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White House’s Ukraine/NATO Promise Risks WORLD WAR with Russia

Biden’s Secretary of State Antony Blinken has promised that Ukraine WILL join NATO, despite that literally being one of the reasons Russia gave for going to war. Is the Biden administration purposefully drawing us closer to World War III? Glenn and Stu discuss what this might mean for the future. Plus, they also review Blinken’s infuriating warning that Israel is close to becoming “indistinguishable” from Hamas.

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GLENN: Let's talk about World War III, shall we?

STU: Oh, uh-huh. Uh-huh. Stu, tell me what you think of this. Cut one. Cut one.

STU: It's a little slow.

GLENN: It is -- I thought it would be a little more exciting.

STU: Yeah. It's a little slow.

GLENN: Here it is.

VOICE: Ukraine will become a member of NATO. Our purpose of the summit is to help build a bridge to that membership.

And to create a clear pathway, for -- for Ukraine moving forward.

GLENN: Oh!

STU: Oh.

GLENN: Okay. All righty then. That's great.

Now, Stu, can you help me out? What was it, that Russia said, that the reason they were going to war, was because of?

STU: Ukraine potentially getting into NATO.

GLENN: Yeah. And so the one thing they didn't want us to do was?

STU: To push for Ukraine to be in NATO.

GLENN: And so the -- the goal of this big global conference, in Europe, yesterday, was...

STU: To put Ukraine in NATO.

GLENN: Okay. This sounds bad.

STU: Yeah. Now, look, Russia shouldn't be able to tell the rest of the world, who gets in NATO, and who doesn't.

But in this moment, okay?

In the current moment that we're in. Potentially, an answer somewhat like, you know, we're in the middle of a war, right now. I don't know if anyone has noticed this.

Perhaps, we don't want to inflame tensions. We'll discuss this a little bit more. Of course, our policy has not changed. Right? Something like that. We're not necessarily -- the policy has been they want Ukraine -- and the president has not changed that policy. So Blinken cannot come out and say, that's not the policy anymore.

But he can probably be a little more judicious with the way he talks about this in the middle of hundreds of thousands of people dying on the battlefield.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Good.

Good safety tip.

GLENN: Now, you're not the Secretary of State.

STU: I'm not. I think I might be qualified for it though. I kind of thought I was way too much of an idiot to get that job, but I don't think I have the main qualification.

GLENN: Yeah. I don't think you are. I don't think you are.

Now, at the same table, at the same time, the president of France, Macron has been saying lately, he's thinking about sending troops. Now, remember, another thing Russia has said is: You guys get involved, then you're involved. And I target you, as well. So Macron -- now, help me out. We may have slipped through another wormhole. Okay?

In the universe that I went to sleep in last night, France were wusses. France never -- I mean, they were not exactly -- they were lovers. They weren't fighters. And they were the joke, in the universe, I came from.

That like, France, you know, will -- will surrender to your suitcase.

So --

STU: Oh. Not a carry-on. It will have to be a full checkable bag.

GLENN: Well, not necessarily. This has no?

GLENN: Not necessarily. You may be from a different universe than I am.

Have we slipped through a wormhole?

How is it that France of all places is beating their chest going, you know what, we have a military, and we're going to use it. When did that happen?

Why are we listening to France? Why? Why?

Okay. So Macron also said, that he knows for sure Russia is going to target the Paris Olympics. They're going to do it. They're going to do it.

Hmm. Okay. So that's good.

Now, this has not been a problem at all for oil prices.

I mean, yes. It went up to $90 a barrel.

But that probably has something to do with Iran, getting ready to attack Israel. Can. Full-fledged war breaking out in the Middle East.

Which would drive the price of oil through the roof. Would anybody say, $200 a barrel?

By the way, America, the economy is built for 100, to $110 a barrel.

It doesn't survive long, the economy.

Anything over that, that's what we've already priced in.

