GLENNMarch 21, 2017

Can a Rebooted Glenn Beck Find Common Ground?

Marc Giller with The Resurgent recently published an article titled, "Glenn Beck Rebooted," in which he laments the Glenn Beck of early radio days and worries about Glenn's new efforts to heal the divide in America. Marc talked with Glenn on radio Tuesday, having a frank conversation about the nobility of Glenn's goal and how he'll need to find honest brokers on the left --- or be doomed to failure.

Enjoy the complimentary clip above or read the transcript below for details.

GLENN: Let's go to Marc Giller, who is joining us now. He's from theresurgent.com. And he wrote a -- he wrote an article called Glenn Beck: Rebooted. And, Marc, good to have you on.

MARC: Hey, Glenn, thanks. I appreciate being on. Thanks.

GLENN: You bet. I appreciate the spirit of the article, and it's nice to actually talk to a fan who has been a fan literally from the beginning.

MARC: Yeah. Actually it's kind of interesting. Because when I read the Washington Post profile that inspired the article in the first place, I hadn't really intended to go down that direction. But when I sat down to actually start writing it, a lot of memories of the show back in the old days on WFLA just came rushing back to me, and it just sort of started pouring out to me, and it kind of turned into this very, very long introduction. And, you know, once I started rolling with it, I was having so much fun with it, you know, just talking about the Frisbeetarian Church.

GLENN: I loved those.

Those were -- yeah -- for anybody who doesn't know what the Schlub Club was. I used to pit the 4 o'clock audience against the 5 o'clock audience. And I would tell the 4 o'clock audience that they were the real audience. The 5 o'clock audience, they were the schlubs. They were the people that just stroll in. Oh, I'm working. I can't listen. And so let's screw with them.

And so we would plan something all hour, and then I would set up the calls. So when the next people -- when the people got off of work, they would just turn on the radio, and they would start hearing these crazy people calling in.

And by the end of the hour, they would be like, I live in an asylum, and all these people that didn't -- that weren't in on it would call in and go, are all of these people crazy?

MARC: That was the funny part too. Because I was actually one of those schlubs at first. I didn't get off work until 5 o'clock. So I'm driving across the Howard Franklin Bridge going home, listening. What the heck are these people?

(laughter)

You know, it just got so off the chart -- all right. And so I eventually figured it out. So I was in on the joke at that point. And I couldn't wait to hear those every single day. They were absolutely hilarious.

GLENN: Yeah, no, they were great. We've never been able to do them because we didn't know how to divide the show up. Because some stations because of time zones shuffle the hours.

JEFFY: Yeah.

GLENN: And I remember -- Stu, do you remember -- were you with me when I did, I'm in love with my sister? Yeah, you were with me.

Do you remember that, Marc?

STU: Yeah.

MARC: I don't remember that one.

PAT: I remember advising you not to do that.

GLENN: Okay. Yeah. I did this whole hour where I built it up, and I said, "Listen, I want you to know, I'm going to talk about something that I've never shared before." And I did this really heartfelt monologue of the first time I fell in love. And I'm not going to be ashamed of it anymore. And it was up on the Ferris wheel when I was a kid and I kissed my sister.

STU: So disturbing.

GLENN: Yeah. And it was a whole -- it was a whole thing to see if I could sway the audience to be -- to defend brother/sister love. And got them there, until the end, I was supposed to then come in and say --

STU: And reveal it.

GLENN: -- okay. So here's the thing. I'm just making a point here that I can get you to believe anything if I put enough --

STU: If you don't have principle. I mean, it's the same points that we're making today.

GLENN: Correct. If I give you enough love stuff and heart stuff, you're going to fall for anything.

Well, unfortunately, it was when I was first starting syndication. And President Bush had to give a speech about 9/11. And the affiliates all dropped off, literally at the explanation. So for 24 hours, I had affiliates calling saying, we are not running this show ever again.

(laughter)

So, anyway, so your point here -- the reason I wanted to get you on is, your point saying, you can admire Glenn to be the first to say, enough, and take a stand against him. But until he finds honest partners on the left who are willing to share the risk and stand by him, I'm afraid his efforts are doomed to fail.

Tell me about that.

MARC: Yeah. Well, it was kind of -- mostly inspired by what had happened with Sam Bee. Because I -- I heard the -- segment that you had her on your radio show when I was driving out to Orlando. And I thought, well, you know -- I had never been a fan of Samantha Bee. Obviously, I'm a preacher on the right myself. And, you know, kind of think a lot of her opinions are kind of full of it. But listening to that, I thought to myself, well, you know, this is worth a try. Because it's kind of akin to some of the things that I'm going to do in mostly my online dealings with people, especially since I've gotten more into political blogging and whatnot. You can get into arguments with people.

But my philosophy was always going to be, all right. I'm not going to be able to persuade people by putting them down, making them feel stupid, calling them names. And I always tried to deal with them in a respectful kind of way.

So when I heard you and Samantha going back and forth, talking to each other about how we need to change the tone and how we converse with one another, I did respond to that. But a couple weeks later, she's on her show, and she's comparing this poor cancer survivor at CPAC to a Nazi because of his haircut. And it just kind of really struck me because I thought, well, you know, if she really took it to heart, the conversations that you've had, if she really wanted to go ahead and change the tone, she wouldn't be doing that kind of thing. And it just kind of concerned me because, you know, I'm very -- a big leader in the effort that you're trying to do here. And I think you're taking obviously a tremendous career risk, potentially alienating people in your audience. A lot of names being called particularly on the right about being a sellout. You know, I do believe that we have to start someplace. But I'm just really concerned about partnering up with the wrong people who aren't really taking it to heart and who are maybe just using this as an opportunity to promote themselves, instead of actually really starting a dialogue and trying to make a conversation more civil between the left and the right.

GLENN: So I'm thinking -- and, Marc, I can't tell you how I appreciate your attitude and your approach on this.

We've talked about this for a long time. And we believe we're going to have to kiss 1,000 frogs before we find one prince. Because it is difficult to -- I was just on with Tavis Smiley. It airs on PBS I think today or tonight or something. And he said, so why aren't you having more success with people -- and I said, that's my question for you, Tavis. Now, he was very, very open. And, you know, but he has kind of a softer attitude anyway.

