Really? Firefighter ends up in handcuffs after responding to serious car accident

Yesterday, Glenn shared the story of an Iowa family whose home was raided by police after being suspected of credit card fraud. While the police did have a warrant to search the home for stolen goods, nothing was found and surveillance video shows the police used force entry to enter the home. The incident has led many to question if such extreme police action was necessary. On radio this morning, Glenn discussed another bizarre story, this time out of California, involving a firefighter being handcuffed after responding to a serious car accident.

“Number one story on The Blaze today, and it is causing quite honestly some tension here in the studio,” Glenn said. “The story is about this firefighter that parked his fire truck at the scene of a really nasty accident.”

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TheBlaze reports:

While responding to a Tuesday night rollover accident in Chula Vista, Calif., a police officer and firefighter got into a dispute over where the fire engine should park. It ended with the uniformed firefighter in handcuffs.

The California Highway Patrol officer reportedly ordered the firefighter, identified as Jacob Gregoir, to move the fire engine off the center divide or he would be arrested. As he worked the scene and checked the overturned car for more victims, he reportedly told the unidentified officer that he would have to check with his captain.

That’s when the officer decided to detain the firefighter instead.

According to UT San Diego, Gregoir — a fire service veteran of more than 12 years — parked the truck behind an ambulance to provide protection to the emergency responders from oncoming traffic. This is apparently a standard safety procedure fire crews are taught.

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The firefighter was reportedly put in the back of a CHP cruiser and detained for about half an hour before being released.

While Glenn feared this story was yet another example of growing police authority, Pat and Stu were less sure.

“I have a real problem with this,” Glenn said. “I think this is yet another sign our police are going dark.”

“It’s too general a statement,” Pat interjected. “It’s just way too general a statement.”

“You keep looking for these stories,” Stu added. “Well, in any group of 794,000, you are going to have some officers that are dark. Of course you are correct. We are looking at individual incidents. I think when you talk about the militarization, there’s a larger issue at play there I think you can talk about.”

Stu warned of the dangers of generalizing all police officers as bad or all police officers as good. Look no further than the antics of Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson when it comes to police relations in the black community to see the problems that arise from oversimplifying a particular incident.

“I know well enough to know you aren’t saying cops are bad, but it’s the same type of case made a career out of by Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson,” Stu said. “People get in this sort of generalization mode.”

Glenn was willing to concede that with the good comes the bad, but he was unwilling to relent on his belief the pattern is not trending in a positive direction.

“We’ve always had good cops and bad cops,” Glenn said. “I always said all cops aren’t good. Out of that pool, you are going to have bad people. So not everybody is good, but the general direction of our cops is good, and still is good, always has been good… but you are also seeing the militarization of our police force.”

“What changed in the American people’s psyche was at the Boston bombing when we saw, ‘Everyone stay in your house.’ And then the SWAT teams and the armored vehicles [rolled through],” he continued. “You have all of these small towns, big towns getting these military vehicles… Do you know you can buy a military helicopter for some of these towns for like $60,000… So you combine the cops overstepping the Constitution and their bounds… [with] the militarization of our police force and you have a very bad combination. How does that end?”

  • Draxx

    The Militarization of Police has been happening since at least the Watts Riots… Only the Absolute Politically Blind would not be able to see that is the reality!

  • Lucas Forde

    Militarization of police doesn’t work ask Germany, Russia, and North Korea.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Revan

    So they arrested someone for saving another life and that being his job. what in the hell is wrong with this country.

  • melhornh

    Fire the policeman!

  • Angry Patriot

    Police all over have a few who believe that the “Badge” gives them ultimate authority. This cop needs to be put on a 6 month “unpaid” leave until a thorogh psych evaluation is done! Then fire his butt!

  • Robert Rand

    There needs to be criminal penalties for Constitutional violations by public officials, elected, appointed or hired. If you violate an American citizen’s Constitutionally protected rights while in your official capacity, you should be held criminally liable.

  • Angry Patriot

    Agreed, that is an excellent point.

  • GeoInSD

    To paraphrase Bill Clinton, it depends on what the meaning of “work” is. To carry out the goals and directives of an authoritarian central government, a militarized police is probably quite effective.

  • Robert Rand

    I have a family member in law enforcement who has no business carrying a gun with his wartime induced PTSD if you believe the left. However, he is actually a good cop, piss poor family member, but a good cop.

