Many Americans across the country woke up on Thursday morning without cell service. But we still don’t know what caused the outage, which greatly affected AT&T customers, as well as some users of Verizon and T-Mobile. Was it a solar flare? Or was it a massive cyberattack? Either way, many Americans got a small taste of what life would be like after such an attack. So, are you prepared for an even bigger cellular outage, which would wipe out much more than your cell service: food, water, medicine, our entire supply chain? Glenn speaks with “One Second After” author William Forstchen, who has been warning about the devastating effects of an EMP or cyberattack for years. He and Glenn explain what you should have on hand to be ready.
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errorsGLENN: Over 50,000 AT&T outages were reported, officially at 7:00 a.m. Eastern time this morning. Most issues were happening in Houston, Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, and Atlanta.
Other -- other systems were also affected. Verizon and T-Mobile. Looks like -- well, looks like they're heading on the way back up. And most of it is fixed.
They don't know what it was. But yesterday, there was a cyber attack on the phone systems, the cellular systems in Israel.
And the Israelis are reporting that that was Iran that did that. I think this is on me a matter of time, before we see stuff that will cause real problems.
There's a -- a guy, John A. Cuff.
He wrote today. Tweeted, once you've read One Second After, cell phone outages carry a different weight. And it's true.
If you've never read One Second After, I highly, highly recommend it. It was written by William Forstchen. And he tells the story about what happens, one second after an EMP. And it -- I mean, you will -- it will open your eyes into how dependent we are.
And this was written years ago. And at the time, I was like, oh, my gosh, I never even thought about that.
Oh, man. Yeah. That would no longer -- you just don't think of it. And Williams is with us now, to talk about the outage, and the attacks on our truck. Hi, William. How are you?
WILLIAM: Good morning, again. And thank you for the kind words about my book.
GLENN: Yeah. It's fantastic. William, the attack on cell phones. Our cell phones go down. And I think, a lot of Americans, they go into detox immediately. Like, I don't know what to do.
But this is something. We don't know about today. But this is something that we know our Department of Homeland Security is saying, they are waiting for cyber attacks.
It's a matter of -- of when, not if, anymore. And they're preparing.
What. Go ahead.
WILLIAM: You know, Glenn. My college. One Tree College, has a strong cyber security training program. And I'll go in their lab and just sit there sometimes. Half an hour later, I walked out scared to death.
Because if you saw the number of attacks, incoming attacks on our infrastructure, on our military, it's unrelenting.
We don't even know if some of them have broken through. Put sleepers into them. And are waiting to hit.
This is just a foretaste of the future.
GLENN: So tell me what do you think is most likely, and how it will affect us. And what we should -- how we should prepare for it.
WILLIAM: Well, first of all, if our cell phones really were dead, my daughter would have a nervous breakdown.
GLENN: I think a lot of children would.
WILLIAM: Yeah, the whole college. But number one, of course, is cyber attack. That's unrelenting from Russia, any number of bad players. Number two, actual --
GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait.
Cyber attack, could include our water system. Our electrical grid.
Or -- do you think it would be all of it, or some of it?
WILLIAM: It could be targeted to a specific or in a general offensive. Like what I would call a first strike scenario, are widespread.
For example, take where you are. To pose water, all across the board, will shut down for 48 hours.
Because that's all electronically controlled.
What would happen to your town in one day, if all water was turned off?
GLENN: It wouldn't be good.
WILLIAM: It would be very bad, within 24 to 38 hours.
WILLIAM: I'm mainly focusing more on our electrical infrastructure.
I'm doing a lot of work. I talked with FEMA last week.
That's the bad one. Because if you lose electricity, that's the fundamental Billy -- then everything goes.
Water food, medical, all of it.
All of our distribution systems are off and on.
GLENN: How prepared -- I hate asking people questions like this.
How prepared are we?
WILLIAM: We're not.
GLENN: Okay. You're not improving my mood much.
WILLIAM: And my talk with southeast FEMA last week. There are a lot of good people working in that system. They're not bad guys.
