Katie Couric Admits a 'Fetus Can Feel' in Interview With Ellen Degeneres

Where to begin? In her latest documentary on gender and the gender revolution, Katie Couric went on record that a baby in utero can actually feel. Granted, her point was that "sometimes the surge of testosterone can make a female fetus feel as if that baby is male," but she nonetheless admitted to a fetus being able to feel. And, in Couric's reasoning, the opposite would be true in the case of a lack of testosterone.

"Excuse me?" Glenn asked, perplexed on a variety of levels.

Co-host Pat Gray wondered if perhaps Couric might have stumbled upon something that would cause an epiphany.

"If that's the case, haven't you stumbled onto something there, that maybe you shouldn't be destroying this female . . . this transgendered baby? I mean, maybe that's how we attack this now, from a transgendered point of view. How many transgendered people are you going to abort?" Pat asked.

Does science or reason even play a role in their thinking? If only fetuses were ice caps or melting glaciers then the left would be on red alert about abortion.

GLENN: Hello, America. Welcome to the program. Glad you're here. Let's start with Katie Couric. Katie Couric is doing a documentary on gender and the gender revolution that is happening right now. And she was speaking to Ellen DeGeneres. And I want you to listen to what she's saying. And forget about gender. Let's talk about abortion. Listen to this.

KATIE: Operate on a child and tell that child you're a certain gender. That doesn't necessarily coincide with who that person feels he or she actually is.

ELLEN: Right. It doesn't correlate with what is in your head.

KATIE: Right. In the later stages of development, it's when your brain is wired. And sometimes the surge of testosterone can make a female fetus feel as if that baby is male or that person is male.

ELLEN: So you're in the wrong body, yeah.

KATIE: And the opposite if there's not enough testosterone.

GLENN: Excuse me?

PAT: Interesting. On many levels, fascinating.

GLENN: What was that?

PAT: That's Katie Couric saying that a -- first of all, a female fetus baby -- which goes a little beyond the whole tissue thing, doesn't it?


PAT: Okay. That's not Brussels sprouts growing inside of a woman. That's a baby growing inside of the woman. Secondly, if the baby is to the point where the baby can feel either male or female, what are you doing aborting it? If that's the case, haven't you -- haven't you stumbled on to something there, that maybe you shouldn't be destroying this female -- this transgendered baby? I don't -- I mean, maybe that's how we attack this now, from a transgendered point of view.

How many transgendered people are you going to abort?

STU: You look at that -- what is it? It's got to be -- I mean, between -- in the LGBTQIA community.

GLENN: Seriously. Is IA two new letters?

STU: Yeah, Jeffy -- Jeffy knows.

GLENN: No, I don't trust Jeffy.

STU: Oh, I wouldn't trust Jeffy either. But on this topic, he's an expert.

GLENN: Seriously, they've added two new --

STU: Intersex and asexual.

JEFFY: It's the lesbian --

PAT: I thought you were making that up. They've added IA to it?

JEFFY: Well, it's the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer or questioning, intersex, asexual.

GLENN: What is intersex?

PAT: I mean, are we going to include the entire alphabet?

GLENN: That's why I said last week I thought you were joking.

STU: No.

GLENN: Why don't we just say ABCDEFGHIJKLMOPQRST -- I mean, why not just repeat the alphabet? What is intersexual?

STU: Intersex is a general term used for a variety of conditions -- which, I am not comfortable with this language. I want to make sure -- I'm reading this from the Intersex Society of North America.

Apparently, those hatemongers are comfortable calling it a condition. I am not. I want to make sure that is clear right now.

GLENN: Okay.

STU: Intersex is a general term used for a variety of conditions, in which the person with a reproductive or sexual anatomy that doesn't seem to fit the typical definitions of male or female.

GLENN: Okay. So that would be like an hermaphrodite?

JEFFY: Yeah, well, that's an outdated and inaccurate term that's been used to describe intersex people in the past, Glenn.

STU: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

GLENN: Honestly, how many people are affected by that?

STU: 300 million.

GLENN: This condition.

STU: I'm guessing.

GLENN: Am I the only one that suffers from the condition of heterosexuality.

STU: Outdated term, cisgender, is that what you're looking for?

PAT: I'm looking for heterosexual.

STU: There's no such thing.

PAT: There's no such thing.

