GLENNFebruary 07, 2017

Will the Real Pat Gray Please Step Forward? (The One Who DOESN'T Like Movie Musicals)

Hell hath done froze over. Pat Gray, beloved co-host of The Glenn Beck Program and hardened 70s and 80s music buff, has gone soft.

"I've known Pat since 1989. Never saw this coming," Glenn said Tuesday on radio.

What happened that shocked Glenn so much?

"I said I liked La La Land," Pat admitted.

Gulp. Glenn was right about everything. There will be a time when nothing makes sense, when up is down and left is right. God help us.

Enjoy the complimentary clip above or read the transcript below for details.

GLENN: I've known Pat since 1989. Never saw this coming. Right before we went on the air, he said...

Go ahead, Pat.

PAT: I forget what I said.

GLENN: Oh, no. No, no. No, it's seared in all of our memories.

PAT: I said I liked La La Land.

GLENN: What the hell has happened?

PAT: We went. It's going on two weeks ago because I got sick after. We haven't talked about it yet.

GLENN: Yeah.

JEFFY: "You know, we never talked about that musical we saw, Glenn."

GLENN: That's what he said. That's what he said beforehand. "You know, we haven't talked about that musical we went to see." And I'm like, musical that we went to see? What are you talking about?

PAT: Well, we didn't go alone. It wasn't like -- we weren't holding hands as dates. We actually had our wives with us.

But it -- I thought it was a really good movie. I thought that was a --

GLENN: What has happened?

PAT: I liked it.

GLENN: You leave for two days. You come back. Is this the same Pat?

STU: I'm in another dimension. I've entered another world. Because my wife saw it, and she did not really like it.

PAT: Really? Why?

STU: I don't know. I mean -- honestly, once I heard the word "musical," I stopped listening to conversations about it. But I am shocked -- because I'm not surprised to hear Glenn likes it.

JEFFY: Right, of course.

STU: Obviously, right up his alley. Makes perfect sense.

JEFFY: Yes, it sure does.

STU: But Pat Gray, what has occurred?

PAT: I'm a well-rounded individual.

GLENN: No, you're not.

PAT: I have very good tastes.

GLENN: No. No, you do not. No, you do not.

He was in here yesterday while you were gone, Stu, and he was ranting off the air, something about Boston and how they went wrong in like the 1970s.

STU: Every time -- because we'll go out to lunch sometimes after the show, and every single time I get into his car, the first thing that happens is Boston blaring through the speakers, until he awkwardly like reaches over and turns it down really fast because he turns the car off with Boston at full --

PAT: It may not be Boston. It could be Foreigner. Or Styx.

STU: It could be Foreigner.

PAT: You know.

GLENN: Right. Or strangely now, La La Land.

PAT: The soundtrack, yes. The soundtrack of La La Land.

I thought it was enjoyable. It wasn't -- you know, it wasn't so musical, it was an opera.

GLENN: Well, those are different. But I'm going to give that to you. I know what you mean.

PAT: Because like, what was it? Was it Les Mis, the movie that was just non-stop singing? It was like, okay. I've had enough. I've had enough.

GLENN: Yes. That's what Les Mis is.

PAT: I know, right. And I've had enough, by about five minutes in it.

But this was enjoyable, except they didn't want -- well, actually I don't want to spoil it for anybody, but the ending is sad.

GLENN: I think the ending is beautiful. I think the ending is great. I think it's perfect.

JEFFY: Yeah, Glenn has already blown that I think on the show.

GLENN: No, I don't think I have.

PAT: I don't remember him blowing that.

GLENN: What, that she gets can- -- oh, no. Now I've said it. She gets canned goods.

So my daughter went to see Manchester By The Sea.

STU: That's really sad too.

PAT: What is that anyway?

GLENN: I don't know.