But he said, so why do you think it is? And I said, because I don't -- I'm not sure that -- he said actually -- he phrased it this way: Is it because people aren't self-reflecting because perhaps there was nobody -- this is a quote, quite as bad as you. And I said, well, okay. That's one way to look at it.

MARC: I take it he never listened to Michael Savage.

GLENN: Right. Or is it that people don't want to look at themselves? It's easier to look elsewhere? And I could tell you that there are people that, you know -- let's look at Bill Maher. Even Samantha Bee, that have said some really difficult things about people on the right.

Are they looking --

MARC: Oh, sure.

GLENN: Are they looking inside of themselves? I don't think so. It's easier to look outside. So it requires somebody to be humble enough to say, what part did I play in this?

MARC: Yeah. Well, and that was another aspect of the WaPo article that kind of set me back a little bit as well too. Because the tone of it was all, you know, here's Glenn Beck, he's trying to hug his way back into bringing America back together.

GLENN: Yeah, I thought that was an unfair article, by the way. I thought it took some things -- some liberty with some things that that was not the right tone. But, anyway, go ahead.

MARC: Yeah. Well, the thing about that was that it made -- it proceeded from this assumption that it was all you're doing. You know, you can extrapolate that to, it's all on the right side of the political spectrum, where all the hatred is coming from, and where all the acrimony is coming from. And that is not the case at all.

GLENN: I agree. I agree.

MARC: Yeah. If the author, Mark Fisher, had balanced it out a little bit in maybe seeking out some people on the left in talking about how they contributed to the overall corruption of how we talk to each other and how we think of each other in this country, I think it would have been a heck of a lot better.

GLENN: I will tell you, Marc, you're right on the money. And I'm waiting for somebody to do that. And so far, nobody is willing to do that. Everybody is willing to dog pile. And I keep waiting for somebody to say, well, hey, wait a minute, it's us too.

MARC: Well, again, look at what's happening to you. Look at what's happening in your attempts to do this. I can't even imagine the amount of hate mail you get over just this particular subject.

STU: That's just from the staff.

MARC: I posted this article. I'm getting hate tweets myself. I'm just a nobody who writes an article on the internet. So I can't even imagine what that would be like a million fold, like what you're dealing with here. And I think that people on the left, particularly those that make their living in the media and they have this image that they have to uphold are thinking the same thing and saying, holy crap. I don't want that happening to me. I want to give my audience what they want.

And that's kind of what I think Samantha Bee was doing when she was doing her Nazi shtick with CPAC attendees. Is that, oh, well, maybe she got a few hate tweets of her own off of appearing with Glenn Beck or having you on her show. And thinking, well, I got to go throw a bone out here to my listeners or my viewers and, you know, let them know I'm not going all soft on them, right? And that's problematic.

STU: We're talking to Marc Giller from The Resurgent. And, Marc, I was fascinated by that point. Because you're right. It was a cheap joke at the expense of some guy on CPAC. Now, it turns out that the guy has cancer, and there was a lot more to the story. But she didn't know that at the time.

GLENN: And it wasn't her joke.

STU: It was some correspondent.

GLENN: It was the correspondent.

STU: But I was interested at seeing your article. Because you talk about the days of 970 WFLA, the mother ship of this particular show.

GLENN: Yep.

STU: And, you know, those were great times, and they were really funny. But also really harsh.

GLENN: They were mean.

STU: And we a lot of times made fun of the appearance of somebody on the left. And we joked and made all sorts of things like that -- it was a harsh show for laughs. And I remember at the time Glenn saying, in comedy, there's always a victim. There's always a victim. We should just always make the first victim ourself. And so that's the way we ran the show.

STU: But her joke, is that just a funny line that we should all just be able to get over? Or is it really some attack that shows that she's not being an honest partner in whatever was trying to be done here?

MARC: Well, you know, I love to employ humor in the stuff that I write as well. And God knows, that Twitter being the medium that it is, it just lends itself to snark, and I've definitely been guilty of doing that myself from time to time, although I've never called anyone a commie or a pinko or anything like that. But I do -- I really -- one of the things about the mean culture that we have right now, that, yeah, it does make it increasingly difficult to make even good jokes and to laugh at each other because everybody is taking themselves so damn seriously. It's very, very difficult to do.

And I think that, you know, if -- maybe the way we react to things like the Nazi joke on Samantha Bee's show, is because we on the right have taken it to the shin so much from the popular culture, where we're always cast as the fuddy-duddies. We're always cast as the ones who want to get into everyone's bedroom, and we don't want you to have fun. When, really, a lot of that is what's going on in the left these days. I guess it just makes us really mad because we've been the butt of jokes so many times. And that, you know, leftists really typically have an extremely difficult time laughing at themselves. So, you know, maybe that's where we are.

GLENN: I tell you, Marc, when somebody actually hears -- really hears what you just said on the left, when they really hear you, things will change. But they don't so far. I've been trying. And they don't hear that message yet. But once they do, I think we can come together.

MARC: I do hope that that is the case. Because my fondest wish in our politics is that we stop yelling at each other and actually start talking to one another instead.

But, you know, the way things are right now, it's all emotion. It's all ID. It's very little debating the actual facts. How we came to that -- obviously we have the mainstream media that's out there stirring the pot as well too because get some clicks, get some views. People are screaming at one another. Washington is happy with that because they can get away with whatever they want to get away with, because people are distracted with minutiae, rather than taking a look at the big issues and the things that are affecting them on a day-to-day basis. So you do have this entrenched power structure that's in place that has a vested interest in keeping us at each other's throats. So it's going to be really tough.

GLENN: So I only have about ten seconds. What I really wanted to ask you was you said, I think it's doomed for failure. So do I continue or do I not continue?

MARC: No. It's only if you get the wrong partners that it's doomed for failure. The interesting thing about what you were mentioning about Riaz, your friend as well too, is that maybe he's going to be more of an honest partner, but he's less of a celebrity. So he's got less of a reputation to uphold I guess with his audience since he's a more behind the scenes type of guy. So I think maybe you might be more productive with that -- going back to the last segment, maybe you ought to watch How to Look Good Naked.

