Is our IRS system WEAPONIZED against us?!

Happy Tax Day! Glenn, for one, is very excited to perform his patriotic duty of paying taxes. And he's not at all upset about how complicated and corrupt the IRS system has become or what our government is wasting all this money on! But is the fear of an audit the point? In this clip, Glenn and Stu discuss how the government has weaponized our tax code to be able to go after whoever they want, as well as some of the most un-American taxes out there ...


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GLENN: Stu, I have known you for, oh, 27 years. That can't be possible. Really?

STU: No. It's not that long, is it? I hope not.

GLENN: Yeah, well.

STU: Twenty-five. Something like that. Too long. Too long.

GLENN: Anyway, too long.

I've never known you to pay your taxes on time, ever.

STU: I don't think I've done it in that time period.

Now, it's possible at some point.

GLENN: At some point.

You always file for an extension.

STU: Always file for an extension.


STU: Well, part of it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Let's say you're 2013. And you file for an extension.

You have to pay that by October. Then you're like, two months away from the forms coming in.

So it's like, it just feels really close. You just did this them.

Then all of a sudden, you have to do them again. It's too close. I need an extension.

So you wind up shifting the entire calendar. To October to October instead of April to April like everyone else.

GLENN: Yeah, got it. Okay. Yeah. Sure.

STU: I will say, as time has gone on, there have been -- you know, I don't like to admit, that a couple of good things have happened. In my working career with you, and things have improved in some ways.

And in those ways, they have -- while a lot of good things come from maybe some extra income and such.

GLENN: Sure. Right.

STU: It also complicates your tax forms.

And now my full-time job is doing my taxes, and my part-time job is this.

GLENN: Go to the bank more now. Gosh, I feel bad.

STU: I mean, your ATM card gets worn down. I mean, honestly

GLENN: I know! He has to build a pool now.

STU: Compared to you and your taxes, my arc, super simple. Right?

GLENN: So I pay taxes in all 50 states.

STU: Well, probably not all 50. Because some of them don't have state income tax. Thank you, Texas. Thank you, Tennessee. Thank you, Florida.

GLENN: Good. Thank you.

So I pay any state, that is charging tax.
And I think, I don't even know how it works.

I think it started, when I started traveling and doing shows in states.

And you sell tickets. Now, if we sell T-shirts of anything in any state. I think I have to pay for it. I don't -- I don't really know.

I think it's a scam myself.

STU: We're just driving in each state. Do not come after us.

GLENN: Yeah. So usually, it's no big deal.

I owe the state of Georgia, like $23,000.

I don't think I was in Georgia last year. Georgia, what are you doing to me!

What did I do? Did I sell like a whole bunch of TheBlaze's socks or something.

Because I don't get that money. So maybe you should -- seriously, what did we sell or -- was I in Georgia?

STU: I don't remember you being in Georgia, but it's possible you were there.

GLENN: I don't think so.

STU: One of the things they do, especially for -- they call it the jock tax.

And it started really because of like baseball players. And, you know, baseball player. You live in Texas.

But you go play a game in California. And California is like, oh, wait a minute. That guy makes a lot of money. And he was here for a weekend. Jokers I pay New York. New York State, New York City, and California, if I ever broadcast, they make me pay tax for the number of days that I have been there.

STU: Yeah. They act like you worked there for one day, and therefore, you owe us income tax. Which is of course a completely ridiculous standard, but of course they apply it. And they apply it largely to people in the media, or who are playing for sports teams, because everyone knows where you are. Right?

If you're a person who is working a normal job.

GLENN: Nobody. Really cares.

STU: You're filing some spreadsheets out in California, no one does anything.

GLENN: And likely, your boss is not asking, is Fred here today? Where is Fred?

STU: Exactly. And especially with the homework thing. It's a totally different scenario. I know people who just bought campers during COVID. And just we're working every day from a different location, and investigating, and going through the United States. And checking out new areas.

GLENN: That's why campers are so cheap right now. They really are.

They're like crazy cheap.

