RADIOApril 14, 2023

'A 21-year-old kid CAN'T do this': Only TWO WAYS pentagon leaker could have gotten documents?

The FBI has found the 21-year-old Air National Guardsman who allegedly leaked classified documents from the Pentagon. But should he have even been able to access these documents? Glenn's head researcher and former DoD intelligence analyst Jason Buttrill joins him to explain just how odd this situation is, how this kid could have accessed these top secret documents off the JWICS system, and whether he would have needed help: "A 21-year-old kid CAN'T do this."

Transcript

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GLENN: Jason joins us. Jason is the head of research for the broadcasts, that I do. And also, the -- the guy who watches over, you know, global problems that have anything to do with the military.

STU: And the guy who has the most illegal search history in the entire company.

GLENN: In the entire company.

STU: And that includes Jeffy.

GLENN: Yeah. You know, it's really scary, when you say, when you research something, and you about it by his office, sitting there, darkroom. You're like it's okay. (?) I think I'm finding some really good stuff. That's probably not the right words. Good stuff on the dark web. Anyway, Jason is here, because yesterday the FBI arrests the National Guardsmen linked to the Pentagon classified documents link. Now, I saw the pictures from the sky. Can we -- let's see if they match what I saw.

Because it didn't look like the FBI. That looked a lot like Army people.

STU: Oh, yeah. The vehicles certainly.

GLENN: The vehicles are. Now, when they were walking out, they had like four rifles.

They were all in the camo. Is that how our FBI dresses now?

Do we just -- are all norms gone? Now, I have to hand it to our FBI.

Because this is -- this could have been anybody. Anybody in the world!

They found him. They found him this quickly. Congratulations. Now, they still didn't know who leaked the Dobbs decision. And there's only 12 suspects there. But I'm sure they're working on it. I'm sure they're working on it. Now, I brought Jason in, because, Jason, you were in -- and I hate to say it, military intelligence. And you were in military intelligence. So you know this stuff.

JASON: Yeah.

GLENN: So tell us what he was accused of doing, according to the New York Times.

JASON: So there was that badge of classified documents that ended up on a Discord servers, which gamers use to talk to each other while they play games.

But it was on this Discord server, and somehow it went from the Discord server to eventually getting leaked out on to Telegram. Places like that.

GLENN: My first thought, when I saw this break yesterday, he's 21 years old, he's a National Guardsman. And he has access to these kinds of top secret documents. How is that possible?

JASON: So these kinds is very important to this story. When you look at the classified documents. And, yes, I have a copy of the classified documents. I mean, I don't have a copy of the classified documents. We didn't do! Somewhere Merrick Garland is laughing right now. Finally!

JASON: Yeah. Go, go. On these top secret documents, (?) their special access programs. Sensitive compartmentalized information. So what that means, there's top secret. And above that, if you get cleared, there's (?) you are read into certain things.

Just because you have a top secret clearance, blinds.com to be (?) in there somewhere.

You can't search for that stuff.

GLENN: Wait a minute. So he had access to the computer link?

JASON: Yeah. It's come out on the New York Times. (?) last night, the New York Times said, that he pulled this information off of something called Jay wicks. That stands for joint worldwide intelligence (?) communication system.

GLENN: Okay.

JASON: So basically what that is, that is an internet service provider. It's like, if you have internet (?)

GLENN: So it's -- it's a secure line.

JASON: Exactly.

GLENN: It's not a machine or anything. You plug your computer into a secure line.

JASON: Exactly. You can call on it. You can send email on it. Same as he pulled it off Jay wicks. It's like, Glenn, if you have (?) Verizon (?) can I have a little more context there. Was he surfing for it on the indecenter pap so a Jay wicks is just a system.

GLENN: So (?) candy assassination. (?) and it pops up the information. Classified details in Ukraine.

JASON: No. No, oops glycolytic some context. (?)

GLENN: Oh, they're already here.

JASON: Let's look out there.

STU: They park out front. They're just kind of outside.

JASON: I have a fast vehicle.

GLENN: I'm auto record saying this. I have nothing to do with this. (?) no.

Jason has worked for me for years. And has never, ever -- not that you have a bunch of stuff. But you have never divulged any kind of classified information, in any aspect of anybody's life.

JASON: And also the system is designed, so that I really can't. The system is designed, so that a 20-year-old enlisted kid can't get his hands on everything and anything.

It's designed that way. But what you were describing, going to (?) Intel link is basically, that's the internet, right?

