Pelosi: The Founders would totes love Obamacare

Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) made quite a claim last week, arguing that the Founding Fathers would totally love Obamacare! Yes, the men who founded an entire nation from scratch and drafted a Constitution that could have basically included whatever they wanted – and yet didn’t bother to include anything about universal healthcare – would be super excited about a massive, bloated, and failing before-it’s-even-implemented government program.

PELOSI: This week marks one year since the Supreme Court upheld the Affordable Care Act. It captures the spirit of our Founders, the spirit they wrote in the Declaration of Independence: life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, to be free of constraint and job lock and policy lock.

“I don’t even know what she’s talking about,” Glenn said.

“But here’s what she’s saying,” Pat clarified. “That this massive takeover over what percentage of our economy is it? 25 percent? A third? What is it?… Yeah, one quarter of our economy. This massive takeover by the government is what our Founders – that’s the spirit of the Founders? The spirit of massive government and socialism and forcing people to pay a tax to be citizens in good standing, that’s all in the spirit of the Founders?”

“And that’s why, of course, the Founders in 1791 put in the first government universal healthcare system…” Stu joked. “They were there and they put it right… oh, no, they didn’t do that at all.”

The Founding Fathers could have put a lot of things into the Constitution – the right to a job, the right to land, the right to a certain salary, the right to healthcare – but they chose not to. And, more importantly, they chose not to for a reason.

“Yeah, they could have done a lot of things. They could have said you have a right to a job, you have a right to a certain salary, you have the right to shelter, you have a right to healthcare,” Pat said. “They could have given away plots of land and you could have owned the entire country with your citizenry, but they didn’t do that because they didn’t want to, and they knew it was wrong. They knew that system of government just didn’t work.”

WATCH Rep. Pelosi’s full remarks below:

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landofaahs

What a lying stupid Bi–h. How can anyone be that stupid and still be voted into office? Oh, I forgot. The same way they elect a person who says that if everyone gets on the same side of the island, it could tip over. I guess that same mentality applies with Nancy’s idiotic statement.
Did that dense moron ever stop to think that had the founders thought it was a good idea, that they would have made it part of the constitution from the beginning? Goofball liberals and their gleaming idiocy.
- Anonymous
  
  Democrat Hank Johnson-He’s our man, if he can’t sink Guam- NOBODY CAN!
landofaahs

Sadly, when Nancy Pelosi leaves San Francisco and goes to the democrat national convention, the IQ of both places increase.
- http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)
  
  That is what they get for allowing her to use too much bo-tox, rots the brain and corrupts the soul.
- Anonymous
  
  Well the first part is probably true, but I can’t imagine Pelosi increasing the IQ of any place other than by leaving it.
http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

Once again the bo-tox princess speaks and confirms her madness.

The founders would have dumped Obama-care into the ocean, or started a second revolution to have the Obama admin overthrown for they would have seen it for the truth: a dictatorship that has all but destroyed the Republic.

Obama is madness personified, Pelosi is the mirror image, and completely insane.
- laura
  
  I think Bo-Tox witch would be more accurate
landofaahs

Pelosi is the perfect example of what is wrong with California, the land of granola. Take away the nuts and fruits and all that’s left over is flakes.
- Anonymous
  
  Very good, and, true.
  - greywolfrs
    
    Not really, these are comments made by people who have never been here, much less lived here.
- Anonymous
  
  Please….Pelosi is more typical of the San Francisco area. That includes her Senatorial sisters Boxer and Feinstein. There are lots of true conservatives still in CA. We are outnumbered by the left-wing limousine liberals, and we can’t afford to move the heck out of here!
  - Anonymous
    
    It’s getting close to THAT time in history when we the people must take back our once great nation.
    - Anonymous
      
      why because you are no long hanging minority for looking at white women…
      - Anonymous
        
        your response doesn’t even make sense, libtard4ever.
    - Anonymous
      
      Agree!!!
      - Bonnie Somer
        
        amen
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    I guess that same mentality applies with Nancy’s idiotic statement.
    Did
    that dense moron ever stop to think that had the founders thought it
    was a good idea, that they would have made it part of the constitution
    from the beginning? Goofball liberals and their gleaming idiocy.
  - landofaahs
    