STU: And what was the other one?

JEFFY: Asexual.

STU: Okay. Let's see, asexual is --

GLENN: Well, asexual is someone who doesn't claim to have any desire to be anything and have sex.

STU: Welcome to 1950. Thank you for that definition.

Without -- I think that's right. Absolutely. Not involved -- let's see.

PAT: That's what I thought Michael Jackson was.

GLENN: Asexual? Yeah.

JEFFY: Deliberate abstention from sexual activity.

STU: Which, again, I thought it was about -- I get very confused about these things. Because the last one was talking about seemingly body parts. Intersex.

JEFFY: Correct.

STU: However, the other things were sexual preferences, right? So why would intersex --

GLENN: Well, but no, they're not sexual preferences. Because we were taught that you were born a certain way, so you can't have a preference. You don't have a preference. That's who you are. Which kind of makes me wonder about questioning or bisexual. Questioning, maybe, because you're growing up in this horrible system that you're either a male or a female. So you're questioning whether or not you are. But that's not how you're born. You're not born questioning. You're questioning --

PAT: You're born with all the answers, right? You're born with every answer.

GLENN: Well, kids know things that their parents don't know.

PAT: That's right.

GLENN: So I don't know. So, anyway --

STU: But, again, that's an interesting thing, how many -- if you go through the LGBTQIA, that entire group, combine them together, how many in that group has been aborted? Millions, probably. Right?

PAT: Easily millions. We're 52 million overall. So...

GLENN: We are headed towards a very spooky place. And nobody is willing to go there, except apparently the right when the right doesn't have power, and the left, when the left doesn't have power.

I would think that the left would be the first to agree right now that we could absolutely head towards a totalitarian state where your sexual preference or your nothing that makes you a liberal can be deleted. We can change that gene. We can abort you.

That there could come a time when we have a fascist dictator that says, "Hey, here's the map of the gene. Delete those." And that could get out of control, especially with somebody like Donald Trump. And the right would say, "Especially with somebody like Barack Obama."

But they won't agree that -- you know, when you take politics out of it or their guy is in control, they will never agree that that's even a possibility. But that's what I'm afraid of.

That's what -- I shouldn't say afraid. That's what I'm concerned about. This is so easy to fix. But when you have somebody on top that is saying, "You will live a certain way." That's why -- that's why the Founders went and testified on behalf of people that were being persecuted, that were not them.

They would go and testify in states where their own faith -- their own church were persecuting people for not being a part of that church. And so they would say, which one of you guys is -- I don't know. You know, a -- let's just make it neutral. Which one of you guys is a Mormon because that future state of Utah is going to persecute all the people who aren't Mormons? They would find the Mormon guy, and he would go out and testify say, "Mormons, this is wrong." That's why we have to say, "I stand up for the most vile speech. I don't stand up for violence. But I will stand up for the most vile speech. I will stand up for the person most unlike me." And if we lose that, we are in grave danger. Because why can't I weed somebody out?

If you could -- you know, everybody -- everybody says, "Well, you can't find that homosexual gene. You noticed we mapped the entire DNA. Can't find the gay gene now, can you?" I'm glad we can't. I'm really glad we can't. Because I really, truly believe, in some parts of the world, and God forbid, here in America, we would start deleting that gay gene.

I'm concerned that everybody is so convinced that everybody bit of struggle and strife is bad and should be eliminated, that we're just going to start eliminating those people or those things that make you who you are.

That there's -- that's an abomination. Abomination. Look, I don't want to have cancer, and I want to eliminate cancer. But there are some things that are, you know, in your DNA. And we have to have that discussion.


Let’s thank the Pilgrims for defeating Socialism this Thanksgiving

This year marks the four hundredth anniversary of the first Thanksgiving celebrated by the Pilgrims and their Wampanoag allies in 1621. Tragically, nearly half of the Pilgrims had died by famine and disease during their first year. However, they had been met by native Americans such as Samoset and Squanto who miraculously spoke English and taught the Pilgrims how to survive in the New World. That fall the Pilgrims, despite all the hardships, found much to praise God for and they were joined by Chief Massasoit and his ninety braves came who feasted and celebrated for three days with the fifty or so surviving Pilgrims.

