MSNBC host fails to spin White House lies

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The Obama administration has been happy to attack Romney based on lies and half-truths, but its concerning when so-called news anchors jump on the bandwagon. And yet, that’s exactly what is happening. On Tuesday, MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell follows the talking points of the White House in her interview with New Hampshire Governor John Sununu, during which she tried to defend the debunked “outsourcer-in-chief” attacks on Mitt Romney.

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“Isn’t it a winning issue for the White House, fundamentally, granted that the PolitiFact folks and the Washington Post pointing out that the President’s campaign ad on that issue had a lot of questions and a lot of questionable attacks?” Mitchell asked in the interview.

“But they said it was wrong. A lot of questionable tactics is not right, it was wrong,” Sununu responded.

Glenn, Pat, and Stu played the segment on radio this morning.

“From the very beginning she is just struggling so hard to make something out of the lies the White House is continuing to spin,” Pat said in response.

“Here’s the deal: (MSNBC) You put yourself out of business, we’ll continue to grow, and then we’ll move Mercury into 30 Rock. I have no problem with that,” Glenn said.

“Because we’ll have so many viewers because you’ll have none,” Glenn told Mitchell.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    The White House and their propaganda meisters are engaged in another rear guard action; they have been caught completely with their pants down and now try to spin, deny, and blame others while claiming the lies are actually substantiated facts.

    So how many of the stimulus dollars went to overseas business and investment; when the so called ‘green jobs’ and resources were to be spent here at home?

    Its interesting that the Democrats denounce falsehoods of Romney, concerning a business he was not part of at the times they speak of “outsourcing” of jobs; when Obama has in effect done the same, and of claiming off shore, secret bank accounts and buisnesses when many of them have the same.

    Double standards and desperation combined with arrogance and narcissism are making them more and more out of touch with reality. Their activities are criminal at the least, treasonous at the most, and they do need to understand, a day of accounting is soon to be at hand.

  • Anonymous

    that was quite humorous! was she doing some serious tap dancing or what?

  • Anonymous

    what people are scared of for their investments is the deregulated dragon of Wall Street eating them again.  Romney’s policies are the same as G.W. Bush’s were, where we had two economic crashes, and negative private sector job growth, with 1 Million people added to the public payroll over 8 years.  In the last 3 years, we have added over 4 million jobs to the private sector.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JP3WDAGJVFLRWNAB3DMXLORTVU 2 cents

    Of all the people who I would have thought would make me watch MSNBC….it was you Beck…the man I thought least would do it.

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s more likely that someone has their panties down. Pants are more common to men. Or is Adread faking it…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LXX6SBDVCZOT3AM65FV3XMYTHM David

    she got caught she’s like a caged lion with no where to go  how do you communist crack heads like that?

  • Anonymous

    Obama has not only squandered our money but sent it overseas. Hilarious and pathetic how Mitchell squirms to cover for obama’s dishonesty.

  • Anonymous

    Ha Ha I seem to recall 4-5% unemployment figures under Bush. If most of the people that can work are working and unemploymet goes from 4.5-4.8% you can claim negative private sector job growth happened but let’s compare that to the last 40+ months above 8%. Then you go on to say 4 million jobs created under OB?? Why don;t you talk about net gain or losses? If we needed 8 million to improve the unemployment picture and only 4 million were created how is this good compared to the unemployment numbers under Bush? Not to mention unemployment figures don’t count those that have stopped looking. No amount of spin changes the facts. I also think it’s funny that Obaa does not argue that Romney createdjobs it’s just a question of where he created jobs. Even if he sent jobs overseas at least it would prove he is capable of creating jobs. Obama hasn’t created any net jobs since he started.          

  • http://twitter.com/wickerpplking KNG of the WCKER PPL

    fun with numbers! I’m sure if we look at the full term of Obama we’d get a different number. or how about if you only count the Bush years when he had a Republican Congress? Should the recession, that happened when Democrats took Congress, count toward their total?

  • Anonymous

    The debt is accelerating at a far more substantial rate under Obama than under Bush, and the unemployment rate during every stage of Bush’s presidency, EVEN AT THE VERY END DURING THE RECESSION, was lower than it has been throughout the entire Obama administration’s time at work.  This is the truth, either accept it for what it is or continue to live in denial.  I cannot legislate your brain, in fact NOBODY can.  That part is up to you.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has told a lie by making an ad that said that Romney outsourced jobs.  The Left will follow its ONLY moral premise, which is the false equivalency principle.  They cannot refute that Obama has lied so they will now say, “ALL politicians lie, so Obama is just like the COLLECTIVE of politicians in every way.  Romney probably lies all the time too.  We can’t find where he lies but, oh yeah we forgot, BUSH was a big time liar, yeah don’t you see? Obama has to lie to get his way out of this mess BUSH created!  The ends justify the means!  Now if we could only just have good, pure Socialism without that annoying Tea Party in the way, then we could get this country right back on track!”  Sorry lefties, I can’t condition my brain to wrap around pure BS.  

  • Anonymous

    private sector job creation under President Obama has far exceeded private sector job creation under President Bush. 40 months into his presidential term, there are currently more private sector jobs in the economy than when Obama came into office. At the same point in President Bush’s term, the total number of private sector jobs was still down 1.7 percent from where it began.

    The numbers are even starker when measuring each president’s record from the moment job creation returned. Private sector job creation returned in February of 2010, the 13th month of President Obama’s term. Since then, the economy has added 4.3 million private sector jobs, a 4 percent increase.

    Under President Bush, the economy stopped shedding private sector jobs in July of 2003, fully 30 months into his administration. From that point until May of 2004, the economy added just 1.5 million private sector jobs, an increase of only 1.4 percent.

    But there is one area of job creation where President Bush clearly outshines President Obama: the public sector. Public sector employment is now down 608,000 workers since January 2009, a 2.7 percent decline. At the same point in President Bush’s term, public sector employment was up 3.7 percent. If, over the past 40 months, public sector employment had grown at the same pace as it did in President Bush’s first term, there would be 1.4 million additional people at work right now. That’d be enough to bring the unemployment rate down by nearly a full percentage point. http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm The Democrats had 50 or 51 in the Senate in 2006, and 233 in the House. They didn’t have enough to overrule any veto’s or pass anything with out Republican support and Bush signing it.

  • Anonymous

    sending a job from America to China isn’t creating a job, it’s moving it. Bush set the ship on fire, and then dove into the water. Numbers were already trending towards 10% unemployment when Bush was in office, Obama put out that fire in the first 13 months he was in office, and since then has been adding positive jobs every month.

  • Anonymous

    I wish I could laugh but what we are finding out is with the MSM on your side you can get away with anything, anything like Eric Holder, Solyndra, I won’t take up the whole page , with them against you , you can’t accidentally touch someone’s foot at dinner , without it becoming a big story as in the case of Herman Cain. Why can’t more people be like Mr. Sununu…everyone wake up and argue the facts..the MSM has been getting away with it too , too long..

  • Anonymous

    Thank you John Sununu…Excellent!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_45W2ZR4OHIJLUGSU3FBIYXHVKY William H

    Nicely, done, Mr. Sununu.

    How is it that Miz Mitchell was so unprepared for the very obvious comeback to her little campaign speech for Obama?   Really, now, a professional talking head should at least have an inkling of what the opposition might say in an interview-  she appears flabbergasted at being caught up on her statement that though Politifact found Obama’s ad to be a freakin’ lie, isn’t Romney MORE vulnerable, blah, blah, blah…

    Is she just ashamed at how idiotic that statement was, or does she never speak to anyone outside her left-wing comfort zone?