STU: Why --

GLENN: Because everybody bought a camper.

They're like, this is the end! I got to get into a camper. And they got a camper, and now they're like, okay. It wasn't the end.

STU: I'll never use this again. I don't like driving those roads.

GLENN: Right. I actually went to the national parks. Holy cow. We'll never do that again.

STU: But back to the taxes part of this.

I'm now at the point where I have five forms that I know I have, that have not come in.

And I'm getting notes from the people. Yeah. I couldn't get this done. It's -- we'll get it to you in a couple of months. It will be to you before October, though, don't worry about it.

It's like, okay. Thank you. I guess that is extension time. And the best part about an extension, Glenn. I don't know you've enjoyed it, I'm sure you have. But I know you try to avoid this stuff as much as possible.

GLENN: I keep so far away from anything. Extension. I don't need an extension. Why would I need an extension? I wanted to do my patriotic duty. I stay so far away from anything gray!

STU: To be clear, an extension is not gray.

GLENN: Oh, I know it's not. I know it's not. But to me, it's just one of those things. Why didn't he pay his taxes? Why didn't he do it?

STU: But you have to do basically a guestimate.

How much do I owe these people. And you're like, okay.

And, of course, if you don't want to get penalized, you have to overestimate how much you're paying. So you have to dump a bunch of money to the government. And then overpay them a little bit, because you don't want to get to the point where you underpaid. Because even if you underpay on a real normal misunderstanding, they'll act as if you did it on purpose, and penalize you for it.

GLENN: This is so absolutely unAmerican. This whole thing is unAmerican.

STU: It really is.

GLENN: You know, the IRS coming to audit you. Do you have a warrant? Specifically, what are you saying I did?

This is one of the reasons why we broke away from the king of England. I think it's a writ of retainer, or something like that.

Writ -- I can't remember. But the king would just hand these out.

And it was a general warrant. And it was like, Stu was doing something in his house. Go in and look for it.

Okay? You can't do that. You could. But that's one of the first things we stopped. Well, the IRS does that. Looks like Stu must have done something. Give us all your receipts for the last seven years.

STU: Yeah. It's not even that. They don't have to have a belief of what you did wrong or if you did anything wrong, which is, we're just going to check all your work.

GLENN: And you know what, who are you to tell me you're going to check my work? I would like to check yours. Did you see that the inspector general's office for the IRS came out and said, you need to do a study. Because all -- these people are making the same mistakes over and over again. What are you guys doing that is causing these people to ask the same questions and have the same mistakes.

And their answer was, no.

STU: No, we're not going to do the study.

GLENN: No. I'm just suggesting you look in, because it will be easier. No. They don't care. They don't care.

STU: They don't care.

GLENN: This would be so easy, if it was a flat tax. So easy. I made this, subtract this from that. Put it in an envelope, send it.

Okay? I mean, that's how easy it is. This has become so complex.

I'm sitting with attorneys. And I'm trying to do the right things. And I'm sitting with the tax attorneys, just a couple of weeks ago. And I'm like, okay.

So what is the law on this?

Well, nobody really knows. Some people think this. Some people think that.

And I'm like, what kind of law is this?

Because if you have -- now, luckily, we don't have one. If you have a country, that is a little lawless, and just applies the lay differently, to different people, you can go after your enemies.

Just through the tax law.

Because nope. That's not the way I read it.

STU: Yeah. Everybody likes to praise the old Al Capone. Oh, they have him on tax evasion. Yeah. They could do that to anybody.

GLENN: They got him.

They got him on money laundering.

He was laundering the money. And didn't pay the taxes on the money, from the laundry service.

STU: Right. But they basically put him in a position, where it was impossible.

Because if he put the money on the tax forms, it would have been, he's laundering money. If he doesn't put it on there. It's tax evasion.

GLENN: Right. But the basic thing is. The basic thing is, he was making illegal money. I have no problem, if the IRS -- if I'm selling drugs, you know what I mean?

And I'm laundering it through a laundromat. The only way to stop me from selling drugs to kids.