And she said, "Dad, have you seen Manchester -- I said, "No." And she said, "Oh, my gosh." And she tears up, "You have to see it." And I said, "You just gave it the kiss of death. I am not going to see it." And she's like, "No, Dad, you have to. It's so beautiful. It's so beautiful. You will just love it." And I said, "It's sad, isn't it?"

And she said, tears welling up, "Yes. It's really sad. I cry every time I think about it. I stood outside of the theater, and I cried for ten minutes."

PAT: Ringing endorsement for a movie.

GLENN: And I'm like, "Why would I go? Why would I go?"

STU: Yeah. I don't want that anymore in my life anymore than it is.

GLENN: I know. Everything in my life is like that. I want to go and escape.

STU: Right.

What was that movie a few years ago? Marley & Me? Do you remember that stupid movie?

JEFFY: Yes. Oh, my gosh.

PAT: With the dog?

STU: And I remember walking out of the theater, like why did I do that to myself? It was like the saddest --

GLENN: Especially for like a dog movie.

PAT: I know.

STU: Exactly.

GLENN: That is just saying to you: Look, guys, we got around the table. We said, how can we play on people's emotions? Somebody said, let's do a cat movie. Somebody said, no. Let's kill a dog.

STU: What about a hamster? The dog won.

GLENN: The dog won. And all we've done is just built a script around playing on your emotions.

STU: Right. I mean, you know, if you're going to go see Schindler's List. Okay. You know it's going to be sad, but there's a real reason to see it. You want to see the history and all that other stuff.

JEFFY: There's some uplifting moments.

GLENN: In Schindler's List? I don't recall those.

STU: Yeah, no.

JEFFY: Really?

GLENN: Yeah. Even when he's on the railroad tracks, he's bummed. He's like, "I could have done more." I mean, it's still bad.

STU: No, it's not -- not a lot. Maybe in the previews, you're remembering. I don't know.

GLENN: Right. I think you might be thinking Life Is Beautiful, where you realize, "No, not so much."

STU: We've lied to you in the title of this movie.

GLENN: Life is not beautiful. It's a concentration camp.

STU: Right.

PAT: Has anybody seen legacy -- or 24 Legacy yet?

STU: I have DVRed it. I haven't seen it yet.

GLENN: I have not. Is it good?

PAT: It's pretty compelling just like --

STU: Well, we watched -- we were kind of thinking like, "Oh, they're making another one without Kiefer Sutherland. It sounds stupid."

PAT: Yeah, it did.

STU: And then one day on Pat & Stu, we played the trailer for it.

PAT: It looked awesome.

STU: And in a minute and a half, we were back into it.

PAT: Yeah. Definitely. I will tell you this, there might be a problem at CTU. There might be a problem in the government.

STU: It looks pretty good.

No.

GLENN: No! No!

PAT: Yeah. And there might be a problem with some American traitors.

GLENN: Oh, gee, I wonder if they're big oil companies. They're definitely not Islamic. That was the problem -- you just turned me off, I'm not interested.

PAT: Well, after eight seasons of that, with the original, I was pretty done with that. But, hey, I must be ready for it again.

GLENN: That went eight seasons?

PAT: I think more than that, didn't it?

STU: Seven or eight.

GLENN: No. Really? Wow.

PAT: Yeah. Yeah. I think the --

GLENN: We made it all the way through.

PAT: I didn't, but many did. I made it to season six.

GLENN: Have you guys -- has anybody seen the new pope -- or, The Young Pope?

PAT: No, is that the --

JEFFY: The Young Pope.

PAT: I have not.

GLENN: It's on HBO. I started watching it the other day. And I'm like, oh, I don't like this at all. Because it seems like this young pope is -- you immediately think he's really a bad guy, like really, really a bad guy. And the more you watch it, the more you think, "Now, wait a minute, maybe he's the really, really good guy, who is taking down all of the trappings and the -- you know -- it's really weird."

PAT: Is it a modern day setting?

