The United States is once again on the verge of a government shutdown, but should Congress cave and pass a continuing resolution to spend a lot more money and save us all ... or do we not need saving? Glenn reviews what would actually happen under a government shutdown and which agencies we should probably shut down anyways. Maybe we need "15 Days to Slow the Spending."
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: All right. So here's what we have to do this weekend, beginning tonight at midnight, if we don't sign the CR, and continuing resolution, which will give just a buttload of money. Just keep spending, exactly like you were spending last year, and no real accountability for any of it.
And we have to add some more for a war.
If we don't sign that by tonight, we have to shut the government down. Pat Gray is joining us.
What will you do as of 12:01, tonight.
PAT: Well, Stu gave me a suggestion. Because I was confused what I would do when I came in. What am I going to do? What was your suggestion that I should do? Now, this is in the eventuality, of a government shutdown.
GLENN: Okay. Are you well read enough, to give a recommendation?
STU: I mean, I would be concerned if I was going to be held to some legal standard.
GLENN: Right. Because you're not not an expert.
STU: I'm not an expert. But I was thinking you could continue living your life exactly the same way.
PAT: Oh. Well, that's weird. What about the catastrophe that is -- what about that?
STU: Yeah. You would -- in this particular scenario. It's a fictional scenario, at some level.
GLENN: Okay. You're not a doctor. I think this is dangerous.
STU: What were the things you were going to do?
PAT: Do those things.
STU: The things you weren't going to do, don't do those.
PAT: It's crazy talk.
GLENN: All right. Hang on a second. Here's what's going to happen. Here's what's going to happen, okay? This is from the O and B. The Office of Management & Budget.
And they have now released the contingency plan.
So here's what's going to happen.
Now, please don't panic.
But economic indicators like the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the jobs report could -- could be delayed. This month.
PAT: Don't say that.
The federal mediation and conciliation service, which is charged with promoting labor management cooperation.
PAT: They'll still have that, right?
GLENN: Well, yes. Yes.
GLENN: However, they would have to cut back in its -- they won't close. But they'll have to cut back in some of the things they do.
And this all amid the strike with the auto workers.
PAT: Oh, my gosh.
GLENN: What are the unions and the -- and the -- you know, the plants going to do? Without federal officials. They'll never be able to do anything.
PAT: No, they won't.
STU: And the thing is, we're so a used to high efficiency from the government. That when you lose that -- society --
PAT: It all goes sideways.
GLENN: Time to throw everyone a bone here, so you don't panic. The Federal Reserve activity will be unaffected. So they can still raise the interest rates on November 1st, no matter what happens.
GLENN: The Federal Trade Commission, however, would stop the vast bulk of its competition and consumer protection investigation.
PAT: You can't be serious.
GLENN: I am serious.
They have -- the vast bulk of them, would just stop.
STU: So some of them would continue?
GLENN: Yes. Yes.
STU: But the vast bulk of them -- what percentage does that translate to?
GLENN: Don't know. Vast bulk.
This is from the O&B.
The Security and Exchange Commission, will not review or improve registrations from investment advisers, broker dealers, transfer agents, rating organizations. Investment companies. And municipal advisers.
They're not going to be able to -- if you try to register --
PAT: At the SECC.
GLENN: You won't -- you won't be able to do it.
STU: What is that? For a new fund? Or something? New rating. A two-week process probably?
PAT: What about the FDIC? Do you have information on the FDIC?
GLENN: No, they still do not have all of the -- they're scrambling for this information.
STU: They didn't see this coming.
GLENN: Now, again, to give you some good news.
The IRS has not released this plan for the potential shutdown. However, previous plans have said that the IRS would use funds from Joe Biden's Inflation Reduction Act.
STU: Oh, good.
GLENN: To keep employees paid and working.
PAT: Thank heaven.
GLENN: And the union representing the IRS workers are saying, new plans are being discussed, that would involve some furloughs. However, businesses and individuals, who requested that six-month extension for your tax return in April. You will still be required to file by April 16.
PAT: Well, of course, you would.