I'm clearly a bad guy breaking the law. Is because the only thing you can find on me, is income tax, where I'm taking all that money and laundering it. I have no problem with that.

STU: I think though, when you think of that story, fundamentally.

Of course, anyone does something illegal. If you're laundering money, you should -- you should be penalized for it. If you've done something illegal. Obviously, we're all against that.

The way that story is used is, when somebody is doing something really bad and you know it and can't prove it, go after him on something else.

Eventually on taxes or something, you'll get him. That's how that story is often utilized.

GLENN: Yeah. No. No longer. So let me take it from Al Capone. And make it Hunter Biden.

The reason why Al Capone, they couldn't get him on anything, is because he was protected. He had a complete lock on the press. He had a complete lock with those who were doing any kind of banking with him.

He had thugs to silence people.

He had the power to get away with it.

So it's not like, I think somebody is doing some wrong. It's somebody that you know, but no one will step up, to the plate.

And it's such a heinous crime, guys, find the window into this.

I mean, this is -- this is the way I am beginning to feel about the Bidens.

Look, I don't want to go after anybody -- for anything -- if you've committed a crime. We go after you for the crime, you may have committed.

STU: Yeah, uh-huh.

GLENN: This is so clear, that the FBI and everybody else is just turning a blind eye, that you kind of -- you can look at it and go, you know, the only way you'll get justice, is if you get some -- you get somebody like what was his name that led the Treasury Department on this?

Gosh, what was his name. Eliot Ness.

STU: I thought you were talking about the Bidens.

GLENN: No, no, no. When you have Eliot Ness, you need somebody like an Eliot Ness to step up and say, no, I'm not with the rest of the Treasury.

STU: Yeah. I'll give you who Eliot Ness is right now. Alvin Brag.

That is exactly what is going on with Donald Trump right now.

They have decided he is so evil, they have to find something on him.

GLENN: Yeah. No, no, no, no. But they're part of the corrupt system that today's Al Capone is running.

They're part of that corrupt system.

STU: You're seeing it from the other side I'm seeing it from.

You're always the guy who says, how is this going to be used essentially against us?

It is being used against conservatives right now.

Look, I'm not being critical of the Al Capone thing.

GLENN: No, I know.

STU: But I do think this is what governments do. What they're doing with Trump right now is this man is so evil, he's so Hitler. He's so Satan.

That it doesn't matter if the things we're charging him with are real or not.

We just go after him.

Find something in this 65,000 pages of law, that we can convince a couple of people, that he's evil on.

Then we'll throw him away forever.

GLENN: That's the corrupt system.

Okay? That's the corrupt court system of Al Capone.

Donald Trump, there is no crime.

And if it is a crime, it's a misdemeanor.

This is like -- this is like Al Capone, the worst thing he ever did was jaywalk.

GLENN: Yeah. And they get him for income tax evasion. That's a legitimate laundering. What are you talking about? I'm a laundromat. You know what I mean?

STU: There are two sides of the story, here.

Obviously, the Al Capone thing was a lot more serious.

You do see how these governments, when you give them this tax code, with 100 million rules. That nobody understands.

To the point that I talk to my accountants. And I ask them, I said, how is this supposed to be treated? They go, as you point out, I don't know, some people say this. Some people say that.

There's nothing clear in the law. How does a society operate under this?

GLENN: You don't. It causes you to be fearful of the -- that's why people are fearful of the IRS.

I know I've never cheated on my taxes. Never.

And I would say that -- would I cheat on my taxes?

No, I wouldn't. Because then I would be a dishonest person. But I've never cheated on my taxes. Never. But still, you have the fear of, oh, man, they could come knocking on my door.

I mean, they audited me once. The first year that Obama was in. I got an audit in.

Clear. I think they even owed me money.

So I was clear. But it's still that you're something like, oh, no. Not the IRS.

STU: Right. And I know because of this job, I go way above and beyond, of what I even think is legitimate or fair. Because I'm terrified they're going to come --

GLENN: Right. I do too. For a political purpose. For a political purpose.