    Perhaps you can’t afford not to either.
- Anonymous
  
  I live in California and yes the leftist would label me a nut but I’m definitely not a fruit or flake; then again I’m from Oklahoma. It’s a damn shame what this land of hand outs and the frozen masses with their hand out has become. My pay check pays for these stinking pervs and reprimate. Calling this sodom and ghonnorhea is more accurate.
  - landofaahs
    
    You have my sympathy.
- Anonymous
  
  Hey! Not all of us are a pack of mindless idiots! Although living here, you do tend to feel like you have absolutely no control over anything, because the idiots in SF and LA will make sure that all the ridiculous, make your eyes bleed and hair catch on fire, over reaching legislation passes. And I just want to know one thing: Is Pelosi a stroke victim? Seriously. She needs to be evaluated. I don’t think she’s fit to rule…err…I mean legislate with just that one marble rolling around up there in her empty noggin.
  - landofaahs
    
    If you’re not idiots then you suffer from Stockholm Syndrome because you’re still there taking the abuse.
    - Anonymous
      
      Will you pay my for my moving expenses, then? lol California is actually a great place to live. We have some of the most beautiful natural settings you could ever want to see, all within a few hours drive (or less, depending on where you are) away. And, although you wouldn’t guess, most of California is made up of a lot of small communities (with quite a few conservatives). Where I live is a great place to raise a family: a real slice of old time Americana, really. Where we still say the Pledge of Allegiance every morning at school, where my kids actually checked out a book from her classroom library about Jesus. Where you pretty much know everyone, and if you don’t, you will! When someone is in need, the community rallies around them doing whatever they can to help. It’s a little conservative Utopia, right here in the heart of California. Now, if we could just do something about the loons running the joint! lol
      - landofaahs
        
        Not so many years ago, my Mother and Father went to g California to visit my Mothers sister(widow). Dad being a retired carpenter was going to work on my Aunt’s house. As he tried to comply with onerous ridiculous permits and rules he decided to take Benjamin Franklin’s advice as such “Two people can keep a secret as long as one of them is dead”. Job got finished and all involved are long since dead.
        I live in a state that does not have the rules other states tend to do and I live in an area in the conservative part of a conservative state where people tend to still heed Ben Franklin’s advice. Keep up the passive resistance.
    - greywolfrs
      
      Really? Let me tell you something, I will NEVER leave. I will NOT give up my home, where I was born, raised and still living, to illegals and left wing dolts. These colors don’t run. Besides, the weather is here and I live in a target rich environment.
      - landofaahs
        
        Great!! I never asked you to leave. These colors don’t run either. We just ….moved on the undesirables. Besides, I love the different seasons. If I want to though, I can move to wherever spring is. I love spring.
        I will pray for you and hope things will change there. God bless you. I meant no disrespect or harm. Forgive me if I left you with that impression, it was not my intent.
    - Anonymous
      
      Agree, there should be enough people there to start some type of meetings to get a plan together to take back your state. Do something not just sit back and do nothing, that is why we’re in this type of mess.
- greywolfrs
  
  So, I live in the greater Los Angeles area, which one am I? I am truly interested in knowing that and exactly what you know about CA.
- Bonnie Somer
  
  and union control flakes u bet CA is an example of what not to do and Obama is the leader of what not to do he shows us y big govt is NOT right and our founders would b rolling in their graves
- 733336
  
  good one!
landofaahs

Pelosi the poodle noodle ding-bat.
landofaahs

I’ve heard of Coast to Coast but these liberals are Kooks to Kooks.
Gadamer too:

Nancy Pelosi’s an ignorant liberal moron. She doesn’t have a clue as to what the Founding Fathers wanted. It’s time for this old fart to retire to the old folks home.
- Anonymous
  