STU: Yeah. By what date? October 16th. I was going to say, I thought I had more time.
GLENN: Yeah. Emergency relief is going to be a problem. A shutdown would create increased risk, that FEMA, their relief funds, could be depleted.
So there's a risk, that their funds could be depleted. If large additional catastrophic disasters occur. During the shutdown.
STU: Now, of course, they would very easily pass funding for that almost immediately. But still, we should deny that that would happen.
We will deny that any of these people will get their money afterward.
We all know they will retroactively pay off all of this stuff anyway. It will be a vacation for many people.
PAT: They've already done that. For many people. So, yeah. Sure.
GLENN: For those of you concerned about, hey. What about my energy?
What about the environment?
This is what this Draconian shutdown is going to do.
PAT: Thank you, Republicans.
GLENN: The interior department, which does all of the designing for the Capitol building, and the interiors, and pick out the drapes.
Oh, no. Apparently, it doesn't do that. The department of interior, will retain limited discretion to use permits for energy projects on federal lands and waters, when user fees are attached.
So they'll -- they'll retain just limited discretion, to issue those permits. You know, for drilling, and things like that.
PAT: They don't have full discretion.
GLENN: No. Not during a shutdown.
PAT: During a shutdown. Oh, no.
GLENN: A funding lapse would paralyze -- to develop would require environmental analysis for all energy projects. Highways. And other infrastructure.
The EPA, may be able to continue some IRA-funded activities.
As well as other attempted works such as settlement-funded cleanup at some Superfund sites.
PAT: Let's hope that is the case.
GLENN: Now. The White House is warning, most EPA led inspections at hazardous waste sites, as well as drinking water at chemical facilities, it's got to stop.
PAT: Oh, wow.
GLENN: So your drinking water. Could go completely -- it will stop.
PAT: It will turn to mud this weekend.
GLENN: Well, by Sunday. Maybe Monday.
The Energy Information Administration, which publishes snapshots of the US oil inventory.
It will continue to collect and publish data on schedule. But they say, at least initially.
At least initially. Our nuke sites are going to be maintained. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, however, will stop all licensing of new nuclear facilities.
PAT: Oh, there's so many of those going up too.
Because, I mean, we did the last one in 1978. And bang.
GLENN: This is going to stop.
PAT: Well, there's no new ones.
GLENN: But it will stop.
STU: This was the week. This was the week it would happen.
PAT: And now, thanks to you, MAGA Republicans.
GLENN: Right. Now transportation and travel.
Travelers could face delays as air traffic controllers and transportation security administration officers.
PAT: That will continue.
GLENN: Will be working without pay.
PAT: But without pay.
GLENN: Yeah. So people will --
PAT: I mean, they really are not. They will be paid. Just maybe not time.
GLENN: Right. Which is a hassle.
PAT: It is a hassle. I won't deny that.
GLENN: It is a hassle. However, Amtrak, they will keep transporting those 12 passengers. They will just keep going.
PAT: Is Ange going to continue to tell stories, about how many miles Joe Biden has traveled on the train.
Will he be there? Even in death, as he was when he told the story to Joe Biden?
GLENN: I don't know.
Now, passport and Visas will still be issued.
PAT: I thought those would be delayed. But they're not going to?
GLENN: Efforts to defend the nation and conduct ongoing military operations, will continue.
STU: That's good.
GLENN: Burials and tours, at Arlington National Cemetery would continue.
STU: Did anybody doubt, they would stop burying the bodies.
They'll just pile up, until we open up the government.
GLENN: COVID-19, response research including vaccine and therapeutic development by the US government will continue.
PAT: Will continue.
GLENN: The National Institute of Health, might have to postpone clinical trials for diseases like cancer or Alzheimer's, according to the White House. So this may throw him from solving cancer.
We were so close to him coming through with his promise of curing cancer, but it's the damn Republicans.
STU: We can actually check that at any point. If you go to, HasJoeBidenCuredCancer.com.
GLENN: Can you check that real quick? We're really close.
STU: Has Joe Biden cured cancer?