STU: I just assume it will happen every year. So I go way out of my way to make sure. But still, that's insane.


The 1 REASON why the Russia & Ukraine War hasn’t become WW3

Is Vladimir Putin’s restraint the ONLY reason why the Russia & Ukraine War hasn’t yet evolved into World War 3? Because if the situation was different — as Glenn plays out in this clip — there’s a high probability the United States would currently be fighting a world war. So, with such high chances of escalation, why are yesterday’s anti-war Democrats suddenly fully on board? Glenn explains it all in this clip, adding that though Russia’s invasion was ‘abhorrent,’ it’s clear many in Washington are choosing to take advantage of the situation rather than make the right decisions for the U.S.’ overall safety and security…


Glenn ranks Pride Month's WORST & WOKEST LGBTQ commercials

It’s officially June, which means you’re about to see Pride flags plastered all over the windows, merchandise, and social media pages of nearly every corporation throughout America. Why? So they can receive a high ESG score, of course! So, to celebrate Pride Month, Glenn ranks some of YOUR favorite companies’ worst and wokest LGBTQ commercials. From the North Face and Ford, to Bud Light and Converse, these are ads like you've never seen before... To see Glenn rank all top 10, watch the most recent Glenn TV Friday Exclusive (titled ‘Pride Propaganda’) which is available now on


4 stories that show your ESG score resistance IS WORKING!

Glenn has been warning about ESG for a while now, urging us all to take a stand against it. It’s a credit-style system placed onto corporations, ranking them based on environmental, social, and governance scores. Those scores can then affect the company's loans, financial stability, or banking relationships. And soon, ESG may be ranking YOU, too. But, thankfully, Americans have been taking a stand. And that stand seems to be working. In this clip, Glenn details four recent stories that show ESG may be on the decline…


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GLENN: Good news on the ESG front.

Insurance company, lords of London, has announced its exit from a net zero alliance. For insurers.

This is the sixth insurance company in the last couple of weeks.

The Net Zero Alliance convened by the United Nations, seeks to commit group members composed of the world's leading insurers, and reinsurers, to fight climate change.

As part of this, members have to transition their insurance and reinsurance, under portfolios to net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.

On Friday, Lloyds of London quit the Net Zero Association, took the total members who have quit. I'm sorry. Not last couple of weeks. One week.

Last week alone, to six, which represents a fifth of the total 30 members. Since March, the total of ten members, have walked.

STU: Yeah. Yeah. Good.

GLENN: This is really, really good.

How about this one?

Germans are questioning. Remember, you American. You right-wing American. Hate-mongering. Mao information delivering conspiracy theorist.

We're not banning gas. We're not thinking about banning gas stoves or gas heaters.

We're not doing it. Except we are.

The Germans, such right-wing conspiracy theorists. Germans are banning gas and oil boilers.

And replace them with electric heat pumps.

Germany wants to become net zero by 2045. To this and the government recently announced, it will ban gas boilers, effectively forcing people to switch to heat pumps.

Because our electricity will be much better for the planet.

Yeah. Because we won't be making any.

The cost of the ban is estimated at over 9 billion euros.

Or $10 billion.

And that's annually, annually, until 2028.

So they're upset go. They're starting to March in the streets as well. How about this one? This is the first time. This is the first time. This is how you know climate change is complete bullcrap. Okay?

Because insurance companies are still writing 30-year insurance policies for Miami. Well, I thought it was going to be underwater.

STU: Yeah, there's a lot of construction in Miami. I don't know if you have been there recently.

GLENN: How do you get the insurance companies to do it? They're writing it? It's all going to be destroyed by water. How does anybody afford insurance on an island or a coast or a Malibu?

Okay. They can do it because global warming is bullcrap.

Now, State Farm general insurance has now stopped accepting all new application for business and personal lines of property and casualty insurance today for California.

Now, see. See. You can't get insurance.



Because -- now, they say, due to historic increases in construction, costs. Outpacing inflation.

