Sen. Mike Lee looks to strengthen the separation of church and state with new legislation

On Thursday’s Glenn Beck Program, Buck Sexton filled in for Glenn and was joined by Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) to discuss his Marriage and Religious Freedom Act. The bill looks to restrict President Obama’s ability to push churches and other nonprofit groups to recognize gay marriage via executive power.

As Sen. Lee explained, the bill would “make it impossible for the federal government to discriminate against such churches or against similarly situated organizations based on belief or action taken in conformity with the belief that marriage exists between one man and one woman.” The idea is that a religious institution would not have to choose between its tax-exempt status and maintaining its religious beliefs.

Sen. Lee detailed the ins-and-outs of the legislation, in addition to sharing his thoughts about the recent controversy surrounding Duck Dynasty star Phil Robertson’s indefinite hiatus from A&E because of his comments about homosexuality. Check out the interview below:

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  • Anonymous

    Interesting, and I will look for the legislation when the Senator presents it.

  • John Scott

    Its unconscionable that we have to introduce legislation to prevent government from mandating what churches believe in? I think the progressive want to erase any opposing beliefs that do not represent theirs. That is truly disturbing and a sign that Obama has some very relaxed beliefs of his faith. I seriously even question his true faith from what I have seen.

  • Anonymous

    The First Amendment guarantees being put up for a legislative vote? Has everyone gone crazy? This is how The Constitution gets weakened: word redefinition, unnecessary Supreme Court decisions, misuse of Executive Orders, unnecessary and possibly contradictory legislation.

  • WASP

    I’m fricken exhausted and the day has yet to begin. I can’t stand this sh!t anymore. Am I alone in that or what? Who made Obama God? The pr!ck the antichrist or what? I’ll bite his head off if he is :) Anyone want the job? BECAUSE I AM DONE !!!
    Where is the church on this? Or they just going to cave into the Weirdo in the oval’s wishes. I’m sick of the spineless, toothless challenges. “strengthen” what a joke. Yes let’s look to the power of legislation. Nevermind the fact ALMIGHTY God himself has ESTABLISHED that. Once again D.C. is pissing all over Christianity yet and now we are going to piss back. I know I am not alone in this. An “act of congress” won’t get the job done AT ALL. Post what you feel people. Hold nothing back.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    Liberals just want everyone to conform to one mind. They want to replace God with the golden calf of Obama or in the long run the government. It is no mistake Barbra Walters called Obama Messiah or the left introducing him as Messiah. They want to replace God with man and I am sorry left but what you guys made is a false idol and a dangerous one at that. I am all for this it is sad when we have to explain to half the country what the Constitution protects but so be it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    Not the only one that feels this way.

  • Anonymous

    What many call “Political Correctness” is really nothing but the Progressive religion, that sets up human authority as God in the Holy Temple of individual conscience.

    Note how anyone who rejects the progressive dogma is labeled: “hateful”, “selfish”, “bigoted”, “vile”, “corrupt”, “cruel”, “mean-spirited”, “stupid”, “heartless”, and on and on and on.

    Some progs will openly call for the P.C. heretics to be imprisoned or even be killed, and the P.C. faithful saynothing to moderate the fanatics in their camp; either they agree with them, or are too fearful of the power of the inquisitional tribunal of the progressive church edifice.

    Perhaps there is no literal stake at the center of town upon which these execrable heretics may be burned, but the Public airwaves are just as [or even more] visible a scaffold upon which the condemned are displayed and punished for their damnable heresies.

    What the progressive zealot demands is imposition of a collective conscience in place of individual conscience, and since there are always more wicked than righteous, that collective conscience will always demand the destruction of the individual conscience.

    Peter revealed the reason for the Great Flood. Writing of the wicked in the days of Noah, he wrote, “Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

    They were “saved by water, not FROM it.

    Why? because darkness HATES light; the unjust pursue and destroy the just, that the voice of true justice [not hyphenated "justice"] might be silenced, because the conscience of the wicked collective must usurp, supplant and eradicate the individual whose conscience is illuminated by and loyal to God.

    That’s why the prophets of old were slain, that’s why Christ was slain, why His first followers were slain, why so-called ‘heretics’ in the dark ages were slain, and that’s why the spiritual and intellectual children of those persecuters work to suppress and destroy the light of truth and individual conscience today. They occupy the same ground as the Jihadis of fascist Islam, but flatter themselves with their self-referential moral and intellectual superiority – as an orthodoxy which must be upheld and defended upon pain of ostracism, interdict and excommunication.

    By definition, any laws or constitutions contrary to these “principles” is automatically immoral, unjust, null and void, and must only be adhered to unless and until they may be, by some device or artifice, set aside or abrogated.

    So, no matter what legislation is written or ratified, it will be impossible to stop the progressive crusade against the individual and their conscience, because progressivism is the religion of the wicked [the majority], which will not tolerate any other. Not to say that we ought to just lay down the standard upon the field of battle and just let them enslave us, but that we cannot use their weapons against them, lest we become another version of ‘progressives’ with a different, more correct or orthodox religion.

