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Marc Giller with The Resurgent recently published an article titled, "Glenn Beck Rebooted," in which he laments the Glenn Beck of early radio days and worries about Glenn's new efforts to heal the divide in America. Marc talked with Glenn on radio Tuesday, having a frank conversation about the nobility of Glenn's goal and how he'll need to find honest brokers on the left --- or be doomed to failure.
Enjoy the complimentary clip above or read the transcript below for details.
GLENN: Let's go to Marc Giller, who is joining us now. He's from theresurgent.com. And he wrote a -- he wrote an article called Glenn Beck: Rebooted. And, Marc, good to have you on.
MARC: Hey, Glenn, thanks. I appreciate being on. Thanks.
GLENN: You bet. I appreciate the spirit of the article, and it's nice to actually talk to a fan who has been a fan literally from the beginning.
MARC: Yeah. Actually it's kind of interesting. Because when I read the Washington Post profile that inspired the article in the first place, I hadn't really intended to go down that direction. But when I sat down to actually start writing it, a lot of memories of the show back in the old days on WFLA just came rushing back to me, and it just sort of started pouring out to me, and it kind of turned into this very, very long introduction. And, you know, once I started rolling with it, I was having so much fun with it, you know, just talking about the Frisbeetarian Church.
GLENN: I loved those.
Those were -- yeah -- for anybody who doesn't know what the Schlub Club was. I used to pit the 4 o'clock audience against the 5 o'clock audience. And I would tell the 4 o'clock audience that they were the real audience. The 5 o'clock audience, they were the schlubs. They were the people that just stroll in. Oh, I'm working. I can't listen. And so let's screw with them.
And so we would plan something all hour, and then I would set up the calls. So when the next people -- when the people got off of work, they would just turn on the radio, and they would start hearing these crazy people calling in.
And by the end of the hour, they would be like, I live in an asylum, and all these people that didn't -- that weren't in on it would call in and go, are all of these people crazy?
MARC: That was the funny part too. Because I was actually one of those schlubs at first. I didn't get off work until 5 o'clock. So I'm driving across the Howard Franklin Bridge going home, listening. What the heck are these people?
(laughter)
You know, it just got so off the chart -- all right. And so I eventually figured it out. So I was in on the joke at that point. And I couldn't wait to hear those every single day. They were absolutely hilarious.
GLENN: Yeah, no, they were great. We've never been able to do them because we didn't know how to divide the show up. Because some stations because of time zones shuffle the hours.
JEFFY: Yeah.
GLENN: And I remember -- Stu, do you remember -- were you with me when I did, I'm in love with my sister? Yeah, you were with me.
Do you remember that, Marc?
STU: Yeah.
MARC: I don't remember that one.
PAT: I remember advising you not to do that.
GLENN: Okay. Yeah. I did this whole hour where I built it up, and I said, "Listen, I want you to know, I'm going to talk about something that I've never shared before." And I did this really heartfelt monologue of the first time I fell in love. And I'm not going to be ashamed of it anymore. And it was up on the Ferris wheel when I was a kid and I kissed my sister.
STU: So disturbing.
GLENN: Yeah. And it was a whole -- it was a whole thing to see if I could sway the audience to be -- to defend brother/sister love. And got them there, until the end, I was supposed to then come in and say --
STU: And reveal it.
GLENN: -- okay. So here's the thing. I'm just making a point here that I can get you to believe anything if I put enough --
STU: If you don't have principle. I mean, it's the same points that we're making today.
GLENN: Correct. If I give you enough love stuff and heart stuff, you're going to fall for anything.
Well, unfortunately, it was when I was first starting syndication. And President Bush had to give a speech about 9/11. And the affiliates all dropped off, literally at the explanation. So for 24 hours, I had affiliates calling saying, we are not running this show ever again.
(laughter)
So, anyway, so your point here -- the reason I wanted to get you on is, your point saying, you can admire Glenn to be the first to say, enough, and take a stand against him. But until he finds honest partners on the left who are willing to share the risk and stand by him, I'm afraid his efforts are doomed to fail.
