GLENN: But how do we trust -- what are we going to come to and trust? What we have to do is we have to hold people's feet to the fire. And I invite you to hold my feet to the fire. Hold my feet to the fire. Whatever the fire is that you started, that you say -- for instance, hold my feet to the fire. If I am -- you know the approach I'm trying to take. If I'm not fair -- if I'm resorting to name-calling and everything else. Fine. Hold my feet to the fire. I want you to. I want to be a better man and broadcaster.

Let's say this, if Donald Trump says the CBO is good, and he says this for ten years and we have evidence, hold his feet to the fire. What has changed? Don't give me hyperbole. Just tell me what time of day changed.

If you say something is bad and now all of a sudden it's good, great. I'm willing to believe you. Tell me what the pivot is. Tell me what has changed.

Let's take Snoop Dogg. I've brought Lawrence in. Lawrence Jones. He's one of the commentators of TheBlaze. He was with Dallas police, right? Which police?

LAWRENCE: I did reserves. I did reserves.

GLENN: Okay. So an investigator and private eye and now a commentator and is deeply rooted in the black community here in Dallas. He came in this morning with his hair on fire about Snoop Dogg.

I've seen the -- I've seen the Snoop Dogg video. Have you guys seen it yet?

PAT: Uh-uh.

GLENN: Okay. So Snoop Dogg does a video where he has a Donald Trump lookalike in clown makeup, orange clown makeup. And he points a gun to the president's head. Then he puts it in chains and everything else. And they're slapping him around.

Look at the picture right there. Tell me that that could have been done by anybody on Barack Obama. The world would have come undone if anyone would have done a picture, let alone a music video about shooting the president of the United States. Couldn't have done it. Couldn't have done it.

Snoop Dogg is also, quote, anti-violence. Anti-gun.

Well, what the hell is happening here?

LAWRENCE: Uh-huh.

GLENN: His feet need to be held to the fire that he started.

But, Lawrence, will anybody?

LAWRENCE: No. And this is not just about him coming after the president, any president. I think that's wrong.

It's about your word as a man. This is what Snoop said: He's over this no guns allowed initiative. But this is a recent quote from him: He said, I've made a lot of mistakes. I've grown and learned. I don't feel like guns are necessary.

He's totally against guns. But you come out in a video promoting shooting the president. And liberals have been arguing -- debating saying, "Well, it's a fake gun." These are the same liberals that freak out when kids bring toy guns to school.

GLENN: Can you imagine? The class two lookalike finger gun.

LAWRENCE: Right. Right. Right. But this is okay?

He then in the lyrics say, I'm against the young black men that get 20 to 30 years in jail for weed. But you endorsed Hillary Clinton. And she was with the '94 crime bill. So I'm seeing this hypocritical stance, feeding my community this nonsense, you're saying you're against this stuff, but when it benefits you, you're turning the page. He also now has a show with Martha Stewart called Potluck. It's to promote unity.

PAT: Wait. Snoop Dogg has a show with Martha Stewart?

LAWRENCE: Yes. Martha Stewart.

PAT: Talk about unlikely bedfellows, huh?

LAWRENCE: Right. Right.

This show all started because liberals created this meme with Martha Stewart and Snoop Dogg with a picture next to them. Next to each other. And the meme said, which one is the felon? And so it went viral. So they decided to have a show to promote unity. To try cultural food and bring people together.

PAT: That's great. I like that though.

LAWRENCE: You tell me how that's a message of unity.

PAT: Because Martha Stewart is the felon, obviously. That's great.

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LAWRENCE: He just gets a kick out of that.

PAT: I like that. That one, I like. That's one of the few things liberals have done that I like.

GLENN: So you have a problem with that? You don't think that promotes unity?

LAWRENCE: That show?

GLENN: Yeah. I haven't seen the show.

LAWRENCE: The show. If they stand by what they say they're doing. It's like you as Glenn Beck saying, hey, I want to have unity. Then come on your show and say something totally against you.

Is it really genuine, or is it just about ratings and getting more money? Which is cool, just be honest about it.

GLENN: Well, I think we know with those two, it's just about more ratings and more money.