And they say the number one thing is, if only Americans would be prepared, one month worth of emergency supplies on hand.
That applies to everybody.
Whether you're living in an apartment in the city. Have emergency water on hand.
Have food on hand.
Charge your systems up.
Have a small cell phone charger. These are basic things. And 90 percent of Americans just rile go along.
It could be a very bad day.
Don't you want to be prepared before, rather than after?
GLENN: So if something like this happens, would we be -- do you think we would be in lockdown situation? Or would you be able to travel to --
If you lost your whole electrical grid, even just regionally.
It would very quickly have to be a lockdown. To avoid panic.
Trying to keep control on population. Those people living in New York, remember when sandy hit ten years ago.
It got a little hairy there. Even though, tens of thousands of emergency supplies were being moved in.
They were down for two weeks. It would have been really bad.
GLENN: Yeah, my -- my uncle used to -- my uncle used to work for, I don't know. What department in -- in the military.
But he did some of the original studies on, you know, the aftereffects of war. And crisis.
And everything else.
And he said, generally speaking, you have 72 hours.
If everything isn't restored in 72 hours, you're done. You're done.
WILLIAM: Right. He is dead-on the mark.
72-hour max. Again, if you have -- everybody listening to you. If you have a month' worth of emergency supplies on hand, it doesn't cost that much.
You can at least hunker down, while the crazies are running up and down the street.
GLENN: Yeah. So if we had -- you know, there's -- it's strange.
You know, I -- I thought EMP is the worst thing that could happen to us ever.
WILLIAM: It is.
GLENN: However, the more I see AI and everything else, it may in the end. And I'm saying 50 years from now. If AI has gotten out of control. An EMP may be our best friend. It will kill millions of people. But it will release a slavery. If God forbid, I'm in science fiction world here. But God forbid, AI went bad.
It's -- the ones and zeros would have to be confused.
WILLIAM: Well, the EMP scenario, which indeed is the worse.
According to two Congressional studies, which I base my novels on. I've done four books on the subject. Eighty to 90 percent of the population would be dead a year later. And people go, what?
Again, no food. No water. No medical supply.
No command and control.
People die. And they die very quickly.
GLENN: You know, when I read, this is years ago. One second after.
It almost feels like the chaos surrounding us today is too much. We’ve had 7.2 million migrants illegally enter the U.S. since President Joe Biden took office. We’ve got record inflation and violent crime rates. How did our country turn UPSIDE DOWN so fast? Glenn explains that what’s happening today isn’t actually “chaos,” because the definition of “chaos” is “complete disorder and confusion.” The people behind everything happening in our country today aren’t confused all. In fact, the current destruction America is experiencing today was by DESIGN. Glenn walks you through the playbook, which is borrowed from Barack Obama. The Obama playbook for fundamental transformation was something called “Top Down, Bottom Up, and Inside Out.” A similar plan was used by the Soviets to flip a capitalist Czechoslovakia to communist. The progressive U.S. version is modeled on a strategy written by American socialists from the 1960s called the Cloward-Piven Strategy. When Glenn first outlined this strategy over 10 years ago, the media mocked him, but no one is laughing now as the top pillars of society begin to crumble: government, culture, law and order, the economy, media and information. Topple just one of these, and you could force a country — even one as powerful as the United States — to fall.
Something just isn’t right about what our country has become, and we all know it. Glenn reviews 9 stories that reveal how crazy things have gotten. New York City, for one, is facing crisis after crisis, including inflation, illegal immigration, and crime. When entire hotels are being rented out to house migrants, Glenn argues that we should stop and ask, WHO is paying for that?! And when there’s a horse running on a highway in Philadelphia, maybe it’s time to just completely rethink the direction we’re heading in …
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GLENN: I saw this last night, and I thought, can you play it? There it is. Yeah.
Now, that's somebody with their phone. Outside of their window, on the driver's side, going, I can't -- I can't -- am I seeing this. I have to film this. Because I don't think anyone has ever seen that before.
STU: Keeping up nicely with traffic though. Those were quick animals.