GLENN: All right. Thank you so much. God bless. Marc Giller from theresurgent.com.

RADIO

Exclusive: Former UK PM SLAMS Labour Party for possible US election interference

Around 100 staffers for the United Kingdom’s Labour Party are reportedly campaigning for Kamala Harris in America. Former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss joins The Glenn Beck Program with her reaction: "Who's paying for their airfare? For their accommodation? Has that been properly accounted for? Have the receipts been produced?" Because while their actions could be legal, this could become a case of foreign election interference, depending on the money trail. Plus, Truss comments on the leaked plans from the Center for Countering Digital Hate (which has ties to the current Prime Minister and the Kamala Harris campaign) to "kill Musk's Twitter": “It's why we need X. I mean, Elon Musk is effectively the leader of the opposition now in Britain.”

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: The former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Elizabeth. Or Liz Truss. Welcome, Liz. How are you?

LIZ: I'm very well. Great to be on the show, Glenn.

GLENN: Thank you. So I'm sorry. I just don't know.

Do we still call you Prime Minister?

GLENN: Not in person.

GLENN: Okay. Not in person.

So, you know -- I don't know if you remember this. But we met earlier this year.

And we exchanged a few words. But in listening to you speak and everything else, I thought, I -- this problem is bigger than any of us thought it was.

And it is deep, deep, deep in the structures of not only our country. But England, as well.

They're going in a different direction, than what they're telling people.

Is that. Did I read you right?

LIZ: That is absolutely right. It was only -- I've been a government minister for ten years. And it was only when I got into 10 Downing Street, that I understood the full-scale of what we were up against.

Because it isn't just the political parties.

It's not just the civil service.

The left, has successfully captured the institutions, in Britain.

And it is going to be a very, very big struggle.

To be able to change things here.

And, you know, we now have an even worse situation.

We have a socialist government.

GLENN: Yeah.

LIZ: They're trying to cancel free speech. They are trashing the British economy. People are leaving Britain. Millionaires are leaving Britain, at a faster rate than any other country in the world, at the moment.

GLENN: Jeez.

LIZ: So we're in a very, very difficult situation. And the -- the Labor Party, again, for free speech will be aware that they have attacked X. They have attacked Elon Musk repeatedly.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

LIZ: Because that is one of the few avenues where people are really hearing the truth and what is happening.

GLENN: So there is a story that was just released yesterday. Internal documents from the Center for Countering Digital Hate, whose founder is a British political operative, Morgan McSweeney, now advising the Kamala Harris campaign.

The internal plans show the group, in writing, plans to, quote, kill musk's Twitter, while strengthen as he does its ties with Biden/Harris administration and the Democrats, like Senator Amy Klobuchar, who has introduced multiple bills to regulate online misinformation.

So it is showing that something that is in your country. Started in your country.

Partly funded by us. And now brought into our administration.

Is actively working with our administration. And I would assume, in some ways, your administration.

Not yours. But, you know, the -- the administration of Great Britain. To silence speech.

We're -- our governments are in cahoots, doing really bad things. To the public.

Are they not?

LIZ: And just to be clear, Morgan McSweeney is now the chief of staff to the Prime Minister. So this man is incredibly senior within the party's administration. And there have been numerous public attacks on X, by the Prime Minister.

Now, I don't believe that he will succeed if he takes on Elon Musk.

But the mentality, isn't to have an honest discussion about what's happening in Britain.

The mentality is to try and quash any dissent, and stop people talking about the very real issues that are affecting us.

For example, the sheer scale of illegal immigration, into this country.

So we have a very worried government.

And I would be following the US elections. And comments by Hillary Clinton, comments by members of the Democrat campaign.

And it seems to be the same thing, going on. Not only are they putting in place, these disastrous policies, they're also trying to stop anybody from talking about them.

GLENN: I've been talking about this for a while. I've been trying to get people to understand. This is not about left versus right.

Democrats versus Republicans.

This is about elites. And against the people.

And the people know they're being lied to.

How can there be a problem throughout the entire West, of illegal immigration.

At the scale we've never seen ever before, in the history of the modern world. Paragraph and our press, in every single country, is treating it, exactly the same.

As are the administrations.

That doesn't -- that doesn't compute, it doesn't work out, mathematically, to be a coincidence.

JUSTIN: And you're right about the public.

The public understands there is a problem. They really are fed up with the mainstream media in Britain.

The not telling the truth about what's happening, and presenting things in a way that is very far from their real experiences. You started off, Glenn, by saying England is doing this to the US system. It's not England. The English people.

The British people are --

GLENN: Are with us.

LIZ: Very much concerned about illegal immigration.

GLENN: Yes, I know.

LIZ: It's the -- it's the Labor Party. It's the media elites. It's the corporatists, and it's the civil service and the bureaucracy, which does not want to learn.

GLENN: So how much of a role did this play in the destruction of Donald Trump and you?

LIZ: What happened to me was the Bank of England, were -- and they've admitted this since. Were responsible for the market turmoil that took place in October 2022.

But the British media, adopted the narrative that it was my fault.

So they took the narrative, from the Labor Party, from the Bank of England.

And they simply repeated it. And they repeated it to this day.

Even though the Bank of England put out an official report. Saying two-thirds of it was their fault.

Ask what I think is changed about the media.

It's no longer a neutral arbiter. It is pushing a particular narrative. And a particular agenda.

And I see the same about Donald Trump.

If you look at what CNN puts out, they are not interested, in what the truth of the situation is.

You know, even the reporting of, you know, President Trump's visit to McDonald's.

I mean, it just was some ludicrous. Ludicrous media commentary on that.

And I think it is a massive problem.

And it's why we need very strong independent media here in Britain.

It's why we need X.

I mean, Elon Musk is effectively the leader of the opposition now in Britain.

That is the situation we're in.

GLENN: Yeah. He is in Brazil.

He is really all over the world.

He is -- and I don't think he could do it, if he wasn't the richest man in the world.

But he is truly the last gatekeeper. If he goes down, there is -- there is no gatekeeper, in power, currently today, that will keep the gate of freedom of speech, alive.