  • DogWithoutSlippers

    POWERPLAY!~

  • Fat Lip

    The first seed was planted in CA. long ago nobody caught them and now we have the new USSCA

  • wildchill

    Like all walks of life, you can find bad apples in every type of work. The problem is that it takes so much more to cull the bad ones once they are in law enforcement .especially if they are union.

  • Cynthia Banks

    Robert Rand I afraid you may be right. It really has come to this.

  • Cynthia Banks

    Now you’re talking abuse of power is out of control and I am and LAPD widow whose first husband was killed in the line of duty,

  • rrchesnutt

    It is happening more and more now, these Cops are turning into control freaks to make us, the public think they are the ultimate power on the street. They will let 5 blacks beat-up on two whites here in Austin, and nothing is hardly mentioned. But if you now question some cops you are in the wrong and arrested. It is just another way to put more men in the criminal system with records which can be used against us later. This is not a free place to live anymore. We have very little time left.

  • Speak2Truth

    These penalties are already spelled out in law. For example, if two or more people conspire to deprive you of your Right to keep and bear arms and a massacre occurs in a place where they have enforced that prohibition, you can charge them under Federal law and seek the death penalty against them.

    Perhaps too few Americans are aware they have standing…

    18 USC § 241 – Conspiracy against rights
    If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or
    If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—
    They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

  • johnhorse

    I DON’T Trust ANY Cop anymore and a time is coming when a cop is going to Over step his authority and find himself in very deep scat that was waiting for him to cross over the line.

  • Hal Lowther

    The fire department has authority at a fire or potential fire, a leaking gas tank of a car in an accident. The police were wrong.

  • benj4min

    But that has nothing to do with this story…..

  • benj4min

    Your comment is borderline incomprehensible, and also unrelated. One person’s abuse of power has nothing to do with another’s choice either good or bad. The officer in question here should be terminated at worst, and spend unpaid leave at a minimum.

  • kjenkinsaf

    Maybe a better “punishment” would be mandatory remediation with the Fire Department with whom the “infraction” occurred. Bet he comes out changed… or bruised.

  • WhatConstitution

    I have to agree with Glenn. The militarization of our police is getting out of hand. And I’m not talking about arms or vehicles. I’m talking about attitude. There have always been bad cops but the problem now days is more and more cops are usurping the power of their badge and becoming something more like vigilante cops. A law unto themselves and they really don’t like it when someone stands up to them, videos them or points out the error of their ways in any way shape or form.

    As for Stu and Pat, I agree that one shouldn’t jump to generalizations but when talking about todays city cops the time to worry about generalizing or stereotyping has come and gone. To me it is just like the cannard about profiling. You can’t profile if all you are doing is examining the facts.

  • Cynthia Banks

    Benjamin, I have been watching this for a number of years now. My late husband Norm Eckles, worked with the FBI DEA, and all local fire and police on and off duty. They didn’t rush to judgment they shut their mouth and opened their ears back then. I suggest you go to youtube and look at the abuse of power, violence and over reaction of law enforcement across this nation. I also have a son-in-law who was LA Sheriffs retired and a son -in-law who is a sergeant on Folsom PD. I respect the police, but Law Enforcement needs to reign their officers. Train the better and legal rights for citizens need to be considered.

  • benj4min

    This goes back to the borderline incomprehensible portion…. THAT response was clearly readable, and understandable. But your first response was interpreted as taking this story as a personal attack on your late husband. My reply was stating that one person’s bad choice was unrelated to the actions of your late husband. I think we can all agree that police as a whole are understanding less and less that they are an executive authority under the constitution (both Federal and State), and have been delegated their power BY the people. Therefore, they cannot have any authority which does not belong to the people who are delegating that responsibility to them.

  • Bill Norris

    I don’t want to believe it, but I fear Glenn is on to something. Yes there are good cops and bad cops. The big difference usually manifests itself in bad ways. But any cop, good or bad, that thinks arresting a fireman on duty is the logical thing to do is either insane or receiving training from Homeland Security. DHS is way too involved in local law enforcement. The Iowa family doesn’t make sense either. Who busts the door down for credit card fraud? There’s been dozens of incidents like this. What if the owner was sitting there cleaning his rifle after going hunting? He would’ve been shot multiple times and his family could’ve been hurt or killed too.