    Benjamin Franklin wrote, “When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when
    it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so
    that its professors are obliged to call for help of the civil power,
    ‘tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.”
    – Benjamin Franklin, in a letter to Richard Price. October 9, 1790.

    God forbid that we who believe that Liberty is the gift of God to all mankind permit the defense of that Liberty to ‘mission-creep’ into a denial of another’s own Liberty of conscience. We can mean to do well, and end up doing evil. That’s how Eve was deceived at the beginning, and look at where we are now.

  • Anonymous

    I am more concerned what the employees of Catholic Church affiliated places of employment want and not what the the Bishops think if a 20 or 30 something woman wants contraception and abortion coverage in there Healthcare plan they should get it this also included Private Company owners

  • Anonymous

    Should the religious majority in America adopt an “…end justifies means” attitude, and in so doing, rape the consciences of those in the minority by imposing their collective will upon them?

    Be exceedingly careful when poking something with a stick, when you can’t see the whole thing. You could end up arousing something you can’t overcome. When [I say not if] America’s variously denominated Christian institutions and sects finally throw off the gloves, my friend, the size and power of the resulting amalgamated beast will not be stoppable, even in the name of constitutional protections.

    The error of the progressives is that they sit ever-so-sure that the peaks and valleys of the Christian topography is permanently formed. I will speak in warning to you all: Push a beast into the corner long enough, jab it in the chest often enough, and you’ll pull back a stump. The peaks and valleys of denominated Christianity will suddenly level out, and become a single entity. They will abandon their differences and act with one mind, and the progressives will be holding ‘the dirty end of the stick’.
    I do not agree with such a course, but it will happen, if the progressives don’t let leave the conscience alone.

    Let the warning be sounded, as I have done, but it’s going to happen anyway, because you progressives out there think that you are the majority, when you are not. You think that you can hide behind the parts of the constitution you like, while tearing up the parts you don’t. Never forget that Constitutionally protected Liberty stands upon the foundation stone of the integrity of the whole. Damage one part, cast aside one part, and the whole thing eventually comes down, and you will come down with it.

    If we value our own Liberty and want it protected, we must protect the Liberty of others, even if we disagree; but Liberty does not include power to force another’s conscience, even for supposedly desireable outcomes.

    What does a closed Union shop tell someone who refuses to become a member?

    Go work somewhere else.

  • Montesquieu

    Those of the liberty school understand that we benefit more from the voluntary collaboration of free men than from centralized control by detached administrators operating with inferior knowledge of local circumstances.

  • Anonymous

    I suspect that the major duty of government is to protect our lives, not to live them.This is clearly stated in the Declaration of Independence and in the Constitution.

  • Anonymous

    The progressive ‘faith’ is in themselves; that they’re certain that they’re right. The “Infallibility” of self-reference forbids the possibility of error.

    That’s why they often speak of “sacrifice”, but always with reference to someone else’s lamb. They do not feel any need to atone, because they are the possessors of the Platonic forms of virtue: filled with all good intentions and true benevolence. They mean to do well, which is as good as doing well. The progressive religion is a system of meritorious androcentric theocracy: Plato’s Republic in place of the Old Testament, and Das Kapital in place of the New.

  • Anonymous

    I really believe Obama is an atheist. He used Christianity as a political base under Rev. Wright. It is obvious Obama is not culturally a Christian. He is culturally a Muslim being one in his formulative years. I think that his Muslim heritage has shaped who he is but I do not think he is a Muslim. To Obama it is all political rather than religious.

  • Anonymous

    The Senator and the rest of Congress should do their jobs and impeach the President. He has committed more crimes than all presidents before him.

    Executive Orders do not supersede our Constitution.

    SCOTUS’s separation of church and state is bogus. There is no separation of church and state.

  • Anonymous

    I think it is about collective consciousness as you say. Progressives thrive on talking points and personal attacks. They seem to have what ‘might’ be called a hive mind as truth means little to them in their quest for a government dominated society.

  • Anonymous

    Well said!

  • Anonymous

    You have a point but we have moved away from a constitutional Republic and in many cases even democratic rule. We now live under government Public Policy. Rights are being regulated and have diminished into mere privileges in what has become a government dominated society.

  • Anonymous

    No one should have to pay for another’s birth control or abortion. You and your kind are promoting a government dominated society of victims that is moving in the direction of a police state.

  • Anonymous

    There is no constitutional separation of Church and state as it is understood by most people. The only separation is the government is forbidden to interfere with religion in any way. The first amendment to the constitution has the freedom of the press, the freedom to assemble, the freedom of speech, and the right to petition the government for redress along with the Freedom OF Religion all in the same amendment for a reason. The first thing in the amendment is the government can’t have its own religion and can’t interfere with the practice of religion. The rest of the amendment was put there to insure the freedom of Religion. The secularists want to separate the amendment into separate amendments to obscure the real meaning behind the First Amendment. The real meaning of the first amendment is the Government can’t interfere with religion in any way , but Religion is supposed to interfere with Government to keep it on the straight and narrow. A progressive Judge invented the separation of church and state as it is understood now. If you want to know more study the British burning of Churches and forbidding the assembly of churches just before and during the Revolutionary War. Also study about the Black Robes of the Revolutionary War.