Rapidly growing catastrophe exposure, and challenging reinsurance market, the change does not affect existing home insurance.

If you already have that. Just new. State Farm is one of California's biggest insurers. The biggest home insurer by premium volume.

They say, global warming. But what they're citing is wildfires. Mudslides.

STU: All from global warming.

GLENN: Yeah. All of it, from global warming.

So here's what's going to happen: State Farm pulls out and says, we're not going to insure anything anymore.

What happens?

The government will step in and say, well, we have to have insurance.

And so the United States government will step in, to insure all those houses that really shouldn't be there, California.

I mean, if you're worried about wildfires and mudslides. And the coastline. You should just pack up all those houses and go away.

You should go is someplace, like Puerto Rico.

No. I like Puerto Rico.

You should go someplace. Well, maybe you'll be happy in Canada. I usually like Canada.

But it's gone away. You'll be happy there. They're already putting people to sleep. No pills for grandma. Let's kill her. You will love Canada.

Now, let me take a one-minute break.

And come back, and tell you about Target.

Oh, I feel -- I feel so bad about what's happening to Target. Yeah. Their losses are starting to pile up.

People don't seem to be slowing down on this.

And you'll never guess who is involved in making sure that they're ESG compliant.

Yeah. You know what, it's almost the same group of people, that wanted those crazy, you know, transgender nuns.

At the baseball game. Maybe they were canceled. And they were like, whoa. Whoa. We didn't realize, our conscience.

We couldn't sleep at night, doing that. This wasn't because of pressure at all.

We want those lesbian trans nuns right here for baseball.

Because baseball apple pie, and transgenderism.

That's what we've always said.

Yeah, is it? Or was there a wee bit of pressure?

You don't know, that's not what God sounds like. Do you? Do you?

STU: I guess technically no.

GLENN: Might have been a big Pall Mall smoker in the day. You know what I mean?

Whoa, the '50s came around. I got kind of lost in that Camel cigarette thing.

Anyway, so there were bomb threats, apparently at Target. But there weren't bomb threats at Target. So everybody was freaking out. They -- this is what happens when you target LGBTQ people.

Except, it appears, it is from LGBTQ people.

But we found out, that they are not violent.

The extremist right is. But they didn't send it either.

It appears as though, this was Russian disinformation.


Yes! We've tracked it down. The Russians are trying to make us hate each other.

You think so? You think so? Now, the only problem is, I have absolutely no trust in the FBI. FBI came out, we tracked you town. It was the Russians.

Was it? Weren't you guys tracking the Russians with Donald Trump?

Yeah. But that was -- that was different. You really did do that with a prostitute at a hotel.

Oh, did he? So here's some good news. Target has lost about $10 billion. Stock keeps going down. People are leaving. Now, we just found out, that they are big with educational people, special interest groups.

Not necessarily. Not necessarily associated with the teacher's unions.

But they are with GLSEN. G-L-S-E-N, which is a bunch of other people.

That a lot of them are in the LGBTQI+. Don't know what the S is. But anyway, it's a great network.

And they have been working with the schools, to make sure that teachers keep all of the information about your children, transitioning, there in the school.

No. No, we're not going to tell any parents. The great thing is, if you didn't think Target was a problem before, I just want you to know, that they donated at least $2.1 million to GLSEN. So they could, you know, teach the districts and the students how to hide their transgenderism, and their transitions from their parents.

And I think that is, yeah!

Yeah. So if you just wanted a little extra, you know, understanding of why maybe you shouldn't be pushing what I believe are the greatest shopping carts in America.

Why you should not be pushing those shopping carts. Uh-huh.

How about that one? I mean, you know, unless you don't have a problem with Target helping people in school, keep information about your children from you.


Pride Month may be used to INVESTIGATE churches in America?