  • Anonymous

    The economies big crash was in Sept of 2008, the economy wasn’t done diving when Bush left office, just because someone who could read above a 6th grade level was now in office. What leads to debt? Unemployment people, two wars we just started paying for in 2009, unfunded tax breaks, unfunded medicare subscriptions and 1 million plus people added to the government pay roll, plus a more than doubling of the defense budget. When did all those things start happening? The United States lost 653000 private-sector jobs on Bush’s watch, and that doesn’t even take into account the increase in population

  • CaptainAmerica

    http://factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-outsourcer-overreach/
    This article pretty well shows the spin being put on by Obama’s campaign staff, and it shows it to be a falsification of the facts. Every point that this article covered and that the Obama campaign and MSNBC has been trying to push has been proven to be distortions of fact if not outright lies. 

    Leave it to liberals – if they know something, it’s bound to be a lie, and if they say something, the same rule applies. They can’t accomplish their goals under the light of truth, so they lie and cheat and steal to get what they want. Morally and literally speaking, they are not to be trusted.

  • Anonymous

    You really need to read a recent column by Thomas Sowell. Adding positive jobs while you’re losing more jobs is not net job creation. Spin it all you want …. we continue to lose jobs under Obama.

  • http://www.facebook.com/catecholamine.2010 Jackie Oliver

    What a fool.
    This is perfectly representative of the dishonesty, laziness and arrogance of the Obongo administration and his pathetic cheerleaders in the state run media.

  • ghastly1

    Andrea is either senile, or Obama has something on her and/or her hubby. No rational, serious newscaster behaves this way. It’s pitiful!

  • mdkrause

    I could just imagine the producers while this interview was going on. How are we going to cut and paste this interview.
    How bad is it when the person you are interviewing starts laughing at you.
    She looks like a complete babling idiot.

  • Anonymous

    You don’t have to FUND a tax break, you have to FUND government programs. Unemployment leads to debt right? Did you ignore my comment about unemployment being worse under Obama? Why is it bad do increase the defense budget? How do you think your freedoms are being protected?

  • Anonymous

    romney will create jobs for both americans in the private sector and other countries, while obama only creates US government jobs and transports jobs to other countries at the expense of the american private sector 

  • http://www.facebook.com/stephen.morris.92 Stephen Morris

    To think – I had to listen to this crap throughout he 60s and 70s with no recourse.  No internet, no GBTV, no FOX news, just Walter (“the most trusted man in America”) spinning the progressive line.

  • Gemlady

    Hey Romney, maybe he should be your VP.  He knows his stuff &won’t sit back and take it.

  • Anonymous

    it is like andrea wants the guy to kick her ass and have Obama out because even libs are realizing that Obama is a dud

  • Anonymous

    those numbers are net, we lost jobs the first 13 months of Obama’s time in office, but have been gaining jobs every month since.

  • Anonymous

    You don’t have to fund a tax break? you’re kidding, right? If you don’t adjust spending, and you are taking in less money, you are just adding to the debt and directly to the deficit. Re: Defense, Spending is spending, independent of what you spend it on, so if we don’t have the tax dollars coming in, and we keep spending more money, that’s deficit spending for the defense budget. We currently spend 48% of the world’s defense budget, China spends the second most @ 9%. So defense spending isn’t bad by itself, but over spending on defense is just like over spending on social programs, it is wasteful. If we spent 25% of the world’s defense spending, we would still more than double China’s spending and still be safe.

  • deanks

    If her life would have depended on that interview… Her MSNBC colleagues would be going to her funeral!

  • http://goo.gl/SUQxK Right Fielder

    Owned… as they say.

  • Anonymous

    RON PAUL IS STILL A GO.

  • Jerry Bruss

    There is sooooo much rear guard action going on in the Obumkin patch these days, it’s funny just to watch them scrabble and step on each other.   There are so may lies, they can’t even
    keep them straight amongst themselves.   Bigger government then is needed, entitlements up the ying yang, fabulous trips to everywhere on our dime.   None of them were declared as other than required by the office.   Obama is living the dreams of his father, on the nightmares he is causing all of us.   Michelle is so spoiled right now, she wants to reside in Washington permanently.   They are both so happy to be outof Chicago and living the “high” life, they will have to write another book to cover the “dream”experience.    But, sooner or later, It’s back to the ghetto, my friend.  Change and the dream thing will vanish just like a fairy tale.  Hopefully !       

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/C76UJAST5FNMMKFR2LEPY7Q4Y4 C

    Andrea needs to stay home & feed the dogs. What a useless twit!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hannah-Abbott/100001145910796 Hannah Abbott

    Andrea Mitchell is a complete imbecile, but worse she is an imbecile with a position of influence on a national network.  Shame on MSNBC and shame on anyone who is connected with keeping her employed.

    Not a big fan of Sununu, but he just destroyed Mitchell to the point that she looked unprepared, bias and illiterate. . . . what has become of this country when someone like Andrea Mitchell is on a national network?

    And lastly, I wonder just how smart Alan Greenspan really is. . .there is no way he could carry on a conversation with someone so lacking a grasp on reality or so intellectually void. . . .

  • http://www.facebook.com/noko.lauri Noko Lauri

    Andrea Mitchell: “Homina.. homina …homina..”

  • Anonymous

    Awesome! And another raving lunatic bites the dus.

  • Anonymous

    You’re struggling Andrea: Classic. If you’re going to take on Sununu you need to have your facts (not talking points) straight.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure the dumb girl,  ( Mitchell),  won’t invite him back to talk about anything.  She has zero facts and it shows.  Where did they find her, in a “Show Bar”???

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sandy-Caruso/1587245855 Sandy Caruso

    Did anyone take away her shovel. The whole she dug is really, REALLY deep.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kelley-Eidem/1076776653 Kelley Eidem

    That was a historic drubbing. Perhaps a world record. Somebody get Andrea’s some band-aids!

  • Anonymous

    She’s a hack.  She has ZERO integrity.  She really should turn in whatever reporter credential she has.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kelley-Eidem/1076776653 Kelley Eidem

    She probably looks at him and sees an endless supply of shoes that she can buy.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MPHKUHK5P3M4TMR6OYPJSKRJZE Dirk Bold

    Watching here stutter step trying to decide which way to go was hilarious. It made my day!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kelley-Eidem/1076776653 Kelley Eidem

    Gee, Taito, why didn’t you subtract the millions who have lost their jobs from the people who were newly hired? Was it because it equals a negative number? 

    BTW, adding 4 million jobs doesn’t keep up with population growth, and many of those jobs are either part time or temporary.

    On top of that, when the census was being conducted by private contractors, the employees were hired and fired and then rehired on a daily basis, to falsify real new employment.

  • Joshua Brown

    Obamba is the DEBILL!  He thinks he can institute a policy of Droit du seigneur, allowing him and his socialist cronies to take the virginity of his serfs’ maiden daughters?  He’s a CIA PLANT from a secret colony on the dark side of the moon!  He’s going to KILL US ALL with his Martian death rays!  Dear GOD!  How have we let this happen?  May our children forgive us!

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, that’s a lie, just like the unemployment numbers are rigged (people stop looking for jobs and that’s called a reduction in unemployment). What’s your source for that lie? 

  • Galantrogue

    Smokin’ dope and snortin’ coke in his teens burnt out Obama’s brain. He lies to our faces and wants us to eat those lies like candy. The Obama-care health care tax will be hitting the middle class the hardest. Obama (not Romney) is the one who “outsourced” $28 Billion of grant money squandered to create energy jobs overseas, but then let tens of thousands of good, high-paying energy jobs here go by blocking the Keystone pipeline and oil leases on Govt. land and the gulf of Mexico. Then gave South America money to drill deep water wells there. Obama wasted $500 million on his political friends at the failed Solyndra company and added over a $1 trillion to the national debt to achieve 8.2% unemployment. It’s really closer to 14%, but that false unemployment number is just another lie he tells.   
    He is back on the class warfare bandwagon and working on a race war pitting blacks and hispanic’s against the white “fatcat’s”. He wants to tax the job creator’s out of the country and have everyone left be totally dependent on the government and him. The country can’t afford four more years of Obama. The jury is still out on if we could afford the first four years as it looks like we are headed for another deep reccesion before the last one is over.