That's a little terrifying.

LIZ: That's right. And in the United States, you have the First Amendment. We don't have that in Britain.

GLENN: I know.

LIZ: We're in a worst position for the protection of freedom of speech.

And we have seen people very recently jailed, for things that they have put on social media.

GLENN: Yeah. They've gotten.

LIZ: These may not be wise things that are put on social media, but there are other people who are being let out of jail who have committed --

GLENN: I know. I saw a story from England that was a pedophile, got less time than somebody who said something stupid on social media.

That person, they threw the key away. But person who was a pedophile, didn't have the same kind of sentence at all. That's madness!

LIZ: It is madness. What has happened is that our judiciary is no longer accountable. It's no longer accountable the way it was.

And this goes right back to the 2000s.

And it was the government that took away the accountability from our judiciary. And they outsourced so many decisions that used to be made by politicians.

Have now been out sourced to the bureaucracy.

And they are not accountable to anyone.

Not accountable to anyone.

GLENN: Yeah. Exactly what he did here.

So are you optimistic that because this is such an octopus. That, quite honestly, has the -- the intellectual power of the world. At the universities.

Has the money of the corporations. The power of the state. The power of the media.

This is going to be really hard to kill. This is a hydra. Are you -- are you optimistic that the people can win all around the world?

LIZ: The number one thing is the people are on our side. And they are becoming increasingly frustrated. And you saw that in Britain, of the last election, where it was the lowest proportion of the electorate voted for the two main parties because they are so frustrated.

That whoever they vote for, into office, they get the same policies. Because the bureaucrats are still there. So the people are on our side.

And that is our big strength.

It's going to be very important that Donald Trump wins the election, in the United States.

I hear good things, Glenn.

You're closer to the ground than me.

But this is vital.

And it isn't just vital to America. It's vital to the west overall. Because I can imagine what a Kamala Harris presidency will do for things like freedom of speech.

And it is not pretty.

GLENN: Especially in collusion with Starmer in England.

Great Britain. That's terrifying.

JUSTIN: That's right!

GLENN: Can I ask you, the Labor Party is doing something that is apparently legal here in the United States, as long as there's no money changing hands.

I would like to see anybody from Great Britain come and knock on doors in Texas.

They wouldn't really be welcome.

But you have 100 people from the labor party.

Socialist Party now. Coming over to the United States, and helping Kamala Harris, not only through advising. But actually, on the street, working for her campaign.

I've never seen that before. Have you?

LIZ: No. And given the rumination that they're bringing to Britain, I don't know why any American would think, that is what they want, in the United States.

Our energy prices are four times your energy prices because of our net zero agenda. Because we're not doing fracking. These are the kinds of policies, these people are advocating.

So I don't think any American, would want to listen to them.

I think there's a question though, these people who are coming over.

Who is paying for their airfares?

Who is paying for their accommodation?

Has that been properly accounted for? Have the receipts been produced?

Those are the questions I would be asking.

GLENN: If the Republican Party or the Democratic Party came over and did the same thing, how would -- how would the people of Great Britain react?

LIZ: Well, it would be. It would be a problem for the -- because under our electoral law, you have to be a British citizen.

GLENN: Yeah.

LIZ: To donate to the campaign.

GLENN: Right.

LIZ: And if the Americans have flown over. Who is paying for their flights?

That would count towards election expenses, and it would be classified as a foreign donation, which is illegal.

RADIO

Why Kamala's Trump-Hitler Speech Was INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS

Kamala Harris recently gave a surprise address from the Vice Presidential mansion where she used the power of her office to compare Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. It was one of the most disturbing pieces of propaganda that Glenn has ever seen from our government, and he argues that it crossed a line. Glenn debunks Harris’ accusations piece by piece: Does Trump want his generals to abandon their oath to the Constitution and serve him? Can that even happen? Will he lock up Americans who don’t “bend the knee”? Can we trust the source of these accusations? Glenn also explains the one thing that makes this speech even more terrifying: how Harris decided to frame it.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: All right. I want to tell you, yesterday, I saw something that was one of the most horrifying things I have ever seen, because I am a visual guy.

I'm -- I just wrote a book on propaganda.

And I saw something I thought I would never see.

Now, the left and the media has told Donald Trump over and over again, to turn down his rhetoric. I have to tell you, one of the reasons why I think Donald Trump is doing so well, is because he's become a happy warrior. He's not -- he's be the engaging in the kind of rhetoric, that gets people killed. Okay?

But they continue to say, he's got to turn down the rhetoric.

He will get somebody killed.

Well, they are doing so poorly in the polls. You can tell the wheels are coming off of that campaign, at record speed.

Okay?

Because of things like this.

I want to play the full state, coming from Kamala Harris. And show you why this is so bad.

And different, than everything else, that you have seen.

KAMALA: So yesterday, we learned that Donald Trump's former chief of staff, John Kelly, a retired four-star general, confirmed that while Donald Trump was president, he said, he wanted generals like Adolf Hitler had.

Donald Trump said that. Because he does not want a military. That is loyal to the United States Constitution. He wants a military that is loyal to him.

GLENN: Stop!

Okay. Let's just dissect this for a second.

Just what she's saying. We'll get to the rest in a minute.

What she's saying is that General Kelly, I guy who I believe Trump fired.

So has a bone with Donald Trump.

They don't like each other at all.

Experienced this, and is just now a week and a half before this election, decided to come out, with this statement.

Believable? No. Not in my opinion.

You know, these -- these generals were not loyal to the president of the United States.

They have taken an oath, to be loyal to the Constitution of the United States.

And they can reject anything the president says, if it goes against the Constitution. In fact, we are one of the only countries, that insists on loyalty to the Constitution, and insists, there's no such thing as I was only following orders.

Because in our military, you have the responsibility to stand up, to know the Constitution.
Know what you're fighting for. Know what's going on. And stand against it! But you don't sabotage!

Now, Kelly, if that actually happened, Kelly is discrediting himself from the beginning.

Because if that had happened, he should have gone in front of the American people, immediately.

But he didn't. So I don't believe this, in the first place.

Because I don't believe General Kelly's word. I just don't.