Beware of POLITICAL WARFARE used by the far-left during this year’s Pride Month, warns James Lindsay, Founder and President of New Discourses. In this clip, Lindsay outlines two, possible ways the LGBTQ movement — especially in June — may be used as a method to target Christians in America…possibly even resulting in government investigations of churches throughout the nation. It’s all about labeling conservatives as dangerous 'Christian nationalists,' he explains, and Pride Month may give the left the perfect opportunity to do so. He explains it all in this clip…


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GLENN: So James Lindsey is with us. And he's hacking everybody off online.

Because I'm not sure what he is trying to warn against.

Welcome to the program, James.

JAMES: Hey, Glenn. Always good to talk to you.

GLENN: Good to talk you to.

He's the author of, by the way, of the Marxification of Education and New Discourses, founder and president.

He says, political warfare is coming, during Pride Month.

And I fear your -- your right, and I also fear that you're right about the warning to Christians.

So James, where do you want to start?

JAMES: I think maybe we'll start kind of big picture. I think we will see what political warfare is, first of all. Is when I use, basically intelligence kind of tactics against a population, to get them to act and behave in certain ways.

That you can then take advantage of for political purposes, to drive an agenda. To get the DOJ to crack down on it, whatever.

So now we know what that is. I think we will teach him tact, through Pride. Using LGBTQ, as they call it, issues as the wedge.

One of those will be to get our corporations that skew as American brands.

Ford. Target. Bud Light. You know, Americana brands to take this up, full blast.

So the conservatives will turn around. And boycott, and Target these corporations, as we should.

And almost as we must.

So we cut off ourselves, at our own knees. And Marxists will like nothing better.

Secondly, they will attack religious icons. They will go after children. We have seen this with the sisters of perpetual indulgence, or whatever they call themselves in Los Angeles.

Going after very religious offensive behaviors. And the goal will be to -- they know that conservatives, and particularly a lot of conservative Christians are getting angry.

That they're if we go to desperate.

It's almost like they've woke up a dragon. And they will feed the dragon. And get them to do something stupid, that will then get turned around and used against them.

Whether it's investigate churches. Shut down churches. Come down on conservative Christianity. Just from a political perspective.

So that they're the domestic terrorist hotbeds of the country.

And then come around, in a few months. And offer some new fake state approved Christian churches. That will fill in, the space that gets left by bulldozing what exists now.

GLENN: So you really think it will go -- I mean, I don't know why I am surprised at this.

But, I mean, that is a huge statement to make. That they will shut down our churches?

THOMAS: Well, you know, the federal government can only do so much with that.

But they can start doing investigations.

They can start digging in. I wouldn't be surprised at all, if there's a large Christian reaction that's not strategic, that's not thoughtful. I'm asking nobody, by the way, to sit on their hands and knees. That this is a common conception. What I'm saying.

But if it's not strategic, if we're not thinking intelligently about how we approach this, there are already large dossiers, written for the federal government. Saying that the cause of January 6th. Which, of course, is their favorite thing to go to.

Was, in fact, not even MAGA or Trump. Believe it -- how crazy is it, that they say it's something other than Trump?

It's Christian nationalism. Which is a rising domestic terror threat.

So if they can use some excuse to label churches, as breeding grounds for domestic terrorism. You can bet the Department of Homeland Security.

The Department of Justice. And maybe the IRS will be cracking down and spying on churches.

You can bet they'll try to push something like a second Patriot Act, that allows them to spy on churches. And do whatever else they have to do. In order to try to limit that alleged threat of domestic terrorism.

This is well-linked already in the federal government. This isn't just some media narrative. Although, that's happening too. To give it legs in the population.

This is something that they will get the public to demand. That they will say, white supremacy, tied to Christian nationalism. White Christian nationalism is the biggest threat. It's a very serious concern.

And they will use the unbelievable provocations, that they will put forth in the next month or two, for pride. To trigger Christians, into giving them the reaction they need. To justify the political moves. Against both Christians and conservatives. But also all Americans.

GLENN: So in one survey, conducted between 2007 and 2017.

52 percent, is this the claim, support some form of Christian nationalism.

Later study, Brookings Institute. Public religion research institute.