  • Anonymous

    Sununu was wonderful.  Intelligent and articulate.  Thank you to him for speaking out with the correct information. He is a true patriot.  Mitchell was obviously in over her head and had no true grasp of the subject other than the lies and propaganda she’s been fed.  Does she carry any credibility anymore?  Bumbling, stumbling and trying to promote the untruth doesn’t do it.

  • Anonymous

    Why doesn’t Andrea just say “paid for by the democratic party, which is solely responsible
    for her message”. John Sununu is not a reporter, he is openly a Republican. She is supposed to be neutral.

  • Anonymous

     And, didn’t he take huge “contributions for his run for the presidency” before they went bankrupt? Scam, scam, scam.

  • http://www.facebook.com/roger.delaney2 Roger DeLaney

    This is the last time he will be on msnbc.  She looked stupid

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SRYTEBFK5TGRSFWDLKCZYRMHYE Ron

    Why can a supposed “independent journalist” devote an entire interview trying to sell the Obama/Democrat party line ,even in the face of specific facts contrary to the false and misleading “representation” of a corrupt and completely dishonest administration?  How many ignorant “swooners” for Obama are still clinging to the HOPE that their annointed one is somehow really right?  How many wrong things can one man do and still have followers?

  • Anonymous

    Obama isn’t the only one that doesn’t understand as evidenced by this total moronic woman – like every other liberal rat.  Surprised she didn’t swallow her freaking lying tongue!

  • SoThere

    Live Free or Die!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SRYTEBFK5TGRSFWDLKCZYRMHYE Ron

    I would hasten to point out that EVERYONE’S personal banking accounts are “secret” in that they are not normally published in the newspapers.  Are yours?  The guy simply takes his financial advisors suggestion to place any monies he has in safe accounts which provide him witht the highest rate of interest , in specific accordance with US law.  Millions of Americans and other nationalities have money in “offshore” banks, LEGALLY.  There is nothing to see here, folks.  Move on along!

  • SoThere

    No one at MSNBC is a “supposed independent journalist” Ron.  MSNBC is part of the Liberal Progressive Democrat party. 

    They excel in telling lies and never apologize when they get caught doing it.  The good thing is that they only have 12 viewers.

  • Anonymous

    Andrea, wow! Such an embarassment.  Ignorance and the lack of intergrity all in one segment.

  • http://www.facebook.com/beverly.lacy.5 Beverly Lacy

    It was our money he sent overseas. NOT HIS. Ours. American taxpayer dollars. I for one am sick of all Government spending that has nothing to do with the American economy. Green Jobs be damned. Lets help the American taxpayer and American businesses that create jobs for other taxpaying American citizens. Just sayin’

  • Anonymous

    There is no way I could have said it better. It is so amusing when a idiot confronts someone who is educated & is unable to sell a total stupid idea & is proven to be so lacking in intelligence.

  • Anonymous

    I’m glad to see you are still commenting and still have that great insight about what is REALLY happening all around the political spectrum. I have been really busy and sidetracted and time seem to be going by Sooo fast lately. I am stll praying for this country and hope that America wakes up to what is rapidly approaching,,,,the election. I think that this is the VERY last chance for this country to get back to the great country we grew up in. This (so called) president has used class warfare to divide this country more than ANY other president in my lifetime. Frustration seems to the feeling of the whole society nowadays and e must get back to basics and get back to helping our neighbors and each other. I grew up in a city where we didn’t even lock our doors when no-one was home. We looked afterr each other and cared. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED? I know that this administration wants a welfare society so that they can basically run your life because you are dependant on them. If we reelect obama, we deserve what we get, I won’t have to worry about it much more but I do feel sorry for the generation coming up through the ranks. 
    GOOD LUCK AMERICA!  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OXEUPLQP5N3NWO72YU6KUTFHFA Vern

    If Obama and the Dems didn’t tax our money so high the rich wouldn’t send their money overseas. Obama had rather give American jobs to the illegals here in the USA, that way
    he can complain about what Romney did, and get lots of folks who will vote for him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Firth/100003132306107 Richard Firth

    Remember, it’s not MSNBC it’s MSN BS.   Interesting the libbies say that Fox news is a joke.   Of course, Fox is #1 in cable whereas CNN is only #2 because MSN BS is #3, and a distant 3 at that.   

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Firth/100003132306107 Richard Firth

     Good comment, liked.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Firth/100003132306107 Richard Firth

    Sununu kills Mitchell.    She’s dumbstruck by his retort.  Awesome.  About time.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SRYTEBFK5TGRSFWDLKCZYRMHYE Ron

    I was raised in thr rural South in the 40′s and 50′s and saw how the Democrats controlled everything including the formerly “freed” slaves descendants.  Blacks were made to sit in the back of the bus but whites were prohibited from sitting the back.  Blacks were made to sit in neighborhood theater balconies and whites were prohibited from sitting there.  Segregation was not all against blacks.  Whites complaining against segregation was a REAL no-no.  Ever heard the term “nigger-lover”?  Certain self-destruction before the civil rights movement (and even afterwards).  The KKK did not just control blacks. ALL KKK members were Democrats!  Most Southern Democrats voted against the civil rights legislation and MLK,Jr. was a Republican..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7PSIFBIRLQS642TRAJUTJUEPBA Jerry

    here’s the question someone should ask Obama.  How many people does the average middle class and, or, poor person employ?  I’d love to hear the liar and chief spin that one.

  • Anonymous

    The Governor spoke the truth and Mitchell was dumbfounded. She kept trying to get him to say something or to agree with her. He would have none of it and it put a smile on my face. I just wish all of America could hear this interview.

  • Sunshine Kid

    Well, give the lady credit in that she did not resort to name calling and denigration that is so popular with the left!

  • http://www.facebook.com/mericus.faartist Mericus FAartist

    well by the same logic Andrea is using she is also responsible for Bill Ayers blowing up PG&E towers in California and premeditated murder of a UNION MEMBER POLICE officer in San Fransisco, never mind that someone else pulled the trigger, simply because she works for an administration that Ayers does as well. I’ll create a sign and picket msnbc offices in San Diego.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AJZ3WRB24SQVFCFQYWD2SYHWYM snibbles

    giggle

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Ludewig/681922153 Wayne Ludewig

    That was so much fun to watch!

  • http://www.facebook.com/christellaneswasey Christel Lane Swasey

    Hilarious.  This made me giggle.

  • Anonymous

    WHAT AN IDIOT. HOW CAN SHE BE TAKEN SERIOSLY

  • Anonymous

    John Sununu just made a fool out of Audrea Mitchell, in which it wasn’t very hard to do.

  • oregonpapa

    Sure … they never leave their comfort zone. I remember one Hollywood liberal saying after Bush won the election: “But how could Bush have won? I mean everyone I know voted for Kerry!” 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2JZA3WFVXXGWXQFNKJXE6PCLLU CM

    Andrea Mitchell….another liberal airhead. No facts, just fluff. I hope Obama loses in a landslide.

  • oregonpapa

    Man ‘O man … talk about a talking head getting her assets handed to her!

  • Anonymous

    Andrea Mitchell is another reason I stopped watching
    MSNBC.  She tries to sensationalize non-truths.
    There is no honor left in her reporting.

  • Anonymous

    Give it up already.

  • Anonymous

    John Sununu, my new hero!  Its fun to watch liberals do a bad job of spinning an untruth.  Debbie Wasserman Schultz is another one!

  • Anonymous

    Funny(pathetic) how we all just assumed he was the GREAT KNOWER.