Tell me about that.
MARC: Yeah. Well, it was kind of -- mostly inspired by what had happened with Sam Bee. Because I -- I heard the -- segment that you had her on your radio show when I was driving out to Orlando. And I thought, well, you know -- I had never been a fan of Samantha Bee. Obviously, I'm a preacher on the right myself. And, you know, kind of think a lot of her opinions are kind of full of it. But listening to that, I thought to myself, well, you know, this is worth a try. Because it's kind of akin to some of the things that I'm going to do in mostly my online dealings with people, especially since I've gotten more into political blogging and whatnot. You can get into arguments with people.
But my philosophy was always going to be, all right. I'm not going to be able to persuade people by putting them down, making them feel stupid, calling them names. And I always tried to deal with them in a respectful kind of way.
So when I heard you and Samantha going back and forth, talking to each other about how we need to change the tone and how we converse with one another, I did respond to that. But a couple weeks later, she's on her show, and she's comparing this poor cancer survivor at CPAC to a Nazi because of his haircut. And it just kind of really struck me because I thought, well, you know, if she really took it to heart, the conversations that you've had, if she really wanted to go ahead and change the tone, she wouldn't be doing that kind of thing. And it just kind of concerned me because, you know, I'm very -- a big leader in the effort that you're trying to do here. And I think you're taking obviously a tremendous career risk, potentially alienating people in your audience. A lot of names being called particularly on the right about being a sellout. You know, I do believe that we have to start someplace. But I'm just really concerned about partnering up with the wrong people who aren't really taking it to heart and who are maybe just using this as an opportunity to promote themselves, instead of actually really starting a dialogue and trying to make a conversation more civil between the left and the right.
GLENN: So I'm thinking -- and, Marc, I can't tell you how I appreciate your attitude and your approach on this.
We've talked about this for a long time. And we believe we're going to have to kiss 1,000 frogs before we find one prince. Because it is difficult to -- I was just on with Tavis Smiley. It airs on PBS I think today or tonight or something. And he said, so why aren't you having more success with people -- and I said, that's my question for you, Tavis. Now, he was very, very open. And, you know, but he has kind of a softer attitude anyway.
But he said, so why do you think it is? And I said, because I don't -- I'm not sure that -- he said actually -- he phrased it this way: Is it because people aren't self-reflecting because perhaps there was nobody -- this is a quote, quite as bad as you. And I said, well, okay. That's one way to look at it.
MARC: I take it he never listened to Michael Savage.
GLENN: Right. Or is it that people don't want to look at themselves? It's easier to look elsewhere? And I could tell you that there are people that, you know -- let's look at Bill Maher. Even Samantha Bee, that have said some really difficult things about people on the right.
Are they looking --
MARC: Oh, sure.
GLENN: Are they looking inside of themselves? I don't think so. It's easier to look outside. So it requires somebody to be humble enough to say, what part did I play in this?
MARC: Yeah. Well, and that was another aspect of the WaPo article that kind of set me back a little bit as well too. Because the tone of it was all, you know, here's Glenn Beck, he's trying to hug his way back into bringing America back together.
GLENN: Yeah, I thought that was an unfair article, by the way. I thought it took some things -- some liberty with some things that that was not the right tone. But, anyway, go ahead.
MARC: Yeah. Well, the thing about that was that it made -- it proceeded from this assumption that it was all you're doing. You know, you can extrapolate that to, it's all on the right side of the political spectrum, where all the hatred is coming from, and where all the acrimony is coming from. And that is not the case at all.
GLENN: I agree. I agree.
MARC: Yeah. If the author, Mark Fisher, had balanced it out a little bit in maybe seeking out some people on the left in talking about how they contributed to the overall corruption of how we talk to each other and how we think of each other in this country, I think it would have been a heck of a lot better.
