Dana Loesch filled in for Glenn on Wednesday’s Glenn Beck Program, and she was joined by former Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) to discuss a range of topics including the Supreme Court’s ruling in Burwell vs. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc., Senator Thad Cochran’s (R-MS) marginal win over Chris McDaniel in Mississippi, and our current foreign policy nightmare.

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On Monday, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of religious freedom – deciding Obamacare cannot force for-profit, closely held companies to violate their religious beliefs by paying for emergency contraceptive coverage that could lead to abortions. Dana asked Paul how he feels about the ruling, and he explained it is an issue of Americans understanding their rights.

“It’s to me such a shame that we are going through this thing… If we lived in a free society, and we recognized a more concise definition of rights, these kind of debates wouldn’t go on,” Paul explained. “But, you know, once you grant too much power to government to issue mandates – which is nothing more than the destruction of liberty of certain individuals – then you have these detailed minutiae arguments about how you regain a little bit of our freedoms.”

Paul reiterated that until the American people have a better “understanding of what rights are” and what “mandates we shouldn’t have,” this “agony” will continue.

Last month, Paul supported Mississippi State Senator Chris McDaniel (R) in his quest to unseat four decade long incumbent Senator Thad Cochran (R-MS). While, McDaniel won the popular vote in the Republican primary in early June, he failed to reach the 50% threshold needed to avoid a runoff. After dumping millions of dollars and resources into the race, the establishment triumphed in the runoff, with Cochran narrowly beating McDaniel.

“I’m always looking for good things coming out of bad things, and it’s a bad scene over there,” Paul said of Mississippi. “But the good that’s coming out of it is it shows the Republican leadership’s true colors that they are liberal Democrats, and they’ll do anything to make sure that any challenge from a conservative libertarian viewpoint will be punished. And this should be an enlightenment.”

Paul said he hopes this election will signal a “realignment” of the party system that sees the “libertarian constitutional wing” of the Republican Party coming together with “the anti-corporatism and the pro-peace section” of the Democratic Party to form a “coalition.”

Finally, on the topic of foreign policy, Paul lamented the “two choices” America has decided between for too long.

“Our national interests are best served by staying out of it, not spending the money, not losing any lives, and bringing our troops home,” Paul said. “We’ve only had two choices… If they do what we tell them, we give them a lot of money. If they don’t do what we tell them, we invade them and kill them and bomb them. And I’d like another option: Just be friends with them, trade with them, and stay out of their business.”