  • Anonymous

    When I watch any and all women speaking for the left………… have you notice their facial expressions  are not consistence with what they are saying?   

  • http://twitter.com/varpstr Sierra Varptr

    Obama is awful, sliming millions of Americans, by trading guhns for druhgs, by encouraging criminal crossing of the border, by not enforcing laws, by keeping hundreds of thousands of men deployed, by spending money on lie after lie (pork barrel after pork barrel), by not protecting key raw material reserves, by building mindless bureaucracy, by not supporting state law enforcement, by not licensing green power: solar, wind, and geothermal plants, pipelines, and offshore drilling, and by standing in the way of legal voting..pfftht!..The consequences are really, really bad: prostitution, theft, criminal activity, lost jobs, voter fraud and fixed elections (and all those stupid studies saying otherwise don’t matter because you are defrauding the vote by simple DEFINITION!!!), bankrupt cities, failing production due to high cost and unavailable educated manpower, abominable educations, broken social safety nets, full prisons, skyrocketing federal debt, inability to fix infrastructure problems, inability to build business, inability to do the simple things like fix a leaking basement (the men are overseas or trapped into minimum wage slavery or mind numbing bureaucracy).   Obama fears profit, fears monetary responsibility even within the govt.  Example, “socialized high speed rail is good”, but the playing field is madly skewed, no taxes on the govt. right-of-ways, no million dollar miles, no massive property taxes like the other train companies face, no per car, per traveled mile, or per person taxes, no taxes on the train stations (unless you are so unfortunate as to own part of the “official govt. rail office”), no taxes on profits or on a thousand other things. And not one finger, not one dime, not one turn of the Obama heartless screw to save a single roadway, not one right-of-way anywhere saved despite a country that bled and now bleeds deeply and long to develop those roads. So I end as I began: “Obama is awful, sliming  millions of Americans”, a real piece of work, a tosser, a wanker, all those bad words you learned as a child..  But the really sad part, there are thousand more just like him drinking the kool-aide, believing in the “free stuff” of socialism, what a bunch of fools.  If you aren’t going to read the history book, let me hit you in the head with it a couple of times.

  • Anonymous

    Greenspam is the one who gets all the interest through FedResBk, from the stimulus money B0 borrowed from him, That is a conflict of interest, her defending B0 her source of income through the fed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PGTMUV2LLDK65NRNPMK6VDPBX4 Catherine E

    Sununu mopped the floor with her.  Small wonder nobody watches MSNBC 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KVFGYBYSUW45LYGVGJOUAM6VNI Maurizme

    You know, I loved this interview – It is impossible to defend a lie when the person you’re sparring with it armed to the teeth with the truth.  I wish more like Sonumu would speak up!!  When you know the truth and you’re in a position of power, use it like a sword and cut through the lies.

  • Anonymous

    Those media outlets can thank Obama for putting them out of business….. just goes to show… Obama loses jobs for even his media darlings…. can’t they feel the love??? The chills going up and down their legs, the oohs and aws when Obama speaks…. Sorry to say, their careers are over.

  • Anonymous

    Stumbling bumbling idiots that somebody got to and told them to support the President or else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • ginger

    Because she has no facts…just wants to spit her lies…she doesn’t even know ANY of the facts…she just knows lies and the Dem Marxists spew.

  • Anonymous

    He was great!  The smugness of AM  and the liberal media is nauseating.  He should be Romney’s running mate, knows his facts well.

  • Anonymous

    I should have suspected to see conspiracy theorists on a Glen Beck site. You can’t judge numbers based on day one, you start 12 months into it, so their policies have at least had a chance to be implemented and you go a year after they leave office, because that’s still their budget and policies in place. Do you really think that 9 days after Obama took office, that his policies were being implemented already and having an effect on the largest economy of the world, as we lost 750K jobs in Feb of 2009. The numbers starting one year into each president’s term

    If you use the one-year-into-the-term yardstick, the numbers don’t change dramatically — except for Obama and his predecessor. Here’s the same breakdown, again in descending order by net jobs gained or lost:
    1. Ronald Reagan +18,594,000 +8.1 percent of population
    2. Bill Clinton +18,117,000 +7.0 percent of population
    3. Lyndon B. Johnson +11,959,000 +6.3 percent of population
    4. Harry Truman +8,559,000 +6.1 percent of population
    5. Gerald Ford +7,441,000 +3.5 percent of population
    6. Richard Nixon +5,978,000 +2.9 percent of population
    7. Jimmy Carter +5,962,000 +2.7 percent of population
    8. Dwight Eisenhower +5,424,000 +3.4 percent of population
    9. John F. Kennedy +4,326,000 +2.4 percent of population
    10. George H.W. Bush +3,323,000 +1.3 percent of population
    11. Barack Obama +2,619,000 +0.9 percent of population
    12. George W. Bush - 1,310,000 - 0.5 percent of population

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone find it curious that Romney a successful, prosoperous business man is degraded….. and Obama a welfare monger, liar, community organizer, socialist, incompetent on so many levels thinks all people should be poor, dependent slobs????

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    …This is definitely one of the best examples ever of how slavishly sycophantic the Left Stream Press is in cheerleading for Obama.
     
    I didn’t notice any objectivity in Mitchell stumbling attempt to recover, but i don’t think the Left Stream is all that enamored with the idea of being objective.
     
    Governor Sununu’s preparation and performance was excellent and most entertaining.

  • Anonymous

    Andrea Mitchell is a left wing, SOCIALIST S!ut…
    She’s nothing but a campaigner for that Moronic PUNK in the whitehouse that you liberal, white- guilt-driven DROOLERS helped elect…

  • http://www.facebook.com/barbaugh Beryl Bouknight Arbaugh

    She is so out of it trying to cover for Obama—

  • Anonymous

    This s!ut gets her stupidity very honestly… she’s married to Al Hunt, a “tingle-up-the-leg” kind of liberal MORON that Chris Matthews exemplifies…
    TO working democrats:  Aren’t you PROUD of that dumbsh!t you elected ??

  • http://twitter.com/BJSM Becky

    Sadly, Andrea Mitchell performs like the White House Call-Girl (I deliberately softened my words).

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000587760218 Ken Russell

    This is a perfect example of the trouble Obama is going to have running for the presidential office again. He has no record that he wants to discuss because it’s all bad! All of it, the unemployed, the failing dollar, his stimulus packages, fast and furious, the liar Holder, the list goes on and on.
    All this,,, and Obama is an “Illegal Immigrant!” who isn’t even qualified to be “President” ot the USA!!!  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3M55VDSFF3SUPJALADU5N22KE TT

    That is a tell tell sign of where things stand in our american country and society..and it is frankly really SCARY…don’t you think? 

    Rhetoric like this would have been unfathomable 10 years ago..it is sad the deterioration in self worth and American pride that we are suffering. And HRH BHO is the epitome..and its most fervent cheerleader. So so so so sad.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3M55VDSFF3SUPJALADU5N22KE TT

    Andrea Mitchell needs to find some self respect..the spin she tries  to put on the story is truly and astonishingly: “Pathetic”

  • Anonymous

    The  leftwing media is like a washing machine that’s stuck on spin cycle, it has washed out the truth and can’t stop spinning. The machine is broke and the only way to stop it, is to unplug it.

    Truth can be defended, lies can’t.

  • sharinite

     Good One Rolandd1!!

  • sharinite

     Gee, you would have to ethics and morals to find your self respect…Andrea lost hers decades ago, that’s why she is on MSNBC!

  • Anonymous

    I think I just heard Saul Alinsky turning over in his grave!