  “Flame warrior” …. maybe we can light “this old fart” like we used to in my university days! Let me know when. Me [sic] and my friends want to watch! Hahahahaha!
- laura
  
  I think she should be put in a monkey cage at the zoo, they will pull all of her eyelashes out.
Anonymous

Nancy Pelosi has a terminal case of rectal-cranial inversion, yet she still manages to pull these things out of her rectum. What she doesn’t know about the Founding Fathers could fill a major city library.
- Anonymous
  
  It does and it’s called the San Francisco Public Library right smack in the middle of her rectum….um, district, I mean. Used to work right across the street from it …. the library, THE LIBRARY ….sheesh!
  - Anonymous
    
    It probably wouldn’t hurt her to spend a little time in it. She just might be able to put something into that empty cranium.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

Does anyone remember when she said her favorite word is the word? Maybe she means this word because she does not mean the word of God because after all murder is a sin and killing babies in the womb counts as murder. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WNrx2jq184
maggiespat

This woman is insane. Health independence? Life, Nancy, life, life, life. That means not being murdered in your mother’s womb to suit the Democratic party agenda.
Anonymous

What the hell are job lock and policy lock?
- Anonymous
  
  In Lock Step?
Anonymous

I’m sure Pelosi would have remained loyal to King George and would have called the Revolution “astroturf”.
Anonymous

OUST — OBAMA..TOO.
Anonymous

Imagine one of the Founding Fathers saying “You need to ratify this Constitution so you can see what’s in it.”
http://1.usa.gov/1aIL6Rg GNH

She’s cracked.
Anonymous

I tell you what, She would be the first woman they would hang for treason if she were present during that time.
Anonymous

Some people wonder if Pelosi is really ignorant or if she counts on people who listen to her as being ignorant, I believe if you agree with her, both you and Pelosi are ignorant
Anonymous

Does she actually hear what she says ??,
sorry don’t answer that,
thanks,
I don’t think she reads her brain before she reads that piece of autonomy either.
As they say ” she does not know her ………………. in the ground”.
Anonymous

It is a damn shame that we have people like her and others elected to represent the people. A damn shame.
- Anonymous
  
  No surprise here! After all, her “district” covers parts of northern SF and parts of southern Marin county. The people voting in her district make Karl Marx look like a capitalist and conservative. Cheers.
Anonymous

Pelosi is amazing — cunning politician, yet dumber than a box of rocks.
Anonymous

Sorry Pelosi, you skank. But the founding fathers would take this son of a bitch out and shoot his moslem brotherhood c(BLEEP)nt off.
Herbert Shallcross

This week marks one year since Mohammed Morsi became leader of Egypt. He is out on his kiester now. If only we could achieve the same miracle with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.
- Anonymous
  
  Exactly. Egypt gets rid of that Morsi asswipe, and the great America can’t get rid of it’s stinking obunghole?
  - Anonymous
    
    Looks like they started to miss their tourist dollars. It’s about time!
http://www.absoluteintensity.com dennis reilly

she could help so many poor people with the money she spends on botox and her pant suits
http://www.absoluteintensity.com dennis reilly

do you think she would have volunteered to fight for the union at Gettysburg?
Anonymous

Is DISQUS not working properly here on the Beck site? Seems to work elsewhere.
Anonymous

Pelosi should decrease her carbon foot print and hang herself!!!
Anonymous

Yep these men who went to war because they believed men should be able to live free of the taxing of a tyrannical government would love this biggest tax increAse In the history of the world. They and the bible defined a tyrannical government as any government that taxed at a higher rate than 10%. We have lost our way patriots, the only way this is going to change is not by holding their hands, it’s not by negotiation or elections; it will be and must be by force!!!!
Take 2

Yah! Like George Washington would have wanted anything named after himself or see anyone of the framers forcing a “Voluntary” TAX and dare if you don’t pay original Tax pay up to X 4 original Voluntary Tax (health) bill i.e. Penalty for not agreeing to Volunteer paying for something you do not want or need…right? right? right?

