RADIOJune 14, 2023

Glenn: New TikTok filter could be DISASTROUS for society

Earlier this year, TikTok unveiled a new filter (the ‘Glamour’ filter) which could bring with it DISASTROUS consequences for our society. Glenn and Stu explain how this new filter doesn’t just smudge some edges or add makeup — it completely TRANSFORMS your face into one that looks like a model’s. What will this mean for teenage girls? How will this affect beauty standards? Why aren’t the same women who were once outraged at magazines for photoshopping images speaking out in the same way now? And is this kind of terrifying filter available for TikTok users in China, or just in the Western World? Glenn and Stu discuss all these questions, plus more…

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GLENN: Hey, the Chinese government has just introduced a new filter on TikTok that's going to be really good for all of us, especially our girls.

You're going to love this.

STU: Remarkable.

GLENN: This is a new filter that you can put on all of your TikToks. And it is making, you know, beautiful women and average-looking women and a few not so good-looking women, look like models.

STU: They all look incredible, in realtime.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: Even on mobile. And these filters, which are -- have a basis in a computational model of facial beauty, will alter your face in realtime, not look a little bit better. We've all seen filters, right?

It blurs a little bit. And it makes your skin look a little bit more smooth, or whatever. And this changes you completely into an incredibly good-looking person -- version of yourself.

GLENN: And it's not just like a makeup effect.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: I mean, it's -- it actually alters your face, into -- takes what you have, but then alters it in such a way, to where it beautifies you.

STU: Yeah. I retweeted this at Stu Does America. If you want to see some of the back and forth. And the commentary in some ways, is as valuable as the picture. Because the picture will make your jaw drop, when you see what these people really look like.

But then also, every one of them has this reaction like, oh, my gosh, I look so beautiful. And then they show their real face. And they say, oh, gosh, I've never felt more ugly.

What is this going to do to people?

GLENN: Oh, it's terrifying. It is terrifying. And, you know, I have to tell you, the first though was, how do I get one of these for our cameras? But that was really more about you, than me. You know, I know what I'm inflicting on you, if you happen to be watching.

STU: Right.

GLENN: There's a reason I'm on radio, you know.

STU: No kidding.

GLENN: Shut up.

Because you're there too.

STU: No kidding.

GLENN: If you're watching on the Blaze. I don't know if you can take it from behind me, and show what's on the screen. But this -- this woman, she is pretty. She just looks like she got up in the morning. Right? She doesn't have any makeup on. But she looks pretty. And look at that.

Now she's a -- an absolute model.

And she is -- she's one of them that's like, this is -- they're all saying the same thing. This is bad for society.

STU: Yeah. My initial two reactions were the same as yours. Which is, oh, my gosh, this is terrible for society.

How do I get this on every camera I use? The market is going to push this through. It's too good. It's too good.

Everyone will want to look like this. Especially when you have an entire society based on turning people into broadcasters.

GLENN: When you -- when you -- for instance, let's say I would use this.

And then I would be out in public. And they would be like, oh, my -- he's a dog face boy. What happened? You know what I mean?

STU: You know what, Glenn. What does being out in public even matter anymore, to these people? There is it don't out in public. There's just this camera. There's just the social media.

GLENN: But then think about how hollow this is.

Let's say you become famous, because you're so beautiful. But you're only beautiful in the virtual world.

And you get all kinds of attention, and all kinds of love and blah, blah, blah. And you're so hot. And then you go out in the real world, and you're the dog face boy.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: You're not going to want to be out in public anymore.

STU: Right.

There is no, and then you go out in public. Right?

That just ends --

GLENN: It's terrifying.

STU: It ends.

And it's just going to screw with people.

Think of -- think of the teenage girls. We've been talking about it for a while. Who already have all sorts of problems, and what it's doing to their brains.

GLENN: Can I say, where are the women's groups? Do you remember when we used to complain?

STU: Glamour Magazine is Photoshopping. Oh, are they? That's a real problem compared to this.

GLENN: Yeah. Where are those people? I will tell you, I will not -- I started my dad years, just thinking, I would have loved to be a child in this era, because it has everything. You know what I mean?

Anything you want, you have access to. And now, as I have teenagers and I see the pain they're in all the time -- you go to school, and the girl -- my gosh. Girls are so vicious to each other.

