence, that the FBI will reign in its own conduct.

I have been persecuted along with Garrett. Steve and Kyle. And countless other whistle-blowers. It is my opinion, that the bureau used reprisal and fear to control the workforce.

It has been a seemingly effective tactic. I personally believe that there are no current effective checks and balances against them, conducting lawless action with any type of correction in a legitimate time frame.

GLENN: Wow.

VOICE: I welcome the work of the IG. But I think any type of lawless action, there is no legitimate time frame to rein them back in. Their ability to overclassify information, to allow them to stonewall forever.

To the American people, you have a duty as a citizen to vote. And I strongly urge you to do so.

It's how you participate in the American experience. I know people have doubts about election integrity. But you must vote it as your claim.

Stake your claim, and don't forfeit it willingly.

Have your voice heard. My other recommendations are in the natural order.

First vote. Is the Second Amendment. Arm yourself, and know how to defend yourself. Make three to four friends in your neighborhood. And promise to come to people's mutual aid in times of hardship. And during the great depression. People stocked up a pantry.

So I think that's a good practice, especially in our economic times, and make sure you have three to four months of food. As a person of faith, I would say, pray the rosary.

Go to the first Friday devotions. That's for everybody. All my brothers and sisters of all faiths. And I know I'm Catholic. And read the gospel of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. And live it every day.

And that's all I have to say, thank you for the time.

GLENN: Do you hear how his voice is shaking?

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: This is -- how do people dismiss that warning? That is -- I mean, we are living in unprecedented times.

And I tweeted that out, the other day. I should retweet it now.

These guys are so brave. And you can tell they are -- they are not playing politics. Listen to that warning, and share it with your friends.

Ron DeSantis gives FEMA a MASTER CLASS with Hurricane Milton response

Hurricane Milton has hit Florida, thankfully as a Category 3 storm instead of a Category 5. But unlike what happened in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene, it looks like Florida will have rescue and recovery efforts under control. Glenn reviews Governor Ron DeSantis' promise that under his watch, Florida won't see the embarrassing FEMA response that North Carolina did. “When there is no leadership, the people perish," Glenn warns. But DeSantis has shown what a true leader can do. Glenn also reviews a prediction he made years ago on Fox News that is coming true this election season.

Transcript

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GLENN: Well, let me just say this. I don't know about you. But I was listening to DeSantis.

Let me see if we have the longer version of Ron DeSantis.

Giving the -- I don't have it. Giving the update, right before the hurricane hit.

It was pretty remarkable. Let's actually start on cut 13. As he's talking about looters and criminals.

VOICE: This is not going to be an opportunity, for folks to take advantage of people.

If you think you're going to go in and loot, you have another thing coming. If you think you're going to be able to go into somebody's house after this storm passes, if you think that you're going to be able to commit crimes, you're going to get in really serious trouble. And, quite frankly, you don't know what's behind that door in a Second Amendment state stop do not try to take advantage of people who are suffering because of the results of this storm. That goes for Helene, continually. But then, of course, that will be the case for Milton. I know we've already brought a lot of people. Held people accountable in post-Helene.

We will be very swift across all levels of government, to throw the book at people. And, of course, when you make these bad decisions. You're opening yourself up from property owners who may be inside that house.

GLENN: Did you hear what he just said? He is saying, justice will be served. It will be swift. But most importantly, we're the second responder.

The people behind that door, have a right to defend themselves and their stuff, so don't do it. That's an empowering leader.

That's somebody -- you know, we wouldn't have all of these -- these -- what? Conspiracy theories. All this. What are they calling it?

Disinformation.

It is not disinformation.

It's confusion, a lot of it. Confusion from what you've said and what you've done.

And then trying to explain in our own heads, what the hell is FEMA doing?

That's where it comes from. A lack of leadership.

When there -- when there is no leadership, the people perish.

That's exactly what's happening.

Notice, Florida has a strong leader, and they don't have this problem.

Here's what he said about FEMA now. Listen to this.

Cut three.

VOICE: Now, people have asked me about, is FEMA going to do this? Just let me be clear in Florida. We run the show. FEMA is not running the show.

We will utilize them to support some of the things we are doing.

But you are not going to see FEMA running amok in Florida. I know that's been out there on the internet. That is not going to happen.

I'm the sheriff that is in charge here. And we will make sure that we protect you. Don't worry about it.

GLENN: Okay. How can he say those things?

Well, he can say those things, because he's already you proven them to be true.

He's already taken before, when he was -- before he said that, he said, we have linemen from all over the country.

Already lined up, ready to dispatch, wherever the storm takes ground. Okay?

So he was telling people, we have this in place. This in place. This in place.

And we've seen this now three times with him, on major hurricanes.

So the people don't have to fear. What they were fearing in other states, was FEMA. And so what does he say?

And how could he possibly tell the federal government, mind their own business?

Because he's a believer in the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights does not have any FEMA in it. The Constitution doesn't have FEMA in it.

That's a very nice thing to keep the government safe. But it's want their responsibility. It is the responsibility of the state government.

Everything not mentioned in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, that power all is -- resides at the state level, and with the individuals of each state.