If you remember, 2008, it was this sustained, what was it? Stu.

130. 130 or $40 a barrel?

STU: That seems high from my memory. I think it was a little lower than that.

With inflation, it would certainly be at least that high.

GLENN: With inflation.

STU: $110 in those days is like 190. 200. 3,000. Whatever it is today.

GLENN: I know.

So it was a sustained over 120.

And I had been warning about it. You can't -- with -- everything is so delicate right now.

You cannot handle, that it will break the back of the economy. Well, it did, and we have the 2008. We're talking now possibly $200 a barrel. $200 a barrel. And what is our government doing?

They're saying, they're not going to fill the strategic oil reserve.

Because it's now too expensive!

I don't know. I say we bite the bullet.

We don't seem to have a problem sending billions of dollars overseas. For -- I don't know. France needs animal crackers. Let's get them!

Let's get the animal crackers to France, quick!

They need $10 billion for animal crackers. We seem to find the money to do whatever we want. Why can't we find the money to fill the strategic oil reserve? From the people who brought you Afghanistan, believes an empty strategic oil reserve. Who would have seen it come?

STU: And, of course, no weapons. Because we gave them all to other countries. So you have that going on as well.

GLENN: Yeah. You have that going on. And, oh, by the way, because of corruption and everything else in our government, all of our F-35s. Well, only 25 percent of them are mission capable. But don't worry, it was just the most expensive airplane ever built.

STU: So it's more like an F9, or an F8. That's what we have left.

GLENN: Yeah. If the F8s didn't work. So also, we have Antony Blinken yesterday. I love Antony.

STU: I love the fact that his name is not Anthony.

GLENN: No, it's Antony.

Hey, everybody, it's me, Antony. I'm over here to tell you, you know what, Israel is becoming indistinguishable from Hamas. You know what I am saying?

Because they're doing too many bada bings and bada booms. And we have to support the bada booms.

STU: I might support him if he sounded like that. I might be okay with it.

GLENN: I at least would enjoy this trip to World War III, you know what I mean?

STU: It's much more fun.

GLENN: Hey, so we have a lot more World War III, you know what I'm saying?

Bada bing. Bada boom. And when I say bada boom, what I'm talking about is what happened in Washington, DC.

Boom! It's gone. Good thing I wasn't there. I was at a strip club, that night.
(laughter)
I was the one held back, you know, in case of a catastrophic event. And it went bada bing.

And she was going bada bing on stage. You know what I'm saying?

Okay. So yesterday, Antony Blinken said those words.

Israel is becoming indistinguishable from Hamas.

Okay! All right.

And Joe Biden, I mean, he laid it down on the terrorists.

Okay?

You know, those terrorists, the Houthis. Man, they are just -- they're so -- they're vicious, those Houthis.

So the Houthi terrorists have been, you know, launching rockets at our ships.

At the ships in China. Everything else.

They've been attacking the ships.

And Joe Biden came out yesterday, I mean, with a strong bada bing.

He came out!

And he said, the Houthi terrorists.

The Houthi terrorists decide that they won't launch any more missiles. I won't call them terrorists.

Okay?

So I'll -- I'll use that -- a nicer descriptor word, for Houthis. If they just stop bombing.

I won't call them terrorists.

STU: What's going on with his voice?

Did he have several red bulls?

GLENN: I mean, wait.

Wait. Wait.

So the Houthis are like, oh!

Well, America won't call us terrorists anymore.

That would be the opposite, that they -- they want you to call them terrorists. Because it makes the Houthis sound scary.

You really think, you know, I have really had -- I have a lot of sand in my ears. Because I grew up here in the desert.

But I -- I -- I can't even say it.

I have been so hurt by America calling us attests.

Just for doing terrorist activity!

What?

They're not Harvard students. They don't have their feelings hurt by mean words. Mean words.

Stop. It might just stop launching rockets at their ship. Oh, my gosh.

We're doomed!

