Bill Kristol, other GOPers caving on taxes

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Bill Kristol, best known for being completely wrong on the arab spring (see: what could possibly go wrong here?) is still giving opinions in case anyone is still paying attention to him. This time he’s arguing that Republicans should just cave in and give democrats the higher tax rate – as if that’ll solve everything and not make it worse. Glenn ripped the latest spineless GOP action on radio this morning.

  • ProtectorDeTerra

    Bill Kristol is a has-been.  I don’t think anyone listens to him anymore, or at least I don’t and never had.  The GOP has lost me.  It’s being run by a bunch of insiders who are no better than the Democrats.  Don’t raise my TAXES!!!!

    If the GOP wants to keep any of its power, the party ought to listen to the people — don’t, raise, our, TAXES!!!

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Most of the Republican old guard and leadership has caved in already; I can no longer trust any of the political groups in Congress save for those who actually do what they say they will no matter the consequences to their future careers.

    If we cannot win back the conservative movement from the ground up, one in which the people themselves make the calls, we are finished.

  • Guest

    Look at Glenn Beck try to inspire his working class followers to fight to keep his taxes low and have your benefits gutted. Man, this guy is a piece of work!

  • Bob Tague

    Romney
    supports most of Obama care, the Patriot act, weapons bans, stimulus packages,
    bailouts, TARP, sanctions and wars all over the world, both love our Fed
    Chairman Ben Bernanke.  Both support the NDAA, the ability to indefinetly
    detain “Suspected” Americans.  Both think Tim Geitner is wonderfull. Both
    got huge “donations”  from Goldman sacks, JP Morgan, Citibank, Morgan
    Stanley.  Just wait and see how are wonderfull elected officials handle
    the Fiscal Cliff.  EVERYONE of them will say they are working for us and I
    guarantee you we are screwed somehow when the smoke clears, all Americans are
    slaves to this system.  I consider myself a political atheist when it
    comes to presidential elections from here on out.  The only candidate I
    will even consider will be the one from the Libertarian party.  Good luck
    to anyone who still thinks the ONLY choices are republican or democrat!

  • Elizabeth Bracy

    Am I wrong to be very very disappointed in the GOP? First, they nominate the wrong candidate, Romney (I did like him, but he just couldn’t connect with the people), then the GOP is not being aggressive enough in the Benghazi investigation, and now Boehner is going to probably cave to taxing. Argh! Where is the Tea Party??

  • Draxx

    Either the Senators or Congressmen, are NOT Listening to their constituents, or if they are listening then they are Ignoring What We Ask Them to Do or Not To Do… 

    This Must Change!!!

  • Anonymous

    It appears as if Kristol is auditioning for a spot at MSNBC as a stand-in for Joe Scarborough.  The two have a lot in common.

  • Anonymous

    OOOOOOHHHHHHH POOR glenn beck!  Looks like glenn will have to pay his share in taxes.  Heartbreaking.

  • greywolfrs

    Actually, let the tax cuts expire for ALL, then blame the Democraps for raising taxes on EVERYONE. Oh the horror, then morons like matt “the moron” driscoll and sticky chin might actually have to pay some taxes. Opps, my bad, they don’t pay taxes on welfare.

  • http://twitter.com/paoligarcy Paolina

     The GOP is done for. They will either betray conservatives to try and win over the “hispanic vote” (and by doing so lose the conservative hispanic vote!), or they will stick around deluded they have a shot at winning despite the demographic shift.

    The only real solution is to separate while Texas still is conservative. If we wait another 20 years Texas will become overrun by socialists from the open borders and then conservatives will NEVER regain the white house for 100 years.

    I don’t know about you, but I’d rather live in the world’s 15th largest economy (Texas) without a socialist overlord in D.C. Texas only gets $0.85 for every tax dollar we send to DC so we’d save hundreds of billions by leaving!

  • Anonymous

    As are you!  Why bother reading and commenting if you find Glenn so distasteful?

  • BentGhazi

    You are as always an idiot. You think this story is about the failed fantasy of your relationship with Beck. Sorry, but he has better things to do with his time than pay attention to morons like you.