Or that's basically the computers that are all linked together. I guess it's more better to describe it as an Intranet. There's a place to click on. (?)

GLENN: Is there a Wikipedia?

JASON: There is. There is a Wikipedia. It's called intel pedia. That's for top secret nerds to build (?) wait. So will this National Guardsman. He is with the (?) he is 21 years old.

Would we have access to intel pedia?

JASON: Yes. He would be able to access intel pedia. I had a top secret (?) I would be able to go into the skiff. The facility where this stuff is at.

And I could get on to one of these terminals. That's hooked up to Jay wicks. And I could go into Intel pedia,if I want to.

The information is broad there. It's a bunch of nerds (?)

GLENN: It's not these documents.

JASON: No, no, no. It's not. Here are the locations of every (?) that would be SEI or sap.

Meaning, you have to be read into that. You have to have a special login to send that to and from terminals on the Jay wicks. Oops I don't know. The Capitol Police were disgorge just happened to walk out on the room, and it was there on the screen. Any way to get and recently

Could he print it or take a picture of it?

JASON: He could take a picture of it on the computer. Bought that's not what happened. He printed it (?)

GLENN: You couldn't print it off in the skiff.

JASON: You could. But there would be a record that somebody printed that off in the skiff.

STU: One of the many ways they were able to identify this guy supposedly, was that he printed them off, brought them home, put them on the counter. And you could see, it was the same (?) the counter in his kitchen.

GLENN: Right. And there was a reflection of the room and things like that. Again, can't find the secretary of one of the 12 justices that leaked that.

STU: No. It's impossible. Oops found out athat he had the reflection of his furniture in his room.

JASON: See, this is the way the system worked back when I was in. I heard they were trying to modernize the Jay wicks system. (?)

GLENN: Oh, okay. (?) just leave it open.

JASON: Right. Well, I was thinking, from what they were saying, they were trying to make it more restrictive from when I was in. It was going to be cloud-based. (?) what really irritated me about the New York Times piece last night, is they didn't ask any of these questions. They were given an acronym.

And even the acronym meant, just pull off Jay wicks.

GLENN: Okay.

Hang on. Why would the New York Times feel the need to ask the government any questions?

JASON: Especially when they were probably given it.

GLENN: We will ask the questions here.

They seemed to have trusted their government sources for everything. And been burned every time, as we find out it's false. Why would -- these questions.

JASON: Yeah. It was almost (?) they were given a piece of paper, and print this. That's the way it felt to me. If I'm at the New York Times, and actually curious about getting to the bottom of this. (?) okay. He got it off Jay wicks.

Where was it at in Jay wicks? Was it in an email, and-something (?) was he reading someone's email?

Did someone send him an ice mail, and his information was on at a?

GLENN: Definitely not an (?) FBI agent. Whatever I say, not an FBI agent.

Justice Department has nothing to do with it.

JASON: I will say (?) I'll just put that out there.

STU: So does the DOJ.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

JASON: I'm just wondering. (?)

GLENN: And have you come back. Have you figured out any way that this could be done by this kid.

What are the most likely scenarios?

Because if you're telling us, you can't just log in. And he wouldn't have the ability to just log in, and get this kind of information.

What would he have to have? Or how is the most likely way it would have happened?

Back with Jason here in 60 seconds.

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Now, they're saying, this guy is stationed at the National Guard base, as a cyber transport systems journeyman. What the hell is that?

JASON: I have no idea. That's Air Force.

GLENN: He held the highest level security clearance, granted by the government, to review top secret information.

JASON: SEI. Top secret as he EI.

GLENN: So he would have (?)

JASON: He would be able to look at that.

GLENN: But he wouldn't be able to search for it or look for it.

It would have to have been -- he would have to know where it was. Because I'm guessing. I'm trying to understand this -- in people terms. But I don't know anybody who has actually been on the dark web, except you.

So when you own the dark web (?) you have to know what you're looking for, right?

JASON: People have built web pages on the dark web (?)

GLENN: And is there a list of links on this thing?

JASON: Kind of like the Intranet. So he could go on that. Look on Intel pedia,if he wanted to. But (?) there's no search function for that. So you couldn't just be like, hydrogens going to go on this site on (?) Jay and moaning me before, what's the most likely scenario? Either someone else's email is up. I'm just theorize oops (?) which would be highly unlikely, right?