So what he's saying here is, you're right.

You're not going to have a problem with FEMA here.

Because I'm running the show, as constitutionally mandated. I'm running the show. And we're not going any of that nonsense down here.

Look at the difference between a strong governor, somebody who knows the Constitution, is not doing what they did during COVID and saying, hey. I'm just going to take power. No, no, no.

Everything he's doing is constitutional.

When you have a strong governor in California, you had a nonconstitutional strong man. That's the difference between a strong man and a strong Constitutional leader.

And notice where there's chaos, and where there's none.

Will somebody please recognize on the left, that what's happening in Florida, is remarkable?

That this is the way constitutional republics behave. This is the duty of a good governor.

These are all the hallmarks of a really well-run state.

He even addressed yesterday, the -- the vote.

Don't worry, we're already working on it.

If there's a problem, we will make sure that everyone's voice is heard, for the election. The guy is on top of absolutely everything. And then, the local sheriffs take care of the rest.

As they're giving the -- the speeches on take shelter. Get out of town.

Here's what the Flagler County sheriff, Rick Staly said. Listen to this. Cut --

VOICE: Anyone who comes in, we will be checking to make sure that they're not a fugitive and not a sex offender. If you are a predator, you are not allowed at the shelter. If you are a designated under Florida law as a sex predator and you need shelter, you need to go to the sheriff at Perry Hall, and the detention facility. That's the county jail on Justice Lane, and we will accommodate you in the lobby of that building.

You've probably seen that before, I would guess.

GLENN: So what did he just say?

Despite what anyone on the left might say, at some point. Oh, my gosh. He was taking sex predators, and saying, you couldn't come to the shelter. No. No.

I believe God's house is a house of order. There is no chaos with God. Look at the difference between this and the border.

What's the difference?

Our border is chaotic. It's out of control.

Here he is, in a crisis situation, and what is he saying?

Everyone must take shelter. However, when you're going into these family shelters, if you're a predator, we will be checking everyone's papers.

Kind of like what we should be doing at the border.

We have no problem with you, if you need to take shelter, or you want to do it the right way.

But if you're a predator, we're going to take to check your papers.

If you are a predator, we know you're a human being, but you can't be with the families in the mix. Because you've proven yourself to society, that you are not trustworthy. So you need to report here, we'll be taking you to a detainment center, where you'll be safe. And our families will be safe.

Do you see the difference, when law and order and the Constitution is actually in play?

This is what -- I almost called him Ronald Reagan. This is what Donald Trump is -- is talking about.

We have to return to law and order. Constitutional law and order.

I did a show on Fox years ago, about the pendulum. Do you remember that pendulum show I did on Fox, Stu, by any chance?

And I showed how it swings left and right.

But it's actually not left and right. It's the we and the me. Those are the two ends.

When we go too far in the me direction, you get the 1980s. Me, me, me, me.

And everything is about me.

And I only care about my wealth.

And I don't care about anybody else. Okay? That's the -- that's the zenith of the me. Those are dangerous for people's souls. But those times are not usually dangerous for countries or civilizations. Because you can't gather a group of people, to say, yeah. Let's go get them.

Because it's all about the individual. Okay?

Everybody is like hurting. I mean, go ahead. Try to whip up all of the Libertarians in the country, to go and vote for one person.

Good luck with that. Okay?

The other side is extraordinarily dangerous.

It is the we. We're currently at the zenith of the we. It's starting to come back. That's. You feel it. It's an 80-year cycle. Okay?

From point to return. We are now at the end of that cycle, of the we. Those are dangerous. The last one we had was during World War II. The time before that, was the Civil War. The time before that, was the American Revolution.

So you have this cycle, that keeps cycling through. The problem is: And this is what I said on Fox. Is at some point, if you weaken society enough, you'll get a strong man dictator. And I said, at the time, could be from either side.

But somebody who will grab the pendulum, and say, we're not moving from here. Because what we have to do is too important and the ends justify the means.

It stops the pendulum from naturally swinging back the other direction. And we're right.

For about a 30, 40-year period. Maybe 20-year period. In the middle.

Okay? When it's perfectly balanced between me and we. That's when we're in the safest zone.

Where are we right now? Everybody, both sides, are worried the next guy could be a dictator.

Why is that?

Because we have crushed our underpinnings which are the Constitution.

Ron DeSantis, they want to call him a Nazi and a dictator. He's not demonstrating dictatorial tendencies here.

What he's doing is living exactly by the Constitution. You can have law and order, and the Constitution.

Anybody who says we need, you know, extra, nonconstitutional powers.

Or they want to change the Constitution because things are so crazy.

You're seeing how wrong that is, by watching Ron DeSantis.

By the way, one is saying, that we need to do stuff like this. The other slogan is. We will not go back.

