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SHOCKING feud erupts: Why did Musk drop the Epstein bomb on Trump?

The feud between Elon Musk and President Trump went nuclear on X after Elon claimed Trump was in the Epstein Files. “Why would he do this?” asks Glenn Beck. Glenn and Stu review the biggest rumors that came out after the fight.

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GLENN: So in chronological order, this is what happened.

Because Elon had been calling to kill the big, beautiful bill. So first thing yesterday, Trump is responding to Elon's criticism. Here it is, listen.

VOICE: Thank you, president. The criticism I've seen and I'm sure you've seen regarding Elon Musk and your big, beautiful bill. What's your reaction to that?

Do you think it any way hurts passage in the Senate, which, of course, is what you're seeking?

DONALD: Well, look, I've always liked Elon. And it's always very surprised. You saw the words he had for me. The words. And, yes. Said that thing about me that's bad. I would rather have him criticize me than the bill because the bill is incredible.

It's the biggest cut in the history of our country. We have never cut -- it's about 1.6 trillion in cuts.


It's the biggest tax cut, tax, you would say, people -- people's taxes will go way down. But it's the biggest tax cut in history.

We are doing things in that bill that are unbelievable.

GLENN: So Russ Voit is going to be on with us, by the way, in 30 minutes. So I think that's really mild. I mean, he's just responding to Elon's criticism. Look, I would rather have him criticism me than the bill. Because we disagree it.

Blah, blah. Then Elon responds. Whatever. Keep the EV solar incentive cuts in the bill, even though no oil and gas subsidies are touched.

Very unfair. But ditch the mountain of disgusting pork in the bill. In the entire history of civilization, there has never been legislation, that was both big and beautiful, and everyone knows this.

Either you get a big and ugly bill, or a slim and beautiful bill. Slim and beautiful is the way.

Then Elon reupped a bunch of old Trump tweets, where he announced raising the debt limit.
And then he made a poll.

Is it time to create a new political party in America, that actually represents 80 percent in the middle? Yes or no?

By this point, now Trump who was showing tremendous restraint has to respond. He writes, Elon was wearing thin. I asked him to leave.

I took away his EV mandate. That forced to everybody to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted. He knew that for months, that I was going to do this.

And he just went crazy. Then he writes, the easiest way to save money in our budget. Billions and billions of dollars is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts. I was always advised that Biden didn't do it.

Me too.

Well, Elon responded by threatening decommission his SpaceX Dragon spacecraft. He says, in light of the president's statement about cancellation of my government contract, SpaceX, SpaceX will be decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft, immediately.

Now, this is -- this is crazy. This is crazy.

Then Elon, after he lost a lot of people on this. He writes, time to drop the really big bomb. Real Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. That's the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT.

Why would he do this? Why would he do this?

Elon says, mark this post for the future, because the truth will come out.

Now, Trump, again, who I think was pretty restrained all day, compared to Elon Musk. I don't mind Elon turning against me. But he should have done so months ago. This is one of the greatest bills ever presented to Congress. It's a record cut in expenses. $1.6 trillion, and the biggest tax cut ever given. If this bill doesn't pass, there will be a 68 percent tax increase. Things get far worse than that. I didn't create this mess. I am just trying to fix it. This puts our country on a path of greatness. Make America great again.

After that, everybody starts to calm down a little bit. Do you happen to have the -- Linda and David Sacks tweet?

Because they both kind of stand up for the big, beautiful bill. In saying, it needs to pass!
Now, she's a CEO, isn't she?

Or is she the president of X?

CEO of X. And David Sacks is a good friend of Elon Musk. And they're both saying, no, no, no.

We've got to pass the big beautiful bill. So then you have Bill Ackman stepping up.

Now, the White House said, they were trying to schedule a call with Elon sometime today, to work this out.

Which, if you look at the actual facts, Donald Trump was more restrained than I think I've ever seen him.

