RADIOOctober 20, 2023

Jewish college student HORRIFIED by ANTISEMITISM on campus after Hamas attack

It didn't take long after Hamas attacked Israel for pro-Palestinian rallies to pop up on college campuses around the country. But these gatherings have often been anti-Israel as well, and even antisemitic. So, Glenn wanted to hear from a Jewish student about how life on campus has changed over the past few weeks. Georgetown University law student Julia Wax joins Glenn to describe the level of antisemitism she's experienced as her fellow students deny that Hamas' atrocities against Israel even happened and chant things like, "we don't want no Jew state" and "globalize the intifada." But do these college students even realize the antisemitism they're spewing? Plus, The Lawfare Project's Brook Goldstein joins to discuss her efforts to provide pro bono legal support to Jewish students on campus who have been targeted for being Jewish.

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GLENN: These are the exact times I had been warning America about for almost, what 15 years. Twenty years now.

It is why I spent so much time on Israel and the Jewish state.

And Martin Luther King.

For so many years.

Because this is part of what always happens in a -- in a world that goes mad with socialism and Marxism.

It always -- always comes with massive anti-Semitism.

And we're seeing it now in our universities. We're seeing it everywhere.

And it's apparently not that disturbing for a lot of people.

I think everyone should be talking about this, at lunch and dinner. At the water cooler.

You know, wherever you're hanging out and talking about things, there is nothing, I think, more important than this.

Because once anti-Semitism, is this -- it's this gateway to hell. It's this gateway to hell.

And I just asked if you are not Jewish. I am not Jewish.

I just want you to imagine what it must feel like, having your children at a university today.

Or you at a university. Or just being Jewish.

We've seen this movie before.

It's not like, oh. Well, they don't really mean it.

Yeah, no, they do.

And when they're chanting this at the university of Pennsylvania, there's only one solution.

That's -- that's not even veiled.

They're talking about the final solution.

Which was so horrific, they never said the extermination of all the Jews.

They gave a code name.

The final solution. They didn't even want people to know about it. But apparently, everybody on the left, here in America, and around the world. Are all for just letting it rip.

That should terrify non-Jews. Let alone, anyone of Jewish dissent.

Julia Wax is a law student at Georgetown University.

God love her. She's also a Georgetown law Zionist co-president. And Brooke Goldstein joins us.

She's the Law Fair Project. Founder and executive director and author of end Jewish hatred.

Julia, Brooke, welcome to the program.

VOICE: Hi, thank you for having us.

GLENN: You bet. Julia, let me start with you. What are you experiencing, and others experiencing on campus?

JULIA: I would like to say, that this is not just happening at Georgetown. It's happening at campuses -- yeah. Across the United States.

GLENN: Everywhere. And the world.

JULIA: Yeah. And the world. And what we're experiencing is our student group, and students individually, who are posting on social media. Things that basically are anti-Semitic rhetoric. Things that deny the events that happened this past week in Israel, denies the beheading of 40 babies, saying that the Nova incident and the music festival didn't occur. Trying to say that AI is how this is all being generated.

Posting, you know, from the river to the sea, Palestine should be free. They are promoting events and rallies, one of which I went to, to try to understand. I went undercover. And they started chanting, we don't want no Jew state.

GLENN: Jeez.

JULIA: And they started chanting, Zionism will fall. And globalize the (another language). And I don't even -- I don't even think these people understand that the language that they're shouting is anti-Semitic.

It's so deeply embedded, at this point. So it's time to take a stand. And speak out.

I -- my staff prayed for you, Julia, and people like you today, that are -- that are on campuses all over the world. That you have strength, and, oh. I don't even know what else it would take. But that the Lord would be with you.

Brooke, what is your involvement in this? I know you've written a book on ending Jew hatred. But the Law Fair Project. What is that?

BROOKE: First of all, Glenn. I want to thank you so much for your moral clarity. Because this is a time when we need leadership, and we need people like you speaking the truth. It is absolutely very scary. And what we're doing, at the Law Fair Project is we provide pro bono legal support to Jewish students on campus, who are facing a hostile environment that targets them because they are Jewish.

And I want to make absolutely clear. And you said it in your intro. This is not about a Palestinian state.

This has nothing to do with politics. This has everything to do with Islamist-Nazi-like Jew hatred.