GLENN: Yeah, yeah, modern day setting. Jude Law. And if you're a Catholic, you can't watch it because it will just set your hair on fire. It's the typical --

STU: It's not friendly to Catholicism?

GLENN: No. It's the typical not friendly to Catholicism thing. But if you're not Catholic, you don't have that automatic barrier against -- but you're still like, "I'm not sure exactly what's happening."

So it's one of those things -- I'm like three episodes into it, and I'm like -- I'm starting to get invested in this. And if it turns out that he's really -- all this is, is a Catholic bash, I'm really going to be more pissed than even the Catholics.

(chuckling)

JEFFY: It might be.

GLENN: And it might be.

PAT: Yeah. That's what it usually is.

GLENN: I know. This is just so bizarre. It's just so strange that I'm not sure how I feel about it yet.

PAT: And you said it's HBO?

GLENN: HBO. And so, I mean, it's got all the earmarks of let's just bash the church or bash religious people.

PAT: It sure does. Does it center around the priest scandal?

GLENN: No, it's got part of it in there. But he keeps pushing it off. And that's why you're like, "Wait a minute. Why does he keep pushing the priest scandal off?" And I kind of get the feeling that he's hunting for bigger fish.

He'll say things that are crazy. Remember the Last Temptation of Christ?

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: And it set everybody's hair on fire because the last temptation happened on the cross. This was the idea that the last temptation happened on the cross. And, you know, Jesus had children and a normal life. But that was just what Satan was showing him.

Satan was showing him, "Hey, you could have all this." And in the end, all that happened -- you know, the whole movie happened in just a fraction of a second on the cross. And that was what Satan was showing him. Hey, right now, you can -- you can end this, and you can have all of that. And his last temptation, Jesus said no.

STU: That was really controversial at the time, yeah?

GLENN: Yeah, and it shouldn't have been. Because the point is, that's what Satan showed him, and Jesus said no.

And I think it might be going in that direction, that this guy is saying things and doing things that look really bad on the outset, but it's only because he's rooting out real bad stuff.

PAT: HBO. Jude Law.

GLENN: Yeah, I know. I know. I know. I know.

STU: Oh, it will come around.

PAT: I'm sure it's going to be fine. It's going to be good for the Catholic church.

GLENN: No. Or faith in general. Faith in general.

PAT: Yes.

GLENN: So I've been having -- I've been having a problem I want to talk to you about.

I'm losing touch with people more and more every day.

STU: We started a segment with La La Land. Of course, you're losing touch with people.

GLENN: I know. I know. And that was only -- that was only deflection. I was only trying to deflect some of the stuff I wanted to talk about.

I'm not understanding the self-imposed ignorance of people right now.

For instance, so somebody -- I tweeted -- somebody said, "Oh, Glenn Beck, grow a spine. You know, we have to defeat evil." And I said, "My spine is getting stronger and stronger every day. You don't defeat evil with evil or hate with hate. Only light and love defeat hatred, evil, and error."

Now, what does that mean to you, Stu? Do we ever pick up a gun against Hitler?

STU: I'm going to say yes. It's funny, I -- you know, what? ISIS. You're going to talk about the worst groups on earth -- is love the key? Obviously, there is an element of that long-term, which is really more on their side in that they need to find it. But, I mean, you wrote a book called It Is About Islam. This is not -- this is not something that you've taken lightly over the years.

GLENN: So listen to some of the comments: Okay, chubby.

STU: Well, that's true.

(laughter)

GLENN: And I wrote back, I said, "Hey, that's easy. I get it. I get it. My weight."

Listen to this one: Try waving that Christmas Sweater at the Berkeley mob and tell us how it goes for you.

STU: Oh, so they remember The Christmas Sweater book, but not the much more recent It Is About Islam book or Liars?

