RADIOOctober 11, 2023

Is THIS why Hamas choose WAR with Israel NOW?

How did Israeli intelligence miss an attack of this scale that Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah had allegedly been planning for the past year? What is coming next as Israel moves to possibly eliminate Hamas once and for all? And why did Israel's enemies choose NOW to attack? Glenn speaks with "The Terminal List" author and former Navy SEAL Jack Carr, who believes the timing is no coincidence, especially since the U.S. was pushing to influence Saudi Arabia to normalize relations with Israel. Plus, he and Glenn discuss how the United States should respond to the war.

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GLENN: All right. Jack Carr is the New York Times number one best-selling author. He is the author of the Terminal List series. He's also a former Navy SEAL, and he's been digging into Israel and Hamas, researching a book that is coming out next year.

And so I wanted to give him a chance to maybe share some of the things that he's learned to give us some perspective on why now, what -- what is it this mean?

If Iran is involved, does that mean Russia is involved. What are we headed for?

Welcome, Jack. How are you?

JACK: Well, it's great to be here. How raw, sir?

GLENN: I'm very good. I'm very good. I'm not even an enlisted man. So I'm certainly not served.

So, Jack, the -- Israel thought -- they were duped. They thought that Hamas had been tamed some. They cared about, you know, making money, and taking care of their people.

And Hamas did a really good job. In reading some of the articles that are out now. Did a really good job of duping them into this.

But Iran seems to be involved, even though our president says, there's no evidence of that.

Is there any evidence?

I mean, that makes total sense. And what does that mean?

JACK: Oh, yes. There's a lot to unpack.

But really, the Israel that Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran was dealing with last week, that's a different Israel than they're dealing with today most certainly. And we talked about being duped into something that was really a form of quasi-tolerance. Meaning Israel had tolerated a certain level of violence from Hamas, and they thought they could contain Hamas. They could live with that certain type of violence. They thought Hamas was tolerable, containable in Gaza. Not today.

That has all changed over the weekend. But also violence perpetrated on Israel, is something they have never seen before at this -- in these numbers, grandmothers, children. Women. Killed, raped, tortured. And a friend in Israel, who is with the operation forces there, has been texting me throughout the weekend and the last couple of days here. And he said, what we're seeing in these videos that are coming out, is not even the half of it. It's so much worse than what they're seeing. And they're in the thick of it now.

GLENN: So you look at some of these things, and you see that 900 Israelis died. Some of them were Americans.

They died. In horrific ways. It was an execution squad, really. And a kidnapping squad. As we -- we watch these things, we have to understand, the -- the population is only 9 million people. Over in Israel.

So that's like casualties of 30,000 people being tortured and raped and killed here in America. This is a huge impact.

However, the -- the way Israel usually deals with it. I think what people don't understand is that it has changed. Normally, they will go and then as soon as they respond, then the world starts to say, oh, you've got to stop the killing. This is horrible.

I don't think Israel is going to stop this time.

JACK: I don't think so either. And for the last decade, they've had the same kind of policies towards Gaza, that have been remaining in effect. It has been semi-working. But I think that they're going to look at those policies, realize those policies were a failure. All they did was to set up Hamas to do what they did over the weekend. And, of course, there's a few wild cards in there as well. Hezbollah in the north.

There's something between 100,000. 150,000 rockets pointed right at Israel. If that was acceptable last week. I don't just that was acceptable for much longer.

Because soon that becomes 200,000 rockets. 250,000 rockets. 300,000 rockets. Eventually buying time, where there are enough forces to really do some damage in Israel. So I think things have shifted across-the-board. And Hamas will look at this as their most successful operation in history.

But, I mean, what this has been, an opportunity, is a horrible word to use here. But that's really what it is for Israel, to hit Hamas so hard, it will take them texting to recover. And I don't think you can eliminate them totally as we saw in Iraq and Afghanistan over 20 years, of trying to get with different factions over there, in those two areas.

They can certainly set them back decades.

GLENN: So this is really -- if you look at some of the videos. They were beheading people. One with a garden hoe. This is the same kind of stuff we had from ISIS. What is the difference between those two, if there is any. And where is the connection to Iran?

JACK: Difference is where they came from. We talked about terroristic tactics. What that means, that's focusing on civilian targets. Not focusing on military targets. That's really what differentiates us from our enemy. And why it's so important for us to maintain that high ground. But the question is: Why now?