GLENN: Yes. Yeah, I think that was an expensive -- well, it was -- it's that close to Philadelphia.
You know, you don't keep one in a walkup. You know, a park -- you know --
STU: That would be a strange choice.
GLENN: It would a strange choice.
STU: But, again, you also don't keep it on the highway. So who knows what's going on?
GLENN: Right. Right.
I mean, how did they find the onramp? It's a horse. How did they find the onramp?
STU: Really fascinating.
GLENN: There's a lot of questions on that one, but I don't think we're going to get to them.
Now, let me show you some of the other things.
And let's see if you can tie together, what I'm driving at.
Okay. There is a method to the madness on the things I'm going to show you.
These things I just saw last night.
This isn't like, yeah. Well, I saw this a month ago.
I've been saying.
These are things, that I spent 20 minutes, just scrolling, going, wow.
That one. That one.
Let's so on let's start with cut 12, please.
GLENN: All the New Yorkers in New York City, please, pay attention to what I'm about to say.
I know this morning got a list from my controller, to tell us the tax annual assessments and values. This happens every January to February. I got mine. Just on a few of our properties, just a few of them, every single one of them are going up. Some of them are going up ten to 15 percent. All the way up to 60, 75 percent. You have no clue what this means to this industry.
Now have clue, what this means to every average New Yorker.
Everybody in New York City, is affected.
Because I have stores here, supermarkets. $12,000. $14,000. I have -- I have small three-family buildings, renting them. Going up $9,000. Increase on top of the 30 thousands that I'm paying.
GLENN: That's crazy. That's crazy. Okay.
So everybody is paying a lot more. That's weird.
Cut -- cut 13. This is one about the hotels in New York.
VOICE: Here is the hotel.
VOICE: This is one of the hotels as transformed into the shelter.
VOICE: We will walk in there. And see what kind of operation they're running inside.
VOICE: Really nice hotel.
VOICE: How is it going?
VOICE: Oh, yeah. We're just checking in on the hotel. There's a ton of people in here.
GLENN: Because it's a shelter.
VOICE: Migrants going in?
VOICE: Yeah. It's no longer --
VOICE: How many floors is this?
VOICE: Thirty floors.
Is it full? Yeah.
VOICE: You guys aren't allowed to talk about it? Why do you think it's a big secret, Duke?
GLENN: I don't know. We just follow orders.
VOICE: They signed the contract with an outside source, saying they will pay them rent, in order for them to house the migrants. And the hotels love it because it is guaranteed money every single night. And that array of $200 per night at the hotel.
And with 1,331 rooms, that is $260,000 a day. $1.8 million a week. And $7.2 million a month.
GLENN: Okay. $7.2 million a month.
For one hotel.
Who is -- who is writing that check again?
Isn't that kind of important?
Who is writing that check?
One month, 7.2 million dollars.
Oh, that makes me understand the -- the other guy, who is like, look at our assessment on our buildings.
Up 75 percent tax.
Okay. All right.
So can we just play the horse running town, just because I need -- oh, there he is.
Now let me show you, can we take cut six, please.
VOICE: Some of those suburban areas.
Are having double-digit car thefts with be in a week.
Sometimes in a day. People are stealing tires at a record rate. There's no consequences, accountability, repercussions.
GLENN: Hmm. Hmm. And there's problems CNN said with homelessness. Cut seven please.
VOICE: The number of people experiencing homelessness in a single night. Went up 12 percent in a single night in 2023.
In part, because COVID programs preventing evictions and housing losses came to an end.
A quarter of those people were unhoused for the first time in their lives.
VOICE: How many people fell into homelessness during COVID.
VOICE: Before COVID, there were probably about 20 or 30,000 people. Now it's 46,000.
GLENN: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Here is -- here, I think this is Curtis. Just standing on third avenue. Which when I lived in New York.
You can't -- you can't stand in the middle of the street.
Here he is on third Avenue.
VOICE: This is something you'll never see in the middle of the day. Third Avenue in New York City.
This is the future. When everybody leaves and heads to Florida.