You think, you know, I am so sick of hearing about boys and, you know, how bad boys are. And men are.

Girls are vicious. They are absolutely vicious with one another.

But my daughter comes home. My son comes home.

I can't imagine all of the pressures. My sisters had, you know, Vogue magazine, or what was the one you just said? Glamour.

STU: Glamour, Cosmo.

GLENN: Cosmo. They had those. That, you know, I can't live up to that.

STU: Right.

GLENN: This. How is can't daughter or your son -- does it do it to men?

STU: It does. And I haven't -- the transitions don't seem as dramatic with guys, I guess.

GLENN: Of course not.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: It just maybe puts us in pants, instead of cargo shorts.
(laughter)

STU: You just have my shirt no longer has wrinkles.

GLENN: We can't do any more than that.

STU: That's it. We're not scientists here.

GLENN: And isn't that weird that it's mainly for women? That they don't really have it for guys?

Women are already so freaked out about their looks. Guys are like, oh, I've got -- oh, yeah. It's just a piece of baloney been stuck in my beard for a week.

I'm sorry. Thank you.

STU: Yeah. Remove spinach from your teeth.

GLENN: Right. That's all it does. That's all it does.

STU: The guy who is talking about it on Twitter said, the effect seems to do different things to different people. On men in general, it's very subtle. Not so subtle on women, much harsher and unrealistic expectations. But even on men, it's not just makeup. It makes structural changes to the face.

You know, and you just look at this. And you're saying, you know, as we deal with this, think of --

GLENN: It's incredible.

STU: Now even the real people have turned into the AI models. Right?

You're not even seeing people anymore.

Think of every advertisement. Think of every account you follow.

These people will all start using this stuff.

GLENN: Think of this, when they say they airbrush her hips to be a little bit -- no.

No. No. This is so far beyond that.

And it's being done in realtime, to your daughters.

STU: And the market --

GLENN: Get off TikTok.

STU: Yeah. But wait. Just because it comes directly from the Chinese Communist Party. You think I should remove it from my phone?

Why wouldn't I carry it around with me, everywhere, with every piece of monitoring technology, that the Chinese government could ever beg for. Isn't that a better option?

GLENN: I would -- I would love to see if TikTok is doing this to their own people. I highly doubt it.

STU: Lots of times they aren't. Their algorithms often will promote, hey, here's some -- some incredible -- an accomplishment. A female, Chinese scientist. Like, for example, releasing a plague on the -- on the world.

They'll promote these incredible achievements.

GLENN: We like to call her "bat lady."

STU: Bat lady. Here's bat lady. She's -- remember coronavirus? That was her!

GLENN: She changed the world!

STU: She sure did. Look how many millions of capitalists she destroyed.

But they will -- like, these incredible achievements by Chinese citizens, they will promote those in the TikTok algorithm there. And then for us, internal to America, we get people who have had tragedies, who have been -- you know, who are developing Tourette's Syndrome out of nowhere.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: You know, all of the Tide pods.

GLENN: Yeah. You just get all of the -- yeah, you get the dumbest of the dumb, which just --

STU: Dumb. Victimhood. Tragedy.

That's what gets promoted there, to our algorithm.

GLENN: And people think that we're not really in a war with China. They think that -- I mean, even my own family. I -- my wife has TikTok. My wife -- I bet your wife has TikTok.

STU: Good God, of course she does.

Half the time I'm saying this to her, hoping she's listening.

GLENN: Right. And it's like, okay. Guys, we got to stop with TikTok. Got to stop with TikTok. It's really bad. Yeah. I know. I know. It's gathering information on everybody.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's gathering information on everybody. If I would have said, hey. By the way, the Nazis -- the Nazis are back in Germany, Hitler is actually alive. And they have this device where they're gathering all the information on you.

You might say, that's a bad idea. I'm not going to help them.

STU: And I will also mention, their genocide killed far fewer people than the one in China.

GLENN: Thank you.

STU: So, yeah.

I think it's kind of a bad idea. And, you know, look, I think -- this is a debate that will go on until the end of time.

I mean, these -- these -- this is such an egregious one.

Look, Mark Zuckerberg is really annoying. You know, Mark -- I don't think -- I don't want to give my information to Mark Zuckerberg either.

I don't want to give it to Google either. I don't want to give it to Apple either. But like, when it's actually owned by the Chinese Communist Party, is there no line?