Now, did you notice what she said? That General Kelly said. And there's no -- there's no corroborating evidence of this.

If anything was said like this, I would believe that Donald Trump did not say like Hitler had.

I would say, he was wondering why the military wasn't following his commands. And if it was unconstitutional, then they should have said something. That it was unconstitutional. But that's not Hitler. That is following the commander-in-chief. And in Donald Trump's case, something happened in his first term, that I've never seen before.

They were sabotaging him. He would say, we're going this way, with our -- with our foreign policy. And the State Department and generals in the Pentagon were sabotaging that. They were calling our allies and our foes, and saying, don't worry about it. That's not been done before.

Now, she not only says what General Kelly said, that he wants generals. But then, she's adding the commentary, on why he said that.

She said, he said that, because he wanted people to disregard the Constitution. Not loyal to the Constitution, but loyal to him.

Now, is that a fact? Even if the first part of that statement is true! How do you assign his thoughts and feelings?

Because Donald Trump would have denied. Even if it was true, he would have denied he said that!

We know it's not true, or at least I strongly suspect it's not true.

And Donald Trump would know, that wouldn't be a good thing. So he would never say, well, this is why! So she's mixing fact with opinion.

And I'll tell you why that's so dangerous in this case here in just a second.

Go ahead.

KAMALA: Military that is loyal to him.

He wants a military who will be loyal to him personally.

One that will obey his orders, even when he tells them to break the law, or abandon their oath to the Constitution.

STU: Stop!

GLENN: When has he ever said?

He was president before. You could have gotten away with this, you know, with Hillary.

But we've seen him for four years.

When has he ever said, break your oath to the Constitution?

Go get citizens, and round them up?

He's never said that. Ever!

If you know the truth about January 6th, he was the guy saying, you should have troops, if you need, get the National Guard.

I -- I am telling you, this is January 4th!

I am telling you, I think you need the National Guard, there at the Capitol building.

Now, at first, they said, that he never said that.

Until it was proven. And then they turned that into, see, he wanted military, to help out!

Yeah. Not to help out the bad guys.

Why would he be suggesting that to Nancy Pelosi?

Not to help out the bad guys.

But to protect the Constitution, and our social order.

So they try to have it both ways.

She's treading very dangerous territory here. Listen.

KAMALA: Abandon their oath to the Constitution of the United States.

In just the past week, Donald Trump has repeatedly called his fellow Americans the enemy from within. And even said he would use --

GLENN: Stop. What does he mean by that? The enemy from within?

Well, you know who else said that?

Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln. In fact, let me quote Abraham Lincoln. Because I just looked it up today, for some other -- for something in my journal.

If a country, founded on the principle, as pure as freedom, can be destroyed, it will be through suicide.

That's the enemy within! And quite honestly, in some ways, that's all of us! Because we have forgotten who we are. And one reason is because the enemy within has failed to teach us who we are. And, in fact, has changed our history so much, that our kids are confused.

They have no idea who an enemy is!

Because they think the government itself, our Constitution is a triggering document. And the enemy itself is the government!

I think -- I think we could all agree, even the left, because they may say, I'm the enemy within.

We can all agree, that there are forces within this country, that would like to tear us apart.

There are those in America, both left and right, who actually believe in the Bill of Rights. That do not want to tear us apart. That is not the enemy within. Even if we disagree how we get there.

How we return to the Bill of Rights. Even if we disagree.

If we agree, with the Bill of Rights, you're on the right side. Go ahead.

KAMALA: From within. And even said that he would use the United States military, to go after American citizens.

GLENN: Stop. Why did he say that?

He didn't say go after American citizens.

If the country is on fire, this is what he said on January 4th.

If there is a riot, we have to put it down. So use the National Guard.

And if it's so big, use the military, if you have to!

Okay? Now, does that cross Posse Comitatus?

I'm not sure. But you know who will fight against Posse Comitatus, who will say, you can't do that, Mr. President? Anyone who reveres the Constitution, because our military has to obey. They've sworn an oath to the Constitution.

And I think those guys are the only ones. I'm talking about the actual soldiers. Not the helium high up at the Pentagon. Those are the only people that actually look at their oath, and take it as a cred oath.

Go ahead.

KAMALA: Citizens.

And let's be clear about who he considers to be the enemy from within.

Anyone who refuses to bend a knee. Or dares to criticize him.

STU: It's a lie. It's a lie.

GLENN: Stop! I got to tell you, he has been around and spoken openly to, and just would like to be treated with respect.

I'm thinking about the black journalist in Chicago.

He went to talk to them openly.

He wasn't hostile to them.

They came out of the shoot hostile.

Now, who is the one that is trying to put Elon Musk, possibly behind bars.

They are now saying, that Elon Musk, may need to go to federal prison!

He was the darling of the left, until he began to disagree with them!

Who else is trying to put people in jail, merely for disagreeing with them?

Well, Donald Trump.

Gabby Giffords.

She was called a Russian asset. Not Gabby Giffords.

You Tulsi Gabbard.

Yeah. Tulsi Gabbard. She's an enemy now.

That was, you know, working for the Russians.

You have person after person. Robert F. Kennedy.

An icon of that party. Destroyed forever. Because he dare say the king has no clothes. So which one is trying to destroy their enemies. Which one? It's clear.

STU: Can we also discuss how much of a lie this is, that she's saying?

There's a conversation, they're referring to, where he said, the problem is the enemy within.

And we may need to use the National Guard or maybe even the military.

She's saying, it's people disagreeing with him.

Judges.

Lawyers.

She had -- she had several examples there, of people, that he will target in this way.

The conversation is clear, what they are talking about, is people who cause chaos across the country, on Election Day.

He -- Maria Bartiromo. Brings up, what happens if the left brings up, causes all sorts of chaos if you win.

He says, they're talking about murderers, rapists. Terrorists that have come across the border.

He says, those people are bad. But I think maybe the bigger problem are the radical left lunatics who might do that stuff here. We may need to bring the National Guard on.

He's not talking about everyone who disagrees with them.

He's talking about people who are trying to like overthrow the government on Election Day.

Again, the same thing that the left has been saying they didn't want all this time.