We asked “60 Minutes” why they CHANGED Kamala’s answer on Israel

CBS News’ “60 Minutes” recently aired an interview with Vice President Kamala Harris about her 2024 presidential run. But keen-eyed social media users noticed that “60 Minutes” edited down her answer about Israel to cut out all the rambling and make her sound more coherent. However, it wasn’t just a simple edit. They appear to have copy-pasted an answer from another question! Glenn’s team reached out to CBS News for clarification, but has yet to receive a response. So, Glenn reviews what happened and how it appears to fit a growing trend: Kamala Harris is suddenly doing more interviews, but they’re more like propaganda pieces! Just this week, she had a beer with Stephen Colbert and was introduced as “the next president” by The View. But at least she answered one question honestly during that interview …

Transcript

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GLENN: Okay. So yesterday, president Trump's campaign insisted that 60 Minutes. CBS News released an unedited transcript. They must release an unedited transcript, of vice president Kamala Harris' entire 60 Minutes interview.

Now, this came after her word salad about Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was cut from Monday's broadcast.

And it looks as though, it was a cut and paste job.

The dramatic edit was made after 60 Minutes correspondent, Bill Whitaker noted that it seems like Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening.

So her response to Monday night's show, was completely different. And far more coherent, than her rambling answer showcased in the preview clip that was released on Saturday.

So we wrote to 60 Minutes. We gave them until 9 o'clock Eastern to respond. We said, we want to give you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you edited the clip down for time.

As often happens, in these pretaped interviews, but we looked into it for ourselves.

And sure enough, the answer she originally gave, and then CBS aired on Face the Nation, doesn't match what made it into their final edit of 60 Minutes, and it wasn't due to time.

Listen, here's her original answer.

VOICE: Does the US have no sway over Prime Minister Netanyahu?

VOICE: The aid that we have given Israel, allowed Israel to defend itself, against 200 ballistic missiles, that were just meant to attack the Israelis and the people of Israel.

And when we think about the threat that Hamas, Hezbollah presents, Iran.

I think that it is without any question, our imperative to do what we can, to allow Israel to defend itself against those kinds of attacks.

Now, the work that we do diplomatically. With the leadership of Israel. Is an ongoing pursuit, around making clear, our principles. Which include the need for humanitarian aid. The need for this war to end.

The need for a deal to be done, which would release the hostages. And -- and create a cease-fire.

And we're not going to stop, in terms of putting that pressure on Israel, and in the region.

Including Arab leaders.

VOICE: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening.

KAMALA: Well, Bill, the work that we have done, has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel, that were very much prompted by -- or a result of many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.

GLENN: What? What does that -- okay.

STU: Huh.

GLENN: Now, here's what it sounds like, on air.

With their totally unbiased editing magic marker, a day later.

VOICE: Does the US have no sway over Prime Minister Netanyahu?

KAMALA: The work that we do diplomatically with the leadership of Israel, is an ongoing pursuit.

Around making clear our principles.

VOICE: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening.

KAMALA: We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the United States to be clear about where we stand on the need for this war to end.

GLENN: Wow!

STU: That's from a different part of the interview.

VOICE: -- ally in Prime Minister Netanyahu?

KAMALA: I think with all due respect, the better question is, do we have an important alliance between the American people and the Israeli people?

And the answer to that is yes.

GLENN: Sound more coherent? Sound more certain. Sound more presidential.

Yes! That answer, by the way, Stu was right. Is from a different part of the interview.

What we ask 60 Minutes to explain, their apparent in kind contribution to the Harris campaign. We said, greetings. An X user noticed severe edits to VP Harris' answer to the 60 Minutes interview regarding Netanyahu from the time the clip aired on Face the Nation to the final export yesterday.

That we attached both the edited and unedited.

It doesn't appear to be edited for time. Rather, a cut and paste answer from a different question.

Can you provide an explanation to the Glenn Beck Program and Blaze news, as to why this edit was made?

There are claims of bias and selective edits to makes Vice President Harris' answer appear more coherent. Our deadline is 9:00 a.m. Eastern tomorrow. We have not received, surprise, surprise, a response, from CBS News.

So are you getting anything, that is real?

Well, JD Harris pointed out. Or J.D. Vance pointed out yesterday, that, yeah. You -- you did get an honest answer from The View. Listen to what he said.

VOICE: But she walks into The View, and you would think that would be an interview. And you think that would be an easy question.

Really, propaganda. They said, can you name a single thing, where you disagree with Joe Biden?

Now, let's back up for a second. Because remember, Kamala Harris' entire campaign is to pretend that she hasn't been the vice president for the past three and a half years. You know, she stands up before crowds. And she will say on day one.

We will tackle the affordability crisis. On take one, we will secure the border. And you listen to her for five minutes. And you think, Kamala, are you going to vote for Donald Trump? Because you've been president for 1400 days. You haven't done anything.

(applauding)
So you think, after all this time, all this time, of thinking about how she would do things differently from Joe Biden.

She would have a well-prepared answer, for the interviewers on The View.

Well, they ask her one thing you would do differently from Joe Biden. You know what she says? I can't really think of anything off the top of my head.

GLENN: Wow.

VOICE: Now, in her defense, I'm not sure she could think of anything off the top of her head, whether about Joe Biden's policies or anything else.

GLENN: That is an incredible statement, that she made.

Now, Brian Stelter, who strangely is back on CNN.

STU: Yeah. Yeah.

GLENN: Said that he called The View, before she went on. Here's what he said. Cut two.