Says, only 29 percent of Americans fall somewhere around the Christian nationalist spectrum. Over half Republicans reportedly show some degree of support.

With 21 percent counting as adherents. And 33 percent as sympathizers. What exactly is a Christian nationalist.

JAMES: You know, Glenn, I wish I could tell you.

It's a very wide spectrum of beliefs. Things that are innocuous. We will have a broad cultural revival. And bring Christian values back to the public square. Meaning the level of individuals coming back to God. Coming back to the church.

Getting their Christian principles right. And living them, all the way to the other side. Where we're talking about. In say, the book that is titled, the case for Christian nationalism by Steven Wolf.

A Christian prince in the land, as the highest official, not just in the United States. But in the world.

And so this Christian prince is, of course, a Protestant recreation of the pope. And this person, is supposed to become the ultimate civil magistrate, right out of kind of old philosophy. I know we talk old philosophy sometimes, Glenn. Right out of Hegel's philosophy. Where we will have this new kind of brilliant magistrate leader. Who will have the correct ideals and principles.

And lead the country. So it's a huge spectrum of that. Anything in between.

And they're playing in a sense, both sides against the middle.

By putting out a wide spectrum of different views. So if one is unpalatable, and one too soft. They can point to the others. And bounce around the definitions.

And get people, especially Christians, to dip into their values. And say, well, you know what, I'm a Christian, and I believe in this country. So I actually align with something in this.

And I'll use the label. Which like I said, I believe is actually a gigantic federal government trap, being set for Christians, to step right into and lose their liberties.

GLENN: So let me just give you some headlines.

Politico. Most Republicans support declaring the United States, a Christian nation.

This is the Washington Post. Americans are growing more accepting of Christian nationalism.

NPR. More than half of Republicans, support Christian nationalism.

Well, I will tell you, that they will put me, and my collection of historic items, into Christian nationalism.

Because I do believe the Founding Fathers, founded this.

With -- through their help. Or through their belief. And the help of God.

And we are a Judeo Christian nation.

That's where we get most of our laws. And the ideas. They came from the pulpit.

That doesn't mean we hate other religions. Or anything else.

It just means, that's the truth of our -- of our founding.

So that makes me a Christian nationalist, I'm sure. According to them.


JAMES: Absolutely, Glenn. Absolutely. You know how the left works.

They work through insinuation, association, and fallacious claims.

So that they can take the softest possible expression. Something like what you just gave, that might convince somebody as Christian nationals.

And then tie it to the most extreme behaviors. This is exactly what the dossier, that was presented to the House, unselected.

As we might put President Trump on it. House Unselect Committee about January 6th.

It's a 56-page document. Written by a layer, named Andrew Seidel.

And he goes as far on the one hand, as giving very extreme examples.

And tying it to neoconfederacy, and people carrying Confederate flags to the Capitol. And on the other hand, he says, here's proof of Christian Nationals. It will be widespread. And it might be as something as innocuous as quoting someone giving a prayer.

That something like Lord God, bless this nation. In Jesus' name we pray.

Now all of a sudden, because you're saying, bless this nation. That counts.

So your collection, certainly.

Your views, certainly, are going to get roped into this.

In fact, what you'll find, is most of the conservative side of the aisle, will get roped into this.

I, according to my Wikipedia, I'm not even a Christian. I work with a Christian nationalist.

So I'm Christian nationalist adjacent.

But it turns out that the guy that I work with. His name is Michael Fallon. You know him.

Is not even a Christian nationalist. And is on the front line fighting against this movement and this trap with me. So the facts, will not matter to the left, is what I'm saying. They will rope people in. They'll use insinuation. Association. To rope people in. And to discredit them.

To make them the new deplorables. The new, whatever it can't be listened to. And to justify a large public scare campaign.

To get Democrats. To pressure democratic politicians to push a second Patriot Act. Investigate churches. To demand a mandate to figure out where this domestic extremism is allegedly coming from outside our churches.