GLENN: I will tell you, Marc, you're right on the money. And I'm waiting for somebody to do that. And so far, nobody is willing to do that. Everybody is willing to dog pile. And I keep waiting for somebody to say, well, hey, wait a minute, it's us too.
MARC: Well, again, look at what's happening to you. Look at what's happening in your attempts to do this. I can't even imagine the amount of hate mail you get over just this particular subject.
STU: That's just from the staff.
MARC: I posted this article. I'm getting hate tweets myself. I'm just a nobody who writes an article on the internet. So I can't even imagine what that would be like a million fold, like what you're dealing with here. And I think that people on the left, particularly those that make their living in the media and they have this image that they have to uphold are thinking the same thing and saying, holy crap. I don't want that happening to me. I want to give my audience what they want.
And that's kind of what I think Samantha Bee was doing when she was doing her Nazi shtick with CPAC attendees. Is that, oh, well, maybe she got a few hate tweets of her own off of appearing with Glenn Beck or having you on her show. And thinking, well, I got to go throw a bone out here to my listeners or my viewers and, you know, let them know I'm not going all soft on them, right? And that's problematic.
STU: We're talking to Marc Giller from The Resurgent. And, Marc, I was fascinated by that point. Because you're right. It was a cheap joke at the expense of some guy on CPAC. Now, it turns out that the guy has cancer, and there was a lot more to the story. But she didn't know that at the time.
GLENN: And it wasn't her joke.
STU: It was some correspondent.
GLENN: It was the correspondent.
STU: But I was interested at seeing your article. Because you talk about the days of 970 WFLA, the mother ship of this particular show.
GLENN: Yep.
STU: And, you know, those were great times, and they were really funny. But also really harsh.
GLENN: They were mean.
STU: And we a lot of times made fun of the appearance of somebody on the left. And we joked and made all sorts of things like that -- it was a harsh show for laughs. And I remember at the time Glenn saying, in comedy, there's always a victim. There's always a victim. We should just always make the first victim ourself. And so that's the way we ran the show.
STU: But her joke, is that just a funny line that we should all just be able to get over? Or is it really some attack that shows that she's not being an honest partner in whatever was trying to be done here?
MARC: Well, you know, I love to employ humor in the stuff that I write as well. And God knows, that Twitter being the medium that it is, it just lends itself to snark, and I've definitely been guilty of doing that myself from time to time, although I've never called anyone a commie or a pinko or anything like that. But I do -- I really -- one of the things about the mean culture that we have right now, that, yeah, it does make it increasingly difficult to make even good jokes and to laugh at each other because everybody is taking themselves so damn seriously. It's very, very difficult to do.
And I think that, you know, if -- maybe the way we react to things like the Nazi joke on Samantha Bee's show, is because we on the right have taken it to the shin so much from the popular culture, where we're always cast as the fuddy-duddies. We're always cast as the ones who want to get into everyone's bedroom, and we don't want you to have fun. When, really, a lot of that is what's going on in the left these days. I guess it just makes us really mad because we've been the butt of jokes so many times. And that, you know, leftists really typically have an extremely difficult time laughing at themselves. So, you know, maybe that's where we are.
GLENN: I tell you, Marc, when somebody actually hears -- really hears what you just said on the left, when they really hear you, things will change. But they don't so far. I've been trying. And they don't hear that message yet. But once they do, I think we can come together.
MARC: I do hope that that is the case. Because my fondest wish in our politics is that we stop yelling at each other and actually start talking to one another instead.
But, you know, the way things are right now, it's all emotion. It's all ID. It's very little debating the actual facts. How we came to that -- obviously we have the mainstream media that's out there stirring the pot as well too because get some clicks, get some views. People are screaming at one another. Washington is happy with that because they can get away with whatever they want to get away with, because people are distracted with minutiae, rather than taking a look at the big issues and the things that are affecting them on a day-to-day basis. So you do have this entrenched power structure that's in place that has a vested interest in keeping us at each other's throats. So it's going to be really tough.
GLENN: So I only have about ten seconds. What I really wanted to ask you was you said, I think it's doomed for failure. So do I continue or do I not continue?