  • savannarose55

    i miss the police that use to stand behind their people and make sure they didnt get in trouble and helped show your kids right from wrong, made sure people were safe and were helpful, where are the sheriff taylors from mayberry at……..

  • Cynthia Banks

    Well it appears you jumped to a conclusion. I was stating my husband tie to LAPD, as I had an informed opinion. I believe these officers are being trained this way. The Obama administration has been pouring great deals of money into law enforcement, and is actually forming the military he had talked about in his campaign in 2008. These officers, are different then any kind of officers I have seen since the holocaust. They are muscle and power everywhere. They are kick ass and ask questions later. Look at Boston. Look these officers in IOWA what department sends out ten officers on simple theft search warrant. Your neighborhood could be next. These guys are dangerous.

  • http://WWW.SPIRITOFAMERICAPARTYRADIOSHOW.COM TOM P O’DONNELL

    THE COP WAS WRONG BUT THAT IS NOT THE AVERAGE COP. YOU SHOULD SEE WHAT THEY HAVE LIVE WITH.

  • Bill Norris

    I learned something today. However, under our current justice department I wouldn’t expect Holder to do much of anything.

  • serts

    That is what that section says, and believe me when I say these people deserve punishment beyond a civil judgement if one can be so lucky to get one, but I’m not sure the intent of this law was to be interpreted in that way. And even if you did I think you would have to show there was intent to cause such massacres, which would be difficult to do. I feel the only way to address these injustices is with new legislation.

  • JudyBeth

    The Policeman should have called in to his precinct, so ‘somebody’ who is INFORMED would have told him about the EMS/Fire Truck Safety Policy! Thank goodness, a care gas tank did not explode while the Fireman was cuffed! CA -get your ACT together, pleeeez before somebody dies!

  • ronneeh

    Boy Glenn you are such a crape hanger.

  • stopspending4

    ….

  • stopspending4

    Ben’s first comment was correct – your first post was impossible to understand. when you post, read before you send and make sure you are actually saying what you think you are saying so we can all understand you

  • jmaster67

    The reason people think so many police are corrupt is that when something like this happens everyone related to a police officer and the department come to the defense of the officer. In Oklahoma a couple of years ago an OHP officer puled over an ambulance driver harassed him and choked him. If these officers who pulled this crap were dismissed automatically it would put to rest any doubts about the veracity of the police. Instead, the bad cops get encouraged and the police dept. gets a more tarnished image because very little if anything is done to the offending officer.

  • Cruorem Angelus

    I was an EMT in Wisconsin in the 90s and it was SOP to use the fire trucks as protection.

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    The fish rots from the head on down. Who’s the big fish in this country right now?

  • CarnactheMagnificent

    Please go to: http://www.policemisconduct.net/ and make your own judgment! I personally feel the numbers are out of proportion with the general population!

  • Cynthia Banks

    Is it clear now, and what wasn’t reported is it was CHP, which have a reputation for not getting along with other agencies. They think the highway belongs to them alone. Stop your criticism is taken.

  • Jim Shmitka

    A BJ in the oval office is not WORK,but enjoyable at least !!

  • Cynthia Banks

    but also why aren’t addressing the real issue. So easy to obfuscate this day in age. change the subject. The subject is abuse of power. In this case now that I have seen the arrest, he’s a complete idiot. It’s all over Yahoo’ front page.

  • Jim Shmitka

    LOTS OF SCUM BAGS IN OR OUT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT

  • rickpop

    I was always under the impression that at a fire scene it was the firefighter that was in charge not the cops? So why was the firefighter hand cuffed?

  • Slayer88

    Many police departments now administer IQ tests to new recruits or those being considered for the academy. If you score too high you are not accepted, they want moldable, compliant jack-boots, not free thinkers that won’t “just follow orders”. My brother was denied a position in a city in Arizona for this reason. He scored very well on the test and then was given the IQ portion. He was denied because he scored over their threshold. These cops are being trained right alongside, in many instances, with military and special forces types. The days of the friendly neighborhood beat cop are just about up.

  • Slayer88

    The job of Cop doesn’t even make the top 10 for most dangerous jobs. And if it does, it’s at the bottom. When they start holding public memorial services for truck drivers and fisherman and others that face real danger day in and day out, THEN I may care to “see what they live with”….