GLENN: But not even that. They know The Christmas Sweater, so they know that's about redemption. They know that's the Christmas Story. That's obviously a listener. That you know the Christmas Sweater, and you don't understand or you're mocking the meaning of the Christmas sweater behind that. I mean, it was stunning to me.

Glenn, you've officially lost your F-ing mind.

That's from a guy who has the blue line police shield as his avatar.

Then some stuff I can't really repeat. Start a search to find Glenn Beck sometimes. It seems he's written to a sandal robe-wearing door-to-door dribble salesman.

Read up. God destroyed evil many, many times.

Okay. Got that one.

I would suggest reading up on yourself and getting the log from your own eye. I'm trying to do that.

STU: I think he has better information than he needs to read articles about himself to know about himself. He was there for all the things.

GLENN: Right. Thank you. Thank you.

Your spine is strong only because men stronger and braver than you are willing to defend the principles that you only pay lip service to.

Bonhoeffer was killed by the Nazis. Men with guns defeated them. The left aren't the English, and Gandhi or US, and MLK, and you know it.

I think that one is actually advocating guns against the left.

PAT: It sounds like it.

GLENN: There are so many people -- I tweeted on -- this is a continuation from Sunday. Because I tweeted, "We have to take the hate out of our own hearts."

Now, that's not saying that about you. That's saying that about me. I got to take the hate out of my own heart. I have to find a way to love the people who absolutely hate me. And that is really hard.

And I'm really -- I'm struggling with these things because I think it's self-imposed ignorance. I think these people, many of them, they know better. They know better. They know that we're not talking about defeating the Nazis or ISIS.

We're not talking about that. I am talking about, "How are you going to -- let me ask you this: For those on the right and the left -- I heard Maxine Waters. And we want to play this in a second. She's now mentioning impeachment. What is that going to do? That's going to inoculate Donald Trump for all time on impeachment. That's all that's going to do. And it's going to drive the wedge between the left and the again. Now, it's Maxine Waters, so I get it.

Let me ask the protesters. You're going out and protesting, what, exactly? You're protesting the week he was elected. What do you think that's going to do? Does that make you look like you're a reasonable person, at least to half the country? You don't even have anything to protest at least that time? You didn't have anything to protest. You were just out protesting.

You're setting Starbucks on fire. Do you think that's going to win anybody over?

More importantly, what have we learned about Donald Trump?

Donald Trump punches back. It's why a lot of people like him. He punches back. And what does he say, "If you punch me, I punch back twice as hard."

STU: Twice as hard.

GLENN: So we know every time you punch him, he will escalate. He will punch you back twice as hard.

So you're going to riot. You're going to do these things. You're going to threaten impeachment. And what do you think he's going to do? Roll over?

He's going to punch you back twice as hard. And then for you to survive, you have to punch him back. And then what is he going to do? He's going to punch back twice as hard again? I mean, where does this end?

I don't think people are realizing -- you know, it's like the woman told me in Poland. The righteous didn't suddenly become righteous, they just refused to go over the cliff with everyone else. Look at the cliff you're headed towards. Where does it end?

If you're punching on both sides and you're claiming that we have to hate the other side and the other side is an enemy that must be destroyed, there's no place, except civil war. There's no place to go.

And I don't think the vast majority of people who are listening, the people who are not listening, the people who are for Trump, and the people who are against Trump, are really seriously wanting a civil war.

I think most people want this to end. Stop it.

The Globalist Elites' Dystopian Plan for YOUR Future | Glenn Beck Chalkboard Breakdown

There are competing visions for the future of America which are currently in totally different directions. If the globalist elites have their way, the United States will slide into a mass surveillance technocracy where freedoms are eroded and control is fully centralized. Glenn Beck heads to the chalkboard to break down exactly what their goal is and why we need to hold the line against these ominous forces.