I mean, seriously, this party is literally responsible for more deaths than the Nazis. They currently have millions of people in prison camps, and are basically at war with us. They just floated a freaking balloon over our country, to spy on us.

And we're like, I think they can get access to everything I've ever done. And my location at all times. And all my photos. And all the words I've typed and then deleted.

And everything -- they should have access then. They seem like nice people.

I don't know.

Sounds like there's a flaw in the logic somewhere.

Somewhere.

GLENN: When you have -- when you have -- when you have TikTok. Correct me if I'm wrong.

They monitoring everything. So if you do your banking online.

That's all being sent to the Chinese communist government.

They know your banking.

Your banking code. They've got it all.

STU: Certainly, they deny they have that.

GLENN: Of course, they do.

STU: But there have been many security experts and agencies that have come out and said, no. They are doing -- I mean, they have access to basically everything.

GLENN: Everything. Even what you deleted.

So I'm typing, you know what, you SOB, you better -- I better not do that. Delete, delete, delete.

Hey, Mike, you know, I was really disappointed in our conversation. You know what I mean? They have the first draft. They have everything.

STU: Again, a lot of people are like, well, I don't care. I never do anything that I would have a problem with --

GLENN: The Chinese.

STU: -- being public. Or having the Chinese -- I don't do anything. And I get that. A lot of people haven't. For example, I doubt that's true. You know, one of the things we talked about before, is this theory of cloudburst. The cloudburst apocalypse, which is, we put everything up in the cloud. It all sits up there. What if, at some point, AI, for example, hacks all of it at once. And releases all of it. Everything you've typed on a private message, on your computer.

Every photo you've ever put anywhere. What if all of that, for everyone comes out on the same day in a searchable fashion?

Theoretically possible in the future. And, yes. You might think, well, I never did anything. First of all, I doubt it. If everything you ever typed got out there, you're telling me, you wouldn't have friendships that blew up, at the very least? Not to mention, your financial future.

But forget that for a second. You are helping to fund this effort, which is targeting people all around the world. That did do something that might run afoul of the Chinese government.

You're helping fund it. You're giving them money. You're funding the operation, when they go and take down some dissident in a helpless person in some other country.

GLENN: All right. By the way.

STU: You're doing all of that.

GLENN: That's on TikTok, and you'll be able to find the rest of this monologue on TikTok later on this afternoon.

This AI could change EVERYTHING by next year

With Elon Musk’s announcement of Grok 4, humanity is closer than ever before to creating AGI – artificial general intelligence – which would change everything. Glenn Beck breaks down what’s coming in the next year with AI, which even Elon Musk called “terrifying.”

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GLENN: Let me tell you the biggest story of the day.

And I think it is the biggest story possibly of all mankind, as of today.

It's going to change rapidly.

I don't know if anybody -- did either of you guys watch the Elon Musk thing last night?

STU: No, I did watch a few minutes of it.

GLENN: Okay. Did you, Jason?

JASON: No. I sure didn't.

GLENN: Okay. So the xAI team was there to unveil Grok 4. This is the latest intelligence, and let me be very, very clear.

Last night was not your typical tech launch. This is a moment that demands everyone's full attention.

We are now at the crossroads, where promise and peril are going to collide. Okay?

I have explained to you, for years, AGI.
AI. AGI. And ASI. Narrow intelligence is what we've always had.

General intelligence is the next step. And that is, it's better that man, one -- one, you know, like Grok. Can do everything. That you can do.

Better that you can do.

Okay?

And then there's super intelligence. ASI.

Artificial super intelligence.

That's when things get really, really creepy.

When you hit AGI, the road to ASI could be overnight.

Okay?

We need to understand what's at stake here. Because Grok four brought us closer to that second stage, than ever before.

Grok four is a powerhouse. They demonstrated it last night.

It surpasses the expertise of Ph.D.-level sailors in all fields.

It can get 100 percent on any -- any test for any field, mathematics, physics. Engineering.

You name it.

This is not a search engine.

This is a system that tackles problems, so intricate, they -- they go beyond our existing knowledge base.

Okay?

Let's say there is -- let's say, we have a fusion reactor. And the magnetic containment system goes down. I don't even know what I'm talking about at this point.

But it goes down.