  • Anonymous

    Hear James Madison’s “Memorial and Remonstrance, etc” [paragraphs 1 and 2 of 15, with introduction]:

    “We the subscribers, citizens of the said Commonwealth, having taken into serious consideration, a Bill printed by order of the last Session of
    General Assembly, entitled “A Bill establishing a provision for Teachers of the Christian Religion,” and conceiving that the same if finally armed with the sanctions of a law, will be a dangerous abuse of power, are bound as faithful members of a free State to remonstrate against it, and to declare the reasons by which we are determined.

    We remonstrate against the said Bill”*,

    *NOTE: Madison’s Memorial and Remonstrance was written in opposition to a bill, introduced into the General Assembly of Virginia, to levy a general assessment for the support of teachers of religions. The assessment bill was tabled, and in its place the legislature enacted Jefferson’s Bill for Religious Liberty.” ( Source: Hensel, Jaye B., Ed., Church, State, and Politics Washington D.C. Final Report of the 1981 Chief Justice Earl Warren Conference on Adovcacy in the United States)

    Thomas Jefferson had drafted The Virginia Act for Establishing Religious Freedom in 1779 three years after he wrote the Declaration of Independence. The act was not passed by the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Virginia until 1786. Jefferson was by then in Paris as the U.S. Ambassador to France. The Act was resisted by a group headed by Patrick Henry who sought to pass a bill that would have assessed all the citizens of Virginia to support a plural [religious] establishment.

    James Madison’s Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments was, and remains, a powerful argument against state supported religion. It was written in 1785, just a few months before the General Assembly passed Jefferson’s religious freedom bill.

    MADISON: Because we hold it for a fundamental and undeniable truth, “that religion or the duty which we owe to our Creator and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence.”

    The Religion then of every man must be left to the conviction and conscience of every man; and it is the right of every man to exercise it as these may dictate. This right is in its nature an unalienable right. It is unalienable, because the opinions of men, depending only on the evidence contemplated by their own minds cannot follow the dictates of other men:

    It is unalienable also, because what is here a right towards men, is a duty towards the Creator. It is the duty of every man to render to the Creator such homage and such only as he believes to be acceptable to him. This duty is precedent, both in order of time and in degree of obligation, to the claims of Civil Society.

    Before any man can be considerd as a member of Civil Society, he must be considered as a subject of the Governour of the Universe: And if a member of Civil Society, do it with a saving of his allegiance to the Universal Sovereign.

    We maintain therefore that in matters of Religion, no man’s right is abridged by the institution of Civil Society and that Religion is wholly exempt from its cognizance. True it is, that no other rule exists, by which any question which may divide a Society, can be ultimately determined, but the will of the majority; but it is also true that the majority may trespass on the rights of the minority.

    Because Religion be exempt from the authority of the Society at large, still less can it be subject to that of the Legislative Body. The latter are but the creatures and vicegerents of the former. Their jurisdiction is both derivative and limited: it is limited with regard to the co-ordinate departments, more necessarily is it limited with regard to the constituents. The preservation of a free Government requires not merely, that the metes and bounds which separate each department of power be invariably maintained; but more especially that neither of them be suffered to overleap the great Barrier which defends the rights of the people. The Rulers who are guilty of such an encroachment, exceed the commission from which they derive their authority, and are Tyrants. The People who submit to it are governed by laws made neither by them- selves nor by an authority derived from them, and are slaves.

    Read the whole thing:

    http://religiousfreedom.lib.virginia.edu/sacred/madison_m&r_1785.html

    All attempts of men to ‘strengthen’ rights granted by the ‘Universal Soverign’ call upon the same authority as those who move to weaken it: the coercive power of human government. Americans who value their Liberty would do well to elect representatives who approach such questions “with their shoes off of their feet”.

    Now, Article VI, Par. III of the Constitution reads, “The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trustunder the United States.

    To many this means that candidates shouldn’t even be asked, for example, what they believe about God, even by those constituents vetting them for office. However, this clause only prohibits a law from being passed prohibiting certain – or any – ones of a particular belief system [or none at all] from being elected to office..

    Any people who don’t want, for example, an atheist, to serve as steward of the Constitution, have every right to decide that they don’t want someone who thinks that the highest authority is him-or-her self, someone who believes that rights are priviledges granted, arbited or withheld by government.

    George Washington, certainly closer to the principles envisioned by the Framers than we at our day, delivered this reminder in the midst of his farewell address. Many here doubtless know it:

    “Of all the dispositions and habits, which lead to political prosperity, Religion and Morality are indispensable supports.

    In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of Men and Citizens.

    The mere Politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connexions with private and public felicity.

    Let it simply be asked, Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths, which are
    the instruments of investigation in Courts of Justice?

    And let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect, that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.