  • Anonymous

    I must say that I was very impressed with John Sununu and the clarity and conviction with which he presented the facts. I had no idea he was that good. We need him to step out more frequently to represent the conservative message.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2CY7V3743RRO7MJTI5NROJHLLQ Ken

    How can MSNBC even have the few viewers they have? This is the most blatant bias I’ve seen of any reporter. She is actually desperate to sustain her stand in spite of the evidence against her.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Oh how I hope someone has a camera handy to catch history should Obama lose, and lose bad in November. The look of utter shock on his face should be worth it.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Its not much of an insight into events or such; if anyone wants to have a fairly good idea of what is going on, especially as most of the US Media is in league with the administration, just look into the other media sources availible around the world at the bottom of Drudge Report.

    Look for two or three stories of the same topic, and see where the common ground is found at, there the truth can be found in the majority of cases.

    Also, check out the radio program podcasts of “Voice to America,” as they are on the ballgame with their Sunday programs and often weeks or months ahead of everyone else.

    They were the ones who tipped off the world on the Mali Rebellions before most of the world knew or cared.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    More likely she was dancing due to her tushie being on fire from all the lies and spin.

  • Anonymous

    How refreshing to see a liberal get her just dues.  Sure wish someone would go against that tubby Maddow!!!!  MSNBC ought to be ashamed of themselves!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LOXDWETWUMSZSZGKZP2PMAS2XY Guy

    You would think her husband, Mr. Greenspan, would at least set her straight on the facts!

  • http://twitter.com/Sargonarhes S. E. Roberts

    MSNBC going out of business? Not a chance, they’re banking on Obama making it a mandate for people to watch MSNBC or pay a tax / fine.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CY5BTD5KKBGL52NSCWS357SIJE Will Pardon

    All of the marxist propaganda of the communist news networks of the cmrade 0bummer regime cannot defend the indefensible.  THe progressive loonies are looking more pathetic every day.

  • Anonymous

    LOL

  • Anonymous

    John Sununu – awesome takeover of the interview and I loved watching Mitchell stumbling over what to say.  Good job Governor.

  • Anonymous

    One other thing about Mitchell – which in my view makes her a person on the dark side, so to speak – while she squirms during the interview, one can see she is searching for the words to spin the truth – which clearly means she KNOWS the truth and is making a conscious effort to lie.  At least when a true believer lies, you can tell they believe the lies – Mitchell is lower than that, she is facilitating the lies willingly.

  • http://twitter.com/Snuffy_Joe Joe Snuffy

    EXCELLENT SLAM DUNK on MSNBC.  We need to see more of this.  The Socialists and Liberals (yes, they are different) need to be taken to school and this was an excellent start of that learning process. 

    Great job.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Sadly there are many who still insist that her lies, like the administrations rants and lies, are the truth. I have received a string of responses to a post in a similiar article where the press still tried to call Romney to task; and when I gave sources and articles in reference, the responses were scathing.

    Let the truth shine for it has no agenda.
    The truth just is.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/LETHWPQ3HT257455VXYCNPUYXA the YELLA BRICK

    30 ROCK, here we come !

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/LETHWPQ3HT257455VXYCNPUYXA the YELLA BRICK

     IT is so OBVIOUS that she is BIASED towards ‘Zero’.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GR2F7ZHJRA2AVVT7CXGNBNXLY4 Dorris P

    I know we have some very stupid people out there that believe every thing they hear off off ,MSNBC,ABC, NBC etc, But please reassure me they are catching on to the lies and are researching more for the truth!!!!

    Now that the Black Pastors are having  their perschners sign a coalition not to vote for Barack.this just might let the black people know Barack is NOT for their best Interest.
    His Name is Rev. William Owens.Pastor Manning is Another ,Rev Wright has had a different look at Barack.and he didn’t speak kindly of him. O how things change.

    A Coalition of African American pastors are calling on Blacks to BOYCOTT President Barack Obama, and to sign a petition demanding that the administration withdraw support for Gay Marriage.
    The Title to the Article reads”Black Pastors Group:” Pride in Obama Has Turned to Shame”
    It states Barack is leading the country down an immoral path.( which we all know)

    Newsmax ,wrote the story.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-R-Fonseca/1551203307 John R. Fonseca

    The only way to defend lies is with even bigger lies.  Truth to these people is like Raid to cockroaches…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=734547794 Sier Puno Fernandez

    Don’t forget that Obama gave money to Brazil for offshore “oil” drlling and Obama even told Brazil’s President that US will be its first customer for oil.  But he would not allow that here in the US which would create JOBS!!!!!!!  Hello Keystone pipeline!  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PXJB6QBEWHLI76BC6SGB5VAIF4 Mally

    Andrea Mitchell is a complete moron. It was fun to see her being laughed at. Maybe that should be our strategy – everytime they lie laugh in their faces. Kudos to Governor Sununu.

  • Anonymous

    DON”T FORGET, Obama gave US taxpayer’s money to Brazil for offshore “oil” drilling, and even told Brazil’s President that US will be its first customer.  BUT, does not allow oil drilling here in the US, which would create thousands of JOBS!!!  THAT would help our ECONOMY!!!  Example:  KEYSTONE Pipeline!!!  (which taxpayers would not have to pay for, but would even create JOBS!!!)

  • Anonymous

    That was awesome!  Wish more conservative leaders would come out swinging to squash the lies and propoganda!  I’m sick of the niceties.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joan-Peters/1527912787 Joan Peters

    Andrea is an idiot!  Hey Andrea, Facts are stubborn things, aren’t they!  I’ve seen whirling dervishers who don’t put so much effort into spinning!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IMUKBQWTA2ANJOEZKYSDWC3SBA iamsure

    Too bad no one watches the network.

  • Hologram5

    Their SpinJitsu is very strong.  I cannot compete with their LungFu.  I am humbled…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKTKHFPJKGUSNNTTQLMH4O3RQI paul

    wow Sununu absolutely crushed this pretender…. wow wow wow !!! If I were a democrat.. Thank the Lord I’m not… I would be embarrassed by the news coverage from the left and the President’s lack of understanding how our economy works. It’s time for the democrats to put aside their undying loyalty to this usurper and take care of our country.. do what you were elected to do.. and it’s time for the people to stand up seriously and get noticed and tell the representative that you elected to do your jobs… Obama is bad for this country, even if he were a conservative, he would still be bad for this country.. is a sick person and does have some serious mental issues… you go Sununu … well done

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LCYYG3OYXRFZFBE7LYZEZC4IN4 James

    Oh, he kick her arse… dah, dah, dah, dah…. She sucks…

  • greywolfrs

    Maybe Romney should start a website to combat the lies told about him. They can even put in a section for people to “report” those lies. Wait a minute, where have I heard that before?

  • Anonymous

    Nice, really enjoyed the interview. Sununu’s laughter was in infectious. Mitchell only needs an Obama campaign volunteer pin on her lapel to be complete. Her logic in defense of democratic defections on Obama’s tax proposals is priceless. It is because they are in tight reelection campaigns, duh!  They are finally being held responsible to their constituents, what a novel idea! What a glaring example of democratic immorality, yes, it is immoral, to claim it is fine to spread lies because it works. Liberal Progressives have always been about the ends, any means is justifiable, including the loss of Liberty, under the guise of freedom from want. The problem is: their end goals are totalitarian control of society.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lawrence.e.wright Lawrence E. Wright

    Wow, this should be used as a campaign ad for Romney.

  • Anonymous

    Sununu is the greatest. He wiped the floor with that dunce Andrea Mitchell. He should be Romey’s #1 surrogate.