VOICE: She's also on The View tomorrow, talking to producers of The View last night.

They have some sharp questions for her as well. And let's remember, sometimes it's these non-traditional formats, that actually reveal a lot about a candidate.

GLENN: Uh-huh. So here is the View introducing Kamala.

VOICE: Please, welcome back the next president of the United States.
(applauding)

GLENN: Very sharp.

STU: Oh, yeah. Very sharp question.

GLENN: Very, very sharp.

STU: I will say, I agree with Stelter on that point though.

Oftentimes, it's not some big adversarial interview, where you get these good moments. I mean, this is the best moment of any of the things she's done so far. The thing that J.D. Vance was just highlighting.

Her admitting that, which is a massive strength for her campaign.

So far, she's been able to avoid responsibility, for Joe Biden.

And the fact that she just threw that out there, with no exceptions.

I mean, I don't know.

I think partially because she feels like she's in a safe zone.

She's able to kind of just let down her hair a little bit.

And blurt out things that are really helpful to her opponent.

GLENN: But can I ask. She's. Most of America is not in a safe zone right now.

I mean, you have the results of one hurricane. And another one, coming tonight.

Massive. Could be one of the biggest ones that has hit Tampa, in Florida. Of all time!

And she's last night, on Steven Colbert.

STU: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: Drinking a beer with him. Listen to this.

GLENN: But elections are won on vibes.

They just want someone they can have a beer with.

GLENN: Would you like to have a beer with me, so I can tell people what that's like?

This was. Now, we asked ahead of time. I can't just be able to drink to the vice president of the United States. You asked for Miller High Life.

I'm just curious.

KAMALA: Okay. The last time I had beer was at a baseball game with Doug. Okay. Cheers.

VOICE: There you go.

There she is. Cheers for drinking a beer.

VOICE: It tastes like the city of Milwaukee.

KAMALA: The champagne of beers.
VOICE: There you go.

STU: How pathetic. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Like she's picking her beers based on swing states?

GLENN: Right. Right. Right.

STU: It's like, give me a break.

GLENN: But I really like that small brewery, right there in Nevada, and another one really in Arizona is very, very good.

STU: Don't sleep on Georgia and North Carolina.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: Yeah. No. It's pretty pathetic.

GLENN: So what is -- you said this earlier.

What is the strategy change?

Why is it that she's suddenly doing all these interviews?

I think it is because they know they're in trouble.

I think there's been a shift in the polls.

And so she is doing all of these television shows, all friendly.

STU: Uh-huh. Not all -- well, yeah.

Look, there are -- nothing adversarial. You could argue 60 Minutes should be at least is a mainstream normal candidate type environment.

GLENN: Until they edit it.

STU: Until they edit it.

She did face the nation, I think too. Over the weekend. And then she did, of course, the podcast. She's done now the late night shows.

She did The View. She's going everywhere.

This is a massive change in strategy. They have been running this campaign for two or three months. The exact same way.

Keep her out of -- off TV. Just keep her on script, in front of an audience.

Get her in and out. Never have her face a question. The strategy was clear, for multiple months.

Now, all of a sudden, she's everywhere?

That is a massive change. This is a huge development in the campaign.

GLENN: So my gut would say, that the hurricane has changed an awful lot.

STU: Okay.

GLENN: But I'm not sure.

I haven't watched. I have been so busy, all over, everywhere.

I haven't watched mainstream media.

Are they even covering?

Or are they just debunking. Saying. No. FEMA is everywhere.

These are crazy Trump supporters that are saying that. Is there any -- is there any peek behind the curtain, from the mainstream media?

STU: My impression is that they are covering the hurricane. And what's happening to people.

But they are not associating it with a bad response for Kamala Harris.

Or Joe Biden, or anybody else.

I haven't seen that type of coverage. Outside of conservative media.

But they are covering it.

I don't think they're hiding.

I have seen a lot of coverage about it. I had some theories about it. Run them by you.

You pick one. You kind of already selected one. Let me give it to you already. Why has Kamala Harris, all of a sudden, on TV, all the time, doing interviews everywhere?

One, could be public pressure finally getting to the campaign. We've been talking about it for months. Why isn't she doing interviews?

Why isn't she doing interviews? She's even being asked in the occasional interviews that she does, why aren't you out there anymore?

Maybe that finally got to her campaign. Possibility one.

Possibility two. Could be a planned shift in strategy.

Could be that she said, at the outset of this campaign. Let's wait. Let me get up to speed. On all these things.

She wasn't planning on doing a million interviews.

Maybe she's slow walking it.

And doing a blitz in the last month.

It was a planned change in -- change in strategy from the beginning of the campaign.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: Possibility number three.

Could be Kamala Harris.

Frustration behind the scenes. Now pushing back against her handlers.

We have seen this. We saw it with Joe Biden. Of course, it was the same strategy with Joe Biden, no. Don't go out there. Don't do anything. He was behind the scenes saying, I can do it. You're not letting me go out there. You're not letting Joe be Joe. And he pushed himself out there.

And, of course, wound up blowing up his campaign.

Could be the same type of thing from Kamala. She may be thinking, you're restraining me.