They're on the way to Texas. Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina.
Look. So what do we have here?
Because they've all fled the city. And it will only be a city of criminals. Emotionally disturbed migrants. I am Nostradamus. I see what's coming in 2024. Vast sea of emptiness.
GLENN: Well, that's good. That's good.
So let's see, we have too many migrants coming in.
More migrants, the collection of migrants that have been added to our country in the last three and a half years. Equal the population.
Of 38 states in America.
Equal or above the population of 38 -- we only have 50 states. I just want you to know that.
We only have 50.
38 of them are now smaller, than the people we have let in.
That's into -- I mean, I mean -- that's interesting.
And then we have some really, really.
I mean, we have some real problems. And I'm glad that we're dealing. What are we focused on.
VOICE: The whom who runs the bullying account, lives of TikTok. Was given a spot on the Oklahoma library board. The statewide board.
She is not from --
GLENN: Now, could I just stop for a second.
This is a man in a dress.
Who clearly has --
STU: You don't like him.
GLENN: I don't. I don't. I think it's a little. And you might want to shave just a little bit. And the low cut tress there is nice. But if we know maybe you would shave just -- anyway, this guy is having a serious conversation, about what's acceptable in the library. And people are just watching it and going, well, he's making a good point.
He's not -- how!
Play the damn horse, running down the --
GLENN: How about this one?
VOICE: I've seen this question. My problem is, I'm too hot. I'm too successful in my career. I make too much money. I have too many amazing friends and family. Too many cute clothes. Do you know how hard it is, to choose an outfit each day?
People sliding into my DMs every day.
GLENN: Okay. Stop. It's a man with boobs. It's a woman with a beard. I don't -- I have -- I don't know.
STU: They never had to deal with problems like that. They're too hot. People slipping into your DMs. This person has to deal with that every day.
GLENN: Do you know how hard it is to pick out a set of clothes every day?
No. I have no idea. I wear the same clothes. I have been wearing them since the third grade.
What the hell is wrong with you?
I swear to you, I mean, this story makes more sense than any other story I've seen today.
Oh, wow. Look, a horse running down a highway in Philadelphia.
When that becomes, eh.
STU: That's the most sensible story we've talked about in this segment. Sometimes horses run county the highway.
GLENN: Now, I would just like to point out. And maybe I've been in a coma. So I don't remember it. Sometimes you won't remember a coma. And you're all being nice, and you're like, don't say anything to him. He's forgotten he's been this a coma for 400 years. And we were in -- I don't know. Some freezer.
I don't know how this happened. But maybe I've been in a coma. But from where I'm sitting, none of this is normal.
May we just all take a moment and go, none of this is normal!
This is not the way a civilization behaves.
Am I alone on this?
I don't --
STU: Apparently so.
GLENN: Apparently, I --
STU: Apparently so. By the way, the horse is okay.
GLENN: The horse is --
STU: Yeah. The horse is okay.
GLENN: That would be the thing. Out of this monologue. Somebody -- well, what happened to the horse?
STU: I was --
GLENN: It's those damn cars, and those SUVs. I don't know what they're doing there. They're killing the planet. Have you heard about the big umbrella that we want to put in space?
Don't put big umbrellas in space. Are you out of your minds?
Oh, man. I just -- if I was in a coma, I want the doctors to know, put me back into the coma, please.
Former president Donald Trump has warned the state of New York that businesses will flee if the civil fraud charges levied against him aren’t overturned. But New York’s governor has promised that other businesses have nothing to worry about. So, is there cause for concern? Former investment banker Carol Roth joins Glenn to explain why this ruling should be “horrifying for everybody who is in business.” Plus, she addresses whether conservatives should celebrate as progressive organizations appear to backtrack on their woke agendas, or whether this is all an election season ploy.
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GLENN: Carol Roth, a former New York Wall Street banker, who, you know, woke up and went, what am I -- am I on the wrong side.
And she has done an awful lot of good. She's the author now, of, you will own nothing. Former investment banker. I have her on, because I want to talk to her about BlackRock's new voting system.