  • http://WWW.SPIRITOFAMERICAPARTYRADIOSHOW.COM TOM P O’DONNELL

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  • Quest8

    As a former EMT here in California, I always thought the first responder had the control of the scene. Usually that is the hwy patrol. Then it falls to who has the most med experience. A EMT will always usually yeild to a doctor. As far as using the emergency equipment to protect the scene that is exactly what it is doing and the officer was way out of line unless the equipment was indangering life and or property. But hey, how many of us have goofed up doing our jobs? Unfortunately an officers job is making snap decisions when and when not to handcuff someone. My time with the fire dept. police were always strong allies and comrades 100% of the time. Then again this was back in the early 70′s when life was simple and good. I do fear very much the militization of the police. I have a strong respect for them, should they take that path I fear for their safety. They will get away with it for awhile. But the people will only take it so long. Anger and fighting back is not the answer. Instead, we are where we are because of free will and choice. By not standing up and saying No, we say yes by consent. If our gov is full of lying thieves. We have a choice to go with our original gov that was taken from us over 200 years ago and re formed 3 years ago ( just do a search for Republic of what ever state you are from. Like here would be republic of California). Choose to help them become what is rightfully ours and get away from this illeagle corporate gov.

  • wandrako

    Almost every day there are stories of the police sneaking around looking into windows of law abiding families and then break down a door and come in without warrants and shoot small animals that are not trying to attack, shooting and/or arresting the family members for resisting arrests when there was no reason for the police being there at all. Many times breaking in during the night with the wrong house or some minor charge that turned out to not be true. All they had to do was knock on the door yet they use armored vehicles, heavy equipment and terrorize the citizens. Stop this training and mindset now. We are not all crooks and need some safety in our homes from our lawless government.

  • Wilks

    Why is there no one in the CT legislator in jail then for the “gun free zone” in Newtown?

  • Johnathan Read

    “in any group of 794,000, you are going to have some officers that are dark. ”

    1 out of 794,000, is one too many.Unfortunately they are protected by their Unions.

  • wandrako

    Obama said in his first year that he wanted a military force inside the country as the one outside. We are seeing it being built and put to use. There was another article yesterday of a federal department buying up huge amounts of ammo yet it is a dept that has no reason for any. This man will have destroyed the country, sewn unrest and distrust of all citizens by the time he gets out IF he ever leaves office.

  • ItalianScallion

    Why does Glenn always dump on cops? Maybe he wanted to be one , but couldnt cut the mustard.

  • montana3802

    I have to agree with Glenn in the fact that the cops I see in the area I live I wouldn’t trust them as far as I could throw them. They all have the Wyatt Earp syndrome.

  • Jim S.

    It boils down to the GOOD cops protecting the BAD cops… thus they ALL become bad cops… sad but even truer with these union thugs with badges.

  • ConservativeSenior

    The miserable excuse for POTUS breaks any law he wants to and has committed treason. No one stops him. So, why should anyone follow the law?

  • kktex12

    This typical in Mexifornia.

  • Cornflower

    Another example of the attitude of law enforcement changing occurred a couple of years ago. I was visiting at the home of someone, whom the swat team decided to invade. There were several members of the swat team who were actually laughing during the destruction of the home’s contents. There were two grade school aged children witnessing this. The swat team took a shoe box with family photos in it a poured over a cup of some liquid over it. They took a framed photo of an elderly family member and repeatedly smashed it underfoot. The worst part of it was the laughter from the officers while they were breaking things. Of course they stole several items too. There is the intimidation factor. What can a person do with such injustice? They’ll only do worse next time.

  • Slayer88

    Do you have anything at all intelligent to say? Anything?

  • Tim K

    I can’t speak to every law enforcement agency in the US, but I can, as a peace officer of 25 years-plus experience, speak directly to your contention of militarization in my Department. My Department is concerned we might be perceived as a paramilitary law enforcement agency, so years of pleading for a more comfortable and task-friendly uniform has continually fallen on deaf ears—BDU’s look too GI Joe.
    Instead, we wear basically the same costly, uncomfortable, and
    constraining uniform that was worn by officers when the Department was created 84 years ago. Imagine how a request would be handled for truly military equipment.