And the top minds all on earth are like, I don't know what to do. Grok 4 can step in, model the physics, design new material, stabilize the system, and avert catastrophe. And it can do it about that fast. Now, this is the capability, that Musk says is just around the corner.

Mark my words. You know, how many -- how many years did I say, between 2027 and 2030, we would start to see this?

STU: Oh, a million times.

That was always --

GLENN: For years. Right? Yeah, always the window.

And everybody, even Ray Kurzweil said, oh, that's way too optimistic. We may be 2050.

And then people started going, 2040, 2030.

Grok shows us 2026 or 2027 is when we're going to hit it. This is the last year, that we have, before things get really weird.

Okay?

Last night, Elon Musk is touting this -- this AI.

And all of the solutions.

And then he says.

Hmm. Probably three times.

Something like this.

And I'm quoting. This is one of them.

It's somewhat unnerving to have created intelligence that's greater than our own.

He then goes on to call it terrifying, twice.

Now, this is a man who has launched rockets, you know, into orbit.

Going to Mars.

And he says, twice!

You know, after he sees the results of it. He says, you know, it's really -- in a way, quite terrifying to see what it's doing.

But we just have to make sure that it remains good!

Oh, okay.

All right. Sure.

Now, the key point in the announcement was the mention of ARC-AGI.

I had never heard of ARC-AGI. I had no idea what it was. But I noticed AGI. And I went, uh-oh. That sounds important. So this is the gold standard. The bench mark testing for artificial general intelligence.

Okay.

As I've said before, AGI. Artificial General Intelligence is a machine that matches all human cognition, across all domains.

Reasoning, creativity.

Problem solving. Not just specialized tasks like playing Go or analyzing x-rays. Everything. For instance, Musk said by mid-next year to the latest end of next year, it will be able to create a full length movie, just from a text prompt.
And do it all at once!

So, in other words, it will say, create a movie, and you just explain the Godfather.

It will do the casting. It will do the writing. It will do the filming, if you will. It will -- score the music, and it will happen that fast.

Almost in realtime. We are nowhere near the computational power now, to do that separately.

But this will do it all at once. It will make a movie with all of it, simultaneously.

So the arc AGI system is the benchmark on how close we are to AGI. Remember, scary things happen at AGI.

Terrifying things happen at ASI. ASI could be a matter of hours, or days after we hit AGI.

Grok 4 scored 16.2 percent on the ARC-AGI scale.

Why is that important? You're like, well, only 16 percent away.

Because last time, it barely broke 8 percent.

And that -- they took that test, last time with Grok three.

And it took us forever to get to 8 percent.

Now, what is it? A year later.

We're at 16 percent. Remember, these things are not linear. The next time, we could be at 32, we might be at 64.

We are on the verge. This is the last year of -- I can't believe I'm saying this. Of normalcy. Okay?

This year is -- we're going to look back at this year, probably two years ago, gosh, remember the good old days, when everything was normal.

And you could understand everything.

This is how close we are!

Everything you and I talked about last night, Stu, about what we're doing in January, make -- put -- does it make it even more critical that that happens like, oh, I don't know.

Right now.

STU: Yeah. For sure.

GLENN: You are going to need to know your values, your ethics, your rights.

You are going to need to know absolutely everything.

Now, Grok 4 is not true AGI yet.

It lacks the full autonomy and the generalized reasoning of a human mind. But it is the closest that we've come.

It's a system that can adapt, innovate, at a level that outpaces specialized AIs by a wide margin.

This is a milestone. This is not a destination, but it's something that should jolt everybody awake. So here's what's coming over the next six months. By December 2025, that's this Christmas!

December 2025, he believes, Musk, that Grok 4, will drive breakthroughs in material sciences.

So, in other words, imagine a new -- brand-new alloy, that is lighter than aluminum. Stronger than steel.

And it revolutionizes aerospace and everything else, or a drug that halts Alzheimer's progression, tailored to a person's DNA.

Grok will drive breakthroughs through material science. So brand-new materials that nobody has ever thought of.

Pharmaceuticals that we never thought could be made.

And chemical engineering, putting together chemicals that no man has ever thought.

That's going for happen by December.

Imagine a chemical compound that makes carbon capture, economically viable. The climate change stuff, that's over.

It will be over.

Because this will solve that! These are not fantasies.

This is Grok 4.