    Sit and spin.

  • http://twitter.com/campfireshadows joesph edwards

     I’ll be happy to join you in Texas along with all the rest of those who love the Constitution as our forefathers wrote it! ! 

  • Anonymous

    Bill Kristol has lost ALL respect as a conservative spokesman.He is on the same laval as Obama. I don’t believe a word he says. 

  • http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

    there will be more spending cuts beyond sequestration…as intended.

  • Anonymous

    SOOOOO not happy…Being a Republican they better not fold !!! WE voted for them to do what the REPUBLICAN people want and now just like the DEMS more liars….this country is going over either way,,,we can’t expect any of these guys to figure anything out…it wouldn’t be for us anyway matter what,Screwed is what we will be again. I started preparing right after Obama won the first term…I suggest everyone start  getting ready for a “HARD next 4 years. AWESOME !!

  • http://twitter.com/paoligarcy Paolina

    This won’t change. It hasn’t changed in a hundred years!

    Influencing the government of 320 million in D.C. is impossible even for 10,000 people united in trying to do so. Seceding will allow conservatives to finally focus on their local state governments and cities and put the pressure locally where it will actually make an impact!

    Want to change things? Take power away from the federal government! The government keeps growing and growing, the ONLY way to stop that growth is to threaten to separate from it!

  • http://twitter.com/paoligarcy Paolina

    This won’t change. It hasn’t changed in a hundred years!

    Influencing the government of 320 million in D.C. is impossible even for 10,000 people united in trying to do so. Seceding will allow conservatives to finally focus on their local state governments and cities and put the pressure locally where it will actually make an impact!

    Want to change things? Take power away from the federal government! The government keeps growing and growing, the ONLY way to stop that growth is to threaten to separate from it!

  • Anonymous

    Maybe because it’s a public forum for exchange of ideas…

  • Anonymous

    It is time for a revolution!

  • http://twitter.com/LindsayConey Lindsay Coney

    It appears as if Kristol is auditioning for a spot at MSNBC as a stand-in for Joe Scarborough. http://youtube.qr.net/jN3i/watch?v=vtNTgwzt7iY

  • landofaahs

    Kristol has to suck up the teet sucking DC crowd.  What the hell else would he do for a living but lie?

  • Anonymous

    If you still believe in the “system” ( the free election system) and that your vote really counts –you’re living in a dream world. The last election was bought and paid for–before the first vote was cast. There was no way conservaties would win. The deck was already stacked against anyone who would attempt to oust Obama and the liberals. No matter what it took they were not going to lose. Obama controls the Executive, Judicial and Legislative branches of the government.He controls all the government agencies: Dept Of Justice,CIA,FBI,the military ATF ,Border Control, etc. The Supreme court, The Federal courts and local federal judges he appointed all backed him. He controls most if not all the news media: TV,radio, printed press, magazines,Public TV ( there are still a few examples of free speech left,but they are ineffective)
    He is backed by: hollywood,the music entertainers, athletes, actors, directors,the green industry and all the people that he paid kick backs to(with government grants and loans— to support him. How many illegal aliens do you think voted for Obama? How many people on welfare and those that recieve government funding and have government jobs voted for Obama? How many in the military were unable to vote or not allowed to vote? This was the beginning of the end for free elections in this country. Your next president will be Hillary Clinton and so on and so on.
    Your vote counted as much as it did for people in Russia, and Cuba and Venezula.
    Secession is a joke and won’t happen unless there is a bloody cvil war to make it happen.
    Ask your self —what are you willing to sacrifice to keep your freedoms–your job, your house ,your bank account, your family, your life? Unless you are willing to make that kind of sacrifice—–don’t pretend that you won’t accept and abide by your supreme commander in chief’s decissions and executive orders. There is no middle ground!
    Lock and load people! 

  • Elizabeth Bracy

    Paolina, I think you have a valid point, especially considering the projected deficit will be 20 trillion+ in 2016. The federal govt. won’t be able to survive long with just the radical states like CA and NY supporting it.