But she has a couple of things I want to let you know.
First, she has a new newsletter out.
CarolRoth.com/news. Sign up for it. CarolRoth.com/news.
Carol, I wanted to start with you, because you are a former New York investment banker.
What is the fallout going to be on this Donald Trump conviction and 355 million dollar fine?
Never been done before, not even with the Gambino crime family they never did this.
CAROL: Yeah. Okay. So just to be correct, San Francisco investment banker, because I don't want to lump myself with all of those New York investment bankers.
GLENN: Like that's any better.
CAROL: So the complications of this are horrifying for everybody who is in business.
When you think about presenting your company in the best light, whether it is a startup firm, a venture Capitol firm.
A private equity firm.
Real estate holdings.
Any publicly or privately held company, that has adjusted EBITA.
They are saying, here's what we think the business is. But we will put this in the best light.
And what this particular judgment has done, in my opinion, has said, even if somebody hasn't gotten hurt.
Even if the bank that you presented this to.
Or the investor said, hey, we made a ton of money. We're not a counterparty to this suit.
That the state can come in and say, well, we don't think this is right. We've done our own calculations. We see that you have some numbers that you got wrong here, and we are going to charge you with fraud civilly. Not criminally. Civilly.
And then put in some insane judgment, that is basically like sitting your finger in there. And seeing which way the wind blows. Because there is no actual damages.
The bank has said, that they were not victimized, that they made a ton of these.
And so who really is the counterparty here.
They are saying, there is some ill-gotten gain. They made this up.
And this has an incredibly disturbing implication, for any business.
If this is the standard, then basically, I would say, every business in the United States, somebody needs to be thrown in jail. And assessed hundreds of millions of dollars.
Because this happens throughout all business.
GLENN: Well, I will tell you, if Elon Musk were still in California, I bet he would be shaking in his boots. Because if this can happen in New York, it can happen in California.
And they're already going after him, with all kinds of stuff. Even if you're on the right side currently, if your company ever falls against the state, on anything, you're opening yourself for the end.
I mean, how -- how much of an impact will this have, on businesses being and locating themselves in New York?
CAROL: Well, that's the interesting question. Because everybody thinks that it can't happen to them.
Oh, it's Donald Trump. He's done all of these things that we've heard about in the media. This can never happen to me. And there's a lot of ego and a lot of hubris, particularly with the financial services and other companies that are based in New York City.
We have seen some level of exodus based on crime, taxes. And other decisions.
Obviously, the ones who have been savvy, have already gotten out of there. Started to decouple from New York.
But I think the -- when something like this happens, they see this big personality, and they say, it can't happen to me.
But why not?
Why can't it happen to you?
If you go against whatever the narrative is.
If you go against the state. And, you know, you say something, that they don't like. This is -- you know, as we've talked about before. Sort of a soft form of social credit.
You are not aligned with what we want. So we will find ways to penalize you, financially.
GLENN: It's terrible.
CAROL: And it is absolutely terrifying.
GLENN: All right. So let me talk to you here. We have about six minutes here to talk about this.
GLENN: Justin Haskins. Who is my cowriter of my book.
We talk about ESG and all of this stuff. All the time.
Go back and forth.
He's much -- if you think I'm a pessimist.
He's more of a pessimist.
He wrote to me the other day. Glenn, this is great news.
The Europe ESG collapse. And now companies are getting out. Even BlackRock says they're getting out of it.
And I said, whoa. Whoa. Whoa, whoa.
We're entering the time of an election. And this is also what every progressive institution does.
They are exposed.
Oh, we're not going to do that with your gas stove.
And then they do it, anyway, in another form.
Are you -- I mean, we should celebrate that we have them on the ropes. But we believe so let the pressure up. We have to pursue them.
Because they're trying to make an escape.
CAROL: Yeah. I think this is the absolute perfect analogy. And I know Justin and we have conversations offline as well about all this stuff.
And I do think there are a lot of things to celebrate.
Because of the work that you and Justin have done, Glenn.
Your audience has done in raising awareness.