  • Anonymous

    GLENN PLEASE COME BACK TO TELEVISION!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NUKSO5H4PU2S4PMH7XDMMQMYLQ Joe Cantone

    how can she call herself a journalist? She should be wearing an Obama 2012 T-Shirt. Anyway, Sununu took her to school.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6AFLZGRNOSH3FN7J4RU34XOSZM john

    i doubt that that andrea evr hasa beerwith conservatives.of course, sh probably doesn’t drink beer

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6AFLZGRNOSH3FN7J4RU34XOSZM john

    naturally. everyone they know are namby-pamby pinko liberals

  • Anonymous

    they talk abot outsourcing, what about the flow of cheap labor allowed to walk into this country everday.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6G3MXGTD4XAJRKK4OG743LC7H4 dmcrazyskrz

    Mr. Greenspan was Chairman/Pres of the FRB during the Bush/Clinton years. The Obama administration claims this financial crisis was created by the Bush Administration. If the FRB is responsible for overlooking the health of our banking system, does that mean that this national/global financial mess was created under the Greenspan FRB administration?

  • Gary Willard

    Epic slap-down! She couldn’t come up with anything substantive to back up O-Blame-a.

  • Anonymous

    Anybody that watches MSNBC with a straight face is a complete moron (please, no offense to any morons who happen to be reading this). That channel has nothing going for it… absolutely nothing. 

  • Anonymous

    Many people were commenting about Andrea Mitchell’s attempts to spin Obama’s lies, and it really was funny to see her sputtering and spinning and grasping for an explanation.  Juan Williams was also under Sununu’s fact finding police on Sean Hannity’s show.  This is what happens when you have built your policies on lies and falsehoods, eventually the regime will crumble!

  • Anonymous

    The American people are not giving up, even if we are left with nothing but our lives, our families, and the clothes on our backs, we are going to stick this out and fight the Dictatorship!

  • Anonymous

    When will someone make the add that speaks the truth?  Chairman “O” s  fist state of the union address……..  the clip where one of our represenitives call out LIER!!! that says it all……..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rebecca-Gramling/100000407474266 Rebecca Gramling

    This woman’s husband, Alan Greenspan, had far more to do with the economic collapse in 2007 than George Bush. She will do or say anything to keep ‘spinning’ the Democratic narrative away from the economy!

  • Anonymous

    Kudos to Gov. Sununu. OMG Andrea…give it up.  You sounded definitely, beyond a reasonable doubt, very unprepared with no intelligent comebacks for a man well prepared.  President Obama is a man who lies, lies, lies!  He works outside the ‘law’ , does whatever he needs to do to get what he wants and his actions and  programs are killing us. You and all others like you are going to be pulled down by this man. When will you and other like you ever realize that?  Obama/his accusations and those that defend him are becoming more ridiculous by the day. Check out the new change to the Reform Welfare Act of 1966.  A slap in the face to President Clinton and a bi-partisan Congress.  Maybe this will help more in Congress to put a stop to this nonsense!

  • Sandie

    Public sector jobs are down because of the economy (cutbacks), not because of anything good Obama has done. Obama has added federal government jobs with his programs..

  • Sandie

     Those were jobs that were saved or imagined.

  • Sandie

    That Think Progress site is one of the biggest left wingnut spin sites. I have never fou nd anything here that wasn’t spin, deception or outright lies.

  • Anonymous

    This is kind of off the subject, but then again it probably makes a good point in what the liberals are doing. I joined twitter and have been on it for maybe two days. I added Mitt Romney to the people I follow and witnessed all these progressives making all these false accustaions about him in a very aggressive, and inslting manner. I decided to respond to each tweet with a question like, “Why would Obama hire Van Jones, a devout communist as his Green Czar? or I would say, “No one read Obamacare, not even one representative, so why did anyone vote for it?” After about twenty or so tweets they suspended my account. So, it was obvious to me that “Twitter” allows progressives to trash Mitt Romney with lies and insults and then when you call them on it, they suspend your account. I was laughing so hard tears came to my eyes because I could see those progressives hopping mad that a conservative would dare enter their realm and pitch the truth.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, this is what happens when you get a conservative who knows the facts with a progressive trying to drum up false accustions. Amazing, a news agency should be seeking out the truth, but Andrea is desperately trying to spin the truth. .

  • Anonymous

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/feb/15/john-boehner/john-boehner-says-200000-new-federal-jobs-have-spr/ he has added around 100K federal jobs over 3 years, Bush added over a million people in 8 years.

  • Anonymous

    Did you just pull that out of your ass? the jobs saved were by the stimulus which was 2-3 million jobs according to the CBO, which prevented us from going to 15% unemployment. The new jobs are new jobs being created as the economy gets better, mostly through small businesses.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Lobosco/661521161 Joseph Lobosco

     Obama is a liar and chief.I don’t watch NBC news or MSNBC.

  • Sandie

    Then you agree: as I stated, #1. Public sector jobs are down because of the economy (cutbacks), not because of anything good Obama has done. [decrease in public sector jobs is largely a result of shrinking state governments.] and that #2 Obama has added federal government jobs with his programs. During the Bush Administration Fed employees increased because of the Military, Homeland Security, and the VA, which are still there under Obama, so that issue is not black and white as to assigning none of it to Obama. He didn’t add them, but he is keeping them. Depending on how one presents it, it makes a different impression, doesn’t it? Obama plans to add even more for Obamacare and the IRS. Consider also that hiring of Census workers began in Nov 2008 under Bush, but they were all laid off in 2010 under Obama.

    Your link shows, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics overall rise in federal employees between January 2009 and January 2011 alone (only 2 of Obama’s 3 1/2 yrs) without counting U.S. Postal Service workers was 140,800. According to other sources, from December 2008 to January 2011 there was an increase of 153,000 federal, non-postal jobs. According to another source 190,000 fed jobs when looking at data going beyond Jan 2011. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2011/dec/15/ron-johnson/sen-ron-johnson-says-obama-has-increased-federal-w/ which FedScope pretty much bears out. http://www.fedscope.opm.gov

    Your link does not support your statement about Bush adding 1 million Fed jobs – maybe if you round of the hundreds of thousands to millions.

  • Sandie

    Since you can’t keep a civil tone, I will be curt:
    The jobs are speculative ESTIMATRES of SAVED or CREATED. Ergo my statement “Those were jobs that were saved or imagined.”

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/cbo-jobs-created-and-saved-stimulus-cost-minimum-average-228055-each CBO later estimated 0.4 million and 2.4 million jobs http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3567
    Many created jobs went out of the USA. Not all jobs were private sector. All cost on average between $250,000 and $400,000+ each depending on how many one believes were saved or created …. imagined.

    The CBO is not calculating actual jobs created. Rather, it simply uses economic models which purport to predict how many jobs are created, and how much economic growth is generated, for each dollar of government spending.

    These are not real numbers, but you would not know it from the headlines you see in the media, or hear Buffoon Biden crow about.

    The CBO does not even attempt, in its full report, to compare how the economy would have performed in the absence of the Stimulus Plan.

    Although CBO has examined data on output and employment during the period since ARRA’s enactment, those data are not as helpful in determining ARRA’s economic effects as might be supposed because isolating the effects would require knowing what path the economy would have taken in the absence of the law. Many economists believe it would recover in spite of the stimulus.

  • SoThere

    Sandie, Obama is the king of outsourcing jobs and he does it with taxpayers money. Talk about stimulus.

  • Sandie

    As the song says, “You got it, Toyota”. Apparently Taito7 doesn’t have a firm grasp on reality. That’s ok, maybe he will learn to stop spouting the left wing talking points and do some real research instead of assuming the broadly painted categories the left are so apt at doing so the real facts have a chance of showing face.

  • Sandie

    That’s what I was saying in an earlier post before the one you are replying to.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you verra much! Repost often and everywhere!

  • Anonymous

    The comparison is obvious, if X number of jobs were saved by the stimulus, than that’s the amount of jobs that wouldn’t have been saved with out it. And although each of those jobs comes with a high cost, the way you calculate it is off. Because you can’t say we created a $40K job by spending $250K, it’s not a direct math equation. We also got infrastructure projects completed and the money those people received working on those jobs was spent at local stores to keep those open, etc… as well as some of it being returned as tax dollars. And the stores they saved, and jobs created are continuing to strengthen the economy today. Imagined is not the correct term, but more of just a talking point. It is true that you can’t put a hard number on it, but the CBO is a non partisan group, and we should take their numbers not to be spin.

