David Barton tells Glenn he thinks the Third Great Awakening has now begun

August 31, 2015

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On his flight back to Dallas from Birmingham Sunday, Glenn was talking to David Barton about the Restoring Unity events they had just concluded. At one point, David said just matter-of-factly, "we're in the awakening." Glenn had to do a double take. "What did you just say?" Glenn asked.

Watch Glenn recount the conversation and get his reaction below.

Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors.

GLENN: The people that were there -- when we went into the coliseum, the arena, and that was electric. I heard from so many people -- I don't know if you guys heard this or felt this, but the people that I talked to that had gone to all of our events said by far this was the most impactful event we had ever done.

PAT: I heard that many times.

GLENN: I think this is -- I think we're at the beginning. I flew back with David Barton yesterday. And David said, just matter-of-factly, he said, we're in the awakening. And I said, I leaned up and I said, hold on. What did you just say. And he said, we're in the awakening. And I said, the third great awakening? And he said, oh, yeah. I truly believe it's happening now. That's great that's great. He's the one that told me about the great awakening. He's like, we need the great awakening to happen. And we had people of all different faiths walking together.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: I mean I marched with -- you know, that famous picture of the Woolworth's. Lunch counter. The guy is sitting at the counter. Clarence Henderson was one of the guys sitting at that counter. I found out -- I was giving speech -- I don't remember, one of the 18 speeches I gave this weekend. And I think it was at the Guiding Light Church. And somebody came up to me right before and said, that guy, do you know who he is? I'm like, no. He was the 18-year-old kid at the lunch counter in the 1960s. And showed me the picture.

And I'm like, oh, my gosh, I've seen that picture in our history books all the time. And he's the guy that marched next to me. He's the nicest guy. And I said, why are you doing this? He said, because a friend of mine told me -- he comes from Greensboro, North Carolina. And he drove down by himself to go. And I said, what made you do this? He said, it's time. It's just time. We have to come together or we're going to tear each other apart. Isn't that fantastic?

STU: It's great. I mean, it was nothing compared to the Black Lives Matter.

GLENN: Yeah. Of course.

PAT: 350 people. 350.

STU: I kind of screwed that up. Because we were talking before we went on the air, and I told you it was 350 people as reported by the media. Kind of was wrong on that. We should give them a little more credit. 325. So legitimately they reported at 325.

GLENN: Well, that's the media saying 325. It was probably 350.

STU: Maybe. PJ Media pointed this out brilliantly, which was, in Minnesota, 325 people marched. Reuters has a story about it. Reuters. And then the coverage of All Lives Matter, you've got 20,000 people. And it's good coverage, but by local Alabama -- local Alabama media, which is great. I'm glad they did it.

But it's like, why would a 20,000-person rally where you have a conservative host, who we're told all the time that conservatives and African-Americans can't get along, speaking at multiple African-American churches, where crowds are filled with black, white, every color, marching in unity.

PAT: That's exactly why didn't cover it.

GLENN: They need us to be apart.

PAT: Yep.

GLENN: They'll say, we didn't know about it. That's the first thing. The only national coverage that I saw besides PJ Media, which I didn't know. The only national coverage that I saw was Mediaite, which is a New York-based media website that people who are in the media read.

So Mediaite covered it on Saturday. So they all knew. All these journalists, they all knew. They dealt -- what -- the next logical excuse besides I didn't know was -- or would be, well, good news doesn't sell. That's what they'll say. We need conflict. The editors, well, there's no conflict there. Yeah, well, here's the conflict, good versus evil.

JEFFY: A perfect example of that, the main picture of the Alabama website for Restoring Unity was the march and everyone holding God is the answer, courage, justice, and the cover of the Black Lives Matter picture is, Black Lives Matter protesters chant, pigs in a bacon, fry them like bacon. Good versus evil. Unbelievable.

PAT: Yeah, we have that audio.

VOICE: Pigs in a blanket! Fry them like bacon! Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon! Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon!

GLENN: See, here's the thing, Martin Luther King knew that when it came down to it -- and I've told you this for years. When it comes down to it, we have to be able to A, B compare. You have to give the American people a choice. So we had people from all different faiths. One of the leaders from the Southern Baptist Convention was there. Leaders from all different churches were there. Pastors, priests. All marching together. All different colors. At one point, Alveda was leading the march and singing Jesus Loves the Little Children. Now, are you going to go with that, pigs in a blanket fry them -- whatever they were saying.

STU: Fry them like bacon. When you're in the middle of this controversial time when we're told we're at such odds with each other, here's an opportunity to celebrate two different groups coming together and everyone having a great time, no arrests.

GLENN: No arrests.

STU: There was no throwing things at cops. There was no anger. It was just people coming together in a wonderful way for an entire weekend of service. And, you know, do you get that from Reuters. Do you get that from national media at all? No, you get 325 people walking around threatening pigs lives. That's what you get. That gets coverage.

The Woodrow Wilson strategy to get out of Mother’s Day

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I’ve got a potentially helpful revelation that’s gonna blow the lid off your plans for this Sunday. It’s Mother’s Day.