  • Elizabeth Bracy

    You are right. The few I had faith in, like Col. Allen West, were voted out. I believe (please correct me if I’m wrong) that in the Constitution there is a clause/article that states when the govt. becomes oppressive (or something to that extent) we the people have a right to throw them all out and elect new ones. Ron Paul, hold a press conference, and let’s get started.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paul-Marks/1266358046 Paul Marks

    Well at least the neocons are consistent – wrong on the “Arab Spring” (and democracy in the Islamic world generally) and wrong on taxes.

  • Anonymous

    I agree 100%.  Let the Bush tax cuts expire.  What happened when the Bush tax cuts were imposed?  Many people did not have to pay taxes and in many cases they got money back from the Federal Government and I am sure these people voted for Obama.  I will pay a little more in taxes, but  I will have the comfort of knowing that those people who did not pay taxes under the Bush tax cuts will start to pay again.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OHOK3XPCXDN4MUHALYYD76BHHE Harry

    Allen West was the only guy (aside from Paul Ryan) who had the guts to stand up to O-blame-a the way that Glenn was just saying.

  • Anonymous

    The first time seceding from the union led to the American Civil War. Do you believe the US government would allow a peacable secession. If we want to discuss the Constitution, how much weight do you think it carries with all the Morons that voted for Obama

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_63M2KSGFVZEDMJQMO2BB7EX47M Gert B Frobe

    TERM limits are the answer to the GOP suck-up mentality that has begun or been in the swing for awhile.  When you give an elected official 2 terms to make a difference, you then make it so they can focus on the issues and not the elections since it won’t make a difference.  Complacency and indifference permeate through Washington and the good ole boy attitude takes effect and people forget who they are and try to keep a hold on their seat due to benefits and not the honor of the seat appointed.  Kristol is another example of a pandering, blithering idiot who is trying to keep his place at the table to get kick backs of support and live a mediocre and non substantiated life.  Since there is no checks and balances for elections why would be expect fresh perspectives and the love of country when we don’t demand it?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_63M2KSGFVZEDMJQMO2BB7EX47M Gert B Frobe

     Secession would get the world’s attention and bring to light that some still believe in the documents that were written to avoid such an abuse in government.  A Civil War would be invited from us conservatives as we see no other method since the UN and other world type governments are getting a say to how we are see in the world economically and socially.  All I can say is if sides were chosen and lines were drawn the liberals would get wiped out in a matter of days as those that produce are more prepared and focused since we still remember what freedom really stood for.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_63M2KSGFVZEDMJQMO2BB7EX47M Gert B Frobe

     And this solves what problem to be exact?  Please don’t tell me that you
    believe that tax cuts expiring is what will fix this country and help
    this economy when we now have a government that blatantly lies to us and
    then gets re-elected based on blaming Bush. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_63M2KSGFVZEDMJQMO2BB7EX47M Gert B Frobe

     And this solves what problem to be exact?  Please don’t tell me that you
    believe that tax cuts expiring is what will fix this country and help
    this economy when we now have a government that blatantly lies to us and
    then gets re-elected based on blaming Bush.  Please tell me you firmly
    believe that our debt will ruin us and not some garbage about tax
    increases for the wealthy that wouldn’t even cover the amount of money we send the Muslim Brotherhood every year.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_63M2KSGFVZEDMJQMO2BB7EX47M Gert B Frobe

    People like you don’t persuade to look the other way but you feel the need to interject your nonsense into a discussion that is so watered down and distracting that the character you deem valid is an administration that still blames Bush for everything.  Low taxes is another version of freedom as the government should never be in the commerce business and should never have this much power.  I take it you have not researched history to find out our most prosperous times to be in the late teens to the 20′s where we had lower tax rates and business was booming. 

  • XenaWP80

    I like that phrase, “political atheist” I think I’ll borrow it from now on. Thanks!

  • Elizabeth Bracy

    I wonder what will happen if the projected (radical) Supreme Court justices are nominated in the next 4 years by Obama and the 2nd Amendment is obliterated.