    It is substantially true, that virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government. The rule, indeed, extends with more or less force to every species of free government. Who, that is a sincere friend to it, can look with indifference upon attempts to shake the foundation of the fabric ?

    We have, for far too long, asked what government can deliver to us of other men’s goods.

    Progressives now demand control, not only over other men’s goods, but over their minds and faiths as well. Forums and public squares such as this one enable men, like the taverns of old, to meet, discuss and consider. I, for one, enjoy the company.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, my brother, I was with you until you said that Religion is supposed to interfere with government. No it’s not. The idea that government is to be ‘interfered with’ by religion is an “Old World” concept, which resulted in rivers of blood, and fire.

    Please understand I’m not against religion. I love God. We would have no true civilization without religious morality: Civil self-government is impossible without Moral self-government, but religous control of civil government can’t make it truly moral any more than government control of religion can make it civil [think about European history]. See my post including Madison’s Memorial and Remonstrance and Washington’s farewell address.

    Perhaps its a semantic variation, or not, but true religion does not need government to thrive. If it did, it would not have survived Rome in either of its phases. Government is nothing but force. It exercises that force by the laws that it enforces. To suggest that government is to be “interfered with” by religion – by my reading – means that it should enforce “the right laws”, which are religious by nature. It’s what government does: enforce laws.

    John Adams when addressing the Officers of the First Brigade of the Third Division of the Massachussetts Militia, in Oct. of 1798 said, ““We have no
    government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other.”

    It is for the People to be moral and religious. If they were, then representatives would be chosen to be stewards of the Liberty established as the foundation of the American Constitutional Republic. Of course, “if men were angels, they should not need a constitution.” to limit their ability to use the governing civil power to ‘interfere’ with the life, liberty or pursuit of happiness of others.

    It is for the Civil government to secure the Life, Liberty and pursuit of happiness of the citizens, not to make them moral, nor to equalize the outcomes of ‘life’s lottery’.

  • Anonymous

    I wanted to comment on Duck Dynasty, but webpage blocked

  • Anonymous

    I’m outraged and exhausted. Waking up every day to some new attack on what I thought was a normal, tolerant, patriotic life. Now I wake up to find out I’m a bigoted, racist, terrorist, middle class pig. While I wait for them to lock me up, I watch the TRAITOROUS ROGUE GOVERNMENT give Iran, Muslim Brotherhood, and Guantanimo-released Al Qaeda the green light to decapitate and blow up Americans, Christians, and Israel.

    So Pentagon, you’re gone? I held out for you. But you caved. Goodbye.

  • Anonymous

    If he was a athiest who cares ?

  • Anonymous

    No one is paying for someone elses Birth Control or Abortion it should be included in all Health Insurances and health Insurance should be “Provided” to all by a combination of State and Federal Government

  • Anonymous

    The liar Obama’s whole life is a fraud. Certainltly the liberal media doesn’t care. Those who take drugs probably do not care and most who receive governments entitlements do not care. But there are those who do care if their president is a fraud.

  • Anonymous

    What’s going on with you. It’s all free? Did you ever stop and think where the government gets its money for free things or the insurance company to provide the insurance.

  • Anonymous

    If your employer provides Healthcare then you provide Healthcare you don’t get Line Item Veto to pay for what you like and cross out what you don’t like and that includes Contraception and Abortion

  • Anonymous

    Seems like you have had too much FOX, Limbaugh, Hannity and Breibart a diet of those guys will fry your brain

  • Anonymous

    You seem like a gentleman and we can agree to disagree on most subjects but it is unacceptable to me to live in a government society which Barrack Obama is aggressively implementing.

  • WASP

    Bottom line, IMO, it will take us 40 and 50 somethings to DO what needs being done. Only group that has the sand to do what needs doing. That being said, for all my lunatic rants, Christ said this:

    “Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.” Mat 10:16

    So then, the pentagon indeed caved, “enemies foreign and domestic” is just a meaningless cliche. Here is a crash coarse for those that have there heads in the sand, ever watch Apocalypto?

    The pyramid where they sacrificed people by chopping off there heads? Well they are building those across the country, let’s not forget the FEMA camps, and the mothballed 30,000 GUILOTENES, the 500,000 thousand FEMA coffins stored in Atlanta, and the NOAHIDE laws that are LAW. Pentagon has been NEUTERED for they would have stepped in by now. The above are FACT. Here are a few links. And the LAW as established by the 102nd congress.

    Here’s the Law As it Reads on the Books:

    APPENDIX ONE

    105 STAT. 44 PUBLIC LAW 102-14-MAR. 20,1991

    Public Law 102-14

    102d Congress

    Joint Resolution

    Mar. 20. 1991

    [H.J Res 104] To designate March 26. 1991, as “Education Day. U. S. A.”