Unfortunately, I am not confused too…! But that is exactly what Chief Justice Roberts ruled was as per Constitutional Law. right? right? right?
az

She just had a injection, give her a break, she mis- spoke.
laura

Nancy Pelosi is the epitome of ‘delusion insanity’. A box of Grape Nuts is smarter than she is. She literally redefines the meaning of words to support her asinine beliefs.
Anonymous

And to think, at one point in our history this bald-faced brain-dead liar was just one well placed bullet and a heart attack away from becoming the POTUS.

I thought at the time that this country could never again sink so low, but I was wrong when Obama got elected to a second term.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Erik-Osbun/100001215333702 Erik Osbun

PELOSI: This week marks one year since the Supreme Court upheld the
Affordable Care Act. It captures the spirit of our Founders, the spirit
they wrote in the Declaration of Independence: life, liberty, and
pursuit of happiness, to be free of constraint and job lock and policy
lock.

[ This is from the Botox babe and is absolutely false. ]
- Anonymous
  
  “Babe” ? hardly–Bimbo? Yes
antithetical radical

Her brain damage is showing again. When is the House going to expel this twit?
Sandie

How this Missfit Nit Twit makes the connections she does between the Declaration of Independence and Obamacare is beyond bizarre!
- Anonymous
  
  The “left” side of aisle is chocked full of Representatives and Senators, who have no business there.
  
  Old English common law dictates that no profit can be made from an illegal act. Philosophically speaking, I ask the question–should a person be able to vote who is NOT a net tax payer, but a net tax receiver?
  
  The same philosophical notion is contained in both of the above scenarios. NP tells us that only those who earned income and paid taxes should be accorded the control over those funds? Or else we get what is now happening–one group voting itself the fruits of another’s labor…
  
  At one time, property owners were the only one’s given the right to vote! What about an IQ test? I,m serious–we have a problem and the left is bound and determined to give away America’s privilege to control its own destiny…
  
  There are some real pieces of work in the Democratic party.
  - The Blue Tail Gadfly
    
    Who is NP?
    
    For the sake of argument, lets say what you are suggesting is constitutional, have you taken into consideration how a large percentage of the Citizens would react to having their voting “rights” removed?
    
    About your IQ test, who would design and administer these tests, and what would happen if you failed and lost your own right to vote?
    
    Dangerous stuff you are proposing.
    
    -BTG
    
    “It is in vain to say that enlightened statesmen will be able to adjust
    these clashing interests, and render them all subservient to the public
    good. Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.
    Nor, in many cases, can such an adjustment be made at all without taking
    into view indirect and remote considerations, which will rarely prevail
    over the immediate interest which one party may find in disregarding
    the rights of another or the good of the whole” –James Madison Federalist No.10
    - Anonymous
      
      Respectfully, are you being deliberately disagreeable, or do you lack the capacity think philosophically–“outside of the box,” so to speak?
      
      Can’t you allow yourself to “entertain ideas without accepting them?” Solving a problem requires identifying such. I suggest the American electoral process is damaged, even broken… Thus, I play with ideas?
      
      Cogito
      - The Blue Tail Gadfly
        
        Re: “Can’t you allow yourself to “entertain ideas without accepting them?””
        
        I did entertain your idea and foresaw serious flaws, why should I or others continue to entertain your dangerous proposals?
        
        If you feel these ideas of yours are ingenious and need to be promoted, then please start by addressing my valid concerns pertaining to your ideas.
        
        How is giving the federal government the power to deny lawful Citizens the right to vote, solving the problem?
        
        Since you are so philosophical, you must have taken into account the reaction of the populace who suddenly have had their voting rights removed. So please enlighten the people and tell us what you have concluded will happen and what is acceptable.
        
        Did you even consider what would happen when a “Nancy Pelosi” is in charge of those “IQ” tests of yours?
        