Watch the FULL Episode HERE: Dark Future: Uncovering the Great Reset’s TERRIFYING Next Phase

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Barack & Michelle tried to END divorce rumors. It DIDN'T go well

Former president Barack Obama recently joined his wife Michelle Obama and her brother on their podcast to finally put the divorce rumors to rest … but it didn’t exactly work. Glenn Beck and Pat Gray review the awkward footage, including a kiss that could compete for “most awkward TV kiss in history.”

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Now, let me -- let me take you to some place. I think kind of entertaining.

Michelle Obama has a podcast. Who knew?

She does it with her brother. Who knew? It's -- you know, I mean, it's so -- it's a podcast with two brothers. Right?

And -- and it -- they wanted to address the rumors, that they're getting a divorce. And this thing seems so staged.

I want you to -- listen to this awkward exchange on the podcast.

Cut one please.

VOICE: Wait, you guys like each other.

MICHELLE: Oh, yeah. The rumor mill. It's my husband, y'all! Now, don't start.

OBAMA: It's good to be back. It was touch-and-go for a while.

VOICE: It's so nice to have you both in the same room today.

OBAMA: I know. I know.

MICHELLE: I know, because when we aren't, folks things we're divorced. There hasn't been one moment in our marriage, where I thought about quitting my man.

And we've had some really hard times. We've had a lot of fun times. A lot of adventures. And I have become a better person because of the man I'm married to.

VOICE: Okay. Don't make me cry.

PAT: Aw.

GLENN: I believed her. Now, this is just so hokey.

VOICE: And welcome to IMO.

MICHELLE: Get you all teared up. See, but this is why I can't -- see, you can take the hard stuff, but when I start talking about the sweet stuff, you're like, stop. No, I can't do it.

VOICE: I love it. I'm enjoying it.

MICHELLE: But thank you, honey, for being on our show. Thank you for making the time. We had a great --

VOICE: Of course, I've been listening.

PAT: What? No!

GLENN: They're not doing good. They're not doing good.

Okay. And then there was this at the beginning. And some people say, this was very awkward. Some people say, no. It was very nice.

When he walks in the room, he gives her a hug and a kiss. Watch.

Gives her a little peck on the cheek.

PAT: Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

GLENN: Does that --

PAT: Does that look like they're totally into each other?

GLENN: Well, I give my wife a peck on the cheek, if she walks into a room.

PAT: Do you? If you haven't seen her in months and it seems like they haven't, would you kiss her on the cheek? Probably not.

GLENN: No, that's a little different. That would be a little different. But I wouldn't make our first seeing of each other on television.

PAT: Yeah, right, that's true. That's true.

GLENN: But, you know, in listening to the staff talk about this. And they were like, it was a really uncomfortable -- okay.

Well, maybe.

PAT: I think it was a little uncomfortable.

GLENN: It was a little uncomfortable.

It's still, maybe. Maybe.

But I don't think that rivals -- and I can't decide which is the worst, most uncomfortable kiss.

Let me roll you back into the time machine, to Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley. Do you remember this kiss?
(applauding)

GLENN: He turns away, immediately away from the camera. Because he's like.

PAT: He was about to vomit. Yeah.

GLENN: It was so awkward. When that happened, all of us went, oh, my gosh. He has only kissed little boys. What are we doing? What is happening?

He doesn't like women, what is happening?

And then there's the other one that sticks out in my mind of -- and I'm not sure which is worse. The Lisa Marie or the Tipper in Al Gore.

VOICE: The kiss. The famous exchange during the 2000 democratic convention was to some lovely, to others icky.
(laughter)

GLENN: That's an ABC reporter. To some lovely, others icky.

And it really was. And it was -- I believe his global warming stuff more than that kiss.
(laughter)
And you know where I stand on global warming.

That was the most awkward kiss I think ever on television!

PAT: Yeah. It was pretty bad. Pretty bad.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

So when people who are, you know -- these youngsters.

These days. They look at Barack and Michelle. They're like, that was an awkward kiss.

Don't even start with me.

We knew when we were kids, what awkward kisses were like.