    Whereas Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles which are the basis of civilized society and upon which our, great Nation was founded;

    Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization,when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws;

    Whereas without these ethical values and principles the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos;

    Whereas society is profoundly concerned with the recent weakening of these principles that has resulted in
    crises that beleaguer and threaten the fabric of civilized society;

    Whereas the justified preoccupation with these crises must not let the citizens of this Nation lose sight of their responsibility to transmit these historical ethical values from our distinguished past to the generations of the future;

    Whereas the Lubavitch movement has fostered and promoted these ethical values and principles throughout
    the world;

    Whereas Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, leader of the Lubavitch movement, is universally respected and revered and his eighty-ninth birthday falls on March 26, 1991:

    Whereas in tribute to this great spiritual leader, “the rebbe”, this, his ninetieth year will be seen as one of “education and giving”, the year in which we turn to education and charity to return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws: and

    Whereas this will be reflected in an international scroll of honor signed by the President of the United States
    and other heads of state:

    Now, therefore, be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,That March 26, 1991, the start of the ninetieth year of Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, leader of the worldwide
    Lutbavitch movement. is designated as “Education Day. U.S.A.”. The President is requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities.

    PUBLIC LAW 102-14-MAR. 20,1991 105 STAT. 45

    Approved March 20, 1991

    LEGISLATIVE HISTORY-H.J Res 104

    CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. Vol 137. (1991)

    Mar 5. considered and passed House

    Mar 7. considered and passed Senate

    56

    and some more on “NOAHIDE LAW”

    The “NOAHIDE Laws” call for the

    NOAHIDE LAWS, Decapitation for Confessing “JESUS IS LORD”

    The Jewish Encyclopedia envisages a Noahide regime as a possible world order immediately preceding the universal reign of the Talmud.

    It has to be understood that we are not dealing with the Noah of the Bible when the religion of Judaism refers to “Noahide law,” but the Noahide law as understood and interpreted by the absolute system of falsification that constitutes the Talmud.

    Under the Talmud’s counterfeit Noahide Laws, the worship of Jesus is forbidden under penalty of death, since such worship of Christ is condemned by Judaism as idolatry. Meanwhile various forms of incest are permitted under the Talmudic understanding of the Noahide code. (Enziklopediya Talmudit, note 1, pp. 351-352).

    The Talmud also states the penalty for disobedience: “One additional element of greater severity is that violation of any one of the seven laws subjects the Noahide to capital punishment by decapitation. (Sanh. 57A)”

    (Talmud – Sukkah 52a). With the end of free will, the opportunity to earn reward and enhance one’s portion in the World to Come will also cease — forever.

    Rv:20:4: And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

    Maimonides Mishnah Torah, in Chapter 10 of the English Translation, states concerning Jesus Christ:

    “It is a mitzvah [religious duty; ARC], however, to eradicate Jewish traitors, minnim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the people away from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. May the name of the wicked rot.” 6.

    And WHO Supports This? (congressional law as written, posted above)

    George Bush, indicated in Public Law 102-14, 102nd Congress, that the United States of America was founded upon the Seven Universal Laws of Noah

    What Are THE SEVEN LAWS OF NOAH?

    According to the Pharisees, known today in modern day as Lubavitch Jews, the Noahide Laws are based from their version of the Talmud (Satanic version of the Torah)

    let’s take a closer look..

    1. Idolatry is forbidden. Man is commanded to believe in the One God alone and worship only Him.

    IDOLATRY
    -against entertaining the thought that there exists a deity except the Lord (to worship Jesus as the Messiah is blasphemy according to the Talmud and punishable by decapitation).
    -against making any graven image (and against having anyone else make one for us)
    -against making idols for use by others
    -against making any forbidden statues (even when they are for ornamental purposes)
    -against bowing to any idol (and not to sacrifice nor to pour libation nor to burn incense before any idol, even where it is not the customary manner of worship to the particular idol)
    -against worshipping idols in any of their customary manners of worship
    -against causing our children to pass (through the fire) in the worship of Molech.
    -against practicing Ov
    -against the practice of Yiddoni
    -against turning to idolatry (in word, in thought, in deed, or by any observance that may draw us to its worship)

    2. Incestuous and adulterous relations are forbidden. Human beings are not sexual objects, nor is pleasure the ultimate goal of life.

    ILLICIT INTERCOURSE
    against (a man) having union with his mother
    against (a man) having union with his sister
    against (a man) having union with the wife of his father
    against (a man) having union with another man’s wife
    against (a man) copulating with a beast
    against a woman copulating with a beast
    against (a man) lying carnally with a male
    against (a man) lying carnally with his father
    against (a man) lying carnally with his father’s brother
    against engaging in erotic conduct that may lead to a prohibited union

    3. Murder is forbidden. The life of a human being, formed in God’s image, is sacred.

    HOMICIDE
    against anyone murdering anyone

    4. Cursing the name of God is forbidden. Besides honoring and respecting G-d, we learn from this precept that our speech must be sanctified, as that is the distinctive sign which separated man from the animals.