Hamas, and, really, by proxy Iran and possibly Russia, chose the time and the place of this engagement. So that's the question geopolitically. Why right now?

And the question is, because Israel is so divided, they have issues with their judicial and executive branch. And so they're divided probably like never before. US is very weak. The world, Hamas, Israel, or Iran, Russia, saw our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Saw the billions of dollars towards Ukraine. See the division here. See our leaders in the White House.

So there's a lot of things on the table with just those things.

And then we have the Israel, Saudi Arabia, just on the brink of essentially like a trilateral type of agreement, that deals with oil, increasing production, decreasing price, and a defense pact. I

You know, I think that's what it really is. I think that's what it is on the surface. I have no insider information here.

Is that it includes defense by nuclear weapons. So it would make -- possibly make Saudi Arabia the first nuclear power, in the Middle East, aside from Israel who doesn't talk about that sort of a thing.

Because on the other side, you have Iran, Russia, and China. And China is Iran's largest trading partner.

Two years ago, they signed a 25-year strategic partnership. So it is in China's interests, and Russia's interests to have Iran as the dominant nuclear power in the region.

So there's -- those are the two sides right there. US, Israel, Saudi Arabia. Iran, Russia, China. But I think what this does. What this Hamas incursion does really, is just delay possibly this agreement. I think it's going to happen. It just delays it. We'll see how long.

GLENN: Where would they be getting the nukes?

JACK: From -- well, from the United States. Yeah. So -- and after I talked about this last night, on a news hit, and someone sent me an article from the times of Israel, in which Netanyahu, actually says that that's a possibility on the table. I didn't know that before.

But so that was kind of nice to see that last night after I came off the air. But really, nuclear supremacy in the United States is what's on the table here.

GLENN: So we don't have a good relationship currently with the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Or do we?

JACK: I think it's -- it is -- you never know what you're looking at from the outside. But what's drastically and logically what's happening behind closed doors there. Is that US, Israel, Saudi Arabia are going to lead the way with this trilateral agreement to really change the -- the nature of the Middle East going forward.

So that's -- that's on the table. And, of course, Iran doesn't want that. Of course, Russia doesn't want that. Of course, China doesn't want that.

STU: So if Iran was behind this. Is Russia?

JACK: And really manipulate them to get what you want, at the -- at the larger, more established power. So you can almost -- I was going to say, you almost feel sorry, that they're manipulated like that. But that's the way of the world.

GLENN: So, Jack, as I've been thinking about this. I mean, Israel is one of our strongest allies. One of our best allies. They're the most like us in the Middle East for sure, and the only ones that I think, you know, would fight on the right side. The other side is Barbaric and evil, I think. And, you know, I hate to abandon Israel. But I also hate to get roped into a war with Russia and Iran, and possibly do the things they want us to do.

Because I think -- and you would know better than I. I think they're doing to us, what we did to the former Soviet Union. We're bankrupt them. We're dividing them from the inside. We're roping them into wars.

And everybody knows we're on the brink of -- of destruction here. What should we do to help the Israelis?

Because I also feel strongly, we need to help them.
JACK: Right. And I don't think the -- I agree with your assessment. But the division seems to be coming. It doesn't take too much to divide us. A little prod here. A little comment there.

But we're pretty good at dividing ourselves from the inside, which is absolutely heartbreaking.

Obviously at the end of World War II, we surprised the world by saying we were going to essentially defend trade routes around the world, that was going to be a benefit for all countries, coming out of the Second World War, and we just moved to carry a battle group, to send a very strong issue to Iran.

So our administration says, that there's no evidence linking Iran to the attacks. We did move a carrier to send a pretty clear message to Iran and in support of Israel. So that's something right there.

But we do move traps around the world, quite frankly. Obviously from the end of World War II, up to today, is the major way we project our strength. And really keep the world safe. And protect trade. Has worked up to this point. But now we're kind of retreating from that.

We don't have as many ships as we used to have. China is obviously building up their Navy. So things are shifting geopolitically in the world, as far as the military powers go. No doubt about that.

How long will that take? Not exactly sure. But there is a shift going on. What else can we do to support Israel?

I'm not sure they need much from us. Meaning we put a carrier battle group right there, if things do escalate, and Hezbollah does more in the North.

And something spills over into Iran. And then perhaps. But gloves are off right now.

Israel restraint is out the window.

They have restrained themselves over the last at least decade, towards Hamas. Maybe towards Hezbollah.

Ever strange now, completely out the window.