        It’s not a question of “if” these things will happen, it’s a question of “when”. Remember the wise words of James Madison, “Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.”
        
        All the answers you seek are in the very box you so desperately wish to avoid. There is no need to re-invent the wheel or take away peoples rights, which only opens the door for further tyrannical abuses of power. No my elitist friend, the answer lies within the educating of the populace.
        
        “Educate and inform the whole mass of the people… They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.” –Thomas Jefferson
        
        -BTG
      - http://alternet.com/ George Schmitt
        
        How about bringing our troops home to work on infrastructure. Federalize public schools giving each student the same amount. Release all non-violent drug offenders. Inforce the separation of church and state. Tax churches income and property. A wealth tax on peoples fortunes over a million dollars. A highly progressive income tax needed for fairer wealth distrubution. Make the minimum wage a living wage. Bring back the luxury tax on boats, multiple homes, jewlery, etc. Socialize medicine. Only congress has the right to wage war. Wage equality for women. Inforce strict child work rules. Legalize marijuhana. Establish federal voting standards. Publicly funded elections. Free education k-graduate school based on ability. No government involvement between a patient and their doctor invoving treatment. Equal pay for women. Equal rights in all areas for the LGBT comunity. You cannot discriminate by skin color or race or gender. Gerymandering stopped by federal approval of redistricting in all states. Absentee voting for everyone. Now get busy, you asked for some food for thought.
      - Anonymous
        
        Apparently, you are a Federalist, wheras I have become more and more wedded to States Rights.
        
        America is a “house divided” and not by a Mason Dixon line, rather by geographic factions. If we don’t flex to regional influences, we “cannot stand.” We are teetering on a second civil war! I’d prefer w avoid that?
        
        Purveyor
      - http://alternet.com/ George Schmitt
        
        The divisions we see between the north and south come from migration patterns coming from Europe. English exploiters in the south, northern European artisans, shop owners, etc. that came later in the north. They never used slave labor to do their work. There is a mormon Island in the west that must be delt with if we are to talk of secession. Federalism leads to uniformity of standards that must be met in a modern society to compete with the rest of the world. Creationism and magic thinking won’t make it. If they will not submit to reason and the laws of the universe they must go. You can’t make up your own facts and survive to long in this world.
      - Anonymous
        
        Believe it or not, you are close to a revelation here? Unfortunately, you risk becoming the very ‘Nietzchean’ monster you purse…
      - http://alternet.com/ George Schmitt
        
        If the hicks in the south don’t quit all this bullshit we in the north may damand that the south and mormon areas in the west seceede. The right wing is trashing our country, send them off by themselves, leaving sane people alone.
      - Anonymous
        
        You might “get what you ask for.”
      - Guest
        
        Food? That was decaying leftover left wing socialist garbage.
  - http://alternet.com/ George Schmitt
    
    Those “old” Democrats are the only thing saving the country from the cristofacist menace on your “right” yeh right. You think that just because you are super high in the brains department this doesn’t give you the right to shit down on the poor and down-trodden. In fact your high intellegence should hold you morally responsible for your fellow man. Many people are for some reason unable to give much in this world. It is our obligation to help them. Sociopaths can’t seem to understand this obvious responsibility. By the way your pieces of work like Bachmann, Palin, Boehner, Santorum, Gingrich, Bush I and II, Cain, Cheney, Rove, Perry, Scott, god can you stand by these jerks and call the democrats a bunch of old men, shame on your brain, check your amygula.
  - http://alternet.com/ George Schmitt
    
    If you gave an IQ test for rights, the republican party would dissapear. 90% of all college professors are democrats, so are most people with a brain. IQ test the candidates put up on the republican side last year. I suspect a cumulative average at the moron level.
    - Guest
      
      College profs are a dime a dozen and often devoid of critical thinking skills, prefering the (proven to be a failure) socialist utopia. So grab this one; more than 90% of all brain surgeons and neurosurgeons are Republicans. They are critical thinkers and live in the real world!
      - http://alternet.com/ George Schmitt
        