    BLASPHEMY
    to acknowledge the presence of God
    to fear God
    to pray to Him
    to sanctify God’s name (in face of death, where appropriate)
    against desecrating God’s name (even in face of death, when appropriate)
    to study the Torah
    to honor the scholars, and to revere one’s teacher
    against blaspheming

    5. Theft is forbidden. The world is not ours to do with as we please.

    THEFT
    against stealing
    against committing robbery
    against shifting a landmark
    against cheating
    against repudiating a claim of money owed
    against overcharging
    against coveting
    against desiring
    a laborer shall be allowed to eat of the fruits among which he works (under certain conditions)
    against a laborer eating of such fruit (when certain conditions are not met)
    against a laborer taking of such fruit home
    against kidnapping
    against the use of false weights and measures
    against the possession of false weights and measures
    that one shall be exact in the use of weights and measures
    that the robber shall return (or pay for) the stolen object

    6. Eating the flesh of a living animal is forbidden. This teaches us to be sensitive to cruelty to animals. (This was commanded to Noah for the first time along with the permission of eating meat. The rest were already given to Adam in the Garden of Eden.)

    LIMB OF A LIVING CREATURE
    against eating a limb severed from a living animal, beast, or fowl
    against eating the flesh of any animal which was torn by a wild beast … which, in part, prohibits the eating of such flesh as was torn off an animal while it was still alive

    7. Mankind is commanded to establish courts of justice and a just social order to enforce the first six laws and enact any other useful laws or customs.

    JUSTICE
    to appoint judges and officers in each and every community
    to treat the litigants equally before the law
    to inquire diligently into the testimony of a witness
    against the wanton miscarriage of justice by the court
    against the judge accepting a bribe or gift from a litigant
    against the judge showing marks of honor to but one litigant
    against the judge acting in fear of a litigant’s threats
    against the judge, out of compassion, favoring a poor litigant
    against the judge discriminating against the litigant because he is a sinner
    against the judge, out of softness, putting aside the penalty of a mauler or killer
    against the judge discriminating against a stranger or an orphan
    against the judge hearing one litigant in the absence of the other
    against appointing a judge who lacks knowledge of the Law
    against the court killing an innocent man
    against incrimination by circumstantial evidence
    against punishing for a crime committed under duress
    that the court is to administer the death penalty by the sword
    against anyone taking the law into his own hands to kill the perpetrator of a capital crime
    to testify in court
    against testifying falsely
    * This point is disagreed upon by different writers: “The Noahites are not restricted in this way but may judge singly and at once.”
    (Note: The Jewish Law, found in Deuteronomy 17:6, requires the testimony of 2 or 3 witnesses before one can be executed. In fact, the last sentence of verse 6 specifically states, “…he shall not be put to death on the evidence of one witness”. This should be our first clue that these seven Noahide Laws are nothing more than a clever counterfeit of God’s Ten Commandments)

    This paves the way for the “Lord” to be defined as to who they define as Lord, and those who don’t agree or who refuse to worship their Lord, will be beheaded.

    The penalty for violating any of these Noahide Laws is spelled out on page 1192 of the Encyclopedia Judaica, “… violation of any one of the seven laws subjects the Noahide to capital punishment by decapitation.” Wow, in other words, if one person steps forward to accuse a Gentile of violating any one of these seven laws, that testimony alone would be enough to decapitate the accused. A person could be put to death for the flimsy accusation of being cruel to animals, and based on the lying testimony of one person!! Notice, there is no assumption of innocence until proven guilty, nor of the prosecution having to prove their case. No, on the accusation of one person, the accused may be legally decapitated.

    Now let’s look at what Cutting Edge revealed about these Noahide Laws:

    We have become aware of one more development in the approach of AntiChrist. Before I tell you what this new development is, I feel the need to lay some groundwork of understanding first. Remember, when AntiChrist arises, he shall claim to be the advanced Christ Consciousness which came upon Buddha, Jesus, and Mohammed, in their respective historic period. AntiChrist will also claim to the Jewish Messiah for whom they have been waiting. Peter Lemusier makes it quite clear in his book, The Armageddon Script, that The Christ will have to fulfill all the Old Testament prophecies concerning the appearance of Messiah if he has any hope of deceiving Orthodox Jews. The main point to be grasped is that this False Messiah will claim to be Jewish, and an orthodox Jew at that. He will uphold the ancient Judaic Law and the Talmud. Keeping this information in your mind please consider the following news:

    Christian newsletter, “Don Bell Reports”, December 27, 1991, reported that, on March 20, 1991 President Bush signed into law a Congressional Joint Resolution entitled, “A Joint Resolution To Designate March 26, 1991, As Education Day, USA”. This joint resolution became Public Law 102-14. The title seems so innocuous that no one would think twice about it if they happened to just see it; however, this law is very sinister in its implications. It is typical of the New World Order Planners to devise innocent sounding words, phrases, and titles to mask their true intentions.