STU: That was our fault. These things are always our fault. Like if we would just improve our behavior, they would stop shooting missiles at us. If we would just stop being so mean to the Gazans, they would stop raping all the Israelis. It's always our fault.

GLENN: Exactly right. Exactly right.

And you call them Gazans, and they're not. They're Palestinians.

STU: Sorry, Palestinians.

GLENN: How do they deal with you people? This has if we would just stop calling them the wrong name, they would stop the murder.

Every single time, it's always our fault.

It's our fault, that because Hamas, the people that were elected by the Palestinians, came across the, quote, unquote, border.

And murdered and raped a bunch of people.

It's our fault, that their citizens are not getting food and water now?

That's because of us?

It's not because of the 150 citizens. Or 150 countries across the world. Who supported Hamas?

GLENN: Can I tell you something, I would love to be a fly on the wall, at the national security committee. And listen to them.

In the bunker, in the bowels of the basement, of the White House.

As they're saying, Mr. President, things are getting a little crazy.

Let's just stop calling them terrorists. My gosh, Mr. President, that is genius!

I think that is the greatest strategic move our military could ever -- that is -- you are a history maker.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: It could go as well as our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

STU: Well, to be fair about Afghanistan for a second here. They did send in multiple officials with no evacuation plan. And within hours, after Kabul fell. So they decided to come up with a plan after the fall of Kabul. Which wasn't at all foreseeable in the days leading up to that. And, hey, what are you going to do, right?

GLENN: Hey, are we still in Afghanistan? No. Bada bing.

STU: That would be a better press conference, than the one that Blinken was giving.

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Salena Zito reveals WHY Trump said “Fight! Fight! Fight!”

“I have a new purpose,” then-candidate Donald Trump told reporter Salena Zito after surviving the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. Salena joins Glenn Beck to reveal what Trump told her about God, his purpose in life, and why he really said, “Fight! Fight! Fight!”, as she details in her new book, “Butler: The Untold Story of the Near Assassination of Donald Trump and the Fight for America's Heartland”.

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GLENN: Salena, congratulations on your book. It is so good.

Just started reading it. Or listening to it, last night.

And I wish you would have -- I wish you would have read it. But, you know, the lady you have reading it is really good.

I just enjoy the way you tell stories.

The writing of this is the best explanation on who Trump supporters are. That I think I've ever read, from anybody.

It's really good.

And the description of your experience there at the edge of the stage with Donald Trump is pretty remarkable as well. Welcome to the program.

SALENA: Thank you, Glenn. Thank you so much for having me.

You know, I was thinking about this, as I was ready to come on. You and I have been along for this ride forever. For what?

Since 2006? 2005?

Like 20 years, right?

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

SALENA: And I've been chronicling the American people for probably ten more years, before that. And it's really remarkable to me, as watching how this coalition has grown. Right?

And watching how people have the -- have become more aspirational.

And that's -- and that is what the conservative populist coalition is, right?

It is the aspirations of many, but the celebration of the individual.

And chronicling them, yeah. Has been -- has been, a great honor.

GLENN: You know, I was thinking about this yesterday, when -- when Elon Musk said he was starting another party.

And somebody asked me, well, isn't he doing what the Tea Party tried to do?

No. The Tea Party was not going to start a new party.

It was to -- you know, it was to coerce and convince the Republican Party to do the right thing. And it worked in many ways. It didn't accomplish what we hoped.

But it did accomplish a lot of things.

Donald Trump is a result of the Tea Party.

I truly believe that. And a lot of the people that were -- right?

Were with Donald Trump, are the people that were with the Tea Party.


SALENA: That's absolutely right.

So that was the inception.

So American politics has always had movements, that have been just outside of a party. Or within a party.

That galvanize and broaden the coalition. Right? They don't take away. Or walk away, and become another party.

If anything, if there is a third party out there, it's almost a Republican Party.