    I’ll offer no argument to the allegation that there are police officers that have exceeded their authority under the law. I’ll further wager that no one can offer a valid argument that the percentage of all police officers who act contrary to their oath is even remotely close to a proportionate percentage of private sector employees who are required to conform to their employer’s established rules of conduct. When people divorce law enforcement officers from society, they apply a separatist viewpoint to assess their worthiness. That only serves to exacerbate the people’s feeling of alienation from their public servants.

    The CHP officer was within his authority under the law. He was the Incident Commander at the scene of the traffic collision. This does not in any way lessen the officer’s responsibility to act prudently, and always in the interest of public safety. However, the officer is charged with command of the incident, which includes the safety of more than the accident victims and EMS personnel, because other, uninvolved, motorists are subject to the hazards of a blocked roadway and the dynamic properties of any collision scene.

    Should the officer have handcuffed the fireman at the scene of the collision? None of us yet know the extent of the exchange between the officer and fireman, and we do not know the specific hazard the officer perceived that led him to order the fire truck moved, but that same order has been given countless times before, by countless officers, including me. The scope of the fire department’s responsibilities included initial treatment of the injured and prevention of further injury, prevention of injury to EMS personnel, suppression of any fire ignited by the collision, and containment of any release of hazardous materials. This is a big responsibility and I personally respect what firemen are regularly called to do.

    The officer, however, is incident commander. He or she is ultimately responsible for assuring those same objects are performed; but the
    responsibility he or she shoulders goes much further. He must assure the
    safety of innocent motorists, investigate the collision, coordinate tow
    vehicles, facilitate traffic control, arrange road crews for necessary repair
    work, and restore the orderly resumption of safe and efficient traffic flow. All of this must be accomplished in the shortest time possible to avoid a greater hazard.

    Would I have handcuffed the fireman? Probably not. But I have the advantage of many years on the job, the experience of witnessing shouting matches between contentious agencies at an emergency incident–they never end well–and the knowledge that, if the argument is not positively life-threatening, a word to my Commander and a letter from him or her to the allied agency usually accomplishes a satisfactory and mutually acceptable modification of policy to address the issue, and all without a public spectacle.

    Those who immediately labeled the officer as racist, jack-booted, militant, an affirmative action hire–and therefore unqualified for his position,
    hot-headed, ignorant, Nazi, ad infinitum, should be ashamed. What should
    be considered is that the millions–that’s right, millions–of CHP contacts
    with civilians every year result in a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of
    that total in complaints (most unfounded). Talk radio hosts who do not consider the totality of the circumstances before lambasting law enforcement at large do an enormous disservice to their listeners; moreover, in their relatively short diatribe, they promote a degree of animosity in the public that far outlasts the speech that engendered it.

    Finally, I respectfully suggest Mr. Beck might benefit from a visit to the California Highway Patrol Academy in Sacramento. There, in the
    center of the quadrangle, is a fountain, and on the base of that fountain a sea of small brass rectangles. Each is significant in that they all bear
    the name of a CHP officer. All were killed while performing their duty
    under the oath of their office, while serving the citizens of the state of
    California. Among that host of enumerated dead are three plates inscribed with the names of my friends. They’re long gone now, but will never be forgotten.

  • Matt

    Well, I guess that just goes to show you how appropriate it is for those living in California to stay there. Please, don’t bring your jacked up way of doing things past say Nevada? Really. Stay there. Pick the joint back up, grab your glass of whatever alcoholic beverage you have diluting with the ice in your glass and go back to Never-Never land thinking. Just don’t come any farther east. You’ve already screwed up Colorado. Stop there.

  • angie2602

    I am beginning to see the police overstep their bounds in my local area. They are stopping people for someone being in the back seat and moving around???? They make things up to stop people and look in their cars. How do you stop this type of behavior from getting out of control? Who is going to challenge the officer and win? They can pull anyone over without merit, and say you crossed the yellow line. I am not making this stuff up. It is happening in my area. I know the police are there to protect me, but who is going to protect me from the police? If your pulled over for anything, its your word against the officers. If you didn’t do anything wrong how do you prove it? I believe the police force is getting out of control and drunk on power.