And the people that Julia was talking about before, they are akin to Holocaust deniers.

They are the new Hamas, Holocaust deniers.

And it's always those who deny the truth. And denying the truth of this recent genocide.

Because that's what it was. A genocide. That want to commit the same acts and atrocities again.

And that's exactly what Julia is saying. They're chanting on campus.

And Jewish students around the country are feeling unfazed.

So it is incumbent on the administration. The Biden administration.

Who has been giving wonderful speeches. Standing with Israel.

To stand with the Jewish population. Within the United States.

That is absolutely paramount.

And to do everything they can, to root out these terror-supporting, terror-affiliated groups, like SJPs. Students for justice in Palestine.

And groups that support Palestine. They must get off of our campuses.

Because you said it yourself, Glenn. This is a national security threat for the United States.

GLENN: So, guys, I mean, this is so deep, and because I know. Because I've been watching it. I've been watching it. And looking for it, since 2005. 2003. And watching it grow. And it's -- it is in everything now. Black Lives Matter. When people stood up, I kept saying, you can't stand with these people. You might think that there's a problem with the police, you might think there's a problem. Well, good. Let's talk about that and solve it.

But these people are trying to destroy Israel.

They're trying to destroy the traditional family. I mean, how are you going to stop this, in our universities?

It came from the universities.

VOICE: Well, I think it's really important for your audience to understand, the influence of foreign funding.

People in the counterterrorism community have been warning about the billions and billions of dollars coming from states like Qatar. Which is the second largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world.

VOICE: Funding our institutions.

GLENN: Go ahead.

BROOKE: Pardon, Julia.

JULIA: I believe Georgetown has a campus in Qatar as well.

GLENN: Who does?

BROOKE: Tell us about that, Julia.

JULIA: I don't know too much but Georgetown does have a campus in Qatar.

BROOKE: How is it that our administrators are taking hundreds of millions of dollars per campus? They're not registering as foreign agents. They're not disclosing the memos of understanding. What are the terms of this agreement?

I guarantee, this money, we know, is going to diversity, equity, and inclusion. It's going to critical race theory. It's going to fund student groups.

And it's going to radicalize Americans to turn not just against Israel, but against America.

GLENN: Julia. What does it -- I don't know if you can even answer this.

What does it feel like, to be a Jew today?

JULIA: It requires a lot of perseverance.

I'm definitely one of the loudest persons on the campus, when it comes to this subject.

And I'm trying to stay strong for a group of people, because there are students who are unable to focus and are forced in a classroom with students to promote these rallies.

Students are texting me that they are scared to come to class.

Students who are removing their Star of David necklaces. Students who have removed their Israeli flags from their locker.

It's a hostile environment.

You walk down the street, and you don't know who is for you, and who is against you.

And I think it's important to note that this used to be a very fringe group of people no the university campuses. This used to be a very fringe, far left group.

And now it's the majority.

And now, quite honestly, on campuses across the United States, it feels like the majority is against us.

And yesterday, we hosted a survivor, from the nova music festival on our campus.

In 24 hours.

I was able to get her to come and speak.

And before, I think I questioned, how could the Holocaust even have occurred.

How could something even so horrific, have occurred?

And after last night, and listening to this woman speak.

This woman who is similar, who looks like me. Who has a similar background as me, and hearing her -- give her story, about running away from the terrorists. Having friends who died. Now I know. And that's -- it -- it's a staunch and haunting realization as a Jewish person, to have. To be sitting in that room, with 40 other Jewish students, listening to this woman who looks like us, who is one of us, speaks about being persecuted.

And anybody who denies that Hamas is not a terrorist organization, is part of the problem.

And is someone who is stealing anti-Semitic rhetoric and making this a much more globalized issue.

And, Julia, weren't you saying also that the survivor was then further taunting, when she was coming and telling her story?

JULIA: She -- she -- she did speak on the fact, that even in America, she does not feel safe. As a Jewish woman.

But she has friends, who -- who have to have their locks changed. That, you know, she still does not feel safe even being here in America. Due to seeing what she sees occur.

Specifically on campuses.

You know, campuses are the think tanks of America.

This is where all our legal ideas. This is where our new educational ideas stem from.