GLENN: Right. Now, these are the same people. Kamala Harris is the one, who fought for the riots on the street on BLM. She supported it, and said, they shouldn't stop.

And they should never stop even after the election. She was the one bailing people out, if they were involved in these riots.

So we know she doesn't have a problem with riots. But I believe the American people, both left and right do have a problem with that.

Now, why is this beyond the pail here?

Why has this stepped over a line?

Well, Propaganda Wars.

I
Okay. Can we bring that image back up on the screen? And just freeze it. Put it in a box and freeze it for me.

In case you happen to be watching this program, on Blaze TV.

Let me -- or Pluto. Thank you for watching Pluto as well.

Let me explain why this is so dangerous.

Now, one, they always telegraph, what they're going to do. Or who they are. And I'm going to get into that, deeply in about five minutes.

So stand by. But I want to show you this image for a reason.

First of all, when you see two microphones like that, Stu.

What do you think?

Those particular two microphones?

You have never noticed?

STU: No.

GLENN: I've only seen those used by the president of the United States. Or by a vice president.

Okay?

That microphone setup, is unlike any other setup, I've ever seen, with microphones. Okay?

That's -- that's the system, that is connected to those podiums that travel with the president.

And it's always those two microphones.

Underneath it, is the seal of the vice president of the United States.

To her -- let's see. That would be to her left. It would -- it is the flag of the vice president of the United States, which resembles. Except, it's white, not blue.

It resembles the presidential seal.

Then you have the American flag. And behind her, you have a White House.

Now, it's not the White House, but your average schlub will think, that's the White House.

So why is this important? This is important because this does not appear to be a campaign statement. This does not appear to be her opinion.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: This appears as a presidential, or vice presidential, or official government finding.

Okay? Now, some will say, she's violating the hatch act, I'm not sure that's right.

I will call into a couple of people today.

Because some people say, that she and the president can violate that. Because of their office.

Without the penalties.

I'm not sure if that's true or not.

It very well may be.

I'm not worried about the violation of the hatch act.

I'm telling you right now, that this presidential or vice presidential trapping was selected for a reason. To carry extra weight.

Not to the average person. But to those on the very far left, that are susceptible to this kind of propaganda. And this kind of propaganda is for two reasons. Scare the voters, that are with you. Come on. We need you to go out and vote.

This is not for the independent. This is for their base. Go out and vote. This man is dangerous.

But it is also a message for after the election.

RADIO

What you MUST KNOW about DEEPFAKES before the 2024 election

The state-run media recently went nuts over an AI-generated image of Donald Trump in a Pittsburgh Steelers uniform. That’s NOT the kind of “deepfake” that you should worry about this election. But Glenn warns that REAL deepfakes WILL be a problem for elections eventually. They have already been deployed in elections around the world to mislead people, usually just a day or two before the election. So, Glenn and Justin Haskins, the co-author of his new book, “Propaganda Wars,” give a crucial tip that will help you avoid the REAL misinformation that may come in the form of deepfakes this November.

Order your copy of "Propaganda Wars" at http://GlennsNewBook.com

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Justin Haskins is with me. And we're talking about Propaganda Wars.

And the things that are happening currently now, that we pretty much predict in this book.

But one other thing that hasn't happened yet. But usually doesn't happen. At least in the last year, until the last one or two days.

It takes you about two days, for a deepfake to circulate, and then it's exposed as a deepfake.

All right? So prepare yourself for the October surprise of a deepfake. We'll tell you about it, where it's been done here in the last few months.

In just a minute.

The election. This is from page 150 thine.

The election challenges ahead are daunting. We've already entered the era of election fraud out of the past six presidential elections. Three have resulted in roughly half the country. Believing its candidate of choice, is screwed to the benefit of the other half of America.

If that trend continues, the United States will not survive very long.

There are good reasons to worry as well.

Many news outlets. Only provide viewers, listeners and readers what they want to hear.

Not well-established affects. Some government agencies. Laughter. And courts have been weaponized to serve political purposes.

Technological changes are occurring, that will undoubtedly alter the way people think about elections. As I explain in chapter four.

Algorithms and artificial intelligence are dramatically changing the way we experience and think about the news. They are shaping our thoughts and our feelings, often in unhealthy ways.

That further detach people against reality.

When it comes to our elections, the most dangerous threat of all. Is the one we're losing our ability to trust, what we see, and hear.

As noted in the previous chapter, deepfake images, audio, and video, are reaching a level of sophistication, that far surpasses anything we've seen before.

Now, here's how the mainstream media is dealing with this. Over the weekend, Donald Trump released a picture of himself, as a football player.

Okay?

With what is it? The Green Bay Packers. No. Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, okay. So the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Now, this is clearly not him.

If you look at his arms, he is quite ripped.

JUSTIN: I don't know, Glenn. I don't know.

STU: That's what the picture says. I don't know. So it's him currently, in his 70s.

GLENN: Right. It's ridiculous.

STU: They don't employ any 70-year-old football players.

GLENN: Okay. So this is what the mainstream media is pointing out.

Well, that's a deepfake. That's not the type of deepfake, that you should worry about.

That's not deep. That's just fake. Okay?

Now, when you see your favorite or most hated politician say or do something. Where you can't be sure, it really is him, or her.

The uncertainty will grow, as it will in this election, and the coming years.

At some point, there is going to be a deepfake crisis.

And it could spark severe economic or political instability.

It's avoidable, but only if people soon understand the threats that we are faced with, before it's too late.

Americans also, need to be better prepared to know how to tell the difference between truth and lies, and to recognize the threats posed by large institutions, and powerful politicians, who benefit from the crisis, just as I outlined in chapter three.

Okay.

So then I go into, in this chapter of the book. I go into a couple of things that are happening right now, that have happened in this election in America, that are not game-changing.

But very confusing. One of them happened in I think New Hampshire.

Yeah. New Hampshire.

And it was very confusing.

But it wasn't game-changing.

And people caught it, thank God, in time.

Now, this election, is happening all over the Western world. There are more elections happening around the world, than ever in human history.

This year. We're one of the last. So have deepfakes been used, in the last year?

Yes.

Warning, usually in the last day or two.

Because there's not enough time, to combat it.