  • angie2602

    Holder is useless, A poor excuse for an AG. He is a puppet in this administration and him and Obama conspire far to much to impead on our constitutional rights. Holder is a liar and is hiding and delaying justice in the running guns case, he is in contempt of court, but nothing is happening to him. Not to meantion his interference in the IRS and NSA scandals. He personally went after Fox reporters and he knows it. I think he is abusing his power of office and I can’t wait to see him go. He is the worst AG we have ever had. And Obama…..ughhhh need I say more?

  • angie2602

    Oh my Gosh I am so sorry for your loss Cynthia. I am not touting all police officers are corrupt, but I think we all know a few that are. I am so sorry you lost your husband in the line of duty. I am thankful for police officers that do their job and protect our streets and communities. I am thankful to you also, this was not only a sacrifice your husband endured, but you and your family as well. I am grateful. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

  • ken.

    i no longer deal with the police here in phoenix due to the constant harassment. i have a male neighbor ( a school teacher ) who constantly makes sexual gestures at me and antagonizes me. called the police and all they do is make crude childish schoolyard jokes at my expense. one female cop told me that it was no different then someone waving hello. i got a court order against harassment and the cop serving the papers after making the same crude jokes tried to convince me that me and the pervert were exactly alike and had everything in common and that we should be best friends. then he told me not to call when he violates the court order because they don’t want to deal with it. i have also called to report crimes and after they arrested the people they tried to turn it on me saying that i was just trying to get rid of my competition. i don’t need to go into the problems the police gave me when i had problems with some of the illegal aliens causing trouble. i am now my own police when i need them, i take care of the problems myself. much more peaceful here at home without the police getting involved. avoid them as much as you can.

  • Slayer88

    You sound like loads of fun. You should read How to make friends and influence people, might help you.

  • nancyj1922

    This foolish cop could have cost the accident victim their life and should face fines. If a person wandered up and interfered with a fireman doing his job, I am sure they would end up in the squad car.

  • USNbubblehead

    In most cases, the police and firefighters work together as equals, without any conflict. If the firefighter was following department policy, he was perfectly correct in referring this back to his captain. The officer should have gone up the chain of command at that point.

    Of course we don’t know the details of how this went down; how the cop acted, how the firefighter reacted. For all we know, the firefighter could have been a complete d!ck, and the officer decided to show him which way the mop flops, who knows? Still, it looks like a three ring circus when public safety officials bicker and fight at an emergency scene. Doing stuff like that works to erode public confidence, which is a serious thing.

  • USNbubblehead

    What it comes down to, often, is the policies set by the police chief. Often the best police departments have chiefs that are elected, not hired by a city council or appointed by a mayor or commissioner. We had one small town not far from here that got so fed up, they did away with their out-of-control police force altogether. Now they are policed by state troopers.

    The police in my home town became famous throughout the northern New England tri-state area for their harassing, heavy-handed ways. We even used to have a saying about this:

    “Velcome to Dover, papers please!”

    Luckily for Dover N.H. residents, karma is alive and well. The chief’s home was raided by a multi-departmental task force, where they arrested his drug dealer son. We soon had a new chief, and things got better.

  • rank

    Not having all of the facts it is hard to say if the police officer, or the fireman acted foolishly…. and being that I do not have a rose garden to have a beer summit I guess this should be handle between the police and fire dept. higher ups. Plus this is California! I am glad that our police and fire departments still work together, and do not use military tactics… yet.

  • ken.

    by the content of your post you need it more then i do.

  • rank

    Nope… he is probably empty ear to ear.

  • rank

    Because only the cops have handcuffs.

  • rank

    The truckers and fishermen deal with mother nature elements. Police have to deal with the druggies and illegals and other criminal elements. You could not pay me enough to be a cop in today’s real world. There are rogues in all walks of life. I believe most police and firemen are professionals. May I point to 9/11/01 and ask would you have done what those brave people did knowing that certain death was in the offering?

  • Difcan’s Avatar

    Yea, well aiding and abetting known global terrorist groups and supporting self proclaimed enemies of the united states with billions of tax payer money, fighter jets and tanks, could be considered high treason. Also punishable by death… Right?

  • Difcan’s Avatar

    Right! Should also probably be pretty stiff consequences for fraudulating an entire campaign for the leader of our nation, just sayin.

  • Difcan’s Avatar

    Still a chance that we get Obama and Holder till our doom. By the time they are gone, so too will we.

  • alleycat22

    You mean like lying and covering up all kinds of crap just before a presidential election, or standing in front of the American public and knowingly lie?? Stuff like that?? I agree!!