That's why I'm not winning by more.

Number four, could be that they're looking at internal polls and indicators. And thinking to themselves.

We're in real trouble here.

Something has changed in the past couple of weeks.

Maybe it's the hurricane. Maybe it's something else. We're in real trouble.

Another possibility.

I mean, I'm just kind of throwing these things out there.

GLENN: I've got one for you.

STU: Okay. You've got another one?

GLENN: Maybe the polls are so good. They don't care. They're internal polling.

Now, I don't believe that.

STU: You think it's so -- why would you change strategies, if things were so good?

GLENN: Because I agree with the one, you know, she's like, look, I could be winning by a large margin. You're restraining me.

STU: So kind of the sister of that one. Yeah.

GLENN: And they think they're safe. So why not?

I don't believe that. But that is another possibility.

STU: Another possibility for you, pressure from donors.

You know, maybe donors are like, look, we're not giving you more money, until you actually go out there and get your message out there. We think it's important. That does happen with donors sometimes. It's kind of like, you see this in foreign countries, when there's a war going on.

There's a bunch of people who are kind of pressuring the administration to do X, Y, and Z. Could be the donors are coming to the table. Hey, you're not blowing them out. Because you're sitting back there. And everyone knows you're hiding.

GLENN: Could be. Let me get your answer on this, here in just a second.

First, let me tell you about the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.

It has been a year since the October 7th mask in Israel. By Hamas. One year since 1200 Israelis were murdered.

And more than 250 were taken hostage.

Did you see that Hezbollah is now saying, okay. Okay. Okay.

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I mean, they are fighting to win. Unlike we have seen anyone do, maybe since World War II.

The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, is there, just purely as humanitarian. And letting the Israeli people know, that we are there.

And we are serving you. They have -- they have built bomb shelters.

They're providing flak jackets for people that are on neighborhood watch.

They're doing everything that they can, to support. Ambulances that are -- are bomb proof.

And bulletproof.

I can't believe you need those. But you do there. Let them know, you stand with them.

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STU: So...

GLENN: Which one do you buy?

STU: The other one I put, the belief is maybe this campaign is actually hurting her.

And I certainly wouldn't select that one.

I think it's probably a combination.

But I do think that, they probably are seeing this, and seeing some internal indicators, thinking that they're seeing the beginning signs of trouble.

They probably are polling on the issue, and saying, and asking the question.

Internally.

Do -- is Kamala. You know, a version of essentially. Is Kamala Harris hiding?

Do you think Kamala Harris is not putting her positions out there?

Is she not speaking enough?

That stuff you can kind of test. And they might see negative reactions on this.

You look at this. You could say, it might be a tick ahead. You could say it's tied.

But they certainly don't believe that it should be tied.

They think Donald Trump is the worst person of all time.

GLENN: Right.

Well, here's another reason.

Here's Kamala Harris on Howard Stern. Listen to this. Cut 22, please.

KAMALA: To your point, I literally lose sleep. And have been over what is at stake in this election. I mean, honestly, I -- I end the day, pretty much every day, these days, asking myself, what can I do more?

STU: You know, there's a lot of reporting from inside the Kamala Harris campaign, about disappointment, that she is not doing more.

That she is not doing a lot of public events. That she is taking days off, all over the place.

Leading up to this campaign. And that also could be fueling this media blitz.

GLENN: Donald Trump is a machine, man.

STU: He's all over the place. And J.D. Vance is all over the place.

GLENN: Everywhere. Everywhere.

I mean, I went to North Carolina, then I went to Kansas City.

And I had to do the show in between all of those.

So I was just not getting much sleep. I was exhausted yesterday.

And I thought, how is Donald Trump holding this schedule for this long? And he's bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. The guy has not slowed down. It's amazing.

STU: It's hard to argue that about Trump.

GLENN: He is a machine. He is a machine.

Sticker Mule CEO explains his GIANT “Vote for Trump” sign in New York

A judge has ruled that the company Sticker Mule can keep its giant “Vote for Trump” sign, which it recently unveiled in Amsterdam, New York. But why did it put the sign up in the first place? Sticker Mule CEO Anthony Constantino joins Glenn to explain the decision, and much of it revolves around free speech. Constantino, who’s still technically a registered Democrat, argues that the modern Democratic Party’s attacks on free speech have gone far enough and Americans are waking up. “Really the best thing for the Democratic party is a massive loss,” he argues. Plus, he reveals who he believes the “biggest villain” in the tech world is, and it’s probably not who you think …

Transcript

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GLENN: I want to tell you a story about a guy up in New York.

He runs a company, called sticker mule.

He's the CEO.

And after a sniper almost took out Donald Trump, he wrote a message to say, I support Donald Trump.

And he called for an end to political hate.

He said, a lot of people support Trump, that I work with. Many support Biden.

And that's -- that's normal.

But we have to stop this hatred.

Well, he started getting death threats, people telling him to kill himself.

Or threatening to kill him. And it got ugly.

It got ugly. He decided to put a sign up. Vote for Trump, on the top of his building.

Now, the city said, it was going to cause problems with people. You know, on the how, because they were going to look. And I guess freak out.