    Public Law 102-14 states emphatically that all civilization from the beginning has been based upon a set of laws entitled “The Seven Noahide Laws”. I bet you did not know this, did you? You probably believed that the Holy Bible was the basis upon which civilization was based. What are “The Seven Noahide Laws” and from whence did they come? These seven supposed universal laws, according to the Encyclopedia Americana, p. 737, state that they are “a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently, binding upon all mankind.” Don Bell correctly reports that these laws originated from the mystic (and Satanic) Babylonian Talmud, which no Christian has ever accepted as inspired sacred Scripture. In fact, the Talmud is that collection of man-made interpretations of the Pentateuch (Genesis through Deuteronomy) against which Jesus railed so intensely. The Talmud was taught as being equal with God’s inspired Word, even though the practical effect of its teachings were so often the exact opposite of what God had intended.

    However, the Encyclopedia Americana continues its explanation of the Noahide Laws, “Throughout the ages, scholars have viewed the Noahide Laws as a link between Judaism and Christianity, as universal norms of ethical conduct, as a basic concept of international law, or as a guarantee of fundamental human rights for all.” This explanation leaves one to believe that both Jews and Gentiles are bound by these seven laws; however, Don Bell reports from Jewish sources that the Jew who lives according to the Torah is exempt from these seven laws. In other words, these seven Noahide Laws were meant for the Gentiles only!! They are meant to be a substitute for the Ten Commandments. At this point, we need to briefly list these seven Noahide Laws.

    Thou shalt not engage in idol worship.
    Thou shalt not blaspheme God.
    Thou shalt not shed innocent blood of a human nor fetus nor ailing person who has a limited time to live.
    Thou shalt not engage in bestial, incestuous, adulterous, or homosexual relations nor commit…rape.
    Thou shalt not steal.
    Thou shalt establish laws and courts of law to administer these laws, including the death penalty for those who kill, administered only if there is one testifying eyewitness (Note: The Jewish Law, found in Deuteronomy 17:6, requires the testimony of 2 or 3 witnesses before one can be executed. In fact, the last sentence of verse 6 specifically states, “…he shall not be put to death on the evidence of one witness”. This should be our first clue that these seven Noahide Laws are nothing more than a clever counterfeit of God’s Ten Commandments).
    Thou shalt not be cruel to animals.

    The penalty for violating any of these Noahide Laws is spelled out on page 1192 of the Encyclopedia Judaica, “… violation of any one of the seven laws subjects the Noahide to capital punishment by decapitation.” Wow, in other words, if one person steps forward to accuse a Gentile of violating any one of these seven laws, that testimony alone would be enough to decapitate the accused. A person could be put to death for the flimsy accusation of being cruel to animals, and based on the lying testimony of one person!! Notice, there is no assumption of innocence until proven guilty, nor of the prosecution having to prove their case. No, on the accusation of one person, the accused may be legally decapitated.

    Now that I have your attention, let us examine further Public Law 102-14, which set the Noahide Laws as the basis for International Law, (read United Nations) to which all American law must conform. This public law singles out one Jewish group for special honor, saying that they embody the principles of these Noahide Laws. This group is the ultra-orthodox Lubavitch Movement, known for its strict adherence to the smallest detail of the Talmud. This group believes their head Rabbi, Menachem Scheerson, is the prophesied Messiah, and are anxiously waiting for him to publicly proclaim his office. This is such a small splinter religious group that very few Americans have ever heard of it; yet, the Congress and the President of the United States have declared in this law that this rabbi is “universally respected and revered” and that his Lubavitch movement has “fostered and promoted these seven Noahide Laws”. Don Bell again sheds much light upon this Lubavitch Movement, when he quotes Rabbi Louis Finkelstein, the head of the Jewish Theological Seminary of America in 1943, writing in the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, “Pharisaism became Talmudism…the spirit of the ancient Pharisee survives unaltered. When the Jew studies the Talmud, he is actually repeating arguments used in the Palestinian academies.” In other words, the Talmudic Lubavitchers are reborn Pharisees. Our listeners should immediately be alerted by this revelation, because, on July 17, 1993, we studied the beliefs of the Pharisees and discovered that they were occutlic. Many Pharisees belonged to the Jewish occult group, the Cabal, Satanic through and through. We studied that the Jewish Cabal forms a most important foundational building block upon which the entire New World Order movement is based. Finally, we showed how these Pharisees could hate Jesus Christ so vehemently, even in the face of His tremendous miracles. We understood how Jesus possessed such hatred of the teachings and the hypocrisy of the Pharisees. Once we understand that the Pharisee of Jesus’ day was involved in a Satanic secret society, we can understand how they could hate him so much.

    Then, on July 24, we studied how these Pharisees originated the Unpardonable Sin. They viewed the many supernatural miracles of Jesus and believed that He was able to accomplish these miracles because He was an Adept in the Egyptian Mysteries. He could, therefore, access the power of the occult. Jesus warned them not to ascribe His power to Satan, but they continued to do so, thus committing the Unpardonable Sin. To this day, secret societies continue to teach their members that Jesus could do His many miracles because He was an Adept in the occult.