So right before everybody goes in for the final day, something is released on one of the candidates, and it shows them, doing something or saying something.

This -- this actually happened in Chicago, in 2023.

JUSTIN: That's right. Yeah. There was a mayoral race there. That was a really contentious race between a more socialistic candidate named Brandon Johnson who nobody thought was going to win. And the establishment candidate Paul Vallas.

Right before one of the front rounds of primary voting, a deepfake audio of Vallas came out, who was -- who was white. Brandon Johnson is African-American.

Basically, talking flippantly about back in his day, cops used to shoot people all the time, and nobody cared.

GLENN: Yeah. He said, cops in my day, would kill 17 or 18 people, and nobody would even bat an eye.

JUSTIN: That's right. And it supposedly came from this news source called Chicago lakefront news.

It was presented as a news story.

It happened right before the primary.

None of it was true. It was a deepfake audio.

None of it was true.

It was circulated widely, right before the election, and Brandon Johnson, ended up doing a lot better than people thought. And then in subsequent voting, because they do multiple rounds. Subsequent voting, he ended up winning!

And it surprised everybody. Now, Brandon Johnson was the, you know, anti-establishment. Socialist candidate. Presented himself to the African-American community, as I'm going to represent you.

Here you have an audio of the other candidate, saying I don't care if black people get killed by cops. Now, we don't know. Because there's no way of actually tracking the specific, you know, correlation, between this and the outcome of the race.

Just not possible.

But that's the whole point.

It creates all sorts of uncertainty, and confusion.

And we don't know how many people were impacted by this.

Maybe not enough to swing the election.

But maybe it was enough to swing the election.

GLENN: I'm going to say something that I want you to remember, in case a deepfake comes out two days before the election. Three days. Or one day before the election.

Even if it is against Kamala Harris, and it is just so juicy, that he's like, are you kidding me?

There she is with Fidel Castro, saying, yeah. We're going to take down the United States of America, and make it Communist. Do not believe it.

Do not believe it in the last couple of takes. It is happening.

Slovakia, the same thing happened this year. This was an audio recording, that was posted to Facebook. On it, were two voices.

One, who leads the liberal progressive Slovakian party. And the other from the daily newspaper. Over there.

They appeared to be discussing how to rig the election, partly by buying votes from the country's marginalized Roma minority.

Okay. The candidate immediately said, that's not us.

This is -- this is manipulated tape. This is AI. It's not us.

It was posted during a 48-hour moratorium, ahead of the polls.

This is a moratorium, where the press and the candidates are not allowed to say anything.

They're not allowed to speak ahead of the poll's opening.

The media outlets and the politicians are supposed to be silent.

That meant under their rules, the post couldn't really be widely debunked.

It was all over the media.

But no one could say anything about it.

Even if you could say something about it, two days is not enough, to reduce the damage.

Especially, honestly, if it came out against Donald Trump. Because the press would -- I mean, the press isn't going to do that anyway.

It would rely on people, that know how to tell the difference between a deepfake and not a deepfake. And I don't have that expertise. Do you?

JUSTIN: No. Now, what's really important about this. Especially as it pertains to Donald Trump. Is that the left, and this is the big theme of this book.

Is that the left, the elites, they're constantly preparing for all these different crazy scenarios, that could happen.

Not just deepfakes. But all sorts of things.

Then they use those golden opportunities. As prince Charles once talked about with COVID.

To reset the world.

This is what they do.

Well, when it comes to deepfakes. We know they are war gaming this out.

We know it. We talked about it in the book. We outline all the things they're doing.

They held a huge event called the deepfake dilemma. Earlier this year.

Where they prepared for -- they got all these government officials together. Democrats. And people in the media.

Alex Whit from MSNBC was there. And they held this event. To war game what happens, hypothetically, if a deepfake, benefiting Donald Trump, produced by Russia.

Occurs just before the election, showing election fraud.

But there really isn't election fraud. Or telling voters, in a swing state, the wrong time or place to vote.

What -- how are we going to handle this?

What are we going to do?

And their solution to it was, we need to set up a network, of trusted experts. That you can go to. If you're a local election official. In the event of a deepfake crisis. So we can talk to you, and we will tell you what the answer is to these problems. All the people involved in this. Are crazy, anti-Trump.

And scary anti-Trump.

One of the main people is a guy named miles --

STU: He was their Trump aide at one point, wasn't he?

He was in the department of -- he was the chief staff at the Department of Homeland Security in the Trump administration.

STU: Right. Right. Yeah.

GLENN: When he was in the Trump administration, he wrote an op-ed in the New York Times, anonymously saying I'm the leader of the resistance inside the Trump administration.

Then he wrote a book, anonymously, about it. Then he wrote another book, not anonymously. Admitting, that he was the guy all along.

He was the big hero on the left. Because he was working inside the government.

In the national security, to thwart the duly elected president of the United States. They have no problem, as we have now seen, with -- with -- they have no problem with it.

JUSTIN: And he's one of the leaders of these he people, who is preparing for this crisis that might break out at any moment! So what happens if this does occur? Even if it's a deepfake that doesn't matter.

Our local election officials are being trained to go to people like that. For the answer to the question, at the final hour.

Well, I -- do you trust that? I certainly don't trust Miles Taylor and people like that to have the right answer. This is -- this could potentially be, and we don't know. Maybe no deepfake crisis happens. But if it does, this is incredibly disturbing.

I mean, talk about unrest. Talk about people questioning the validity of the election, if something like this happens.

If I'm -- the thing I am most worried about is this.

GLENN: And you might think, well, we're so close to the election. No, no, no.

This is when that happens.

This is one of the reasons, we -- we released this book, right on top of the election.

Because there is things in it, you need to know.

Right now. And I must want to risk you forgetting about it.

Deepfakes are really important and very destructive.

And have already happened in this election cycle, with massive ramifications in other countries.

Four billion people voted this year.

And several places, several countries, deepfakes, have been used to sway the election, in the opposite direction, just days before the election.

Be very, very careful.