And Hamas has really thought that other insurgent groups, thought of Israel as an occupying nation, a colonial nation for lack of a better term. And they looked to the past, to the French Nazi area. They looked to the British in Kenya or India.

But the difference is, and for some reason, Hamas and other groups don't recognize this.

The French has France to go back to.

The British had Britain to go back to. Israel doesn't have anywhere to go. They're going to stand and fight. They have no other choice

NAFTA, their president. President Herzog, he addressed the nation in the weeks of the attacks. Concluded his remarks with something along the lines of, this time the state of Israel will win. We have no other choice.

GLENN: Okay.

Jack, I want to take you one more place. Hang on for 60 seconds.

And then I want to talk to you about our readiness as a nation.

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So the White House, we're talking to Jack Carr, said the president will struggle to help Israel replenish stockpiles of ammunition, as it gears up for full-scale war against the Iranian-backed terrorists in the back region.

The congressional official told the Wall Street Journal that they expect Israel to request advanced US-produced GBU 39 small diameter bombs.
Small arms. Ammunition. And 122-millimeter tank rounds, mortars, and more.

The officials said, being able to supply Israel with enough to mere interceptors to replenish their Iron Dome was most worrisome. And the biggest problem the administration will face.

How -- how -- how prepared are we, or are we just giving everything away?

JACK: Yeah. That's a great question. And one that our enemies are certainly asking. And certainly watching. They're seeing untold billions go to Ukraine, along with arms. And in other places around the world, of course, as well. Which begs the question: Well, how able are we to defend ourselves in a one-front war? A two-front war? A three-front?

And the answer to that, if you're looking from the outside, is we're probably not as prepared as a decade ago, two decades ago, even three, when we really draw down -- drew down at the end of the Cold War.

So the other side of this though, is that we have experience as a tactical level. We bring it at the strategic level. We have to be so adept with the senior level military leaders and politicians, even bureaucrats. But at the tactical level.

We have the most experienced force that we have ever had. Because that tactical level. Those E2s, E3s, E4s, E5s, E6s, E7s. Those officers who are now majors and lieutenant colonels.

They were once brand-new officers in '01, '02, '03, fighting in Iraq, fighting in Afghanistan. And they're coming up the ranks. They don't have as much to work with. But they have experience. So that's what we have. And that's something we need to capitalize on.

But experience without some of those tools. It makes things a little more difficult. So it's certainly something that we need to be aware of, that the next administration, needs to be aware of.

And if you want to capitalize on this experience, not let it go to waste. You want to turn those lessons we've turned in the last 20 years into wisdom, going forward.

Well, now we need to equip those soldiers, sailors, Marines. That have the experience. Sacrifice so much. With the tools they need to defend the nation.

GLENN: Jack Carr. Thank you so much.

When does your new book come out?

JACK: Next May. It's on the books right now. But my first non-fiction which actually has the Hezbollah connection. It's called Targeted.

My first non-fiction. 1983. Marine Barracks bombing.

GLENN: Wow.

JACK: It's coming out next fall.

So two books in the works for 2024.

GLENN: Great. Thank you, Jack. I appreciate it.
JACK: Thanks so much, take care.

GLENN: You bet. Jack Carr.

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Salena Zito reveals WHY Trump said “Fight! Fight! Fight!”

“I have a new purpose,” then-candidate Donald Trump told reporter Salena Zito after surviving the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. Salena joins Glenn Beck to reveal what Trump told her about God, his purpose in life, and why he really said, “Fight! Fight! Fight!”, as she details in her new book, “Butler: The Untold Story of the Near Assassination of Donald Trump and the Fight for America's Heartland”.

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GLENN: Salena, congratulations on your book. It is so good.

Just started reading it. Or listening to it, last night.

And I wish you would have -- I wish you would have read it. But, you know, the lady you have reading it is really good.

I just enjoy the way you tell stories.

The writing of this is the best explanation on who Trump supporters are. That I think I've ever read, from anybody.

It's really good.

And the description of your experience there at the edge of the stage with Donald Trump is pretty remarkable as well. Welcome to the program.

SALENA: Thank you, Glenn. Thank you so much for having me.

You know, I was thinking about this, as I was ready to come on. You and I have been along for this ride forever. For what?

Since 2006? 2005?

Like 20 years, right?

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

SALENA: And I've been chronicling the American people for probably ten more years, before that. And it's really remarkable to me, as watching how this coalition has grown. Right?