Yeah, that sacred day where you’re guilt-tripped into buying flowers, braving crowded brunch buffets, and pretending you didn’t forget to mail the card. But what if I told you… you don’t have to do it? That’s right, there’s a loophole, a get-out-of-Mother’s-Day-free card, and it’s stamped with the name of none other than… Woodrow Wilson (I hate that guy).

Back in 1914, ol’ Woody Wilson signed a proclamation that officially made Mother’s Day a national holiday. Second Sunday in May, every year. He said it was a day to “publicly express our love and reverence for the mothers of our country.” Sounds sweet, right? Until you peel back the curtain.

See, Wilson wasn’t some sentimental guy sitting around knitting doilies for his mom. No, no, no. This was a calculated move.

The idea for Mother’s Day had been floating around for decades, pushed by influential voices like Julia Ward Howe. By 1911, states were jumping on the bandwagon, but it took Wilson to make it federal. Why? Because he was a master of optics. This guy loved big, symbolic gestures to distract from the real stuff he was up to, like, oh, I don’t know, reshaping the entire federal government!

So here’s the deal: if you’re looking for an excuse to skip Mother’s Day, just lean into this. Say, “Sorry, Mom, I’m not celebrating a holiday cooked up by Woodrow Wilson!” I mean, think about it – this is the guy who gave us the Federal Reserve, the income tax, and don’t even get me started on his assault on basic liberties during World War I. You wanna trust THAT guy with your Sunday plans? I don’t think so! You tell your mom, “Look, I love you, but I’m not observing a Progressive holiday. I’m keeping my brunch money in protest.”

Now, I know what you might be thinking.

“Glenn, my mom’s gonna kill me if I try this.” Fair point. Moms can be scary. But hear me out: you can spin this. Tell her you’re honoring her EVERY DAY instead of some government-mandated holiday. You don’t need Wilson’s permission to love your mom! You can bake her a cake in June, call her in July, or, here’s a wild idea, visit her WITHOUT a Woodrow Wilson federal proclamation guilting you into it.

Shocking Christian massacres unveiled

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Is a Christian Genocide unfolding overseas?

Recent reports suggest an alarming escalation in violence against Christians, raising questions about whether these acts constitute genocide under international law. Recently, Glenn hosted former U.S. Army Special Forces Sniper Tim Kennedy, who discussed a predictive model that forecasts a surge in global Christian persecution for the summer of 2025.

From Africa to Asia and the Middle East, extreme actions—some described as genocidal—have intensified over the past year. Over 380 million Christians worldwide face high levels of persecution, a number that continues to climb. With rising international concern, the United Nations and human rights groups are urging protective measures by the global community. Is a Christian genocide being waged in the far corners of the globe? Where are they taking place, and what is being done?

India: Hindu Extremist Violence Escalates

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In India, attacks on Christians have surged as Hindu extremist groups gain influence within the country. In February 2025, Hindu nationalist leader Aadesh Soni organized a 50,000-person rally in Chhattisgarh, where he called for the rape and murder of all Christians in nearby villages and demanded the execution of Christian leaders to erase Christianity. Other incidents include forced conversions, such as a June 2024 attack in Chhattisgarh, where a Hindu mob gave Christian families a 10-day ultimatum to convert to Hinduism. In December 2024, a Christian man in Uttar Pradesh was attacked, forcibly converted, and paraded while the mob chanted "Death to Jesus."

The United States Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) recommends designating India a "Country of Particular Concern" and imposing targeted sanctions on those perpetrating these attacks. The international community is increasingly alarmed by the rising tide of religious violence in India.

Syria: Sectarian Violence Post-Regime Change

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Following the collapse of the Assad regime in December 2024, Syria has seen a wave of sectarian violence targeting religious minorities, including Christians, with over 1,000 killed in early 2025. It remains unclear whether Christians are deliberately targeted or caught in broader conflicts, but many fear persecution by the new regime or extremist groups. Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), a dominant rebel group and known al-Qaeda splinter group now in power, is known for anti-Christian sentiments, heightening fears of increased persecution.

Christians, especially converts from Islam, face severe risks in the unstable post-regime environment. The international community is calling for humanitarian aid and protection for Syria’s vulnerable minority communities.

Democratic Republic of Congo: A "Silent Genocide"

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In February 2025, the Allied Democratic Forces (ADF), an ISIS-affiliated group, beheaded 70 Christians—men, women, and children—in a Protestant church in North Kivu, Democratic Republic of Congo, after tying their hands. This horrific massacre, described as a "silent genocide" reminiscent of the 1994 Rwandan genocide, has shocked the global community.

Since 1996, the ADF and other militias have killed over six million people, with Christians frequently targeted. A Christmas 2024 attack killed 46, further decimating churches in the region. With violence escalating, humanitarian organizations are urging immediate international intervention to address the crisis.

POLL: Starbase exposed: Musk’s vision or corporate takeover?

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Is Starbase the future of innovation or a step too far?