And it astounds me that we're looking at the most prestigious universities in the world, Harvard, Georgetown, Columbia, Stanford. You know, all these massive organizations.

And they have people at their organizations. And it's not just one, two, or three.

It's hundreds of students that are shouting this rhetoric, and making it unsafe for us.

GLENN: Will you please keep my phone number with you?

If there is anything I can ever do, or my organizations can do for you, please reach out.

I want you to know, a long time ago, I -- before I brought my family to Israel, I brought them to Auschwitz.

And I -- I told them, that you can't understand Israel, unless you understand Auschwitz.

And I asked each of them to read a book of one of the Righteous Among the Nations.

Because I wanted my family to decide who we would be long before, any of this stuff would happen again.

I want you to know, I'm not alone. And you are not alone.

There are millions of us, that stand with you.

We know the past. We know what the future can be. If we remain silent again.

And you will always, always have a place at my table.

Thank you.

JULIA: Thank you. Thank you. I really appreciate it.

GLENN: Good bless you, Julia.

JULIA: Glenn, I just want to say one more thing. There's millions out there. We need you to be vocal now. What can you do to help the Jewish community?

You can call up the administration at Georgetown, right now, today.

Flood them. Flood their email inbox. Make sure you're calling them, every single minute, demanding they create a campus that is safe for the Jewish students.

Demanding they kick off student groups off campus, that are taunting Jewish students, and making it unsafe to exist there. That's how we could use your help.

GLENN: We will do it. Thank you so much.

EXPOSED: Tim Walz's shocking ties to radical Muslim cleric

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is directly connected in more ways than one to a radical Muslim cleric named Asad Zaman. Zaman's history and ties are despicable, and despite Walz's efforts to dismiss his connection to Zaman, the proof is undeniable. Glenn Beck heads to the chalkboard to connect the dots on this relationship.

Watch the FULL Episode HERE: Glenn Beck Exposes TERRORIST SYMPATHIZERS Infiltrating the Democrat Party

Is there a sinister GOP plan to SELL national parks?

Is Sen. Mike Lee pushing a sinister plan to sell our national parks and build “affordable housing” on them? Glenn Beck fact checks this claim and explains why Sen. Lee’s plan to sell 3 million acres of federal land is actually pro-freedom.

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GLENN: Now, let me give you a couple of things, from people I generally respect.

Chris Rufo, I really respect.

I'm totally against selling this land.

Nobody is going to build affordable housing deep in the Olympic Peninsula, which is one of the most beautiful places in the country.

I agree, it's in Washington State. It's on the coast. And it's a rain forest.

I want my kids hiking, fishing, and camping on those lands, not selling them off for some tax credit scam. This is a question I want to ask Mike Lee about.

That's really good. Matt Walsh chimes in, I'm very opposed to the plan. The biggest environmentalist in the country are and always have been, conservatives who like to hunt and fish.

We don't just call ourselves environmentalists, because the label has too much baggage.

And the practice always just means communist. Really, we are naturalists in the tradition of Teddy Roosevelt, and that's why most of us hate the idea of selling off federal lands to build affordable housing or whatever. I want to get to affordable housing here in a second.

Preserving nature is important. It's a shame we haven't -- that we've allowed conservation to become so left-wing coated. It never was historically.

No, and it still isn't.

You're right about one thing, Matt. We are the best conservatives. We actually live in these places. We use these places. We respect the animals. We respect the land. We know how the circle of life works. So I agree with you on that.

But affordable housing. Why do you say affordable housing or whatever?

Are you afraid those will be black people? I'm just playing devil's advocate? Are you just afraid of black people? You don't want any poor people in your neighborhood or your forest?

That's not what they mean by affordable housing.

And I know that's not what you mean either.

But what -- what we mean by affordable housing is, if you take a look at the percentage of land that is owned in some of these states. You can't live in a house, in some of these states, you know. Close to anything, for, you know, less than a million dollars. Because there's no land!

There's plenty of land all around.

Some of it. Let's just talk about Utah.

Some of it is like the surface of the moon!

But no. No. No.

Not going to hunt and fish on the surface of the moon. But we can't have you live anywhere.

I mean, you have to open up -- there is a balance between people and the planet. And I'm sorry. But when you're talked about one half of 1 percent, and we're not talking about Yellowstone.