I don't know what the problem was. But he built this sign.

But then kept it covered. Because the city said, he can't have a sign there.

Well, a judge yesterday, said no. He can have a sign there.

He unveiled it last night. In front of a big rally. Just took him a couple of hours, to gather a bunch of people. He turned the sign on. And he have been is upset about it, apparently.

He is with us, now.

Anthony Constantino. Anthony. How are you?

ANTHONY: Hey, wonderful to be here.

GLENN: Yeah. Thank you.

ANTHONY: Actually, I want to say to be honest, I think everyone in love with Biden, two or three people that are upset about it in my hometown. Someone told me the other day, I was talking to a local journalist, and he said, I got to be honest with you. I never saw you unite people, like this. I never seen anyone unite everyone like you did. He said, everybody is on your side. Democrat, Republican.

GLENN: Because.

ANTHONY: The local committee, they all want the sign, because they all know, look, I'm sticking up for free speech and free expression. And I'm trying to end this epidemic that's been bad, really, for both sides.

People have to be comfortable, to say they like President Trump, who did tremendous things for the country. Tremendous things really, for the world.

In his first term. And that's all I'm doing with this sign. People in the local community get it.

Except for two or three people. Mainly. Unfortunately, mainly Democrats who are sadly, you know -- I actually -- I guess -- somebody told me today.

I'm still a registered Democrat. So --

GLENN: Wow.

ANTHONY: Look badly to Democrats. In the direction of being very opposed to free speech.

And I don't follow this closely.

But I'm seeing very horrible things, lately about free speech. Hillary Clinton saying horrible things about not wanting free speech anymore.

Tim Walz saying horrible things about it, as well.

And we all saw what Jack Dorsey did with Twitter. What Mark Zuckerburg did with Facebook during the pandemic. You know, this, I think people don't like this.

And so people in the local community. You know, I haven't seen -- people in the local community are -- I think 99.9 percent of people like it. And, you know, maybe three people, three people --

GLENN: Right. So wait. You were a Democrat.

Have you ever voted for Trump?

ANTHONY: You know, yeah, Trump. I believe was the first Republican I voted for.

GLENN: Really?

And why -- why did you switch? I mean, you still call yourself a Democrat, right?

LARA: Yeah. I'm registered that way. I don't really affiliate. You know, I don't really affiliate with anything, in particular.

You know, I don't like dishonest people. And a friend of mine said, he's not a April had person either.

Really, a very big, strong guys. And this is a battle. Real versus fake.

And he said, Donald Trump is a real authentic person. And these other people are fake.

And, you know, from what I see, there's a lot of dishonesty in politics. I'm not too involved in it.

I'm involved a little bit recently. There's a lot of dishonesty. But Donald Trump is a real, authentic person. He sacrificed. He can do what's right for the country. And, you know, right now, I can see what it's like, myself.

Because the upside down for me, in this whole thing, has been -- very little, other than I made myself very interesting, I guess.

But I've had to deal with a lot. In the situation.

And Donald Trump is doing a lot more than me. Well, I like people that try to make the world a better place. I like people who are honest and authentic.

And I think people don't understand. You have an existing organization, called the US government, and no organization likes when somebody new enters the organization.

GLENN: I know.

ANTHONY: So there was a rebellion.

Your listeners probably understand it. Unfortunately, a lot of people who hate Trump.

Don't understand what was happening. And it was really a rebellion from the people inside the existing organization. Which is called the US government.

Nobody likes that.

You see it every time there's a turnaround situation in business.

You see the same thing. You see the rebellion against Elon Musk, when he bought Twitter was insane.

GLENN: Right.

ANTHONY: Because people don't want new leaders coming in and fixing corrupt systems.

But similar to the US government. Twitter was very corrupt.

They were doing horrible things, for the world.

And they were behaving in a very unethical manner. And Elon came in, and he had 80 or 90 percent of the people, and they were all members.

I remember listening -- there's a news article about Elon Musk is going to destroy it.

And all of his -- that Joel, whatever his name was, there are all these guys, ranting and raving to their buddies in the news medias. Saying all these horrible things about Elon Musk.

And now, some months later, X has only become better and stronger. And really, less permissive because it's a much more friendly -- bringing back free speech. Roger Stone is back on the platform.

That was tragic. I said, one of the first things that really turned me against Twitter and the Democrats in the poll. Anti-free speech movement. Was when they banned Roger Stone from Twitter.

And I said, whether you like Roger Stone or not, he's a personal adviser to Trump. A friend to Trump as far as I can understand. In my opinion, a historically relevant person.

And why would we want to ban historically important individuals, from doing -- an opportunity to speak?

GLENN: Quite honestly.

Anyone. People say, well, it's gotten worse on Twitter.

And I've seen stuff on Twitter.

But I dismiss it, when I see, you know, see people saying crazy things.

I just block them, or just say, all right. Dismiss that.

Move on with your life. When no one is filtering, you have to expect, the crazy people will say things too.

We've all lived in neighborhoods, where there's a crazy guy that lives somewhere on the street.

You know who he is. You avoid him. This is just the cyber neighborhood now. And we've got crazy people living on our street. That's okay.