MARC: No. It's only if you get the wrong partners that it's doomed for failure. The interesting thing about what you were mentioning about Riaz, your friend as well too, is that maybe he's going to be more of an honest partner, but he's less of a celebrity. So he's got less of a reputation to uphold I guess with his audience since he's a more behind the scenes type of guy. So I think maybe you might be more productive with that -- going back to the last segment, maybe you ought to watch How to Look Good Naked.
GLENN: All right. Thank you so much. God bless. Marc Giller from theresurgent.com.
New polling reveals a shocking truth: young Americans aren’t just open to socialism... they overwhelmingly want a socialist president in 2028. Glenn Beck and Justin Haskins break down five alarming surveys showing massive ideological shifts among voters ages 18-39, including young Republicans. Why is socialism exploding in popularity, and what does this mean for the future of America? Are we on the brink of a political transformation or potentially even a national crisis?
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Texas Governor Greg Abbott joins Glenn Beck to expose why Texans are being crushed by skyrocketing property taxes — and how local governments, not the state, keep driving homeowners deeper into financial distress. Gov. Abbott breaks down his five-point plan to impose strict spending limits, force voter approval for tax hikes, reform out-of-control appraisals, empower citizens to slash taxes themselves, and eliminate school district property taxes for homeowners altogether. Glenn argues that property tax is morally wrong because it prevents Texans from ever truly owning their land, and Abbott lays out his strategy to fight both parties in the legislature to finally deliver lasting relief.
Joe Rogan recently warned that we may have gotten to Step 7 of 9 in the lead-up to civil war. Glenn reviews the 9 Steps and explains why he believes Rogan nailed this one. But Glenn also lays out what Americans MUST do to reverse this trend...
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: So if you take what Fetterman said yesterday about how people are cheering for him to die on the left, and then you couple it with something that was on the Joe Rogan show on Tuesday. He was saying that the reaction to the death of Charlie Kirk makes him think that the US is closer to Civil War than -- than he thought.
Now, let me quote him. He said, after the Charlie Kirk thing. I'm like, oh, my.
We might be at seven. This might be he step seven on the way to a bona fide Civil War. Charlie Kirk gets shot, and people are celebrating.
Like, whoa. Whoa. Whoa.
You want people to die that you disagree with?
Where are we now on the scale of Civil War?
Well, let me go over the scale of Civil War, because it's sobering.
Now, none of this has to be true. If we wake up and decide, I don't want to do this anymore!
Okay?
Here's step one.
Step one. Loss of civic trust.
Every civil conflict begins when people stop believing that the system is fair. Are we there?
We're so far -- we're so far past the doorway, we are comfortably asleep on the couch on this one. Gallup and Pew both show trust in Congress, the media courts, and the FBI government are now at record lows.
The Edelman Trust Barometer classifies the US now as severely polarized. Majority of Republicans distrust federal elections. Majority of Democrats don't trust the Supreme Court.
Americans are really united on one thing, and that is the other side is corrupt!
When faith in the rules collapses, the republic begins to wobble. But that's step one. Step two, polarization hardens into identity!
Political disagreement is normal!
Identity conflict is fatal!
But that's what Marxists push. Identity politics. This is when politics stopped being about policy, and started being about who you are as a person.
Have we crossed this one into step two?
I mean, we're neck deep into this. A study on this, from PRRI.
It's a survey, found 23 percent of Americans believe political violence may be necessary to save the that I guess.
I think that's an old study. Americans now sort themselves by ZIP code into ideological enclaves. The big sort: Universities, activists, corporations. Everybody is promoting oppressor versus oppressed.
And that -- does what?
It puts us into incompatible tribes. Opponents aren't wrong anymore. The opponent is dangerous!
If I go back and you look at civil wars, Lebanon, before 1975. Yugoslavia, before 1991. That's -- we're doing that. Okay?