You know, we're not. Benji Backer, the Daily Caller, he says, the United States is attempting to sell off three million acres of public land, that will be used for housing development through the addition of the spending bill.

This is a small provision to the big, beautiful bill that would put land in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado. Idaho. New Mexico. Oregon. Utah. Washington, and Wyoming at risk.

Without so much as a full and fair debate by members of both sides of the political aisle.

You know, I talked -- I'll talk to him about this.

The irony is, the edition of this provision by Republican-led Senate goes entirely against conservation legacy of a conservation. President Trump made a promise to revive this legacy.

Yada. Yada. Yada.

More about Teddy Roosevelt.

Then let me give you this one from Lomez. Is Mike Lee part of a sinister plan to sell off federal land?

This plan to sell off public lands is a terrible proposal that doesn't make any sense under our present circumstances and would be a colossal political blunder. But I'll try to be fair to base Mike Lee.

And at least have him explain where this is all coming from.

Okay. I will have him do that in about 30 minutes.

Let me give you just my perspective on this.

I'm from the West. I love the west.

I don't hike myself.

I think there's about 80 percent of the people who say, I just love to hike. And they don't love to hike. They never go outside.

I'm at least willing to admit. I don't like to hike. But I love the land. I live in a canyon now. That I would love to just preserve this whole canyon in my lifetime. I'm not going to rule from the grave. But in my lifetime, to protect this, so it remains unspoiled. Because it is beautiful!

But we're talking about selling 3 million acres of federal land. And it's becoming dangerous.

And it's a giveaway. Or a threat to nature.

But can we just look at the perspective here?

The federal government owned 640 million acres. That is nearly 28 percent of all land in America!

How much land do we have?

Well, that's about the size of France.

And Germany. Poland.

And the United Kingdom, combined!

They own and hold pristine land, that is more than the size of those countries combined!

And most of that is west of the Mississippi. Where the federal control smothers the states.

Okay?

Shuts down opportunity. Turns local citizens into tenets of the federal estate.

You can't afford any house because you don't have any land!

And, you know, the states can't afford to take care of this land. You know why the states can't afford it?

Because you can't charge taxes on 70 percent of your land!

Anyway, on, meanwhile, the folks east of the Mississippi, like Kentucky, Georgia. Pennsylvania.

You don't even realize, you know, how little of the land, you actually control.

Or how easy it is for the same policies, to come for you.

And those policies are real.

Look, I'm not talking about -- I'm disturbed by Chris Rufo saying, that it is the Olympic forest.

I mean, you're not going to live in the rain forest. I would like to hear the case on that.

But we're not talking about selling Yellowstone or paving over Yosemite or anything like that.

We're talking about less than one half of one percent of federal land. Land that is remote.
Hard to access. Or mismanaged. I live in the middle of a national forest.

So I'm surrounded on all sides by a national forest, and then BLM land around that. And then me. You know who the worst neighbor I have is?

The federal government.

The BLM land is so badly mismanaged. They don't care what's happening.

Yeah. I'm going to call my neighbor, in Washington, DC, to have them fix something.

It's not going to happen.

If something is wrong with that land, me and my neighbors, we end up, you know, fixing the land.

We end up doing it. Because the federal government sucks at it.

Okay.

So here's one -- less than one half of 1 percent.

Why is it hard to access that land?

Well, let me give you a story. Yellowstone.

Do you know that the American bison, we call it the buffalo.

But it's the American bison.

There are no true American bison, in any place, other than Yellowstone.

Did you know that?

Here's almost an endangered species.

It's the only true American bison, is in Yellowstone.

Ranchers, I would love to raise real American bison.

And I would protect them.

I would love to have them roaming on my land.

But you can't!

You can't.

Real bison, you can't.

Why? Because the federal government won't allow any of them to be bred.

In fact, when Yellowstone has too many bison on their land, you know what the federal government does?

Kills them. And buries them with a bulldozer. Instead of saying, hey. We have too many.

We will thin the herd.

We will put them on a truck. Here's some ranchers that will help repopulate the United States with bison. No, no, no. You can't do that.

Why? It's the federal government. Stop asking questions. Do you know what they've done to our bald eagles.

I have pictures of piles of bald eagles.

That they'll never show you.