Would you agree with that, Stu?

STU: Yeah. He did not -- certainly, didn't go nuclear like Elon Musk did.

GLENN: No. No.

STU: I mean, he did address it. He started getting a little more critical about Elon.

GLENN: Right.

STU: But it seemed to be ramping up slowly. And all of a sudden, someone dropped nine nuclear bombs on to the -- the battlefield.

GLENN: Right. Right.

Bill Ackman writes, a support real Donald Trump and Elon Musk. And they should make peace for the benefit of our great country. We're much stronger together than apart.

Elon writes, last night at 9:27, you're not wrong.

So hopefully, this is over. But look at the damage that this has done.

This has given the -- the left all kinds of ammunition.

You know, nothing, but talking points.

Elon Musk is never going to be reembraced by the left.

I don't think he really cares about that.

But he should care about -- you know, we need the guy to survive. He's one of the greatest minds of -- of our day. Of our lifetime!

He's probably the greatest scientific mind, as far as putting things into practical use, since Tesla!

The first Tesla, you know. The real Tesla.

And we have to have that, guys.

But we have to have Donald Trump. And we have to have a country!

Now, I -- I want at home cut more out of this budget. But let's not blow this damn thing up. Let's not blow everything up, out of the water. This is not good. Who does this chaos serve?

Certainly, not the country. Not the republic. And not anybody who is trying to navigate these crazy waters.

STU: Glenn, can we talk for a second about the specific allegation of -- of him being in the Epstein files.

GLENN: Yes.

STU: We've already known that, by the way.

STU: Number one, of course, technically, it's accurate that he was in there. They were friends. If you're looked at everything that -- that -- like every flight on Jeffrey Epstein's plane.

You know, Donald Trump flew on the plane.

I don't think there's any evidence he went to the island.

Certainly no evidence that he did anything illegal with Jeffrey Epstein.

They were friends before these accusations came out.

Technically speaking, Elon Musk has been saying something that has been well-covered in the media already.

And might protect him from legal consequences, because of that tweet.

I mean, if they really had a falling out, I mean, Trump -- Trump sued CBS of their editing of the Kamala Harris interview.

Being called a pedophile basically on the internet. Would I'm sure merit a lawsuit. If they really had a falling out.

Technically speaking, Musk would probably survive that.

Likely because, of course, Trump is in there.

It's something we've known for a long time. By the way, we should know. Probably dozens of other completely innocent people, that would be in those files.

It doesn't mean that everybody they ever interacted with this guy, slept with children.

GLENN: Yeah. So Musk was releasing these videos of him. And, you know, Epstein.

And nobody denies that he was around Epstein. Nobody denies that. But what nobody cares to recognize is that as soon as Donald Trump, you know, had an inkling of who this guy was really, and some -- one of the women, you know, at his club, abused by Epstein, he cut the friendship. Kicked him out!

And said, we're done. Get out.

I mean, he was the one guy that I know of, the one guy, with moral spine, around Epstein.

STU: Right. Yeah.

GLENN: And let's not forget, there's Elon Musk pictures with Maxwell. So, I mean --

STU: Is that even true?

GLENN: It's a very small circle.

STU: It's hard to know what's being Photoshopped. I don't even know.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. Are you kidding me? Really?

STU: I don't know. I've seen photos of them. I honestly don't know. I always assume they're fake, until I know.

But who knows? Again, everybody has pictures. Especially famous people. Famous people hang out at the same parties.

That doesn't prove anything.

Honestly, if there is something here.

And you mentioned this earlier, Glenn.

If there was something Donald Trump, that he did something wrong with Jeffrey Epstein.

I can assure you the Biden administration would have found a way to release that.

And it even speaks poorly of Musk in a way. If there was terrible evidence here. I mean, was he going to just go along and not -- just, you know, be quiet about Trump's sexual abuse of children, if the cuts came through, the spending bill, the way he wanted them.