JASON: Unless they're completely incompetent, which is a possibility. If so, I want to know about that, someone should ask that. Or someone could have sent him an ICE email that he shouldn't have received. That could be possible as well.

GLENN: Would there be a record of that?

JASON: It should be. There will be a record of that.

GLENN: So when they arrest him, and they're printing him as the guy, is there any way for that to be true, that he is the only one involved in this? As far as getting the information.

JASON: It's possible he was the only one involved in wanting to steal this information. So like I said, if somebody else's mistake allowed him to do this. But that needs to be looked into.

So that's one option. The other option was someone was feeding him information. I want to know who that person is as well. That is the only two scenarios that I can think of, that makes sense.

The way classified information makes sense. It's set up to where a 21-year-old kid can't do it.

There has to be somewhere, where there are mistakes, where protocols can't be followed.

We have to know about that.

GLENN: So here's the thing that bothered me from the get-go. When we know who this guy is. Yesterday, when we said, we know who that guy is, but we won't tell you who it is.

And the opening paragraph of the story was, he's a guy who loves God and guns. And he's with a bunch of guys on the internet with God and guns.

And I thought, wow. Wow. That's an interesting -- what a great, sweet deal. And that story was followed by Biden saying, this is why we need to have more monitoring of all websites.

JASON: Off a. That's coming.

GLENN: Right (?) so, I mean, I would have never said five years ago, eight years ago, would have never said, this smells like a setup. This smells like -- only because of everything else that's going on.

For instance, we got the guy who discovered the pipe bomb. Okay?

The first guy that discovered the January into just. Cop. Okay? He's been arrested. He's going to jail.

Why? Because he told someone, hey, man. You should remove that from Facebook.

Well, I know people who know people who are at January 6th. And they were like, what are you doing? Don't post that. Take that Facebook. Not that they're doing anything.

But when is it a crime when you say, Newsweek?

We haven't found the guy who left the bomb. But the guy who discovered -- the cop who discovered the bomb. And then later told somebody else, hey, you should take that off of Facebook.

He's arrested and going to jail.

Now, as a movie writer, I would say, that that's a great setup for, he knows something. Shut him up.

Am I wrong? As a movie writer.

Am I wrong on that.

JASON: No, nn, no. But look how (?) everyone mobilized to figure this out, in what, a matter of days?

GLENN: Days. Days.

JASON: And it was the media that actually broke it. The media figured it out before the fed did, that's what it felt like.

GLENN: And that's weird. Because that would be internal sources. And we know what internal sources have fed us through the media before. Nothing, but lies.

Energy Secretary reveals Trump's plan to LOWER your electricity bill

President Trump's Energy Secretary, Chris Wright, joins Glenn Beck to discuss Trump's plan to lower your electricity bill. While he says it can't happen every night, he assures Glenn's listeners that Trump is asking for updates on this "every single day." Plus, he reveals how the administration plans to cut red tape, use nuclear energy, and stop the immature closure of coal plants to boost American energy.

Transcript

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GLENN: Okay. We have Chris -- Chris Wright on. US Energy Secretary. We are concerned about our energy, and thank God, Donald Trump. Can you imagine how bad this would be, if Joe Biden's policies would have continued? Thank God we're doing a lot of really good things. But I wanted to get a sense from Chris, on where we are, and what he thinks of what's happening in Maryland, and the warning, that Goldman is giving this week?

Chris, welcome to the program.

CHRIS: Thanks for having me on, Glenn. Yeah. You hit the hot topic, right away.

GLENN: Okay. So I would assume that you agree with what Goldman said?

CHRIS: Oh. Absolutely. In fact, we've released a report from the department, just a few weeks ago. And if you had continued the Biden policies, which are to permit and subsidize energy sources that might be there. Might not. They generally aren't there at peak demand.

If we had continued those policies, they would have shut down another hundred gigawatts of firm production capacity, that's there when you need it. And they have permits to improve and planned to add -- add 22 gigawatts of that. Check out 100, add 22.

So a net loss of 78 gigawatts, to an electricity grid that's already tight, that already delivers blackouts and peak demand. They were on a trajectory to increase blackouts by 100 fold, by the end of the first Paris term, if she had won that election.

It is just -- we were driving over a cliff, and they were hitting the accelerator to go faster. It's ridiculous.

GLENN: What really bothered me was the policy that when they shut these plants down, we would actually pay the power companies, to shut these down, if they dismantled the coal power plants. They actually could get subsidy. If they made sure, there was no going back into that.