Some of these state level leadership. We are seeing a lot of shifts happening. You know, we saw JPMorgan. Pimco. State Street. All extract themselves from the climate 100-plus pledge, which is basically financial institutions. Cracking down on companies. And trying to push them into this ESG, these directives. And so we just saw that happen this week. And part of that is because they are afraid of the legislation, and -- and being hit with lawsuits. In fact, BlackRock, which shifted from the US being part of it. To just Europe being part of it.
Within -- they cited lawsuits. Potential lawsuits, as one of the concerns. So this is -- come from The New York Times. Main Street media. They are concerned, but it's not fluff.
And, you know, that goes back to this new BlackRock voting initiative. Proxy voting initiative.
Where they don't want to be the ones to take the blame. And say, well, we're not pushing this. You're voting for it.
Instead of, you know, going ahead, and giving you the ultimate choice on how to vote.
They will give you options. But of their options, almost all of them has to do -- I know this will shock you, Glenn. With climate or climate impact. Or environment.
GLENN: Wow. So I could have Soviet communism, Chinese communism, or --
CAROL: Or North Korean.
GLENN: Or North Korean communism. But I can choose. I can choose. Wow. That's quite a choice.
CAROL: Yeah. And it's -- I was going to say --
GLENN: Go ahead.
CAROL: I was going to say. The way they're doing it is obviously, they've been paying attention to your program. Because they're trying to really manipulate you in one direction or another.
They have this one choice, that's called the ISS Catholic faith-based policy.
So you're going, oh, okay. That's great. That's going to be aligned potentially with my rales. And patriotic values. But what they say is, quote, it's aligned with social responsibility. And quote, the active ownership. And investment philosophies of -- I'm sorry. Broadly consistent with the objectives of socially responsible shareholders, as well as the teachings of Catholicism and Christianity.
And then they talk about social, environmental impact. That they're going along with the social and environmental philosophies of Catholic-based teaching.
GLENN: That's unbelievable.
STEPHEN: They're really trying to make sure you don't read this. And say, oh, this will be aligned with my values.
They're just pushing in a different way to manipulate you. So now they can say you're the (inaudible).
GLENN: Unbelievable. So damn evil.
CAROL: It is.
GLENN: I am looking at all of the things that are happening. Like the farmers. You know, that's -- that's kind of calmed down now over in Europe. Because the politicians said, you know what, you're right. You're right. We're not going to push those things. We're going to hold. We're going to hold. There's an election coming up this summer. But after the election, we'll bring that back up. And I think you're right.
And I think the farmers might be dumb enough to think they won. But they didn't win.
You cannot -- this is like -- any good war strategy.
You cannot let them regroup. Fall back and regroup someplace else. You must pursue them, at some point.
Because they're going to keep doing it over and over. They'll just pop up someplace else, or under a different name. Or another new way to manipulate, the reality.
And you have to -- if you don't pursue them, you have to start all over again.
CAROL: Yeah. So the farmers have obviously been very brave. And they've been leading the way.
And, yeah. I think they may have won the battle. But they haven't won the war. There was an article that came out in the Financial Times this morning. About here in the US.
About the amount of investment dollars that keeps increasing, in terms of buying up farmland. And that the average age of farmers here in the United States is 58.
I would imagine that there are similar demographics than issues going on around the world.
So they may be placating and saying, we will drop this.
But we know through the fight against natural asset companies. You know, some of these other proposals that are coming to the table. And things they're moving around. That they're finding other ways to achieve their objectives. I think the good news is, is that we are having an impact. Whether it's the farmers. Whether it's the listeners here, using their voice.
But I know it seems exhausting. But you've got to devote some part of every week, to advocacy. Because we're in a situation, where -- like you said, you cannot let up there. On the ropes. If you let them get that second win, they will come back and go back at you, with some jabs and a right hook.
GLENN: Carol Roth. Thank you so much.
God bless. We'll talk to you again soon. Carol Roth. The author of, you will own nothing.
She also has her new newsletter out.
You can find it at CarolRoth.com/news.