Musk said something that he never thought. He believes that within the next year, by 2027, Grok 4 will uncover new physical laws.

So that will rewrite the understanding -- our understanding of the entire universe.

That there will come -- like there's gravity. Hey, you know what, there's another law here that you never thought of. Wait. What?

That, he says, will come by 2027. This is going to accelerate human discovery, at an unprecedented scale.

I told you, at some point. I said, by 2030. It might be a little earlier than that.

Things will be happening at such a fast rate, you won't be able to keep up with them.

And it will accelerate to the point to where you won't even understand what all of this means.

Or what the ramifications are!

Are you there yet?

In six months, Grok 4 could evolve into a system, that dwarfs human expertise in economics, defense, all of it.

Now, again, it's a bit terrifying to quote Elon Musk. Why?

Because we don't know, what else comes with this.

This is like an alien life form.

We have no idea, what to predict. What it will be capable of.

How it will view us, when we are ants, to its intellect.

Okay?

It is a tool, but it is also Pandora's box.

If Grok 4 is the biggest step towards AGI.

And maybe one of the last steps to AGI.

My feeling is: What I've been saying forever.

2027 to 2030, I'm leaning more toward the 2027 now.

Because of this announcement last night.

We are on the verge of AGI.

And everything in human existence changing overnight.

And as Musk said himself, two times, it's terrifying!

We should act like it is terrifying.

Or risk losing the control of the future, that we're all trying to build. That's the biggest story of the day.

I think! In my opinion.

Bill O'Reilly reveals how Trump can END Epstein files nightmare overnight!

Bill O'Reilly joins Glenn Beck with his plan for how the Trump administration can fix the Epstein Files fallout "overnight." Plus, he explains why he believes there's only one way that former FBI Director James Comey and former CIA Director John Brennan get indicted by a grand jury.

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GLENN: All right. Bill O'Reilly.

Welcome to the program, sir! How are you?

BILL: Welcome. (inaudible)

And right off the bat, I have to correct you.

GLENN: Yeah. You're not alive. What know.

BILL: I mean, you know -- you don't know that?

GLENN: Yeah, yeah. No. I -- I thought you were dead. Anyway --

BILL: You were dead to me, oh!
(laughter)
I --

GLENN: I get it.

BILL: That's just another brick in your wall, Beck.
(laughter)

GLENN: It's good to talk to you, Bill.

Tell me -- you had a conversation with -- with President Trump, what, a couple of months ago, and I talked about --

BILL: Yeah. St. Patrick's Day, he invited me to sit on a cabinet meeting, which he does sometimes.

And he said, look, we've got files, Kennedy, King, Epstein -- what do you think? And I said, well, first Kennedy you've got to put out pretty much everything, which he did. King, he didn't. I don't know why. Because that's important too.

And then on Epstein I said, you have to be careful here, because this is now being used in political precincts. Both sides want to destroy anybody that was associated with Epstein. And the problem is that a federal investigation. They don't make a determination whether you had a -- what kind of relationship you had with Epstein. They just said, so-and-so had lunch with him.

Or maybe so-and-so had -- saw him at a party. And I said, any name of a human being associated with Epstein, in any way, that person is going to be destroyed. Because you know, the press is not going to put anything into context.

So I said, but it's very important that the Justice Department tell the folks what they know.

And you don't have to get specific with anything.

But you have to say, this is the information that we've compiled. And that's not hard.

And I don't know why the Trump administration is not doing that.

GLENN: Wow!

So, first of all, it's your fault, that we're not getting any names. We learned a lot here.

BILL: Probably my fault, but the president --

GLENN: You know what, I think you're right. I don't want all the names of the people. I want to know --

BILL: And I don't either.

GLENN: Right! I want to know the Justice Department has sorted through the things, and then have gone through. And said, this is criminal. This is not. These people are being indicted, et cetera, et cetera. But to come out and say, there is nothing there, I mean, it's -- it's at least --

BILL: It's ridiculous.

GLENN: It's mass incompetence, at least from Pam Bondi. How could she come out and say, it's all sitting on my desk?

And then when she doesn't release it, she says, well, that's because the FBI in New York is thwarting this process. There are people up there, that are trying to keep this from me.

And then she makes no arrests on that. We never hear about that again.

And then now all of a sudden, there's nothing to see.

BILL: Well, listen, Pam Bondi does not make decisions on her own.