It is often forgotten, however, that after the first Thanksgiving everything was not smooth sailing for the Pilgrims. Indeed, shortly thereafter they endured a time of crop failure and extreme difficulties including starvation and general lack. But why did this happen? Well, at that time the Pilgrims operated under what is called the "common storehouse" system. In its essence it was basically socialism. People were assigned jobs and the fruits of their labor would be redistributed throughout the people not based on how much work you did but how much you supposedly needed.

The problem with this mode of economics is that it only fails every time. Even the Pilgrims, who were a small group with relatively homogeneous beliefs were unable to successfully operate under a socialistic system without starvation and death being only moments away. Governor William Bradford explained that under the common storehouse the people began to "allege weakness and inability" because no matter how much or how little work someone did they still were given the same amount of food. Unsurprisingly this, "was found to breed much confusion and discontent."[1]

The Pilgrims, however, were not the type of people to keep doing what does not work. And so, "they began to think how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in misery."[2] And, "after much debate of things" the Pilgrims under the direction of William Bradford, decided that each family ought to "trust to themselves" and keep what they produced instead of putting it into a common storehouse.[3] In essence, the Pilgrims decided to abandon the socialism which had led them to starvation and instead adopt the tenants of the free market.

And what was the result of this change? Well, according to Bradford, this change of course, "had very good success; for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been."[4] Eventually, the Pilgrims became a fiscally successful colony, paid off their enormous debt, and founded some of the earliest trading posts with the surrounding Indian tribes including the Aptucxet, Metteneque, and Cushnoc locations. In short, it represented one of the most significant economic revolutions which determined the early characteristics of the American nation.

The Pilgrims, of course, did not simply invent these ideas out of thin air but they instead grew out of the intimate familiarity the Pilgrims had with the Bible. The Scriptures provide clear principles for establishing a successful economic system which the Pilgrims looked to. For example, Proverbs 12:11 says, "He that tills his land shall be satisfied with bread." So the Pilgrims purchased land from the Indians and designated lots for every family to individually grow food for themselves. After all, 1 Timothy 5:8 declares, "If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever."

We often think that the battle against Socialism is a new fight sprouting out of the writings of Karl Marx which are so blindly and foolishly followed today by those deceived by leftist irrationality. However, America's fight against the evil of socialism goes back even to our very founding during the colonial period. Thankfully, our forefathers decided to reject the tenants of socialism and instead build their new colony upon the ideology of freedom, liberty, hard work, and individual responsibility.

So, this Thanksgiving, let's thank the Pilgrims for defeating socialism and let us look to their example today in our ongoing struggle for freedom.

[1] William Bradford, History of Plymouth Plantation (Boston: Massachusetts Historical Society, 1856), 135.

[2] William Bradford, History of Plymouth Plantation (Boston: Massachusetts Historical Society, 1856), 134.

[3] William Bradford, History of Plymouth Plantation (Boston: Massachusetts Historical Society, 1856), 134.

[4] William Bradford, History of Plymouth Plantation (Boston: Massachusetts Historical Society, 1856), 135.


EcoHealth Alliance's Peter Daszak: Hero or Villain? | Matt Ridley | Ep 126

Like most people, science journalist Matt Ridley just wants the truth. When it comes to the origin of COVID-19, that is a tall order. Was it human-made? Did it leak from a laboratory? What is the role of gain-of-function research? Why China, why now? Ridley's latest book, "Viral: The Search for the Origin of COVID-19," is a scientific quest to answer these questions and more. A year ago, you would have been kicked off Facebook for suggesting COVID originated in a lab. For most of the pandemic, the Left practically worshipped Anthony Fauci. But lately, people have been poking around. And one of the names that appears again and again is Peter Daszak, president of EcoHealth Alliance and a longtime collaborator and funder of the virus-hunting work at Wuhan Institute of Virology. In this episode of the Glenn Beck Podcast, Matt reveals the whole tangled web.


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COVID-19 changed everything. The way we live our lives, how we operate our businesses, how we see each other. And now, the federal government is sinking its tendrils even deeper, threatening the fabric not only of our bodily autonomy, but of the republic.

Our American way of life may never be the same. To save it, we must understand the key fundamentals of the pandemic that transfigured our society into the nightmare it is today. What is the COVID-19 origin story? Who are its top players in government and science, pulling the strings? What was their REAL response in the first days of the pandemic? The answers to these questions are frightening.

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