And watching how people have the -- have become more aspirational.

And that's -- and that is what the conservative populist coalition is, right?

It is the aspirations of many, but the celebration of the individual.

And chronicling them, yeah. Has been -- has been, a great honor.

GLENN: You know, I was thinking about this yesterday, when -- when Elon Musk said he was starting another party.

And somebody asked me, well, isn't he doing what the Tea Party tried to do?

No. The Tea Party was not going to start a new party.

It was to -- you know, it was to coerce and convince the Republican Party to do the right thing. And it worked in many ways. It didn't accomplish what we hoped.

But it did accomplish a lot of things.

Donald Trump is a result of the Tea Party.

I truly believe that. And a lot of the people that were -- right?

Were with Donald Trump, are the people that were with the Tea Party.

SALENA: That's absolutely right.

So that was the inception.

So American politics has always had movements, that have been just outside of a party. Or within a party.

That galvanize and broaden the coalition. Right? They don't take away. Or walk away, and become another party.

If anything, if there is a third party out there, it's almost a Republican Party.

Because it has changed in so many viable and meaningful ways. And the Tea Party didn't go away. It strengthened and broadened the Republican Party. Because these weren't just Republicans that became part of this party.

It was independents. It was Democrats.

And just unhappy with the establishment Republicans. And unhappy with Democrats.

And that -- that movement is what we -- what I see today.

What I see every day. What I saw that day, in butler, when I showed I happen at that rally.

As I do, so many rallies, you know, throughout my career. And that one was riveting and changed everything.

GLENN: You made a great case in the opening chapter. You talk about how things were going for Donald Trump.

And how this moment really did change everything for Donald Trump.

Changed the trajectory, changed the mood.

I mean, Elon Musk was not on the Trump train, until this.

SALENA: Yeah.

GLENN: Moment. What do I -- what changed? How -- how did that work?

And -- and I contend, that we would have much more profound change, had the media actually done their job and reported this the way it really was. Pragmatism

SALENA: You know, and people will find this in the book. I'm laying on the ground with an agent on top of me.

I'm 4 feet away from the president.

And there's -- there's notices coming up on my phone. Saying, he was hit by broken glass.

And to this take, that remains part of this sibling culture, in American politics.

Because reporters were -- were so anxious to -- to right what they believed happened.

As opposed to what happened.

And it's been a continual frustration of mine, as a reporter, who is on the ground, all the time.

And I'll tell you, what changed in that moment.

And I say a nuance, and I believe nuance is dead in American journalism.

But it was a nuance and it was a powerful conversation, that I had with President Trump, the next day. He called me the next morning.

But it's a powerful conversation I had with him, just two weeks ago.

When he made this decision to say, fight, fight, fight.

People have put in their heads, why they think he said it. But he told me why he said that. And he said, Salena, in that moment, I was not Donald Trump the man. I was a former president. I was quite possibly going to be president again.

And I had an obligation to the country, and to the office that I have served in, to project strength. To project resolve.

To project that we will not be defeated.

And it's sort of like a symbolic eagle, that is always -- you know, that symbol that we look at, when we think about our country.

He said, that's why I said that. I didn't want the people behind me panicking. I didn't want the people watching, panicking.

I had to show strength. And it's that nuance -- that I think people really picked up on.

And galvanized people.

GLENN: So he told me, when he was laying down on the stage.

And you can hear him. Let me get up. Let me get up.

I've got to get up.

He told me, as I was laying on the stage. I asked him, what were you thinking? What was going through your head? Now, Salena, I don't know about you.

But with me. It would be like, how do I get off the stage? My first was survival.

He said, what was going on through his mind was, you're not pathetic. This is pathetic.

You're not afraid. Get up.

Get up.

And so is that what informed his fight, fight, fight, of that by the time that he's standing up, he's thinking, I'm a symbol? Or do you think he was thinking, I'm a symbol, this looks pathetic. It makes you look weak.

Stand up. How do you think that actually happened?

SALENA: He thinks, and we just talked about this weeks ago. He -- you know, and this is something that he's really thought about.

Right? You know, he's gone over and over and over. And also, purpose and God. Right? These are things that have lingered with him.

You know, he -- he thought, yes.

He did think, it was pathetic that he was on the ground. But he wasn't thinking about, I'm Donald Trump. It's pathetic.

He's thinking, my country is symbolically on the ground. I need to get up, and I need to show that my country is strong.

That our country is resolute.