Step three. Breakdown of the gatekeepers. The gatekeepers are kind of like the referees of society. It's the media, political parties, churches, civic leaders.
When they fail, extremism fills the vacuum. Okay. Where are we on this? Have our gatekeepers failed us?
Yeah. I think both parties, especially the left, you know, everything I predicted that the left was going to be eaten by the extreme left, and then the communists and the socialists is now happening.
They've lost control of the fringe of each party. Media transformed, you know, from referees into team coaches. Tech platforms. It's outrage for profit. Universities are not there to cool things down. They heat them up.
Churches. Churches are useless. Useless.
When the referees leave the field, the game devolves into a brawl. And the refs are gone off the field. So there are only nine steps. We're at step four. Here's step four.
Are you ready for this one?
Parallel information realities.
Civil wars don't require different opinions. They require different realities.
I remember reading about Germany, at the beginning of, you know, the Nazi era. How the two new newspapers. One was propaganda for the government.
And the other one, it was the last one that was kind of the holdout.
And they said, you could read them, and they would cover the same thing.
But they had almost no information was the same. Except, that happened yesterday.
Here's what they said. And then everything else was different. That's exactly -- I mean, step four is complete!
We can't agree on facts, right?
Crime rates. Border numbers. Inflation. Election security.
Two Americans can watch the same video. And see opposite truths.
Social media algorithms are creating customized political universes.
Digital echo chambers. Deepfakes. We're just at the beginning of that. And both sides accuse the other of running disinformation machines.
Why? Because we don't have a shared reality. So if you don't have a shared reality. How do you settle any dispute?
On the nine steps, we're up to number five. Coming in at number five.
Loss of neutral rule of law.
This out of the nine steps with, five is the pivot point.
It's not corruption, it's the belief that the law is no longer neutral.
Are we there yet?
Let me tell you the CBS you.gov poll. 67 percent say the justice system is used for political purposes.
I think that's low. January 6 defendants given years in prison, 2020 rioters were released. High profile political figures, prosecuted or shielded based on party.
FBI whistle-blowers alleging pressure to inflate domestic extremism numbers. States like Texas, directly defying federal directives, on border enforcement.
And now, leading the way, with the federal government.
History is really cold and unforgiving on this point.
Once the people believe justice is political! Remember, this is the turning point.
The republic stands on borrowed time. Once you no longer believe that justice is achievable. Step six.
Are we there?
I think we are.
Step six. Normalization of political violence!
This is where violence stops shocking the system. Are we there?
Remember, where violence stops shocking the system. Look at evidence just from Virginia. What they just voted for.
He was calling for the death of a -- a political opposition.
Calling for his children to be killed.
Was called on it, never apologized.
Never said anything other than, yeah. I know. He dug it deeper.
Was anyone shocked by it? Apparently not. They elected him. Here's the evidence. 2020 riots.
574 events. $2 billion in damage. Was anybody outraged by that? Or was it downplayed and excused?
Assassination attempts. Assassination attempts against the president. Supreme Court justice.
Fistfights. And mob actions on college campuses. To silence speakers. Rising to do for punching a fascist or stopping genocide. Depending on the ideology. Online chatter discussing Civil War, national divorce, and revolution.
When violence becomes part of the political language, a nation crosses an invisible line. We're now up to step seven out of nine.
This is where Joe Rogan said, are we at step seven?
The rise of militias and parallel forces.
When a state loses he is monopoly on force.
Countdown accelerates. So where are we on this one?
I think we're seeing, maybe early signs of this.
You're starting to see the -- the states kind of organize these mobs, you know, to go after ICE.
Right?
Armed groups, right-wing, left-wing radical secessionists. Anyone.
Once they start forming their own police forces. Or their own option forces, then you have -- then you have everything really falling apart.
Entirely!
I don't think we're there, yet!
But we're starting to see the beginnings of this.
Step eight. The trigger event.
Civil Wars don't begin with a plan. They begin with a spark.
So where are we?
We're not here yet. The conditions are right. Potential triggers, disputed election in '26 or '28.