Elon Musk’s ambitious Starbase project in South Texas is reshaping Boca Chica into a cutting-edge hub for SpaceX’s Starship program, promising thousands of jobs and a leap toward Mars colonization. Supporters see Musk as a visionary, driving economic growth and innovation in a historically underserved region. However, local critics, including Brownsville residents and activists, argue that SpaceX’s presence raises rents, restricts beach access, and threatens environmental harm, with Starbase’s potential incorporation as a city sparking fears of unchecked corporate control. As pro-Musk advocates clash with anti-Musk skeptics, will Starbase unite the community or deepen the divide?

Let us know what you think in the poll below:

Is Starbase’s development a big win for South Texas?

Should Starbase become its own city?

Is Elon Musk’s vision more of a benefit than a burden for the region?

Shocking truth behind Trump-Zelenskyy mineral deal unveiled

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President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy have finalized a landmark agreement that will shape the future of U.S.-Ukraine relations. The agreement focuses on mineral access and war recovery.

After a tense March meeting, Trump and Zelenskyy signed a deal on Wednesday, April 30, 2025, granting the U.S. preferential mineral rights in Ukraine in exchange for continued military support. Glenn analyzed an earlier version of the agreement in March, when Zelenskyy rejected it, highlighting its potential benefits for America, Ukraine, and Europe. Glenn praised the deal’s strategic alignment with U.S. interests, including reducing reliance on China for critical minerals and fostering regional peace.

However, the agreement signed this week differs from the March proposal Glenn praised. Negotiations led to significant revisions, reflecting compromises on both sides. What changes were made? What did each leader seek, and what did they achieve? How will this deal impact the future of U.S.-Ukraine relations and global geopolitics? Below, we break down the key aspects of the agreement.

What did Trump want?

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Trump aimed to curb what many perceive as Ukraine’s overreliance on U.S. aid while securing strategic advantages for America. His primary goals included obtaining reimbursement for the billions in military aid provided to Ukraine, gaining exclusive access to Ukraine’s valuable minerals (such as titanium, uranium, and lithium), and reducing Western dependence on China for critical resources. These minerals are essential for aerospace, energy, and technology sectors, and Trump saw their acquisition as a way to bolster U.S. national security and economic competitiveness. Additionally, he sought to advance peace talks to end the Russia-Ukraine war, positioning the U.S. as a key mediator.

Ultimately, Trump secured preferential—but not exclusive—rights to extract Ukraine’s minerals through the United States-Ukraine Reconstruction Investment Fund, as outlined in the agreement. The U.S. will not receive reimbursement for past aid, but future military contributions will count toward the joint fund, designed to support Ukraine’s post-war recovery. Zelenskyy’s commitment to peace negotiations under U.S. leadership aligns with Trump’s goal of resolving the conflict, giving him leverage in discussions with Russia.

These outcomes partially meet Trump’s objectives. The preferential mineral rights strengthen U.S. access to critical resources, but the lack of exclusivity and reimbursement limits the deal’s financial benefits. The peace commitment, however, positions Trump as a central figure in shaping the war’s resolution, potentially enhancing his diplomatic influence.

What did Zelenskyy want?

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Zelenskyy sought to sustain U.S. military and economic support without the burden of repaying past aid, which has been critical for Ukraine’s defense against Russia. He also prioritized reconstruction funds to rebuild Ukraine’s war-torn economy and infrastructure. Security guarantees from the U.S. to deter future Russian aggression were a key demand, though controversial, as they risked entangling America in long-term commitments. Additionally, Zelenskyy aimed to retain control over Ukraine’s mineral wealth to safeguard national sovereignty and align with the country’s European Union membership aspirations.

The final deal delivered several of Zelenskyy’s priorities. The reconstruction fund, supported by future U.S. aid, provides a financial lifeline for Ukraine’s recovery without requiring repayment of past assistance. Ukraine retained ownership of its subsoil and decision-making authority over mineral extraction, granting only preferential access to the U.S. However, Zelenskyy conceded on security guarantees, a significant compromise, and agreed to pursue peace talks under Trump’s leadership, which may involve territorial or political concessions to Russia.

Zelenskyy’s outcomes reflect a delicate balance. The reconstruction fund and retained mineral control bolster Ukraine’s economic and sovereign interests, but the absence of security guarantees and pressure to negotiate peace could strain domestic support and challenge Ukraine’s long-term stability.

What does this mean for the future?

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While Trump didn’t secure all his demands, the deal advances several of his broader strategic goals. By gaining access to Ukraine’s mineral riches, the U.S. undermines China’s dominance over critical elements like lithium and graphite, essential for technology and energy industries. This shift reduces American and European dependence on Chinese supply chains, strengthening Western industrial and tech sectors. Most significantly, the agreement marks a pivotal step toward peace in Europe. Ending the Russia-Ukraine war, which has claimed thousands of lives, is a top priority for Trump, and Zelenskyy’s commitment to U.S.-led peace talks enhances Trump’s leverage in negotiations with Russia. Notably, the deal avoids binding U.S. commitments to Ukraine’s long-term defense, preserving flexibility for future administrations.

The deal’s broader implications align with the vision Glenn outlined in March, when he praised its potential to benefit America, Ukraine, and Europe by securing resources and creating peace. While the final agreement differs from Glenn's hopes, it still achieves key goals he outlined.

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