Because it has changed in so many viable and meaningful ways. And the Tea Party didn't go away. It strengthened and broadened the Republican Party. Because these weren't just Republicans that became part of this party.

It was independents. It was Democrats.

And just unhappy with the establishment Republicans. And unhappy with Democrats.

And that -- that movement is what we -- what I see today.

What I see every day. What I saw that day, in butler, when I showed I happen at that rally.

As I do, so many rallies, you know, throughout my career. And that one was riveting and changed everything.

GLENN: You made a great case in the opening chapter. You talk about how things were going for Donald Trump.

And how this moment really did change everything for Donald Trump.

Changed the trajectory, changed the mood.

I mean, Elon Musk was not on the Trump train, until this.

SALENA: Yeah.

GLENN: Moment. What do I -- what changed? How -- how did that work?

And -- and I contend, that we would have much more profound change, had the media actually done their job and reported this the way it really was. Pragmatism

SALENA: You know, and people will find this in the book. I'm laying on the ground with an agent on top of me.

I'm 4 feet away from the president.

And there's -- there's notices coming up on my phone. Saying, he was hit by broken glass.

And to this take, that remains part of this sibling culture, in American politics.

Because reporters were -- were so anxious to -- to right what they believed happened.

As opposed to what happened.

And it's been a continual frustration of mine, as a reporter, who is on the ground, all the time.

And I'll tell you, what changed in that moment.

And I say a nuance, and I believe nuance is dead in American journalism.

But it was a nuance and it was a powerful conversation, that I had with President Trump, the next day. He called me the next morning.

But it's a powerful conversation I had with him, just two weeks ago.

When he made this decision to say, fight, fight, fight.

People have put in their heads, why they think he said it. But he told me why he said that. And he said, Salena, in that moment, I was not Donald Trump the man. I was a former president. I was quite possibly going to be president again.

And I had an obligation to the country, and to the office that I have served in, to project strength. To project resolve.

To project that we will not be defeated.

And it's sort of like a symbolic eagle, that is always -- you know, that symbol that we look at, when we think about our country.

He said, that's why I said that. I didn't want the people behind me panicking. I didn't want the people watching, panicking.

I had to show strength. And it's that nuance -- that I think people really picked up on.

And galvanized people.

GLENN: So he told me, when he was laying down on the stage.

And you can hear him. Let me get up. Let me get up.

I've got to get up.

He told me, as I was laying on the stage. I asked him, what were you thinking? What was going through your head? Now, Salena, I don't know about you.

But with me. It would be like, how do I get off the stage? My first was survival.

He said, what was going on through his mind was, you're not pathetic. This is pathetic.

You're not afraid. Get up.

Get up.

And so is that what informed his fight, fight, fight, of that by the time that he's standing up, he's thinking, I'm a symbol? Or do you think he was thinking, I'm a symbol, this looks pathetic. It makes you look weak.

Stand up. How do you think that actually happened?

SALENA: He thinks, and we just talked about this weeks ago. He -- you know, and this is something that he's really thought about.

Right? You know, he's gone over and over and over. And also, purpose and God. Right? These are things that have lingered with him.

You know, he -- he thought, yes.

He did think, it was pathetic that he was on the ground. But he wasn't thinking about, I'm Donald Trump. It's pathetic.

He's thinking, my country is symbolically on the ground. I need to get up, and I need to show that my country is strong.

That our country is resolute.

And I need people to see that.

We can't go on looking like pathetic.

Right?

And I think that then goes to that image of Biden.

GLENN: You have been with so many presidents.

How many presidents do you think that you've personally been with, would have thought that and reacted that way?

SALENA: Probably only Reagan. Reagan would have. Reagan probably would have thought that.

And if you remember how he was out like standing outside.

You know, waving out the window. Right?

After he was shot.

GLENN: At the hospital, right.

SALENA: Had he not been knocked out, unconscious, you know, he probably would have done the same thing.