Political assassination or major attack.
Supreme Court decision that ignites mass unrest.
Financial crisis or dollar crisis.
A state federal standoff turning violent!
Nothing is ignited yet, but the room is soaked in gasoline. So we don't have seven. We're on the verge of eight, at any time. And here's nine.
This is the point of no return.
When police, military, or federal agencies split, even if no one calls it that, well, where are we?
Well, I just read a story about how with the Mamdani election in New York, a good number of the police force is going to leave. And they're going to go join police forces elsewhere. You also have the tension between the state National Guard, and the federal directives, the state guard and the state directives. Law enforcement recruitment is at crisis lows. The distrust of the FBI, DOJ, CIA. Tens of millions of Americans. I always really respected those institutions. I have no respect for them now. If you have states openly defying federal rules on immigration, drug laws, sanctuary policies.
Whistle-blower claims of internal politicization.
All of these things are in play for the first time in 150 years, people can imagine!
So I give this to you, not to be fearful of, but to know where you are. As a map!
Know where you are.
And hopefully, it might wake some people up, if you chart America on, on the nine step model of Civil War. Steps one through four, completed!
Step five, happening!
Step six, happening! Step seven, beginning! Step eight, just waiting for it. And step nine, avoidable, only if step eight, never happens. Again, I'm not telling you for doom purposes, this is diagnosis. This is a doctor going, I want you to look at the chart.
And this is a doctor saying, I want you to look at -- do you see what's happening to your body?
If you don't stop this habit, you are going to die. You don't have to die. You can stop smoking and drinking right now. You can start exercising. But if you don't, you are going to die.
The question is, are we the nation that says, nah, that's not going to happen to me. Or are we the nation that wakes up and sees our chart and says, good heavens, it's way far more gone than I thought it was. But I feel something in the air.
I'm going to change my behavior. The nation that refuses to look and wake up and stop calling their neighbors enemies, is the nation that fails!
We have to strengthen these things that have already fallen. And, you know what, the easiest one to do is?
Church. Where are you ministers and pastors priests and rabbis?
Where the hell are you?
I think there's going to be a special section for you, when you cross over to the -- because you're doing things in the name of God!
So when you get to the other side, I think there's going to be a special section for those who remained silent. While his rights were being taken away.
You don't own that right.
I don't own that right.
The Lord gave us those rights, and said, protect them!
By you, being the representative, the voice box, if you will, of the Lord, to shepherd his people. By you not standing up and saying, hey, by the way, we have -- we have a moral responsibility to protect these rights for the next generation! By you refusing because you're afraid. Because I think, there's no politics in the Bible! There's no politics in the Bible. Really?
The whole thing is about politics. Is about the moral way you have to live your life.
Calling things as you see them. Calling them back to eternal principles.
He didn't tell anybody how to vote. Render to Caesar what is Caesar's.
But there are certain principles that you have to have, or you lose not only this citizenship, but the next citizenship. The one that really matters. And, boy, if you are doing it because you're a coward, you are in the wrong business!
Get out of the pulpit, and go to work at Jack in the Box.
The House Oversight Democrats recently released "new" emails allegedly proving President Trump lied about his knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. However, Glenn points out a glaring issue with these emails that destroys their entire narrative...
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: Well, let's dive right into the Epstein Maxwell emails. My gosh, Stu!
Why are they trying to cover up that Donald Trump had sex with children!
STU: I mean, it's just clear, as -- as day, in the emails!
GLENN: Yeah. No.
STU: He spent hours with one of the victims. What else could have possibly have occurred in that arrangement? We don't know!
GLENN: And it's -- it's one of the victims, Stu. One of the victims!
STU: One of the victims, that's all we know. One of the victims.
GLENN: Let me read what Jeffrey Epstein wrote. I want you to realize that the dog who hasn't barked is Trump. Victim redacted. Victim spent hours at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned. Police chief, et cetera.
Okay. New information, just released. Or is it?