Ignore them.

ANTHONY: I've been involved for 14 years now. I've been involved in Twitter and all these things.

You know, anecdotally, I can tell you, to me, it feels like it's gotten tremendously better. The algorithm has changed.

And it's favoring intellectual conversation. If you go on there. You look at textbooks. Articles that trend now. Or posts that trend.

They're more interesting. Intellectual and informative in nature.

There are posters. There are people that post interesting stuff, before it was structured.

So if you said horrible things, you know, that was what was favored. And so Twitter was making people become nasty little by little, by saying, look, if you write something really mean, we're going to make you popular. That was the way Jack Dorsey had his structure.

And I think he was a disgusting human to the world, and owed an even bigger apology than Mark Zuckerburg. Because I took major issue -- he had misinformation.

When he had -- he was blocking people left and right for -- for saying things that he didn't like them saying.

GLENN: Right.

ANTHONY: But then I went on there, one day. And then there were things trending, and he can control a trending topic. And it says, I like to punch Nazis. And he had the whole universe of Twitter, saying, I like punching Nazis. I like punching Nazis.

And, of course, Nazi meant Trump supporters.

So Jack Dorsey was inciting violence against all Trump supporters.

I felt that was disgusting. I think it was disgusting. He owes the world a big apology. Mark apologized in a small way. Mark started to say nice things about Trump now.

But Jack really is the biggest villain in the whole tech world.

And now he's hiding. He doesn't even use Twitter anymore.

He's hiding on the Internet. Strange beard. Hiding on an island.

Similar to other people going on, to islands.

GLENN: The -- the idea that they will ban speech, this administration. I don't think they could be more clear, about that.

Especially, their actions show, I mean, our government was helping Brazil, try to get rid of X. And Elon Musk.

When he said, the other day, they won't stop, with me.

And they're not going to stop until they get me.

I believe that. 100 percent. You think more people are waking up to this?

ANTHONY: Everybody here is manning up in support for Trump. People are telling me, we're in New York. It's supposed to be guaranteed blue state. And people told me, because I said to them, I think everyone that is listening and hearing this, you have to get everyone to vote for Trump. It doesn't matter what state you are in. We need a show of strength for Trump. Because really, the best thing for the Democrat Party is a massive loss. Because if they lose by a hair, they are going to keep playing to these crazy ideas. They censor people. That's the path to victory.

They need massive laws. So they look inwards. And remember what it means, remember what it means, to really, at this point, a decent human.

I built my company on the basis of the golden rule. And treating people, in the way, I want to be treated.

Nobody wants duct tape being put on their mouth. Nobody wants their right to speech, taken away. Nobody wants that. And for one side of the country to want to do that to the other side is really wrong.

But the only way they will win is if there's a massive loss. And it doesn't matter if it's a red state or a blue state, you have to go vote Trump. People tell me, they will vote Trump.

They have been planning on doing that. Because they thought all is lost here. But who knows. Maybe New York votes for Trump this year.

GLENN: That would be crazy. Anthony, thank you so much.

Really appreciate it.

And good for you, for taking a stand, and not having fear.

Thank you so much.

ANTHONY: Can I say one last thing really quick? I'm doing everything I can, to try to fix this issue.

And one of the things I'm doing is called stickerP-A-C.com. It's a political action committee. We're giving away free uplifting Trump stickers.

So everybody go, right now, stickerP-A-C.com. And get your free Trump stickers. And give them out to friends, and tell people you like Trump in a nice, happy, fun way.

And let's fix the situation.

GLENN: I love that.

Stickers. Pac. P-A-C.

ANTHONY: Sticker. Sticker. PAC.

GLENN: Sticker Pac. Okay. I love it. (thank you so much.

Appreciate it. Anthony Constantino, from New York.

STU: StickerPAC.com.

And I will say, if I'm getting some stickers, you're doing some custom printing today, I think I will get a sticker mule. That's where I'm going.

PROOF: You WOULD be CENSORED under a Kamala Harris regime

Elon Musk recently warned that if Donald Trump doesn’t win the 2024 election, it will be the end of free speech as we know it. Is there any evidence of this? YES. Yes there is, Glenn says, and he has the receipts. Glenn rolls the tapes to prove that leftist elites in Kamala Harris’ elitist circle want to crack down on free speech: Hillary Clinton said social media could cost them “total control”; In 2022, Tim Walz said “misinformation” and “hate speech” are not protected under the First Amendment (they are); and John Kerry called the First Amendment “a major block” to combatting “misinformation.” Yet real misinformation, like Kamala’s praise of President Biden’s mental acuity even AFTER his disastrous debate, is SPREAD by the media?!

Transcript

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GLENN: So, Stu, last night, you were watching the 60 Minutes interview. How was it?

STU: I did watch that. It was not good. There were a lot of different things, I much rather be watching football.

So the couple things about it. Number one was pitched as a Kamala Harris interview. And it wasn't really that. You got some Kamala Harris. A bunch of Tim Walz. And then an excruciating long piece about whether the election in Arizona was stolen in 2020.

Which I -- we've got four weeks until the election. Why?