    The Pharisees also succeeded in killing Jesus Christ on the basis that He blasphemed God, which is Noahide Law # 2. Remember Jesus’ words, in Matthew 10:24-25, that the disciples of the Master will be treated in just the same way as the Master has been treated. I wonder if this Scripture has any bearing upon this current situation? Public Law 102-14 sets the foundation for American and United Nations Law to be established in such a way as to uphold these Seven Noahide Laws. These seven laws are a counterfeit of the Ten Commandments, and are promoted by the Neo-Pharisee occult group, the Lubavitchers. Don Bell further states that the Lubavitchers are a “Mystic” group, thus signifying that they teach the Cabal as well as the Talmud. This revelation ties them directly into the secret societies of today which are powering the drive into the New World Order, i.e., the Illuminati, the Freemasons, and the Bilderberger Group, just to name a few. Thus, it would seem natural that these secret societies would look favorably upon a Mystic Jewish group, which has its active roots in the ancient Cabal, a group which is a soul-mate to today’s secret societies.

    Is Satan setting the stage where Christians could be legally charged with violation of Noahide Law, Number 2, of blaspheming God? Certainly, our doctrine that Jesus Christ is God in the flesh would constitute “blasphemy against God”, just as it did against Jesus. But, our punishment would be decapitation, a much more humane way to die than crucifixion. What does Scripture foretell as to the way in which true Christians will die in the Tribulation Period? Jesus reveals, in Revelation 20:4, that Christians in the Great Tribulation will be beheaded, i.e., decapitated, precisely the method proscribed by the Talmud. This is just one more instance in which the stage is apparently being set for the precise fulfillment of Biblical prophecy.

    http://www.cuttingedge.org/ce1090.html

    http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/noahide_laws.htm

    You know those suspicious mounds being built EVERYWHERE along our highways? Ive personally seen a dozen at least. You really can see them if you study the country side on a plane flight. or google earth them, I’ll post a few later. Some of those are NEW in the video. It is where they WILL place guillotines. WAKE UP PEOPLE.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14rLEwkKH0Y&feature=youtu.be

    on Guillotines (there really is a vast amount of info out there on the subject) Google “30,000 Guillotines” I’ll just post a couple, if you think it is “conspiracy wingnut lunacy” you’ll dismiss it, if not you’ll research it on your own. It is FACT.

    http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/06/29/why-does-the-government-need-guillotines/

    http://www.remnantofgod.org/guillotines.htm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T542_3J7N5w

    Fema camps? google it, so much 411 on the subject you must live under a rock if you don’t know the facts about that.
    Jesse did a few episodes, I will post that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln6qR3jSMRY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zca_hd9dFn4

    That Beck goes on with projects like “man on the moon” while all this is going on behind the scenes leads me to one conclusion, he is there like Alex Jones is there, to placate those of us that would otherwise but an END to this. He is “entertainment” and that is it.
    A yale flunkee, and a bonesman to boot, personally groomed by the NWO.

    I’ll end this post with this

    “Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.” Romans 12:19

    And given that we are to be harmless as doves and wise as serpents, and also we are not to lean unto our own understanding but on God, doing so we can then become WISER than serpents. We have three scenarios then.

    A. Confuse the enemy to the point they either turn and repent and then help undo what they did, or they become so confused and anxiety ridden they destroy themselves.

    B. We get destroyed ourselves not even putting up a fight.

    C. We give them HELL in an all out BLOODBATH.

    So that is where I am at with all this. A,B.or C. My carnal self wants C, Christ in me demands A, B WON’T happen. It is option C for me at that point. I’m so sick of television and the internet and posting comments, it is time for DO. I hope some of you take what I posted and gain a clearer picture of exactly how dire the times really are, the enemy is already here. The stench that is coming from D.C. is unbearable for me. I CAN’T STAND IT !!!

  • Socialism is Evil. Organized.

    As we are seeing more today, nefarious quacks have begun to argue that there is no need to limit the power of government officials because they have been chosen through democratic processes.

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  • Anonymous

    It is pretty clear what the 1st Amendant says about religion.

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”

    That is the problem with liberals, they csare more about freebies than freedom.

  • Anonymous

    Of course you get to choose what you want cover in your healthcare plan. Most people don’t choose birth control. Buy your own condoms. It takes a lot of nerve to demand that others people pay for your condoms.

  • Anonymous

    Who is talking about Comdoms we are talking about The Morning After Pill, Birth Control Pills that is up to a woman not here employer

  • Anonymous

    Free Birth Control Part of ACA Implementation

    WASHINGTON — The Department of Health
    and Human Services announced Monday it will require health insurance
    plans to offer a variety of preventive health measures for women at no
    charge — including birth control and HPV screenings — as part of the
    implementation of the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

  • twolazy

    ‘scuse me, but hasn’t this been covered already in the Constitution? How about just interpreting what it says quite clearly ? It does not say anything about any separation of anything.. what it says is the Federal Government can’t have an organized State religion .. period, so I wonder why the need for a new amendment?

  • Anonymous

    No one is paying? If the government gets a bill for all of these services then the government can send the bill to you alone. Don’t worry, the bill will be for $0.00.

    (hint: no it isn’t)

  • Defend The Constitution

    Those who oppose liberty work to discredit cultural evolution because it conflicts with their conceited notions of mankind’s limited reason.