Which I found terrifying, and horribly irresponsible.

CHRIS: Glenn, it's just crazy. An environmentalist melted down a few weeks ago, when I used my authority at the Department of Energy, to stop the closure of a one and a half gigawatt coal plant in southwestern Michigan.

Oh, you're going to post tax -- costs on the -- we don't know that coal plant. It's slated to close.

Two days later, there was a blackout in my zone, the Midwestern independent system operator. Two days later, that plant was running at full capacity. It would have been massively worse. Crisis would have been massively higher.

You just talked about Baltimore. We also stopped the closure of a very old power plant in Baltimore, but a critical power plant that keeps the lights on at peak demand, that's also running at full capacity as we speak today and has for much of the last few weeks.

Oh, no. We don't need it. We're going to close it. It -- it's just when politics gets in the middle of energy, it truly impacts people's lives.

At least the blackouts. Rising costs. You know, we had 30 percent rise in power prices during just four years of President Joe Biden.

And now we're going to launch the AI race against China? And we are going to have our lights going off, without data centers, without new industry in our country?

Just thank God, the American people, overwhelmingly elected President Trump. We brought common sense back. We're swimming seven days a week, to try to fix the train wreck they left us. So it's exciting. It's more stressful than I would like. But I can assure you, we're headed in the right direction now.

GLENN: So what really bothers me, is how dangerous nuclear power is, and how we can't use that.

Even though, that solves the global warming thing. We've never been able to have that. We have to reduce our power usage. You know, go back to the good old days in, I don't know, medieval times. And -- but now that AI is here. Now that the big tech companies step up and say, no, no, no. We -- we have to have power for AI. Now all of those rules are out the window.

Which -- which bothers me so much, because it is -- it's as if the left and the power structures, don't really care about the average person. And them having power.

They care about these big corporations, and -- and AI being able to have compute power.

But not the average person. And it's -- it's -- it's disgusting.

It's really disgusting.

CHRIS: I -- I think that's right, Glenn.

It also shows that they never really cared about incremental changes in greenhouse gas emissions. The climate change thing is mostly a classroom for power. We're going to decide the way the world works. And make rules for you.

Because you stupid rubes out there in America, you can't make your own decisions.

We must make them for you. But yet, they were never about a rational approach to reduce greenhouse gases.

They don't even know that much about greenhouse gas emissions.

You said, they hated nuclear then. Now they see we're on a train wreck. They don't want to admit their climate alarmism was wrong. And wildly exaggerated.

Now, nuclear power is okay.

Because we need. We need these data centers, these big companies need power. It's not just -- it's not just those crazy routes in Middle America, like you and I.

GLENN: So, you know, in your report, you said, you know, we will increase blackouts by 100 times in the next five years, if we don't keep more base load power online.

How rapidly are we going to see these nuclear power plants, et cetera, et cetera, being built?

And is it only to serve those server farms, or are we going to redo the American power grid, itself?

CHRIS: It will be across the grid. So it is an exciting development, Glenn.

But it's the government. It's this overweening, fear-mongering government that actually smothered and killed nuclear industry, for most of the last four decades. So since it's been my mothered for so long, it will take time to get that ball really moving. We will have an already closed nuclear power plant, back open in Michigan. Later this year, January. Hopefully, at the latest.

You know, there's some developments that will happen in the next few months.

But most of it, will take a few years.

Really, what's going to feed the data centers that are going to be built, and the reindustrialization of our country.

And keep the lights on, and our air-conditioning on in the summertime.

Most of that is going to come from stopping the closure of the coal plant.

GLENN: Right.

CHRIS: That the Biden administration and Obama administration wanted to shrink our ability to generate electricity.

And it's going to come from the expansion and rapid construction of new natural gas burning power plants. Natural gas is, by far, the biggest source of electricity.

It's by far the lowest cost -- source of new electricity. So we are doing everything we can, to permit, allow the construction of natural gas plants as fast as possible, and removing these ridiculous requirements.

That, well, if you spend a billion dollars to build a new power plant, within six or seven or eight years, you're going to have to capture all the carbon dioxide emissions, and eject them underground. No matter how much it costs. No matter how much it burdens our power sector.

The direction they were in, just didn't care about American people, or American business.

GLENN: How long before we see these things? I mean, you know, China is building at the speed of at least one coal power plant, a week. They are building nuclear power plants. They are on an energy surge right now.

They know what's coming.