GLENN: So here is something from the Joint Committee report on January 6th. That white Christian nationalists were more likely to eschew safety measures and prioritize the economy and liberty, over the vulnerable.

They're also more likely to hold anti-vaccine attitudes, oppose any federal gun control restrictions. Due to the belief, that the Second Amendment, was divinely inspired.

They're more likely to fear immigrants. And endorse anti-immigrant policies, and they oppose same-sex marriage. And transgender rights.

Holy cow.

JAMES: I'm telling you, Glenn. This is what Mao Zedong did in China. Not specifically with Christians. Although, that's relevant too.

What he did very successfully, he wrapped up this campaign, he called unity criticism. Unity. He said, we'll have unity on a new basis in China.

And he criticized viciously. Unfairly. Just like you just read. Anybody who might be able to be painted. Not even somebody who is.

But somebody who can be painted as an impediment as a new unity under it.

Then everybody that is still allowed to have a voice, a vote, et cetera, when everybody agrees. Everybody who counts, agrees. Now they'll have unity under a new basis. We see this with a push for belonging.

You see this with the pushes for inclusivity. You see this right here, with what you just said. Every bad thing that you can think of, gets tied to this label of Christian nationalism. And sadly, if they turn to some of these harder core guys, that are both talking online. And they're writing books. And they're -- it's ample evidence of people saying that they want to overturn the Constitution. They want to undo the 14th Amendment. They don't believe in the equal-protection clause. They want to get rid of the 19th amendment. They want to get rid of free speech entirely, and forced belief. They have ample evidence. This is Steven Wolf who wrote this book. Has a podcast out there, that I have seen multiple times. Because people send it to me frequently. Where he says, atheism will be stamped out in America.

What about Judaism? What about Mormonism? What about Buddhism?

GLENN: Correct. See, that is not American.

That's the deal. Christian nationalism. If that describes him, then he's neither Christian, nor American.

Because both of those go against Christianity, and the American justice for all. Freedom for all. All men are created equal.

You can follow the -- the dictate of your conscience.

Those things, they're in direct opposition to what -- what most people, who would be labeled a Christian nationalist would agree with.

I don't agree with anything that he just said.

JAMES: Right. And like I just said, is this probably a minority of the people that are a part of the movement. But the left doesn't need most people to believe the crazy stuff.

They need one person. That's it.

They have plenty now.

And it's not even, by the way, this isn't American. If I might be so bold. It's not even Christian.

The idea, if I understand Christianity correctly.

Is that Jesus came. Jesus offered his message. It's about, you come to me, if you choose, on your own volition.

This isn't about go out, force people to convert, or stamp out this or that belief, or whatever else.

And what's happening is, people are justifiably, and rightly frustrated.

They are demoralized. They are afraid for their country, and they are starting to get desperate.

They are saying, it's too late. The Constitution is already dead. The law is already captured. We don't have any other options.

And I'm not --

GLENN: You're not a Christian. Because everything, but God. Everything, but God.

Have faith. Raising someone from the dead, a little more difficult, than bringing America back to its sane place.

Not even its world standing.

Just where sanity and reason are once again followed.

That's not a big magic trick for God to do.

Raising dead. That's kind of a big thing.

What do you say, we stop saying, we're out of time. There's no hope. And start aligning yourself with the actual principles of Christ and Christianity.

JAMES: You know, I ask these fellows all the time. These Christian guys. I say why do you doubt God's timing? If you have faith, why do you doubt God's timing? The American people are waking up to this. They're waking up to this now. People have spoken about it for 30 years.

Some longer.

There are books from the early 1980s, talking about this, this march through our institutions. And people couldn't hear it or see it. But now people are waking up fast.

They're understanding the ESG is kind of at the heart of something that is going on. They understand that social, emotional learning is the heart of the brainwashing in our schools.

We're learning the targets. We're learning what's going on. We're learning it very quickly.

And we are actually, as you mentioned with the boycotts. We are willing to stand up and take a stand. Maybe we should trust in the timing of this. Because it's meant to be this way. Maybe that's the case.