LAWRENCE: Exactly. Just be honest about it. I'm cool if that's what you want to do.

GLENN: See, I don't think -- so here's the problem -- here's the problem with this: It requires you to be intellectually curious, intellectually rigorous, and intellectually honest. I don't think we're any of those.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: I mean, for instance, Stu, you've -- what was it, Monday or last week, we mentioned offhand in something else -- we weren't talking about this. In something else, I said, oh, by the way, Hitler would have been the biggest environmentalist. Right? Because he loved animals. He would have been a member of PETA. He loved animals. Loved dogs more than people, certainly more than Jews, but I think more than all people. And he was a huge environmentalist. And you said...

STU: Living space was obviously the big concern for the German people. They needed their living space.

PAT: Well, that's why he needed to invade Poland and France. They needed more space.

GLENN: Sustainability. He didn't call it that.

PAT: They needed space.

STU: Right. He said they needed more land to grow food for the German people.

PAT: Right.

STU: It was essentially an overpopulation concern, which later became popular in the '60s. But that was essentially what he was arguing. Now, of course, these were also arguments to cover hatred for certain people.

GLENN: Oh, yeah, yeah.

STU: So it's more complicated than that.

GLENN: So I said, he would have been the biggest environmentalist. If he would have had the global warming movement, he would have been right in there with them.

Now, that doesn't mean that environmentalists are Nazis. That doesn't mean that people who love animals -- I love animals -- are Nazis.

PAT: The person who said the thing on the air is a vegetarian. I am a vegetarian.

GLENN: Right. Right. So what happened --

STU: That doesn't make me a Nazi.

GLENN: So GlennBeck.com wrote something. And it was tweeted out. And everybody on the left, "Oh, Glenn Beck, see, look, he's against unity. What a fraud he is, saying that environmentalists are Nazis." No. That's not what I said.

Just because Hitler believed things and would have used that movement that is going on today, doesn't make anybody in that movement today a Nazi.

We're not -- we're not willing to be intellectually vigorous at all.

PAT: It's their fascistic practices and policies that make them Nazis. That's --

GLENN: Okay. Pat, thank you for that.

PAT: I needed to clarify that particular part. Right?

GLENN: Well, in some ways. Not Nazis, but in some ways, what they are saying is fascistic.

PAT: Yes.

GLENN: I will tell you exactly what you do.

PAT: What you can eat. How you can live.

GLENN: I will tell you in China. We agreed -- who was it, Biden, that basically said, we're not going to argue with your one-child policy in China?

Well, I'm going to argue against that. You don't have a right to tell people how many children they can have.

So we're not intellectually vigorous or honest at all.

LAWRENCE: I don't think it's the thinking though. I think it's winning to win. Both sides want to win. So anything that furthers them winning, they just think it. Like with Samantha Bee the other day. Like, I think what she did was wrong. But I know that she didn't know that kid was a Nazi.

GLENN: She didn't.

LAWRENCE: I mean, didn't know that he had cancer --

STU: She definitely didn't know he was a Nazi.

LAWRENCE: Cancer. she didn't know.

GLENN: He was a Democrat.

LAWRENCE: But she was doing it to further her argument. So it's like just a joke.

GLENN: But she wasn't even furthering her argument, she was making a joke. And it wasn't even her. It wasn't even her.

LAWRENCE: Right. I think it was wrong, the whole situation. But I don't want her fired and all that for it. But our side is like, we got to get them back, because they did it to us.

GLENN: Did you see the guy we had on yesterday, Colin Moriarty? He said it was an amicable split, but he's no longer with his company. He's huge, but I think it was because of the joke he made last week, where -- because his partner came out and said, "He says a lot of stupid things that he shouldn't be saying, blah, blah." And he shows up right after being on our show. And then he says, "Oh, by the way, I've -- we've split in our partnership."

PAT: Oh, wow.

GLENN: I think that guy lost his gig because of a joke.

PAT: Wow.

GLENN: I mean, let's -- let's be intellectually honest on things.

JEFFY: Yeah.

GLENN: Thanks for stopping by, Lawrence.