No cabinet member does.

All the decisions come out of the West Wing.

So what I believed happened was, Trump was so obsessed with the big bill, with Iran, with Putin, with China.

That this -- they didn't even think about this. Okay?

GLENN: I believe that.

BILL: And it slowly began to unravel. And then I caught it by surprise.

But this is the easiest fix. Somewhere so easy.

BILL: So if I'm in charge, and that would be a great thing for everyone, except you, Beck -- but every other American, if I were in charge, tremendous. You would be in Botswana. Right.

GLENN: Right. Oh, I know.

Yeah. Yeah. I would be the ambassador of the white farmers in -- in South Africa if it were up to you. I know. I know.

BILL: No. You would be wandering around going, I am Glenn Beck. And they would go, who? That's what you'd be doing.

GLENN: That's every day.

BILL: So this could happen within the hour. Pam Bondi announces a press conference for tomorrow.

At that press conference, sitting next to her, is Merrick Garland, everyone.

You had this stuff for four years! Now, I understand that Mr. Garland has gone native and is living in a -- well, we can find him. We can pull him out of there, and have him and Pam, sit there and answer questions in a general way about what evidence the Justice Department of the United States has compiled.

GLENN: Not going to happen.

BILL: That's it!

Well, if it's not going to happen, then President Trump is going to take a hit.

But he's calculating that this will say that it's that night important.

But I don't know why you would not do it.

I just don't know. And I'm usually pretty good at predicting what the president does or does not do.

GLENN: So here's the thing, Bill.

I think he keeps focusing on Epstein. It's not that big of a deal.

It's not about Epstein. It's about justice.

It's about, can we trust the people -- correct!

It's all about credibility and justice.

And he's not seeing that. And I don't know how he's missing that. Because I agree with you.

He's been so busy on so many other things.

BILL: That's right. That's right.

GLENN: This is not at the top of his priority list.

But he did campaign on it.

BILL: Right.

And I don't know if there's anybody inside the White House.

He looks to be annoyed, when this subject comes up.

GLENN: Oh, I know.

BILL: And here's the -- what works -- you have to understand.

A guy like Donald Trump runs it all.

If he's annoyed, nobody will want to annoy him more. Okay?

GLENN: Oh, I know.

BILL: That's how it works. The older arch is, because Epstein got favorable treatment.

By the feds, in the first go around in Florida, that there's a deep suspicion about this case.

But if you break it down, if the Biden administration had any dirt on any Republican associated with Epstein. It would have been out.

And vice-versa.

If the Republicans had any dirt on any Democrats. Now, we know that former president Clinton, was involved with Epstein to some extent.

I don't know if that was a factor, okay? I don't know.

But your right for once. You're right. It's about credibility. It's about the American people trusting that we do have equal justice for all!

So what do you -- what do you make of now the Russia gate thing, coming out, today. Or yesterday.

The FISA court.

The fact that they're now saying, hey.

You know, we need to hold Brennan accountable.

We're like five or six days away.

Weeks away from him, you know, slipping past the -- the statute of limitations.

I mean, all these things are out today.

There's that. There is also the -- let's see here.

The Secret Service -- I think this happened a year ago.

But it's being reported as if it's news.

Secret Service suspends six agents assigned to protect Trump during a Butler assassination attempt. I mean, all these things are coming out. Like, look, we're busy on all these things. And I do believe they're busy on these things.

But it's like the Keystone Cops are in charge of the PR on this. It's bad.

BILL: Well, there's a lot of politics involved in both of those cases. Number one, in order to get Comey and Brennan to get indicted by a grand jury. Federal grand jury, and that's the only passage, you would have to have a whistle-blower, saying, yeah, these guys abused their power. I worked for them. And they absolutely wanted to get Trump.

And they knew the Russia dossier was phony.

And they did it anyway.

If I have that Justice Department.

Then you can get those guys.

If you don't have it, they will not be even indicted by a grand jury.

GLENN: So how is it that we do not have that Justice Department?

How do we not have that Justice Department?

BILL: Well, look. I don't know whether they have a whistle-blower or not, okay?

And if they have a whistle-blower, I want the case to go forward.

I want those two men indicted.

You can't do that, at that level.

As far as the Secret Service is concerned, monumental screw up. Everybody knows it. They fired the morons in charge of it. That woman -- I was embarrassed listening to her, trying to explain.