They'll never show you.

You can't have a bald eagle feather!

It's against the law, to have a feather, from a bald eagle!

If it's flying, and a feather falls off, you can't pick it up. Because they're that sacred.

But I have pictures of piles of bald eagles, dead, from the windmills.

And nobody says a thing.

Okay.

But we're talking about lands.

States can't afford to manage it.

Okay. But how can the federal government?

Now, this is really important.

The federal government is, what? $30 trillion in debt or are we 45 trillion now, I'm not sure?

Our entitlement programs, all straight infrastructure, crumbling.

And yet, we're still clinging to millions of acres of land, that the federal government can't maintain. Yeah, they can.

Because they can always print money.

We can't print money in the state, so we can't afford it.

Hear me out. The BLM Forest Service, Park Service, billions of dollars behind in maintenance, roads, trails, fire brakes.

Everything is falling apart..

So what's the real plan here?

Well, the Biden administration was the first one that was really open about it, pushing for what was called 30 by 30.

They want 30 percent of all US land and water, under conservation by 2030.

But the real goal is 5050.

50 percent of the land, and the water, in the government's control by 2050.

Half of the country locked up under federal or elite approved protection.

Now, you think that's not going to affect your ability to hunt, fish, graze, cattle. Harvest, timber, just live free. You won't be able to go on those. It won't be conservatives, who stop you from hunting and fishing.

It will be the same radical environmental ideologues, who see the land, as sacred, over people!

I mean, unless it's in your backyard. Your truck. Or your dear stand, you know, then I guess you can't touch that land.

Here's something that no one is talking about, and it goes to the 2030.

The Treasury right now, and they started under Obama, and they're still doing it now.

Sorry, under Biden.

And they're doing it now. The Treasury is talking about putting federal land on the national ballot sheet. What does that mean?

Well, it will make our balance sheet so much better.

Because it looks like we have so much more wealth, and we will be able to print more money.

Uh-huh. What happens, you know. You put something sacred like that, on your balance sheet, and the piggy bank runs dry.

And all of the banks are like, okay.

Well, you can't pay anymore.

What happens in a default?

What happens, if there's catastrophic failure. You don't get to go fish on that land. Because that land becomes Chinese.

You think our creditors, foreign and domestic, won't come knocking?

What happens when federal land is no longer a national treasure, but a financial asset, that can be seized or sold or controlled by giant banks or foreign countries.

That land that you thought, you would always have access to, for your kids, for your hunting lodge, for your way of life.

That is really important!

But it might not be yours at all. Because you had full faith in the credit of the United States of America.

So what is the alternative?

Supreme Court UPHOLDS Tennessee trans law, but should have done THIS

The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in favor a Tennessee law that bans transgender surgeries for minors. But famed attorney Alan Dershowitz explains to Glenn why “it should have been unanimous.”

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GLENN: Alan Dershowitz, how are you?

ALAN: I'm doing great, how about you?

GLENN: It has been a really confusing week. I'm losing friends, I think, because I stand with Israel's right to defend themselves. And I'm pointing out, that while I don't want a war, Iran is a really bad place.

And then I see, the Supreme Court comes out best interest there are three justices are like, I don't know. I think children, you know, can change their identity before we even let them drive or carry a gun. Or enlist in the military.

It's insane!

ALAN: It is insane. Especially since the radical left said that -- 17 and a half-year-old -- voluntary sex with their boyfriend. That would be sexist, that would be horrible.

But they can consent to have an abortion. They can consent to have radical surgery, that can't be reversed.

By the way, the decision is like six to two and a half. Elena Kagan, my former colleague at Harvard, didn't reach the merits of whether or not a state could actually ban these operations on a minor. She got involved in whether or not you need super, duper scrutiny, or just super scrutiny, a kind of, you know, a very technical thing.

But she didn't rule on whether under any kind of scrutiny, the state could do that. So definitely, two of them said that the state could do it, but not necessarily a third one.

GLENN: Okay.

Can you break this argument down? And why it should have been unanimous?

ALAN: Oh, it should be unanimous. There's no question.

States under the Constitution, have the authority to decide medical issues. States decide a whole range of medical issues. I remember when I was a young professor, there was an issue of whether or not one twin could be operated on to remove a kidney, to be given to another twin.