  • Anonymous

    I believe the CBO states that the Health Reform Law will actually keep 100 Billion dollars off the federal budget over the first 10 years. Bush added 900K federal jobs in his first 4 years. http://www.salon.com/2012/05/04/bush_vs_obama_jobs/ And we finally got to a positive number even if you are counting from Obama’s first day in office in the second quarter this year, however since 2 million jobs were lost in the first quarter of 2009, you can see that number would have been much larger with out the burden Bush left him and the country. Romney’s economic plans are the exact same as Bush’s plans, and we saw how that worked out for us.

  • Sandie

    One can neither state as fact that there were a certain number of jobs (they were guessed at), nor that they can be solely contributed to the stimulus, nor that there wouldn’t be any save for the stimulus. Therefore there is no comparison, correlation, or logic to the assumption:… “if X number of jobs were saved by the stimulus, than that’s the amount of jobs that wouldn’t have been saved with out it.” That renders your claim that the “comparison is obvious” false. Then turn around and claim that “….you can’t say we created a $40K job by spending $250K, it’s not a direct math equation.” You contradict your own faulty logic as it suits you..

    Infrastructure projects: Obama admitted they were not shovel ready and most still aren’t. Can you provide what infrastructure jobs you are referring to? Do you realize that once an infrastructure job is completed, the workers from those projects are no longer employed?

    The CBO is supposed to be non partisan, but it also has no facts or accurate data to work with. They created (imagination talents) a model using faulty assumptions, not data. I don’t know if you recall a while back there was controversy about reporting from many states on their double counting of jobs, and sometimes triple counting? The counts were further corrupted because a great number of jobs had nothing to do with stimulus spending. These are the garbage ‘statistics’ the CBO had to deal with. When the CBO said at one point that the number of jobs was 1.7 million to 2.7 million, that is outrageous! 2.7 is almost 59% higher than 1.7 million. If you take the average (2.2 million), you would have a deviation of (+-) .5 million, or a deviation of almost 23% where one would expect a standard deviation of maybe 5% ! That is outrageous! What’s the saying? Garbage in garbage out? That is why I say they were saved or imagined. This doesn’t take into account the jobs that were created abroad instead of here, which makes the matter far worse!

  • Sandie

    The CBO was presented only a part of the plan to score, it didn’t score the total effect as they were not asked to. Since that time Economists have stated how much worse the deficit will become with Obamacare. In 2010, the CBO projected it would be $933 billion for 2010 to 2019. These numbers were based on the government collecting ten years of taxes and providing only six years of benefits. How creative and misleading is that?

    CBO officials now believe the first ten years will cost Americans at least $1.5 trillion and will add another $700 billion to the deficit. [There goes the original claim/estimate that we would save 100 Billion.]

    The chief Medicare actuary, Richard Foster, estimates PPACA will increase overall health care spending from 17 percent of the economy to 21 percent by 2020. Foster also calculates that insurance premiums will increase by $2,100 per year on average because of PPACA. One of the architects of the law, Jonathan Gruber (an M.I.T. economist), recently stated that the law will “dramatically increase” insurance premiums.

    The second ten years of the law, from 2020 to 2029, will be even worse. There will then be ten years of taxes collected to pay for a full ten years of benefits. There will be no four-year revenue buffer by then. Cost estimates for the second and subsequent ten year periods run as high as $2.5 to $ 3 trillion and will add untold billions to the national deficit. [So much for holding the cost of health care down, it is now clear that it will cost more and put the country further in debt.]

    A recent national survey says that 50 percent of small business employers and 30 percent of large employers will definitely drop or would consider dropping employee health benefits. The CBO now estimates that at least 14 million Americans will lose their employer-provided health insurance.

    Proponents of the PPACA guaranteed the law would cover health insurance for every American. Estimates now predict that at least 20 million people will remain uninsured.

    So much for the CBO and their original estimates.

    http://www.washingtonpolicy.org/publications/opinion/federal-health-care-reform-two-year-report-card

    Don’t give a link to a known left wing spinmeister site and expect people to give it credence. You haven’t added anything on the “jobs” topic that is of any value.

    As for Romney’s economic plans, you can’t know what they are unless he confides in you as he hasn’t delineated nor clarified them yet. To assume they are the same as Bush’s is folly.

    I think this horse has been beaten sufficiently don’t you? Either way I am finished with it.

  • Anonymous

    when Romney’s top advisers were asked if his economic plans were the same as Bush’s on a conference call, they stated that they were the basically the same in theory. Now, whether or not that’s true, he has to hire some smarter people, because admitting that is not a good policy, whether it’s true or not.

  • Sandie

    Do you have a link to that quote?

  • Anonymous

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kDi72STXTM It was the RNC not Romney’s lady. 1:15 into it. by the way, don’t let this go to your head, but am very surprised that anyone on Beck’s site actually had anything intelligent to say or numbers to rely on when discussing anything. I am interested in seeing how the Affordable Care Act pans out. I know that spending the most money per capita and getting what was called the 37th best health care (but even if we moved up 15 spots from 2000 til now, which we probably haven’t) is not a good system, there had to be some kind of reform.

  • Sandie

    That was an RNC spokeswomans opinion: updated Bush. Don’t forget what did the damage – Fanny & Freddy, Barny Frank & Chris Dodd’s refusal to do anything about them though Bush and a couple of his people, McCain I think it was in particular, requested they do something to ward off what was eventually going to happen, the mortgage crisis. It was not Bush’s Economic Policies that caused the problems, it was the mortgage and banking fiasco that was not of his making. That ball started rolling during the Clinton Administration.

    The reason the US ended at 37th, even though ranked #1 in treatment and outcomes, and high in other areas, is that we were not socialized in our approach. Unfortunately with Obamacare, though we will get more points for the socialization approach, (very little as it is not totally universal – ie not everyone will be covered), we will begin to lose points in treatment, and outcomes as they will be restricted and delayed.

  • Sandie

    BTW, your ‘backhanded compliment’, ” don’t let this go to your head, but am very surprised that anyone on Beck’s site actually had anything intelligent to say or numbers to rely on when discussing anything.” makes obvious your snotty attitude and closed mindedness. Your insults don’t play with me.

  • Anonymous

    I read–wish I could find the article–that Barry was also in on the Fanny-Freddy-Frank-Dodd debacle. He had joined in filing a lawsuit against a bank in Chicago for not going along with overlooking the applicant’s inability to qualify. That was when he was ‘just’ a community organizer! He helped create the mess he ‘inherited’, hasn’t cleaned up the mess he helped create, refuses to doing anything about the mess and wants 4 more years to make more messes? No way!

  • Guest

    Sounds like we have a new recruit…

  • Sandie

    He and ACORN were hand in hand on suing banks who didn’t accept the strong-arm tactics. Typical Chicago thugs and extortionists.

  • Anonymous

    And he says he “inherited” this economy. Another one of the COOTUS’s lies.

  • Anonymous

    It was ranked number 37th because it averaged in all Americans, including those that only go for emergency room visits, which are super expensive, but not preventative care. Also our diets are some of the worst in the world, maybe not you particularly, but in general. If a party has control of both houses of congress and the executive branch for 6 of 8 years (and the Senate was split evenly the last 2, certainly not enough to over ride a veto) leading up to the crisis, you can’t blame that crisis on anyone else. It was the deregulation of the derivatives market, and the huge money that wall street was making in there that pushed congress to continue to deregulate the industry. When things that failed days earlier were being ranked AAA, obviously that’s at least a system that is faulty. You blaming Clinton for the 2008 collapse, is like blaming Jimmy Carter for the dot com crash. Letting poor people get affordable loans didn’t set off the 2008 crash, but the evaluation of those houses as worth 30% more every year and funky lending practices by professional bankers did.