No. Cancer still exists as of today.
GLENN: Food stamps for low income people. The disabled, and others could be delayed.
There's no excuse for that. There's no excuse for that.
That is just to trot out the downtrodden.
The people that just say, look at what's happening. If the IRS can stay open, food stamps can stay open. Social Security checks will be delivered. Applications for benefits processed. However, people will not be able to verify benefits or replace cards.
Most national parks will be closed. The Smithsonian and the National Gallery of Art may close.
PAT: Don't say that.
GLENN: Cemeteries. Monuments. Visitor centers. Worldwide housed under the American Battle Monuments submission, will close.
STU: So are they -- and you said the national parks will close.
That means that many of these open field areas, will -- will not be opened?
GLENN: Yeah. They will -- they will build some fences around those things.
STU: Are they -- we don't seem capable of building fences.
GLENN: They're closed.
But I will tell you, you know they're big on the blue.
They will just be -- I make sure you're out there.
And you enforce that law.
You have somebody coming into the national park.
We don't have bathrooms that are open.
No. What are they going to do, poop in the woods, what kind of animals do you think we are?
PAT: Well, we're animals that poop.
STU: Sometimes -- sometimes that works. At least for many, many centuries.
The Capitol Police will not get paid under this.
STU: They will -- they will --
PAT: They're under assault again. Just as they were during the insurrection.
STU: By the same people. The extreme MAGA Republicans.
PAT: You're exactly right.
By the same people.
STU: Now they'll get their number later. But for now, they won't get paid.
Except, for them. Unlike thousands and thousands of other federal workers, they actually will still have to do a job.
Most of the federal workers that will get all their money and then not have to do their job for however long this takes.
Which is a terrible, terrible --
GLENN: Just -- I -- I am in. I am in.
I mean, I think we should take a vote, who wants to open it back up?
I think 15 days, to slow the curve of spending. Fifteen days. Let's just do that.
Let's meet again in 15 days. And see if we can open the government up.
STU: We probably --
GLENN: Well, we might. We might.
Fifteen days, to slow the curve of spending.
PAT: And then after that, 30 days are up. After 15, then the 30. We might need another 18 bucks after that.
GLENN: Well, I don't know -- I don't know if the government will survive that.
You know, it may not survive that. Of course, the American people did it for a year.
STU: Yeah, and they don't care about them surviving.
GLENN: No. Nobody really cared about them surviving.
STU: Can I also say too, we talk about these big government cuts that we should do. We think there are things to do, to make the government smaller, and more like it was supposed to be. You know, a limited government.
GLENN: Yeah. We're not talking about any of those, I want you to know.
STU: But maybe we are. You know, haven't they unintentionally identified all the cuts here. Haven't they just said, hey, whatever we're going to just stop doing, the unnecessary parts of the government that can just shut down.
GLENN: You mean those nonessential?
STU: Yeah. The nonessential stuff, we stop doing. And the essential stuff, we stop doing. And we'll go from there. We'll talk about, maybe we need to add this back in. Maybe we can get rid of this other thing.
But isn't that a good starting point? Whatever you say is nonessential, I promise you we should not be doing it.
GLENN: I'm not sure of that. I mean, you know, we're talking about --
We're talking about things like the interior department.
Just having limited discretion to issue permits.
STU: So there will be still issuing permits. But they will have limited vegetation.
Maybe we shouldn't be doing so much permitting. Maybe people should be able to do a lot of the things they want to do.
But if there are certain needs for certain permits. Then the limited permitting might just cover that.
GLENN: Well, you go ahead. While we're all drinking poison by next Wednesday.
Just from our tap, from our homes. While sludge, nuclear waste.
Syringes are pouring out from our kitchen sink.
PAT: So syringes might pour out of our taps?
GLENN: Yes. Yes.
STU: How do they get around the curves?
GLENN: Are you an expert?
GLENN: Are you a doctor?
STU: I'm not a doctor.
GLENN: I am. Let's move on. Very dangerous.
Keep going, Republicans. Keep going.
Do not buckle.