And, you know, that case went all the way through -- the federal government never got involved in that. That was up to the state of Massachusetts. They made interesting decisions.

Some states go the other way.

Half the countries of Europe go one way. The other half go the other way. And just as Justice Brandeis once said that things are the laboratories of Constitutional experimentation.

They have the right to do things their own way. And then we'll see over time. Over time, I predict that we will find that this kind of surgery, is not acceptable scientifically for young people.

And the New York Times had an absurd op-ed yesterday. By the mother of a transgender person.

And it never mentioned. It originally said that the person was now 18 years old.

And the decision does not apply to anyone who is 18.

You know, just wait. Don't make irreversible decisions while you're 12 years old. Or 13 years old.

Because we know the statistics show, that some people, at least, regret having made these irreversible decisions, particularly. Yeah.

GLENN: So why is it -- why is it that the state. Why wasn't the argument, you can't do this to children?

ALAN: Well, you know, that's the question.

Whether or not if the state says, you can do it to children, that violates the Constitution. I think states are given an enormous amount of leeway, this. Deciding what's best for people.

You leave it to the public.

And, you know, for me, if I were, you know, voting. I would not vote to allow a 17-year-old to make that irreversible decision. But if the state wants to do it. If a country in Europe wants to do it. All right!

But the idea that there's a constitutional right for a minor, who can't -- isn't old enough to consent to a contract, to have sex, is old enough to consent to do something that will change their life forever, and they will come to regret, is -- is absurd.

GLENN: So I don't know how you feel about Justice Thomas. But he -- he took on the so-called experts.

And -- and really kind of took him to the woodshed. What were your thoughts on that?

ALAN: Well, I agree with that. I devoted my whole life to challenging experts. That's what I do in court.

I challenge experts all the time. But most of the major cases that I've won, have been cases where experts went one way, and we were -- persuaded a jury or judge. That the expert is not really an expert.

Experts have become partisans, just like everybody else.

And so I'm glad that expert piece is being challenged by judges.

And, you know, experts ought to challenge judges, judges challenge experts. That's the world we live in. Everybody challenges everybody else. As long as all of us are allowed to speak, allowed to have our point of view expressed, allowed to vote, that's democracy.

Democracy does not require a singular answer to complex medical, psychological, moral problems. We can have multiple answers.

We're not a dictatorship. We're not in North Korea or Iran, where the ayatollah or the leader tells us what to think. We can think for ourselves, and we can act for ourselves.

GLENN: Yeah. It's really interesting because this is my argument with Obamacare.

I was dead set against Obamacare. But I wasn't against Romneycare when it was in Massachusetts. If that's what Massachusetts wants to do, Massachusetts can do it. Try it.

And honestly, if it would work in a state, we would all adopt it.

But the problem is, that some of these things, like Romneycare, doesn't work. And so they want to -- they want to rope the federal government into it. Because the federal government can just print money. You know, any state wants to do anything.

For instance, I have a real hard time with California right now.

Because I have a feeling, when they fail, we will be roped into paying for the things that we all knew were bad ideas.

Why? Why should I pay for it in Texas, when I know it wouldn't work?

And I've always wanted to live in California, but I don't, because I know that's not going to work.

ALAN: Yeah. But conservatives sometimes take the opposite point of view.

Take guns, for example.

The same Justice Thomas says that I state cannot have the authority to decide that guns should not be available in time square.

Or in schools. There has to be a national openness to guns. Because of the second apple.

And -- you can argue reasonably, what the Second Amendment means.

But, you know, conservatives -- many conservatives take the view that it has to be a single standard for the United States.

It can't vary in their decision how to control -- I'm your favorite --

GLENN: Isn't that -- doesn't that -- doesn't that just take what the -- what the Bill of Rights is about, and turns it upside the head?

I mean, it says, anything not mentioned here, the states have the rights.

But they -- they cannot. The federal government cannot get involved in any of these things.

And these are rights that are enshrined.

So, I mean, because you could say that, but, I mean, when it comes to health care, that's not in the Constitution. Not in the Bill of Rights.

ALAN: Oh, no.

There's a big difference, of course.

The Second Amendment does provide for the right to bear arms.

The question is whether it's interpreted in light of the beginning of the Second Amendment. Which says, essentially, a well-regulated, well-regulated militia. Whether that applies to private ownership as well.