RADIO

SHOCKING: "Several boats a week" dropping off UNVETTED illegals on California beaches

The Biden-Harris administration claims that illegal immigration is down, but San Diego County Supervisor Jim Desmond joins Glenn to expose the reality in southern California. From September 2023 to June 2024, Border Patrol dropped off 155,000 illegal immigrants into the county, he argues. But although this suspiciously stopped right before the election heated up, Desmond says that tons of illegals are still being shipped out of the city every day by bus to Arizona and every week by plane to Texas. And to make matters worse, “several boats a week” have been dropping off UNVETTED illegal immigrants into San Diego County for months. We have no idea who these people are, he argues, and thanks to California’s sanctuary state laws, local law enforcement can’t do anything about it.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Let's see. We have Jim Desmond on with us.

I look at what's happening at our border. And they keep saying that they've gotten it under control.

Now they're trying to convince people, that it's, you know, lower numbers coming across, than when Trump was in office.

This is absolutely not true. So we have the supervisor for San Diego.

He's on with us. He is the county supervisor, and he has information on Border Patrol. On something that is, you know, now apparently happening, again on our border.

Welcome, Jim.

JIM: Glenn, thanks for having me this morning.

GLENN: You bet. So tell me what the Border Patrol informed you of.

JIM: Well, the numbers are down, but from record highs.

GLENN: Yes.

JIM: We still have more capacity. More people coming across the border, than we can actually handle here in San Diego County.

Or in the San Diego sector.

And what happens, you know, from September of last year. Until June of this year.

The Border Patrol dropped off over 155,000 people. To send sound bite streets of San Diego County.

GLENN: 155,000?

JIM: Yes. Absolutely.

They dropped off over that nine-month period of time.

And we had to absorb them. Or most of them left. And went to other parts of the country.

So they were just dropping off the excess here. In our -- in our transit stations here in San Diego County.

That stopped in June.

But what they have been doing every since, is we're still taking more people in that we can manage here.

There's about three buses a day. That they're taking migrants. Border Patrol is taking migrants in Yuma, Arizona, which is right outside the California/Arizona line. So about three buses per day, and they have about three to four flights per week, leaving San Diego, going to Texas.

Primarily McAllen, Texas.

So it's just smoke and mirrors. What they're doing is they're taking these numbers. They're no longer putting them on our streets.

Which is very in the open. And press and everything else.

Had access to that. And they're hiding them by busing them to Arizona or flying them to Texas.

GLENN: Well, I want to thank. I want to thank them for that. This is -- I mean, if -- if Trump doesn't win, what do you think is coming our way, Jim?

JIM: Well, I think it will go back to where it was before. Where we got several hundred dropped off each day, here in San Diego County.

And unfortunately, we became the number one spot for border crossings.

Or the number one spot for fentanyl.

We're up in one of the top spots for human trafficking.

You know, all of these things we don't want.

It's in June, right before the election, as far as the street drop-offs. That was the most visible thing that we could see.

I think unfortunately, we will go back to the mayhem we had, in the last -- you know, previous months. Where they were just dropping off more and more people, here in San Diego County.

That's what I hear.

GLENN: So you are a county supervisor.

What can you do, if anything?

JIM: Not much. Other than reporting it. What's happening.

And of you with the other things, what's happening here, in San Diego County.

We're getting several boats. A week. Just, where people run up on to our shores.

With boats. And smugglers. And people just getting off the votes. And walking into the -- our neighborhoods. And they just abandon the boats on the beach.

Those people aren't even checked or go through Border Patrol.

They're not fingerprinted. We have slightly no idea.

And that's been happening for months. And if you remember 9/11, was only a couple dozen people. Well, two votes say couple dozen people, coming on to our shores.

And that's happening, you know, several times a week, where we have these people, just completely unaccounted for.

GLENN: It is crazy. Let me play something here that came from Dr. Phil.

This -- he is talking to a special agent with ICE.

It's cut ten.

VOICE: So you're telling me that DHS has acknowledged that Venezuela, for example, is empty in their prisons. And their rehabilitation centers, with the understanding that you get out, if you leave here, and go to the United States?

VOICE: Yes.

VOICE: And DHS has in writing said, we know that's happening. We know they're coming here. We're processing them in. And have no idea where they are?

VOICE: Correct.

VOICE: How many people are we talking about?

VOICE: Millions, and in just Venezuela alone.

GLENN: How does a country survive that? How does a country survive that? How does San Diego survive that?

JIM: We don't. We're getting overrun.

And to be honest with you, the state of California, say sanctuary state.

Which means, that our local laughter cannot enforce immigration law.

So even these people that are getting off the boats and walking into you're neighborhoods.

Local laughter can't do a thing about it. They pull somebody over.

They can't ask them about their immigration status. And so, you know, we're a sanctuary state because of that. There's very little, you know, locally, that anybody can do about this stuff.

So that -- one of the issues. The other thing, that the federal government just did to us, recently.

They gave us $19 million for a migrant processing center, here in San Diego County.

Right after the -- right after the June drop-offs.

They gave us $19 million.

And that's FEMA dollars. That could have been going to hurricane relief.

Right now, we're not using that money at all.

But it's 19 million FEMA dollars, sitting in our pockets, waiting for a migrant center. Which probably, if Kamala wins, we will have to put up right away.

GLENN: Jeez. God bless you, Jim.

Thank you for breaking this news. I appreciate your courage. Thank you.

JIM: Glenn, thanks for putting it out there. I love it.

GLENN: You bet. That's county supervisor from San Diego. Jim Desmond, who posted, I think it was, what?

Last night, or the night before, about what's happening now. They are flying them out.
Flying them out!

Congratulations, Arizona. You get some. Texas, you get some.

STU: It's like Oprah.

Everyone has some under their chair. Congratulations.

GLENN: Actually probably -- kind of like literally that.
(laughter)
Oh, man.

STU: Disturbing.

Glenn's Show Prep

Can a Rebooted Glenn Beck Find Common Ground?

Exclusive: Former UK PM SLAMS Labour Party for possible US election interference

Transcript

Why Kamala's Trump-Hitler Speech Was INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS

Transcript

What you MUST KNOW about DEEPFAKES before the 2024 election

Transcript

SHOCKING: "Several boats a week" dropping off UNVETTED illegals on California beaches

Transcript