All of them is absurd. All of them is not real. It's a couple guys throwing insults at each other. In this particular case. Trump much more restrained than Elon Musk, I would argue.

Even though, again, lots of positives with Elon Musk.

He's the one that really went nuclear here. And I do hope cooler heads would prevail. Because it's good for the country, Glenn.

GLENN: Because I know you've -- you've really done your homework on Elon Musk.

And he has -- he has moments where he is not -- where he's manic. Is it possible that this is a manic episode with -- with Elon?

STU: I have -- you know, no evidence. Not --

GLENN: Yeah, I know.

STU: To be clear, I'm not accusing anybody of anything.

But, you know, to look at, if you read the biography. The Isaacson biography about him, there are periods during that time, times where he's sleeping on the floor of the factory. You know, that type of period, if you remember that period, Glenn. Where it does appear that he goes into what you might call, you know, a manic state. And makes a lot of poor decisions. Decisions that wind up really hurting the stock price. You know, tweeting out things, that he winds up getting sued for.

There are a lot of periods in Elon's life where that type of stuff seems to happen. Add on to that. The New York Times. Again, take it for what it's worth.

Elon has a lot of enemies inside the White House. That's something that you should know. We don't know where this came from. But, you know, lots of accusations of drug use and things of that nature as well.

GLENN: When you say drug use, it's really ketamine, isn't it?

STU: Ketamine was one of them. It was more than just that. I can pull the article up. But one of the interesting notes in the article is one of the ways the New York Times claims that they made this available to actually be reported and it wasn't just a rumor that somebody told them. Was they had photographic evidence of these pills.

Now, Glenn, how many times has someone, that you know, taken pictures of your pillbox, or your pill bottles?

GLENN: Oh, my gosh, that happens all the time. All the time.

STU: This is not something that occurs to normal people that doesn't have enemies around them. Right?

My speculation, is somebody around him, saw him taking pills. Took pictures of them. And sent them to the New York Times.

Supposedly. Now, the Times are like, his friends are concerned about him. That's their excuse. I don't buy that at all.

GLENN: I don't either. Nobody has friends at that level in Washington, DC. Nobody.

STU: Especially it would be like, you know what, I'm concerned about Elon, I will leak these photos to the New York Times.

Like, there's no friend of his, who would do that. It's absurd.

It's somebody who hated his guts, or wanted to destroy him. And wanted these bad things to come out about him, in my estimation.

So, you know, could that be true. There could be some truth to it. I don't know.

Could it be that he's in a manic period? Could it be that he's really frustrated? And this is how he operates with everybody else, and it's not that big a deal.

Most people shrug it off because it's just normal internet drama. When you're doing it to the president of the United States, it takes on a totally different shape.

GLENN: Not good.

Yeah. Here's the thing. Just pray for both men. And pray for our republic. This is not good for any of us. We need them both to get along.

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GLENN: Somebody asked me. Might have been you, Stu. Said, why do you think they're putting up a stink about releasing the files?

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: I can guarantee you, that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files.

STU: You said that at the very beginning.

GLENN: Years ago.

STU: Even with that -- more recently when Elon came out with his tweet. And we all said, of course, he's in the files. He was friends with this guy for a long time, but before people knew.

GLENN: Right, and he broke up with him, if you will.

STU: Before his initial arrest.

GLENN: Right, before the initial arrest. And he broke up with him, because it's like, hey, you treat women like crap. Okay. So, yeah.

He is in the filing. I can almost guarantee it. So why wouldn't you want that out?

For the same reason he's saying, you know, there's a lot of people in here, whose names are going to be involved, who may not have done anything.
That's not just protecting him. You know what that is? That's a comment on us. Because here's my stance on this. The whole thing should be released.
Every bit of it should be released. However, there is a competing argument in my own mind that says, not responsible enough for that. What do I mean by that?

This system of our government is wholly inadequate for an immoral and non-religious society.