PAT: The other awkward thing about that.

She claims, there was not been one moment in their marriage.

Where she's considered reeving him.

GLENN: Yeah.

PAT: She just said a while ago. A month or a year ago, she hated his guts for ten years. She hated it.

GLENN: Yeah. But that doesn't mean you'll give up.

PAT: I guess not. I guess not. Maybe you enjoy being miserable.

I don't know.

GLENN: No. I have to tell you the truth.

My grandmother when I got a divorce, just busted me up forever. I call her up, and I said, on my first marriage.

Grandma, we're getting a divorce.

And my sweet little 80-year-old grandmother, who never said a bad thing in her life said, excuse me?

And I said, what?

We're getting a divorce.

And she said, how dare you.

I said, what's happening. And she said, I really thought you would be the one that would understand. Out of everybody in this family, I thought you would understand.

And I said, what?

And she said, this just -- this just crushed me when she said it.

Do you think your grandfather and I liked each other all these years? I was like, well, yeah.

PAT: Wow.

GLENN: Kind of. And she said, we loved each other. But we didn't always like each other. And there were times that we were so mad at each other.

PAT: Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh.

STU: But we knew one thing: Marriage lasts until death!

PAT: Did she know your first wife?

GLENN: Okay. All right. That's just not necessary.

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No, Trump’s tariffs ARE NOT causing inflation

The media is insisting that President Trump's tariffs caused a rise in inflation for June. But Our Republic president Justin Haskins joins Glenn to debunk this theory and present another for where inflation is really coming from.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Justin Haskins is here. He is the president of Our Republic. And the editor-in-chief of stoppingsocialism.com.

He is also the coauthor with me at the Great Reset, Dark Future, and Propaganda War.

So, in other words, I'm saying, he doesn't have a lot of credibility. But he is here to report -- I don't even think you're -- you're -- you were wrong on this, too, with the tariffs. Right?

JUSTIN: Well, at some point, I was wrong about everything.

GLENN: Yeah, right. We are all on the road to being right.

But this is coming as a shock. You called yesterday, and you said, Glenn, I think the tariff thing -- I think the president might be right.

And this is something I told him, if I'm wrong. I will admit that I'm wrong.

But I don't think I'm wrong.

Because this goes against everything the economists have said, forever.

That tariffs don't work.

They increase inflation.

It's going to cost us more.

All of these things. You have been study this now for a while, to come up with the right answer, no matter where it fell.

Tell me what's going on.

JUSTIN: Okay. So the most recent inflation data that came out from the government, shows that in June, prices went up 2.7 percent. In May, they went up 2.4 percent. That's compared to a year prior. And most people are saying, well, this is proof that the tariffs are causing inflation.

GLENN: Wait. That inflation is -- the target is -- the target is two -- I'm sorry.

We're not. I mean, when I was saying, it was going to cause inflation. I thought we could be up to 5 percent.

But, anyway, go ahead.

JUSTIN: So the really incredible thing though. The more you look at the numbers. The more obvious it is, that this does not prove inflation at all.

For starters, these numbers are lower, than what the numbers were in December and January.

Before Trump was president. And before we had any talk of tariffs at all.

So that is a big red flag right at the very beginning. When you dive even deeper into the numbers, what you see is there's all kinds of parts of the Consumer Price Index that tracks specific industries, or kinds of goods and services. That should be showing inflation, if inflation is being caused by tariffs, but isn't.

So, for example, clothing and apparel. Ninety-seven percent, basically.

About 97 percent according to one report, of clothing and apparel comes overseas, imported into the United States.

GLENN: Correct.

JUSTIN: So prices for apparel and clothing should be going up. And they're not going up, according to the data, they're actually going down, compared to what they were a year ago. Same thing is true with new vehicles.

Obviously, there were huge tariffs put on foreign vehicles, not on domestic vehicles. So it's a little bit more mixed.