Whether it could be well-regulated by states.

Look, these are interesting debates.

And the Supreme Court, you know, decides these.

But all I'm saying is that many of these decisions are in some way, influenced by ideology.

The words of the Constitution, don't speak like, you know, the Ten Commandments and God, giving orders from on high.

They're often written in ambiguous terms. Even the Ten Commandments. You know, it says, thou shall not murder. And it's been interpreted by some to say, thou shall not still, the Hebrew word is (foreign language), for murder, not kill. And, of course, we know that in parts of the Bible, you are allowed to kill your enemies, if they come after you to kill you, rise up and kill them first.

So, you know, everything -- human beings are incapable of writing with absolute clarity, about complex issues.

That's why we need institutions to interpret them. The institutions should be fair.

And the Supreme Court is sometimes taking over too much authority, too much power.

I have an article today, with gay stone.

Can had starts with a quote from the book of Ruth.

And it says, when judges rule the land, there was famine.

And I say, judges were not supposed to ever rule, going back to Biblical times.

Judges are supposed to judge.

People who are elected or pointed appropriately. Are the ones supposed to rule.

GLENN: Quickly. Two other topics. And I know you have to go.

If I can get a couple of quick takes on you.

The Democrats that are being handcuffed, and throwing themselves into situations.

Do you find that to be a sign of a fascistic state or a publicity stunt?

ALAN: A publicity stunt. And they would knit it. You know, give them a drink at 11 o'clock in the bar. They will tell you, they are doing this deliberately to get attention.

Of course, a guy who is running behind in the mayor race in New York, goes and gets himself arrested. And now he's on every New York television station. And probably will move himself up in the polls.

So no.

Insular -- I don't believe in that. And I don't believe we should take it -- take it seriously.

GLENN: Last question.

I am proudly for Israel.

But I'm also for America. And I'm really tired of foreign wars.

And I think you can be pro-Israel and pro-America at the same time.

I don't think you can -- you don't have to say, I'm for Israel, defending themselves, and then that makes me a warmonger.

I am also very concerned about Iran. And have been for a very long time.

Because they're Twelvers. They're Shia Twelvers. That want to wash the world in blood. To hasten the return of the promised one.

So when they have a nuclear weapon. It's a whole different story.

ALAN: No, I agree with you, Tucker Carlson, is absolutely wrong, when he say he has to choose between America first or supporting Israel. Supporting Israel in this fight against Iran, is being America first.

It's supporting America. Israel has been doing all the hard work. It's been the one who lost its civilians and fortunately, none of its pilots yet.

But America and Israel work together in the interest of both countries.

So I'm -- I'm a big supporter of the United States, the patriarch. And I'm a big supporter of Israel at the same time.

Because they work together in tandem, to bring about Western -- Western values.

GLENN: Should we drop a bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should.

GLENN: Our plane drop the bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should. And without killing civilians. It can be done. Probably needs four bombs, not one bomb. First, one bomb to open up the mountain. Then another bomb to destroy what's going on inside.

And in my book The Preventive State, I make the case for when preventive war is acceptable. And the war against Iran is as acceptable as it would have been to attack Nazi Germany in the 1930s. If we had done that, if Britain and France had attacked Nazi Germany in the 1930s, instead of allowing it to be built up, it could have saved 60 million lives. And so sometimes, you have to take preventive actions to save lives.

GLENN: What is the preventive state out, Alan?

ALAN: Just now. Just now.

Very well on Amazon.

New York Times refuses to review it. Because I defended Donald Trump.

And Harvard club cancelled my appearance talked about the book. Because I haven't been defending Harvard. I've been defending President Trump's attack. By the way, they called Trump to Harvard: Go fund yourself.
(laughter)

GLENN: Okay.

Let's -- I would love to have you back on next week. To talk about the preventive state. If you will. Thank you, Alan. I appreciate it. Alan Dershowitz. Harvard Law school, professor emeritus, host of the Dershow. And the author of the new book that's out now, The Preventive State.

I think that's a really important topic. Because we are -- we are traveling down the roads, where fascism, on both sides, where fascism can start to creep in. And it's all for your own good.

It's all for your own protection. Be aware. Be aware.

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