And I don't mean, well, our society has got to go to church.

I mean, you have to have the underpinnings of things like the Ten Commandments.

Don't lie!

Don't cheat. Don't steal.

Don't smear your neighbor. We don't do any of those things. Okay?

We can't even do ten simple laws. Okay?

And they're all good safety tips. I don't know occasion if I renamed all of these things.

If I didn't use the religious context, every American would say, yeah. Well, that's a good thing.

Hey. You shouldn't worship your car.

Yeah. That's a good thing. You know, you shouldn't -- you shouldn't look at the image of somebody, and go, that's -- that's who I serve.
That's my God. No! That is a bad thing.

Don't cheat on your spouse. Don't lie.

Honor your mom and dad. All of these things, we would all agree, we can't do that as a society! We can't even agree on eight of the ten!
So how are you going to remain free? Let me bring this back to the Epstein file.

All of this information should be public. It should be out there. There should be no secrets.

Unless it is in our national interests.

And I don't mean, well, it could go badly for the CIA.

Good!

Let it go badly for the CIA. If they did something wrong, or they were doing something nefarious. Or they were doing something that the American people just wouldn't like. I want that exposed.

Okay?

But are we responsible enough to have all of the information?

I contend, no!

That doesn't make me say. I'm still saying, release it all!

But I'm telling you, the consequences will be ugly.

STU: It could be a mess.

GLENN: A mess.

STU: That's okay. Probably.

Because we're talking about -- if there's information in there, that the American people need.

GLENN: I think we are approaching a place to where it's -- it's not just a mess.

And here's why I say that.

STU: What do you mean?

GLENN: So you get all this information. How is this information going to be used?

Of course, Donald Trump's name is in there.

Is Donald Trump -- did he -- was he messing around with young girls?

No. No.

STU: Is there even an accusation.

I mean, there's a lot of things they accused Donald Trump of.

GLENN: Not that.

STU: Is this even an accusation that he was interested in underage girls?

GLENN: No. No. No.

And all they're saying is, he's in the file.

Well, there will be a lot of people in the file. Okay?

A lot of people in the file.

And some of them might be guilty.

Some of them, you -- I worry, because I want to know their names. But I want to hear, why were you with him?

Oh, it was before you knew.

Oh, it was this or that. You were getting money as a scientist, for your thing. From him. Okay.

But it wasn't about underage girls. As a society, we will not read the Epstein report.

We won't.

STU: No. Of course not. Right?

We won't read it. It doesn't matter if it's ten pages! The vast majority will not read it. What they will do is they will go to Twitter and X. And they will look for what name is in there.

And somebody will say, Donald Trump. And you know what you know this means? He was diddling with little girls.

And that will just become their opinion, not based on fact, not based on anything.

Except, somebody who has ill will on anyone or is just as stupid as the rest of the public.

Yesterday, this -- last week, this file came out from Tulsi Gabbard. And what do you say this is, Stu?

One hundred fifty pages, maybe. One hundred pages?

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Okay. My staff read it. We read it. You know why?

Because you weren't going to read it. And my job is to make it easier for you to understand what is going on.

My job really is not to tell you, what is going on.

I'm -- my job is actually to try to give you perspective on why it's happening, and what it means.

But because nobody -- and I'm not dissing you. This is a very, well-read audience.

In many cases, more well-read on some things than we are.

But generally speaking, the American people don't read.

They don't read these reports.

This one came out yesterday, and what is this?

20 pages, maybe?

And this thing is unbelievable. Because there were only five copies of it.

This was the -- they categorized the highest level of top secret outside of a nuclear weapon in our codes.

Okay. This was in the most top -- this was like the knock list, at the CIA.

Five copies, all in one -- in one safe. Where the most confidential CIA stuff is kept.

And it was released yesterday.

And it's not 30 years old.

It's four!

Did you read it? Did anyone actually -- I contend, very few reporters, very few talking heads on cable TV even read these.