Because in 2011, 2011, that was released and everybody knew it. It's been out floating around. Here's the change: In 2011, this is what it read.
I want you to realize that the dog hasn't barked is Trump. Virginia spent hours at my house with him.
Why would you redact a name that is already out in the public square!
It's already out!
The memo is already out. The email is already out. It's been out for years. Why would you redact that name now?
Well, because it makes it all of a sudden, new and shiny. Shiny and new. If you don't know who said it, you see victim, and you're like, oh, you see victim. Who is the victim?
I don't know. But when you know it's Virginia, you know this has already gone to court. This is -- she already testified about this!
He didn't partake in any of this, any sex with any of it. It's true. He didn't partake in any sex with us, and I'm quoting, this is from the testimony. But it's not true, that he flirted with me. Donald Trump never flirted with me. Have you ever met him?
Yes, at Mar-a-Lago, my dad and him. I wouldn't say they were friends, but my dad knew him, and they would talk. Have you ever been in Donald Trump or Jeffrey Epstein's presence with one another? No!
What's the basis of your statement that Donald Trump is a good friend of Jeffrey? Jeffrey has told me that Donald Trump is a good friend of his.
He didn't partake in any of -- any of the sex with any of it. He flirted with me.
It's true, that he didn't partake in any sex with us. But it's not true that he flirted with me.
So I don't understand that. But she goes on. Donald Trump never flirted with me!
Okay. So what -- what's new about this?
This is the same girl, this is the same person that -- didn't she work at Mar-a-Lago?
Or she was going to get a job at Mar-a-Lago.
STU: Yeah. I believe she did at one point.
GLENN: Yeah. So we know they know each other. We know they know each other.
We know that at Mar-a-Lago, Jeffrey Epstein would come, and he was poaching the employees. The girls there. To go work for him.
And Donald Trump went to him. And said, "Hey, man. Stop it. Stop poaching people from me. That's not cool. Don't do it." And then he said, "Oh, yeah. All right." And then he did it a second time. And he's like, "You know what, you're out. I don't want you here anymore. I asked you not to do it, and you did it." Now, that doesn't mean that he knew what was happening to the girls or what was happening or anything else.
And even if it did mean something was happening with the girls, he was saying, "Hey. Stop it! Don't take any of the girls or the women here.
Don't do it." I don't believe he knew anything about any of this. But God only knows! And really, God only knows!
This is not new news. Donald Trump, he might end up beating Bezos as the richest man on the planet! When all is said and done!
Because, again, the -- they're presenting this as new fact, a giant scandal. Stu, I don't know if you know this. This is -- this breaking news is a giant scandal.
STU: Yeah. I've heard democratic representatives saying that over the past 24 hours. Yeah. We need to investigate this.
This is shocking stuff. It's a massive scandal. Even ABC News, I heard, pushed back against this. And said, well, what scandal? What are you implying occurred here?
We know who the victim was. We know the victim. Like why. Why did you even redact that name?
And they're like we always redact name of victims.
Do you really? When they're already out publicly?
Not to mention, this particular victim is not even alive.
You know, she sadly died. I mean, it's a terrible, terrible story.
GLENN: Terrible story.
STU: Yeah. She passed away.
A suicide. It was at least the report I believe. But she has a posthumous book coming out. But like a terrible, terrible story.
But, you know, to act as if you have to protect her identity when, number one, she's dead.
GLENN: Is ridiculous.
STU: Number two, everybody already knows who she was, including the news sources, who also have a policy, you would think.
And ABC has a policy. They redact, that was in this type of situation. But it's already been out. We already knew who it was.
So they redacted to make it look like he's with other people who have not already told us nothing bad occurred! You know, and it is an absolutely awful tactic. And at least --
GLENN: I think litigation should follow again. I think he should sue them again. Anyone who is presenting this as new information.
ABC did their job. Congratulations for ABC. They did their job.
They pointed out, this is not new information.
Why would you redact. Why are you releasing this now? And you're redacting a name this -- this email is already out!