  • Anonymous

    Who else had great ratings, huge crowds and wonderful public approval…
    coughlin
    McCarthy
    hitler
    stalin
    mao

    Well done glenn beck…
    you are quickly adding yourself to a great group of other evil assholes who did their best to hurt others in order profit or prosper.
    I can only hope that you will also find your power cut short long before he can hurt too many people!!!  All people need to do is continue to push the truth and get glenn fired from more jobs in the future!!!

  • SoThere

    Folks, strtlk is the face of the Vulgar left who spews his ignorant lies just like Obama does.
    Save america, Vote Conservative.

  • Sandie

    He inherited it from himself and his friends in their Democrat Congress the last 2 years of the Bush Admin. Bush tried to do something about the banking crisis before it happened but Barney, Chris and Maxine said there was nothing wrong, nothing broke, don’t fix it. It all started with the Clinton Admin appetizer of forcing banks to give home mortgages to people who couldn’t afford it, and their bundling… or should I say bungling.

  • Anonymous

    bundling and bungling…both are fitting. And yet the lemmings keep following da Dems to da sea…. From the first black president to the first 1/2 black president, lots a changes and lost hopes.

  • Sandie

    It ranked 37, as I said, because it was not socialized medicine – universal coverage. It had to do with coverage and access. The care, however was primo. What did our diets have to do with ranking>

    Sorry, you will have to show something there. The House & Senate were not split evenly the last 2 years, Dems had the votes. Clinton started with the mortgage lending to people who couldn’t afford it. Bush tried many times to get Congress to do something about the mess that was going to head our way if the coming banking problems were not dealt with, the Dems in Congress refused. I did not blame the debacle on Clinton. Go back and read again. I claimed it STARTED with him, and it indeed did! Poor people didn’t get affordable loans, they were given loans that were way over their heads. It had nothing to do with the valuation of their homes, they couldn’t afford their mortgages. As soon as the first couple years of low rates passed, and they were hit with higher payments, they were in trouble. Those loans were toxic from day one – a time bomb waiting to go off.They were sold under pressure, knowing it was going to be a disaster, then they were bundled and sold.

  • Anonymous

    The diets thing is more of a social commentary. I don’t care how good our health care is, if we eat big macs every day, we are going to have a heart attack. If he had both houses of Congress for the first 6 years, why couldn’t Bush get anything passed? The Democrats couldn’t stop him from doing anything the first 6 years. Regulations can be issued as executive orders, Bush had more of them than Obama his first 3 years, he/Cheney could have done something. http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm — this is the break down, the Republicans had 49 seats the Democrats had 50 seats and there was an independent in the Senate from 2007-2008, but Bernie Sanders sides mostly with the Democrats. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/business/economy/24panel.html?_r=2&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

  • Sandie

    In a discussion of jobs lost, created, saved, imagined etc, what was your agenda or point of starting the reply with “I believe the CBO states that the Health Reform Law will actually keep 100 Billion dollars off the federal budget over the first 10 years. “ Was it intended as a diversionary strawman?

  • Sandie

     Bush unemployment numbers were trending to 10% ????
    The seasonally adjusted unemployment rate, based on the American Housing Survey, started at 4.7% in January 2001, peaked at 6.2% in June 2003, and retreated to 4.6% in May 2006; And what were they when Bush left office?

  • Anonymous

    7.8% in January 2009 and losing 750K jobs per month, we lost 3 million jobs from Jan 1st or April 30th in 2009.

  • Sandie

    What was the point of your first link? It had nothing to do with [supporting] the statements it followed.

    Now, for your new strawman:
    Following the 2000 election, the U.S. Senate was split between 50 Democrat-held seats and 50 Republican-held seats while the Republicans had an extremely slim majority in the House of Representatives. May 24, 2001, liberal Republican Senator Jim Jeffords switched his party affiliation to become the only Independent senator and announced that he would caucus with the Democrats. Bush issued 291 EOs over 8 years, Obama issued 131 in just 3+ years. All Presidents have used the Executive Order or a form of the EO to command and operate the Federal Government. Some, like Obama, used the EO to push through laws when Congress would not pass them….. like Obama’s Amnesty, Green House Gas Regulations, Internet, Card Check etc., waiting for Congressional Recess to appoint Czars without Congressional approval because he knew they wouldn’t be approved. http://tancredoradio.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/obamachart2.png What regulations did Bush issue as Executive Orders to circumvent Congress? If he didn’t have the votes, he didn’t have the votes – he isn’t the socialist dictator Obama is. But this all has nothing to do with the subject being discussed.

    Look Taito, you have steered this discussion off course from the original comment. You have added new diversions and asides, strawman stuff. I don’t appreciate those tactics and will not partake in any more of your maneuvering. Know when to quit when you can’t cleanly win a point.

  • Sandie

    7.8 does not = 10

  • Anonymous

    can you honestly say that economic trends developed in the first 3.2 months of the Obama administration, had anything to do with his policies? 2009 was under Bush’s budget and still under Bush’s 2008 crash of escalating unemployment numbers til Nov of 2009 when it hit 10% and then finally saw positive numbers in March of 2010, 13 months after Obama took over.

  • Anonymous

    If we were losing 750K jobs a month in Jan, Feb, March and April, those can’t be put on Obama.

  • Guest

    But if you own a business, or are a president, you didn’t build that business, or that economic disaster. Someone else did it… You have to learn to apply the principles to both sides of the equation to pass Algebra 101.

  • Anonymous

    you are right that Bush/Cheney didn’t create these messes all by themselves. And if you listen to the whole speech, Obama is talking about roads and the internet, and marketplaces, etc… when he says ” you didn’t build that”

  • Guest

    Just so long as you apply it accordingly. When you start blame-storming you have to blamed everyone if no one built it on their own.

  • Sandie

    Did I say that? NO.

    Quoting you “…10% unemployment when Bush was in office,”

    My response was to what you said, not to what you are saying now.

  • Sandie

    I didn’t say anything of the kind.

  • Anonymous

    ok Breitbart, what’s the whole quote? It was trending towards or moving towards 10% unemployment when Bush was in office. Which apparently you have now agreed with.

  • Sandie

    Can the Breitbart BS. I only bothered to copy the pertinent part of your statement which was “10% unemployment when Bush was in office”. Accent WHEN BUSH WAS IN OFFICE. Point being that it never was 10% when Bush was in office, nor did it ever trend to 10% during his term. It trended AFTER he left.

  • Anonymous

    trending towards 10%, if you’re near 8% and losing 750K jobs a month, I believe that’s a reasonable conclusion. It had to slow down to not get there til October/November.

  • Sandie

    You are making assumptions. Amusing how your take 7.8% at the end of Bush’s term and call it 8% then talk about how it was trending to 10. It is obvious you are trying to make Bush the villain for everything while painting your hero Obama as a god-send, which he isn’t. This is getting really boring. How long are you going to nit pic this to death? Anyone ever call you Taitohead?

  • Anonymous

    I am not painting Obama as anything, I am only pointing out the fact that Bush’s administration is to blame for the hole we are in today. I said near 8%, not 8%. And would you admit that if we take the names out and just give you the circumstances of being @ 7.8% and losing 750K jobs per month, that we would assume that the 7.8% is going up pretty quickly and working it’s way towards a higher number, like 10. Independent of who was in office that number would work it’s way towards 10 if we are adding 750K jobs or .4 or 5% to it every month.

  • Sandie

    Stop your manipulations already. Bush’ policies did not create the unemployment problem as much as you want to blame it on him to save Obama or Clinto, or Barney, Maxine, Chris etc. This is tiresome and pointless.