STU: Yeah. And, by the way, it's not an unreasonable expectation for a population to have a media that is going to inform them properly about very lengthy government documents.

GLENN: Correct. Correct.

But once you have seen that that media is not reliable.

And everybody knows that now.

You may not find me reliable.

But the person who doesn't find me reliable, also probably doesn't find CNN reliable.

They might go, well, they're a little better than he is.

But they -- they don't trust anybody.

And they shouldn't.

At this point, you shouldn't trust anybody.

Which means, you have to know it for yourself. So when you're looking at the Epstein files. You're looking at these files.

These files, everyone should care about. Because this shows. This -- it's not new. Some of it is!

But very little of it is new.

It's just authentication that what has been said, all these years, by people like me, is accurate!

And you wouldn't have fought about its accuracy, if it didn't matter.

But you fought -- he didn't know what he was talking about. That's a conspiracy theory. He has to be shut down. Get him off Facebook. Take him off Twitter.

He can't say these things. Why would you say that if it didn't matter? Now you not only that know those things are true, but you now see a pattern of behavior. It's like looking at one murder, and then another murder, and then another murder.

Okay. We've got three murderers, on the loose now.

And then all of a sudden, you realize, wait a minute. Not only did those murders happen, it was the same guy. Now you have a serial killer.

Is a serial killer more -- a higher priority than just one murderer?

Yeah.

Yeah. It is. Because they are -- they are killing people -- I don't know. Out of the love of it. Out of their distorted.

It's not a crime of passion. It becomes something really, really sick.

This is a serial killer.

You now have not just one offs. You see, this is a pattern.

This group has been doing this from the beginning. You know what I said, you know, if they can get away with this. They will keep doing it.

This shows, they got away with it, for so long.

By 2016. They just, they don't care anymore.

They don't care anymore.

But how many people are reading this?

What they'll do is they'll listen to people like me, or people like CNN, and they'll say, oh, well. I heard Jake Tapper talk about it.

It means nothing.

Well, now, Jake Tapper might not mean -- let me leave you with a better example. I really like Andy McCarthy.

I really like him.

I read his work.

STU: It's great.

GLENN: I believe -- I believe his opinion is valid. I don't think it's right.

But I think it's valid.

And I read his work. And I thought, okay.

Wait a minute. If Andy McCarthy is saying this. I really need to examine what he's saying. And see where I disagree with him.

And as I went in, I was prepared to change my mind, if I thought Andy was right.

Now, he might in the end, be right.

But I don't think so.

Because what he is saying is, a lot of this stuff is old news.

Yes, Andy, it is. But it's now a grand conspiracy. You have to look at the through-line.

You're not looking at the one-off events.

You're looking at two things.

One, it's now been verified at the highest sources in writing.

You have whistleblowers, at the time, writing saying, we can't do this.

We didn't have that information. You have on record now, Brennan saying, you don't know what I know. Well, what did you know? We have new information.

What new information?

Because none of it is quoted anywhere.

And he's never answered the question.

What new information?

Most importantly, you have the grand conspiracy line.

We are not going to save the country, unless we do our own homework. Then listen to people and say, let me start at the opposite ends. Let me start with Glenn Beck and CNN.

And let me see what both of them are saying. Okay.

I think they both agree on this one thing. So I know that's true. But I think Glenn is more right. Or CNN is more right on this.

And then you just keep narrowing it in. And all it does is not form your opinion. It helps verify for you what you think is right.

Or it changes your opinion, because you realize, I missed that.

I didn't understand that. So when we're looking at all of this stuff needs to be transparent. We need to know all of the information.

Yes, we do.

But we also are played, every single day by many times, the exact same actors, who do not have a good bone in their body.

They're trying to destroy us. They're trying to separate us and divide us.

And they have proven themselves to lie at any level, without thinking about you or the ramifications.

And we continue to listen to them, over and over and over again.