You're presenting this as a new scandal.
And you redacted that name. This is completely dishonest. The news media shouldn't even run with it. They shouldn't even run with it. They should have said, old news. Old news. And if you did run with it, you should have handle it had like ABC handle it had. Wait a minute. Why did you redact name.
What do you mean that there's a new scandal. She already testified exactly opposite of what you're believing Jeffrey Epstein over the victim right now. I just want to make sure you understand the Democrats right here. You're taking the name of Epstein, over the victim.
Oh, okay. All right.
STU: And Epstein doesn't even say that anything occurred.
GLENN: No.
STU: There's not -- it's just -- it would be something you would have to jump to a conclusion, to accuse Donald Trump of something like this.
And we know what happened, because the victim said nothing!
Said, it was nothing!
GLENN: Right.
STU: In fact, it wasn't even a flirtation. Which, by the way, even that, you might have thought was creepy. It wasn't even a crime.
It wasn't even flirtation. So it's a disgrace in every single way.
GLENN: All right. So let me take you here. Let me take you here.
If you remember when the shutdown first started, what did the Democrats say, the reason why they did the shutdown?
Not them! Why Mike Johnson and everybody else wouldn't negotiate!
Why wouldn't -- why wouldn't the Republicans negotiate?
Because the heat was on, to release the Epstein files.
And they didn't want to have to do that. So they shut the government down!
Okay?
They wouldn't negotiate. You didn't hear any of this? Oh, it's so arrogant.
STU: It doesn't make any sense at all. That's probably what they said.
GLENN: I know. I know. So the government is open, and what does Mike Johnson do yesterday?
He said the House is going to vote on a bill to release all of the files related to the late financier, convicted child sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein next week. He said on Wednesday that a discharge position to bypass leadership and force a vote on the bill, hit the benchmark for needed signatures. It's been decided by him to expedite the vote for the bill, which under the current rules could have been delayed until at least early September.
So he says, as soon as that petition hit, the needed 218 signatures, I brought it up. Unanimous consent. Let's go! Release it.
So he's pushing this forward. Good, Mike!
Release all of it. Thank you!
Get it out. Lance this boil.
I mean, if anybody thinks that you're ever going to get the truth on this in the first place, it's madness. It's madness. Everybody -- I mean, so many important people were involved in this, and it was in the hands of the Democrats for the longest time. Okay?
So they had all of this information. You don't think it was all picked through? And if there was anything about Donald Trump, you don't think that would have come up between 2020 and 2024?
There's nothing in there about Donald Trump. These people are so stupid. This time, we've got him, boys. This time, we've got him.
No, you don't. This time, it's like Wile E. Coyote. This time, we've got the Roadrunner!
No. You're never going to catch him on this. It doesn't work. The guy was the most investigated person in the history of the world, and you've got nothing! Now, it's good to come out.
But if you think you're going to catch a bunch of people on the left, you're not going to. Because they had it, you know, in their possession.
You don't think all of the names were taken out? You don't think things were destroyed, if there was anything? I believe there was something. But I don't believe there's any names in it anymore. You're not going to get the truth on this one. You're just not going to get the truth, but release everything that we have. Everything!
Oh. Oh, by the way, also in the Epstein emails. How come nobody is talking about this one, Stu?
This one is from Michael Wolff, to Jeffrey Epstein. And then Jeffrey Epstein responds.
So Michael Wolff writes, "What's the thumbnail on Nes Baum (phonetic) Foster?"
And Jeffrey Epstein writes back, "Nes Baum White House Counsel, dot, dot, dot, Hillary doing naughties with Vince."
Now, Vince Foster killed himself, you know, and then killed himself at the White House. And then drug himself across the street to the park.
I mean, I don't know -- the Vince Foster thing is so old. And it doesn't -- but why is nobody talking about that one?
Why is no one talking about that?
Also, this the Jeffrey Epstein email bundle, ABC, you don't feel that's necessary to bring that one up?
Huh. Interesting.