But new vehicle price are his staying basically flat. They haven't gone up at all. Even though, there's a 25 percent tariff on imported cars and car parts. And then we just look at the overall import prices. You just -- sort of the index. Which the government tracks.

What we're seeing is that prices are basically staying the same, from what they were a year ago.

There's very, very little movement overall.

GLENN: Okay. So wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.

Wait.

Let me just -- let me just make something career.

Somebody is eating the tariffs. And it appears to be the companies that are making these things. Which is what Donald Trump said. And then, the -- you know, the economist always saying, well, they're just going to pass this on in the price.

Well, they have to. They have to get this money some place.

So where are they?

Is it possible they're just doing this right now, to get past. Because they know if they jack up their price, you know, they won't be able to sell anything. What is happening?

How is this money, being coughed up by the companies, and not passed on to the consumer.

JUSTIN: Yeah, it could be happening. I think the most likely scenario, is that they are passing it along to consumers. They're just not passing it along to American consumers.

In other words, they're raising prices elsewhere. To try to protect the competitiveness with the American market. Because the American market is the most important consumer market in the world.

And they probably don't want to piss off Donald Trump either, in jacking up prices. And then potentially having tariffs go up even more, as a punishment for doing that.

Because that's a real option.

And so I think that's what's happening right now.

Now, it's possible, that we are going to see a huge increase in inflation. In six months!

That's entirely possible.

We don't know what's going to happen. But as of right now, all the data is suggesting that recent inflation is not coming from consumer goods being imported, or anything like that.

That's not where the inflation is coming.

Instead, it's coming from housing.

That's part of the CPI at that time.

Housing is the cause of inflation right now.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. It's not housing, is it?

Because the things to make houses is not going through the roof. Pardon the pun. Right?

It's not building.

JUSTIN: No. No. The way the CPI calculates housing is really stupid. They look basically primarily at rent. That's the primary way, they determine housing prices.

GLENN: Okay.

JUSTIN: That so on they're not talking about housing costs to build a new house.

Or housing prices to buy a new house.

They are talking about rent.

And then they try to use rent data, as a way of calculating how much you would have to pay if you owned a house, but you had to rent the same kind of house.

And that's how they come up with this category.

GLENN: Can I ask you a question: Is everybody in Washington, are they all retarded?
(laughter)
Because I don't. What the hell. Who is coming up with that formula?

JUSTIN: Look. I mean, sort of underlying this whole conversation, as you -- as you and I know, Glenn.

And Pat too. The CPI is a joke to begin with.

GLENN: Right.

JUSTIN: So there's all kinds of problems with this system, to begin with.

I mean, come on!

GLENN: Okay. So because I promised the president, if I was wrong, and I had the data that I was wrong, I would tell him.

Do I have to -- out of all the days to do this.

Do I have to call him today, to do that?

Are we still -- are we still looking at this, going, well, maybe?

JUSTIN: I think there's -- I think there is a really solid argument that you don't need to make the phone call.

GLENN: Oh, thank God. Today is not the day to call Donald Trump. Today is not the day.

Yeah. All right.

JUSTIN: And the reason why is, we need -- we probably do need more data over a longer period of time, to see if corporations are doing something.

In order to try to push these cuts off into the future, for some reason. Maybe in the hopes that the tariffs go down. Or maybe -- you know, it's all sorts of ways, they could play with it, to try to avoid paying those costs today.

It's possible, that's what's going on.

But as of right now, that's not at all, what is happening. As far as I can tell from the data.

GLENN: But isn't the other side of this, because everybody else said, oh. It's not going to pay for anything.

Didn't we last month have the first surplus since, I don't know. Abraham Lincoln.

JUSTIN: Yes. Yes. We did. I don't know how long that surplus will last us.

GLENN: Yeah. But we had one month.

I don't think I've ever heard that before in my lifetime. Hey, United States had a surplus.

JUSTIN: I looked it up.