How -- how -- when should we see this actually starting to happen? And how long before power prices come down?

CHRIS: Oh, man. That is -- that is the big question. President Trump asked me that, every single day. Every single day. Let's get oil prices down. Let's get gas prices down. Let's get electricity prices down. And it takes a while to build infrastructure.

Fortunately, quickly, we can stop the closure of coal plants and still have lots of lifetime left. We've already done that.

That's why we don't have much worse blackouts, already today. We do have new gas plants coming on this year, a lot more coming on next year. We will have nuclear plants on, later this term. We will have a whole bunch of them under construction. But yet, to turn the giant, you know, aircraft carrier that is the electricity grid, that's going to take a few years. But hopefully, we can watch the huge rise in prices.

We can build the capacity so that the United States can keep our lead on artificial intelligence over China.

We get behind China, and they control AI, our national security is at risk.

GLENN: Yeah. I know.

CHRIS: The whole administration is seven days a week, working on this effort.

I see dramatically fewer blackouts this summer, than you would have, had the election gone the other way.

And I think we will be in a little better situation next summer. And somewhere in between there, this winter. We're rapidly swimming the right way.

I wish, I could say power prices are going down 20 percent next year. But it's simply not possible to do that, in 12 months. But I will tell you, President Trump is seven days a week doing everything he can, towards that goal.

GLENN: What regions are the worst in the country?

As far as stability and prices?

CHRIS: The Midwest.

You know, the -- the -- where that Michigan coal plant was kept open.

Where that nuclear power plant will reopen later that year. The Midwest Independent System Operator, that's our tightest region.

The southeast and PJM, where Washington, DC, is in the mid-Atlantic states.

They're rapidly getting tighter as well. Everything in the inner connection cue that was new to come on, is a wind or solar project.

But when it's dark out, and when it's really hot, and you're in a high-pressure system.

And the wind doesn't blow. Those things don't help to meet demand. They just provide electricity -- well, you don't know when. But at some points in time, that's not very helpful for an electricity grid. But we're going to stop the closure of the firm capacity.

And we are doing everything we can. We are permitting and approving plants, every week. New construction, new plants, that will be built. And that be here to provide relief to Americans in the next 12 to 24 months.

GLENN: And the most stable region?

CHRIS: The -- the most stable region is actually Texas. Which is by far the biggest electricity grid. They produce more than twice as much electricity as California. And just -- just a little bit less nonsense in Texas.

They still went crazy on the wind stuff. They still have more expensive, and less stable grid than they had ten years ago.

GLENN: Yeah. They do.

CHRIS: But they also have the mindset and the regulatory regime to fix their problem. Texas is rapidly growing its firm capacity, and they will stay out of this crisis, probably a little faster than the more Biden-influenced rest of the country.

GLENN: Hmm. I can't thank you enough for everything you guys are doing. I'm -- I'm amazed at -- at how rapidly you guys have turned things around.

I'm just -- I'm thrilled at the work, you all are doing.

And, Chris, you really are leading us in energy.

And I really appreciate that. Thank you.

CHRIS: Appreciate you, Glenn. Appreciate all your viewers. We're doing everything we can.

We think about the American people. That's the only agenda we have.

GLENN: Thank you so much, Chris.

That's our US Energy Secretary, Chris Wright.

The most COMPLETE look at the Deep State we've ever seen

Thanks to release after release of government documents by the Trump administration, we now have the most complete look at the Deep State - how it works, who's involved, and who's funding it - that we've ever had. Most recently, Just The News has released proof that former United States Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates told the FBI to shut down investigations into the Clinton Foundation. Glenn's head researcher, Jason Buttrill, joins to recap these latest revelations.

Watch Glenn Beck's full breakdown of the Deep State network HERE

Secret Docs Reveal the ENTIRE Deep State Network | Glenn TV | Ep 451

The recent declassifications from Tulsi Gabbard’s ODNI and the Durham annex give us a rare glimpse into something much bigger and deeper than the Russiagate hoax against President Trump. Glenn Beck heads to the chalkboard to connect the dots and map out how the entire deep state operation works. We reveal who the players are, where the funding comes from, and how they exert their influence. From international color revolutions to the Ukraine impeachment and the Russiagate hoax, everything is finally starting to make sense. John Solomon, CEO and editor in chief of Just the News, gives Glenn a sneak peek into a bombshell investigation that exposes how the deep state provided cover for Clinton Foundation corruption.