  • blackwingA520

    We are in the “SA” (Sturmabteilung) or assault division (Brownshirts) phase mirroring old Nazi Germany, can’t wait until Obummer gets to his SS “Schutzstaffel” phase, we all know how THEY treated dissenters and what happened to the leaders of the Brownshirts in the end. If you don’t know, look it up! History is surely repeating itself and Obummer will see to it.

  • Difcan’s Avatar

    Jinx, 12345678910 double jinx!!

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  • Bonnie Somer

    When our rights r threatened it is up to us to do what we must. Our govt now obviously is in tyranny mode and the Hitler in the WH is not letting up. WE THE PEOPLE WILL NOT BE GONE IT WILL NOT BE TOO LATE THE OPPOSITE MUST BE DONE BUT WE ARE SMART WE AS AMERICANS AT LEAST MOST OF US, DO NOT GIVE UP FREEDOM FOR A LIAR AND MARXIST THUSLY WE WILL PREVAIL. MAY 16TH BE IN DC

  • Cynthia Banks

    Thank you wandrako, you are right the training and procedures need to return to standard police procedures. These are not standard they are over the top gustapo tactics. Mr. Obama’s new army, of law enforcement. He promised it, we got it. And the frightening thing is these officers don’t seem to know they are doing anything wrong.

  • jonPU57

    Even before this “militarization” of the police we have had incidents of jurisdictional conflict between public safety departments (some seem to forget that phrase, public safety). In NYC, over the years, there have been disputes between police and fire in rescue situations – both on the rivers and in the buildings. I can’t remember if any resulted in deaths, but we can be sure they resulted in more damage than there would have been.

    Why they are so jealous of their jurisdictions I can’t say, perhaps it has to do with union contracts and a desire to protect their “turf” – and thereby enhance their bargaining power. Perhaps it is the divorcement from “community policing” where officers know the neighborhoods and the people. Perhaps any one of many other things.

    In any situation involving inherent danger to the public – accidents, storms, fires, etc.- the public safety should supercede the enforcement of the law or the “rules”. There was a classic situation in NYC a couple of years ago. A couple of EMTs were on lunch break and were in a take-out joint with their ambulance parked outside. A customer had a heart attack (or some other emergency). When asked to help the EMTs called 911 as they were off duty. The patient died (this is not web gossip, it was covered extensively by the local press).

    When public servants feel that their primary responsibility is to the rules of their department rather than the immediate needs of the situation we lose all the meaning of public service.

  • http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

    glenn’s right here.

  • Rick

    Cops and firemen at times argue with one another as emotions and even tempers flare during a given incident where both departments find themselves assisting the public and in each other’s way. Usually only words are said and then apologies are rendered at some later point perhaps when supervisors arrive with calmer heads prevailing. For a cop to lock up a fireman on the scene could be evidence of the fireman running his mouth or maybe challenging or threatening the PO’s authority verbally. Maybe the cop was concerned the truck was in the path of oncoming traffic and thus causing a large traffic jam. I don’t know. For such an unusual action taken one needs more of the story to render an opinion. Keep in mind, cops and firemen are always working together and watch each other’s back. Have the Blaze follow up and get a comment.

  • Glenn Hart

    There is a provision in Federal law for civil lawsuit against public officials.

    See:42 U.S. Code § 1983 – Civil action for deprivation of rights

    Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation,
    custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia,
    subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States
    or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of
    any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and
    laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in
    equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any
    action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken
    in such officer’s judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be
    granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief
    was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress
    applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered
    to be a statute of the District of Columbia.

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  • Pat Kiker

    robert can you post this to facebook?? more people need to know this!

  • Anonymous

    The place to fix this should be as local as possible, preferably no higher than the state level. State crimes codes are full of offenses of this nature, such as ‘color of authority’. ‘misprission’, official oppression, etc. The Federal Government has been riding roughshod on the states at least since Ruby Ridge, usurping more and more authority.

    In the instant case, if events occurred as portrayed, whether or not the police officer’s order was lawful means less than the oath he or she swore, for ALL OFFICIAL AUTHORITY rests on such oath of office.

    The police officer is likely to experience a major change in career path, be it suspension, reassignment, early retirement or (as is too often the case) promotion.