Because he was someone who deeply believed in American exceptionalism.

And American exceptionalism does not go lay on the ground.

GLENN: And the symbol.

Right. The symbol of the presidency.

SALENA: Yeah. Absolutely. And I think that affects him today.

GLENN: So let me go back to God.

Because you talked to him the next day. And your book Butler.

He calls you up.

I love the fact that your parents would be ashamed of you. On what you said to him.

The language you used. That you just have to read the book.

It's just a great part.

But he calls you the next morning. And wants to know if you're okay.

And you -- you then start talking to him, about God.

And I was -- I was thinking about this, as I was listening to it. You know, Lincoln said, I wasn't -- I wasn't a Christian.

Even though, he was.

I wasn't a Christian, when I was elected. I wasn't a Christian when my son died.

I became a Christian at Gettysburg.

Is -- is -- I mean, I believe Donald Trump always believes in God, et cetera, et cetera.

Do you think there was a real profound change at Butler with him?


SALENA: Absolutely. You know, he called me seven times that day. Seven times, the take after seven.

GLENN: Crazy.

SALENA: Talked about. And I think he was looking for someone that he knew, that was there. And to try to sort it out.

Right? And I let him do most of the talking. I didn't pressure him.

At all. I believed that he was having -- you know, he was struggling. And he needed to just talk. And I believed my purpose was to listen.

Right? I know other reporters would have handled it differently. And that's okay. That's not the kind of reporter that I am.

And I myself was having my own like, why didn't I die?

Right?

Because it went right over my head.

And -- and so I -- he had the conversation about God.

He's funny. I thought it was the biggest mosquito in the world that hit me.

But he had talked profoundly about purpose. You know, and God.

And how God was in that moment.

It --

GLENN: I love the way you -- in the book, I love the way you said that as he's kind of working it out in his own he head.

He was like, you know, I -- I -- I always knew that there was some sort of, you know -- that God was present.

He said, but now that this has happened.

I look back at all of the trials.

All of the tribulations. Literally, the trials.

All of the things that have happened. And he's like, I realized God was there the whole time.

SALENA: Yes. He does. And it's fascinating to have been that witness to history, to have those conversations with him. Because I'm telling you. And y'all know, I can talk. I didn't say much of anything.

I just -- I just listened. I felt that was my purpose, in that moment.

To give him that space, to work it out.

I'm someone that is, you know, believes in God.

I'm Catholic. I followed my faith.

And -- and so, I thought, well, this is why God put me here. Right?

And to -- to have that -- to hear him talk about purpose, to hear him say, Salena. Why did I put a chart down?

I'm like, sir. I don't know. I thought you were Ross Perot for a second.

He never has a chart. And he laughed. And then he said, why did I put that chart down?

By that term, I never turned my head away from people at the rally. That's true.

That relationship is very transactional. It's very -- they feed off of each other.

It's a very emotive moment when you attend a rally. Because he has a way of talking at a rally. That you believe that you are seeing.

And he said, and I never turn my head away.

I never turn my head away.

Why did I turn my head away?

I don't remember consciously thinking about turning my head away. And then he says to me, that was God, wasn't it?

Yes, sir. It was. It was God.

And he said, that's -- that's why I have a new purpose.

And so, Glenn. I think it's important, when you look at the breadth of what has happened, since he was sworn in.

You see that purpose, every day.

He doesn't let up.

He continues going.

And it brings back to the beginning of the book.

Where you find out, that there was another president that was shot at in Butler.

And that was George Washington. And how different the country would have been, had he died in that moment.

And now think about how different the country would be, had President Trump died in that moment. There would be --

GLENN: We're talking to -- we're talking to Salena Zito. About her new book called Butler. The assassination attempt on President Trump. And it is riveting.

And, you know, it is so good. I wish the press would read it. Because it really explains who we are, who Trump supporters are. Who are, you know, red staters. It is so good at that. She's the best at that.