They didn't know what the deuce was going on. But this was across-the-board, in the Biden administration.

You know, it was a year ago Sunday, this upcoming Sunday.

GLENN: Right.

BILL: And it's just another example of how the Biden administration was the second worst administration in the history of this country. People have no idea how bad it was.

Every single agency was chaotic. Nothing worked. And this is just part of that. And we'll have a slew of stuff on Sunday. Nothing really meaningful.

I mean, they suspended the Secret Service agents, as they should have. They fired the director as they should have. The guy was a nut.

I don't know if there was anything more to that. I doubt it.

I'm more interested in the guy in the bushes. Because they don't know anything about him. I would like to know a little bit about him.

But again, the federal government, it doesn't really matter. It's the government. They never want to tell us stuff, Beck, never.

We always have to pull it out of them. It's almost like Russia or something. Come on!

GLENN: Right. Yeah. Let me ask you, let me take you back again to the Epstein thing.

I noticed yesterday, there were these people who were on the left. Who were taking tweets of mine. That say, look. These things don't make sense. On the Epstein thing. And they just have to be answered. And not anti-Trump at all.

And yet, the anti-Trump people were retweeting that, and they're trying to -- they're trying to get the right to fight against itself again and split people away from Donald Trump, where I don't think this Epstein thing is -- is splitting people from Donald Trump, at least at this point.

And I -- you know, I -- my wife stopped me from answering some of those tweets, yesterday.

Because it's never good, when you -- when I tweet in anger. Which I did.

But -- or was going to. What did you think about how this is being used against the right to try to separate us even more?

BILL: Everything is political. Everybody knows that for you.

But the MAGA people, from the mail I get. And I get a voluminous amount of mail. They're not happy.

GLENN: Oh, I agree. I'm not happy.

BILL: Now, are they going to throw President Trump under the cliché-ridden bus? No. Because to them, the greater good is being served by a fair tax bill.

Trying to cut waste.

Dealing with Iran effectively. And hopefully dealing with Putin.

That's another thing, that's on Trump's plate.

He has to deal with Putin now.

Has to. And that will be the next big story.

GLENN: How is he going to deal with it?

BILL: Lavrov and Rubio, are in Indonesia, as we speak.

And I assume that Rubio is delivering a message. That you either stop, or we're going to just absolutely crush you economically. Which the United States can do. By saying. No bank does business with Moscow.

And if you do business, no matter what bank you are, we're going to put you out of business.

Okay?

GLENN: Yeah. I've only got a couple of seconds. But didn't we already do that under Biden?

BILL: No! We didn't do the banks. We did the sanctions. And the sanctions they can always get around, because China is going to buy as much oil from Russia as possible.

You stop the banks, from doing all business with Moscow? Who is going --

GLENN: Isn't that what the SWIFT thing was all about?

When we kicked them off of SWIFT, wasn't that what that was all about?

BILL: No! Because they can still do a huge business with countries buying their oil.

And they got to pay Putin and Russia for the oil, and that has to go through the banking system.

If you stop the banking system, he can't get paid.

GLENN: Hmm, it's amazing. I'm glad I'm not the president right now. I think he's made some very brave decisions, and he is walking a tightrope. I mean, the world is on edge. And I pray for --

BILL: He looks very tired to me. Very tired. I haven't talked to him in a while, which is unusual. But you're right. You're absolutely right. That's the second time you've been right in this conversation. My God!

GLENN: I know. It's crazy.

BILL: What in the world.

GLENN: I was wrong about you being dead.

BILL: What is happening?

GLENN: It's good -- it's good to talk to you, my friend. Is everything okay? Is everything going well?

BILL: Everything is all right, Beck. We are not only successful, but that's old news. We've been that way for 50 years, but I appreciate you having me on your fine program.

GLENN: Okay. I love you.

BILL: Stu is still breathing.

GLENN: Hmm.

BILL: So that's good. Right.

But I've got a big book called Confronting Evil. Of course, we sent it, and of course you denied getting it. That comes out September 9th, so put me on a dance card.

GLENN: Well, we'll have you on. And you can also find Bill and his YouTube page. YouTube.com/BillOReilly. Or is it The Walking Dead?
(laughter)
He's not even laughing. Maybe he hung up. Bill O'Reilly, great to have him on.

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