Again, like, you could absolutely make a case, that would happen in 2020 in Arizona is important.

Nothing can be done about it, from now until the election. What's important now is 2024 election. You can get past 2024. You can start fixing problems you think exist in all these states. Once again, should have been done between 2020 and 2024.

But there's just no relevance to this whatsoever, at this point.

Whatever, they're trying to make Donald Trump look bad. A lot of it is tilted that way, including puff questions to Kamala Harris.

About, so why didn't you think Donald Trump didn't want to do this interview? Good, tough questions in 60 Minutes. Really tough question there.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. Oh.

STU: There were a couple of questions that were adversarial, I guess you could say.

There was the typical, hey. You flip-flopped on 943 issues.

Let me list three of them. And let me give you a generic answer about your principles. That hasn't changed.

GLENN: So let me play one. This is cut three. This is her being pressed on her nomination. Listen to this.

VOICE: Was democracy best served by President Biden stepping down.

And basically handing you a nomination. He must have to go through a primary process. He didn't have to fight off other contenders.

That's not really the way our system was intended to work.

KAMALA: President Biden made a instigation, that I think history is going to show is rare among leaders, which was to put country before self.

STU: Stop it. He didn't want to do it.

KAMALA: And I am proud to have earned the support of the vast majority of delegates. And to have been elected the democratic nominee.

I am proud to have received the endorsement, of leaders around this country, from every background and walk of life.

STU: Nobody voted for you.

KAMALA: To fight in this election, over the next month.

GLENN: Please say there's a follow-up --

KAMALA: For our democracy.

VOICE: But I think this truncated process is why people think or say, they don't really know who you are.

KAMALA: Look, I've been in this race for 70 days.

GLENN: Right. Right. Yes. And nobody voted for you.

STU: I mean, that's a -- a fair question, that you're right. Though, the lack of follow-up is difficult.

GLENN: Yes.

STU: Right. It's tough to take. Because you know they would sit on this and press on it.

And say, wait a minute.

You're saying you won the votes.

You won the votes of the delegates. After the sitting president endorsed you and you pushed everybody else out of the race.

GLENN: And after you sat on the information, that he was almost a vegetable table.

For four years. Three and a half years.

You said, trust me. I am there with him.

He is fine.

And then, we find out, he's not. The night we find that out. You say, it was just a bad night.

He's fine.

STU: Yeah. You went on Anderson Cooper.

And said everything was fine.

You see him behind closed doors.

He's incredible. He's getting all these things done.

He's dealing with these leaders in these amazing ways.

She was lying after the debate about this.

And still, we really haven't had her pressed on what the hell happened there.

How did you -- why did you not tell people about this in advance?

Why did you continue to lie after everyone else already knew?

GLENN: So why didn't he ask that question? Cut eight, please. Here's Hillary Clinton.

HILLARY: If the platforms, whether it's Facebook or Twitter, X, or Instagram, or TikTok, whatever they are. If they don't moderate and monitor the congratulations, we lose total control.

STU: Uh-oh.

GLENN: We lose total control.

HILLARY: And it's not just the social and psychological effects. It's real harm.

GLENN: Uh-huh. It's real harm. So why wasn't the question pressed over and over again, the way it would be done for anybody else?

Cut nine. Here's Tim Walz.

VOICE: I think we need to push back on this. There's no guarantee on free speech on misinformation. On hate speech. And especially around our democracy.

STU: That's an incredible clip, largely because he then repeated it during the actual debate.

He -- that was in 2020, that clip. He had multiple years. That clip went viral in between.

And he still thought, that -- that there's -- that the hate speech is banned by the First Amendment.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: And that you can't say fire in a crowded theater.

Things that anybody who studied this issue, know immediately are wrong.

And he knows nothing about them.

GLENN: Why didn't CBS ask the tough question? Why is no one really pushing Kamala on FEMA and the response to this hurricane, which is devastating?

I don't know.

Cut ten.

VOICE: And I think the dislike of, and anguish over social media is just growing and growing and growing.

And it's part of our problem, particularly in democracies.

In terms of building consensus around any issue.

It's really hard to govern today.

You can't -- you know, there's no -- the referees we used to have to determine what's a fact and what isn't a fact.

Kind of -- you know, have been eviscerated to a certain degree.

And people go -- and people self-select. Where they go for their news or for their information.

And then you just get into a vicious cycle. So it's really, really hard. Much harder to build consensus today, than at any time, of the 50 years I've been involved in this.

And, you know, there's a lot of discussion now, about how you curbed those entities.

In order to guarantee that you're going to have, you know, some accountability, on the facts, et cetera.

But look, if people go to only one source. And the source they go to is sick.

And, you know, has an agenda. And they're putting out disinformation.

Our First Amendment stands as a danger block to the ability to be able to just, you know --

GLENN: Notice. Notice, they are not talking about who the final arbiter is.

On mis and disinformation.

The arbiter, that they are asking for, is them!

That they will alert social media and everybody else. This is not true. This is true. Just like they did with the Hunter Biden laptop.

This is not true.

This is Russian disinformation.

When they knew the truth.

You're seeing what they want to do.

They are telling you, what they will do.

Now, we have to choose.