And I need people to see that.

We can't go on looking like pathetic.

Right?

And I think that then goes to that image of Biden.

GLENN: You have been with so many presidents.

How many presidents do you think that you've personally been with, would have thought that and reacted that way?

SALENA: Probably only Reagan. Reagan would have. Reagan probably would have thought that.

And if you remember how he was out like standing outside.

You know, waving out the window. Right?

After he was shot.

GLENN: At the hospital, right.

SALENA: Had he not been knocked out, unconscious, you know, he probably would have done the same thing.

Because he was someone who deeply believed in American exceptionalism.

And American exceptionalism does not go lay on the ground.

GLENN: And the symbol.

Right. The symbol of the presidency.

SALENA: Yeah. Absolutely. And I think that affects him today.

GLENN: So let me go back to God.

Because you talked to him the next day. And your book Butler.

He calls you up.

I love the fact that your parents would be ashamed of you. On what you said to him.

The language you used. That you just have to read the book.

It's just a great part.

But he calls you the next morning. And wants to know if you're okay.

And you -- you then start talking to him, about God.

And I was -- I was thinking about this, as I was listening to it. You know, Lincoln said, I wasn't -- I wasn't a Christian.

Even though, he was.

I wasn't a Christian, when I was elected. I wasn't a Christian when my son died.

I became a Christian at Gettysburg.

Is -- is -- I mean, I believe Donald Trump always believes in God, et cetera, et cetera.

Do you think there was a real profound change at Butler with him?

SALENA: Absolutely. You know, he called me seven times that day. Seven times, the take after seven.

GLENN: Crazy.

SALENA: Talked about. And I think he was looking for someone that he knew, that was there. And to try to sort it out.

Right? And I let him do most of the talking. I didn't pressure him.

At all. I believed that he was having -- you know, he was struggling. And he needed to just talk. And I believed my purpose was to listen.

Right? I know other reporters would have handled it differently. And that's okay. That's not the kind of reporter that I am.

And I myself was having my own like, why didn't I die?

Right?

Because it went right over my head.

And -- and so I -- he had the conversation about God.

He's funny. I thought it was the biggest mosquito in the world that hit me.

But he had talked profoundly about purpose. You know, and God.

And how God was in that moment.

It --

GLENN: I love the way you -- in the book, I love the way you said that as he's kind of working it out in his own he head.

He was like, you know, I -- I -- I always knew that there was some sort of, you know -- that God was present.

He said, but now that this has happened.

I look back at all of the trials.

All of the tribulations. Literally, the trials.

All of the things that have happened. And he's like, I realized God was there the whole time.

SALENA: Yes. He does. And it's fascinating to have been that witness to history, to have those conversations with him. Because I'm telling you. And y'all know, I can talk. I didn't say much of anything.

I just -- I just listened. I felt that was my purpose, in that moment.

To give him that space, to work it out.

I'm someone that is, you know, believes in God.

I'm Catholic. I followed my faith.

And -- and so, I thought, well, this is why God put me here. Right?

And to -- to have that -- to hear him talk about purpose, to hear him say, Salena. Why did I put a chart down?

I'm like, sir. I don't know. I thought you were Ross Perot for a second.

He never has a chart. And he laughed. And then he said, why did I put that chart down?

By that term, I never turned my head away from people at the rally. That's true.

That relationship is very transactional. It's very -- they feed off of each other.

It's a very emotive moment when you attend a rally. Because he has a way of talking at a rally. That you believe that you are seeing.

And he said, and I never turn my head away.

I never turn my head away.

Why did I turn my head away?

I don't remember consciously thinking about turning my head away. And then he says to me, that was God, wasn't it?

Yes, sir. It was. It was God.

And he said, that's -- that's why I have a new purpose.

And so, Glenn. I think it's important, when you look at the breadth of what has happened, since he was sworn in.

You see that purpose, every day.

He doesn't let up.

He continues going.

And it brings back to the beginning of the book.

Where you find out, that there was another president that was shot at in Butler.

And that was George Washington. And how different the country would have been, had he died in that moment.

And now think about how different the country would be, had President Trump died in that moment. There would be --

GLENN: We're talking to -- we're talking to Salena Zito. About her new book called Butler. The assassination attempt on President Trump. And it is riveting.

And, you know, it is so good. I wish the press would read it. Because it really explains who we are, who Trump supporters are. Who are, you know, red staters. It is so good at that. She's the best at that.