I think it was like 20 something years ago, was the last time that happened. If I remembered right.

It was 20 something years ago.

So this is incredible, really.

And if it works.

You and I talked about this before.

I actually think there is an argument to be made. That this whole strategy could work, if American manufacturers can dramatically bring down their costs. To produce goods and services.

So that they can be competitive.

And I think that advancements in artificial intelligence. In automation. Is going to open up the door to that being a reality.

And if you listen to the Trump administration talk. People like Howard Lutnick, Secretary of Commerce. They have said, this is the plan.

The plan is, go all in on artificial intelligence.

Automation. That's going to make us competitive with manufacturers overseas. China is already doing that.

They're already automating their factories. They lead the world in automation.

GLENN: Yeah, but they can take half their population, put them up in a plane, and then crash it into the side of the mountain.

They don't care.

What happens to the people that now don't have a job here? How do they afford the clothes that are now much, much cheaper?

JUSTIN: Well, I think the answer to that is, there's going to be significantly more wealth. Trillions of dollars that we send overseas, every year, now in the American economy. And that's going to go into other things. It's not as though -- when this technology comes along, it is not as though people lose their jobs, and that's it. People sit on their couch forever.

The real danger here is not that new markets will not arrive in that situation. And jobs with it. The problem is: I think there's a real opportunity here. And I think this is going to be the fight of the next election, potentially. Presidential election. And going forward.

Next, ten, 20 years. This is going to be a huge issue. Democrats are going to have the opportunity, when the AI revolution goes into full force. They will have the opportunity like they've never had before.

To say, you know what, we'll take care of you. Don't worry about it.

We're just going to take all of the corporate money and all of the rich people's money.

And we will print trillions of dollars more. And you can sit on your couch forever. And we will just pay you. Because this whole system is rigged, and it's unfair, and you don't have a job anymore because of AI. And there's nothing you can do. You can't compete with AI. AI is smarter than you.

You have no hope.

I think that's coming, and it is going to be really hard for free market people to fight back against that.

GLENN: Yes.

Well, I tend to agree with you.

Because the -- you know, I thought about this.

I war gamed this, probably in 2006.

I'm thinking, okay.

If -- if the tech is going to grow and grow and grow. And they will start being -- they will be responsible for taking the jobs.

They won't be real on popular.

So they will need some people that will allow them to stay in business, and to protect them.

So they're going to need to be in with the politicians.

And if the politicians are overseeing the -- the decrease of jobs, they're going to need the -- the PR arm of things like social media. And what it can be done.

What can be done now.

I was thinking, at the time. Google can do.

But they need each other.

They must have one another. And unless we have a stronger foundation, and a very clear direction, and I will tell you. The president disagrees with me on this.

I said, he's going to be remembered as the transformational AI president.

And he said, I think you're wrong on that.

And I don't think I am.

This -- this -- this time period is going to be remembered for transformation.

And he is transforming the world. But the one that will make the lasting difference will be power and AI.

Agree with that or disagree?

JUSTIN: 1,000 percent. 1,000 percent. This is by far the most important thing that is happening in his administration in the long run. You're projecting out ten, 20, 30 years ago years.

They will be talking about this moment in history, a thousand years from now. Like, that will -- and they will -- and if America becomes the epicenter of this new technology, they will be talking about it, a thousand years from now, about how Americans were the ones that really developed this.

That they're the ones that promoted it, that they're the ones that does took advantage of it.
That's why this AI race with China is so important that we win it.

It's one of the reasons why. And I do think it's a defining moment for his presidency. Of course, the problem with all of this is AI could kill us all. You have to weigh that in.

GLENN: Yeah. Right. Right.

Well, we hope you're wrong on that one.

And I'm wrong on it as well. Justin, thank you so much.

Thank you for giving me the out, where I don't have to call him today. But I might have to call him soon. Thanks, Justin. I appreciate it.

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