        To be a college professor you must have a Bachelor degree, a masters degree, and a doctorate degree. This takes on average 9 years to obtain. They do not recieve huge fortunes like the surgeons do. You are in over your head with such inane remarks.
      - Guest
        
        BS George. I am well aware of what it takes for advanced degrees as I have devoted my time to academia to earn mine – and it didn’t take me 9 years! My comment comes from experience, and it still stands.
      - http://alternet.com/ George Schmitt
        
        Just plain Horse Sense I guess.
- Anonymous
  
  Stretches credulity does it not?
  - Sandie
    
    So far that it breaks with a snap, like Pelosi’s mind.
    - Anonymous
      
      LMAO!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Malcolm-Krause/100001263810852 Malcolm Krause

Pelosi would have been put in a nut house and given a labotamy. Obama would have been thrown out. Clinton would be in jail, Eric holder would be given a IQ test, between him and a cow. Infact most of the congress and senate would have been arrested and set before the actual people to explain all the money they have stolen from the people. The Suprem Court would have been abolished.
The founders may have left America.
Anonymous

See, I KNEW she was at least 300 yrs old as she knows what the founding fathers thought!! Man, I gotta get some of that Botox stuff!!!
Jeff Noncent

Pelosi and Obama is a joke all the way they shoulf get fired because there not doing there job right
Anonymous

SHE IS THE GOOFIEST representative I have ever seen.I am surprised she did not counsel with her Constitutional lawyers.They’d probably tell her for her own good to SHUT UP!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=590287306 William VanderVoort

I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.” – Benjamin Franklin.
So much for the founding fathers being for Obama Care as Nancy Pelosi suggests.
greywolfrs

Well, to some degree she is correct. Maybe to Hamilton and the Federalists, this would have been a good idea. To Jefferson and the Anti-Federalists, this would have been bad. I guess it’s a good thing that the anti-Federalists basically got more of what they wanted…
- The Blue Tail Gadfly
  
  When you wrote “Hamilton and the Federalists”, are you referring to American Federalism outlined in the Federalist (papers) and the Constitution or the Federalist political party?
  
  The reason I ask is because in your next sentence you lump Thomas Jefferson and the Anti-Federalists together. Knowing that the Anti-Federalists were in opposition to the Federalists (not the political party) and the ratification of the Constitution, I am having difficulties following your point.
  
  Thanks,
  
  BTG
  - greywolfrs
    
    Hamilton was the founder of the Federalist Party. Jefferson and Madison helped form the Anti-Federalist party.
Anonymous

She rock ,anything she can do to screw over right-wing is fine by me.
Anonymous

Pelosi Keep up the great work
az

There is something sexy about that crazy woman.
Anonymous

why is it that conservation are such bitches..
I do hope someone put their foot up Glen Beck ass.
- Gadamer too
  
  Why is it that you’re so ignorant. You seem to be fixated on becks backside.
  
  Definition of FIXATED
  
  : arrested in development or adjustment; especially : arrested at a pregenital level of psychosexual development
  
  I know you have a problem with big words so I gave you the definition of the word.
Anonymous

Pelosi support liberal cause from the darkness of right stupidly and hate.
- Gadamer too
  
  So Pelosi is your great Grandma. Did she let you use the computer in the basement? LMFAO
Anonymous

Pelosi is flat stupid. I hope someone else can read this who is looking in. California is classic. They all deserve each other out there in never never land.
no name

How does she get reelected. The people in here district cant be that dumb
Anonymous

Pelosi and Biden belong in the same Nut House together!
- 733336
  
  Sounds like they had escaped from the nut house.
Anonymous

Glenn, As you know the left is dilusional..they have proved they are fools time and time again.
Anonymous

pelosi the wicked witch of the west. my family don’t even like her.
733336

This could be taken as a comedy skit but I don’t hear anyone laughing.

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