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National Security Advisor Michael Flynn reportedly negotiated for immunity in exchange for his testimony. Friday on radio, Glenn and the guys discussed this issue and how the media twisted and distorted a statement made by Flynn's attorney to fit a particular narrative. That being said, Glenn still called Flynn a "shifty, shady guy."
Enjoy the complimentary clip or read the transcript for details.
GLENN: So what is your understanding in the reading of Michael Flynn and this story the way it's being reported?
STU: Well, there's a couple of things. He's saying -- the report is Michael Flynn is going to ask for slash get immunity because he's, you know, got some story to tell.
GLENN: And that part, the last sentence is exactly word for word what was said.
STU: By his attorney?
GLENN: By his attorney.
STU: Yeah.
GLENN: He has a story to tell. So everybody is running with he's got a story to tell. And he wants immunity. That's not exactly what he's asking for.
STU: Right so, first of all, what wouldn't want immunity? And, Jeffy, if you wanted to chime in on that, I'm sure you would have something to say.
GLENN: Can I tell you something? The reason you never want to testify in front of congress? They can take anything that they want -- you are so close to going to jail when you testify in front of congress. Because if they choose to be hostile, they have almost unlimited power on cornering you and then throwing you in jail. No, seriously because if they are hostile to you -- I mean look how many times the Obama administration perjured themselves in front of congress. In my documents from a recent court case, which are out in the open, you will see that we have the department of Homeland Security chief perjuring herself in front of congress. Locked up. Tight as a drum. Evidence she perjured herself multiple times.
But for some reason, the government doesn't want to go there. But if the government decides, congress decides, oh, you've testified in front of us, oh, you've given us some information, and they are hostile to you, look out.
STU: And clearly they would be hostile to flip.
GLENN: Oh, clearly.
STU: There's no question about it. So asking for immunity is a wonderful thing you can do. They don't give you immunity because you ask for it. They give you immunity because they want to get something out of it. So the idea would be if they believe that Flynn has something on somebody bigger than him, which obviously would be Donald Trump.
GLENN: Pretty much -- that's pretty much it.
STU: I guess maybe Bannon or somebody up at that level. But somebody very high in the administration, then they might give him immunity. They've not given him immunity, so there's no reason to believe that at this point. However, there's no reason not to ask for it because you're right. He gets in front of that, you know, he starts testifying and what are they going to do?
They can go -- they can ask him a million different questions. They can try to make him look really bad, they can try to put him in a position that, you know, in the worst possible light. So there's no upside innocent having immunity. That can said, I don't like Flynn at all. He's --
GLENN: No, he's a shifty, shady guy.
STU: Yeah, I think it was a terrible appointment. I think it was his worst appointment, probably. Maybe second worst. And he's -- you know, the idea that he did something potentially illegal is certainly possible.
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: So why not try for this? Trump did tweet some support for him today.
GLENN: So the tweet that came out today was I would ask for immunity too if I were part of this crooked government or investigation, pretty much.
STU: Yeah, he should Mike Flynn should ask for immunity in that this is a witch hunt of historic proportion, and it is historic in that it did happen in the past.
GLENN: Yes, but that's the only historic part.
STU: That's the only historic proportion part.
GLENN: Why is he still doing this? This is not about the election anymore. This is about your ties to Russia. It is not really about the election anymore. I mean, that is a part of it, but it is much bigger than that.
Okay. So what does he say? He basically said, yeah, you know, they're crooked. I wouldn't -- I would ask for immunity too. So let me give you the way the media is spinning this. The media is spinning this Michael Flynn and his attorney have asked for immunity and watch this clip, and it shows the attorney. Michael Flynn has a story to tell, and he needs protection. Okay.
He's going to take down Donald Trump. He's got something on Donald Trump. No. Let me tell you what really happened. Michael Flynn's attorney. Michael Flynn has a story to tell, but he wants protection from an unjust prosecution. Now, that's different, isn't it? Instead of saying I want immunity. What was said was he wants protection in the form of immunity for unjust prosecution.
Now, that leads me to believe that there's a good possibility that the story Michael Flynn has to tell has something to do with unjust prosecution. Or that he's going to say none of this stuff happened. I'm not talking to you until you give me immunity.
Now, he won't get immunity if indeed his story is everything's great.
STU: Yeah, you don't get immunity for everything's great or I did something myself on my own that does not affect others. You don't get immunity.
GLENN: You don't get immunity. The only way they're going to give immunity is if he convinces them that I do have a bombshell, and I'm going to drop it. But I personally think -- remember,
Donald Trump is a great showman. If nothing else, he's a great showman. And I don't think this is coordinated by any chance because that would be illegal. But wouldn't it be a great showman to be able to convince the FBI that you need immunity, and you're going to give them something. And then when you go in, you give them nothing but sunshine and lollipops, and they have nothing. And then your attorney walks out and said Michael Flynn testified. He wanted immunity from an unjust prosecution, and he testified that there is nothing going on, and we demand that those statements be released for the public because he knows they granted him immunity, and he has no problem telling the truth. He told them the truth. I mean, that's just a bomb waiting to go off.
STU: Yeah, people who think Flynn, you know, is -- this is real and Flynn might say something bad about Trump think Trump's trying to get him on his side, essentially.
GLENN: I would too.
STU: I would too.
GLENN: I personally think -- I don't think -- I think Michael Flynn has something. I think Michael Flynn is a dirty -- I mean, look, what was the other -- not Bannon.
STU: Manafort.
GLENN: Yeah, Manafort. Manafort is -- I don't know why Manafort isn't being burned at the stake today.
STU: He's going to be a big focus of this. I think Flynn is actually less potent than Manafort is. They think they can get a lot more on Manafort when this thing actually ends than even Flynn. But, again, both of these people Donald Trump himself.
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: Ejected from his inner circle.
GLENN: I think those two are absolutely dirty. Now, whether that goes all the way to Donald Trump or not, I don't know. But those two -- I mean, we already have the evidence on Manafort from the Ukraine. I mean, the Ukraine did an investigation themselves on other things, and they found that the ruling party, the party connected with Putin was paying him $10 million a year basically laundered money. That's not good. And Manafort never claimed any of that.
STU: Now, this is pretty interesting too. Michael Flynn's attorney according to ABC News, Michael Flynn's attorney, Robert Kelner four days after the election tweeted this. A prediction. Donald Trump will make novel and unusual use of the president's pardon power and underutilized tool of political power.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
STU: Which is true because, you know, the president can do whatever he wants, basically when it comes to pardoning people.
GLENN: Oh, man, if he starts to pardon people. Oh, he pardons people --
STU: You're telling me he won't? If you go in there, and you don't put him -- you don't include
Donald Trump in any of these controversies, and you get dragged --
GLENN: You're loyal to him? I will tell you that I think the people will go crazy.
STU: They used to. In the Nixon days they did.
GLENN: I can't predict what conservatives will do because I know -- I know what this audience is. But I don't know what, you know, the conservatives and wild will do because I think there's a ton of them that are convinced that this is a witch hunt. I do believe that the media is mishandling this because A to a conservative all it conjures up -- at least to me every time I watch it.
Really? Where were you the last eight years? They didn't do this on anything for the last eight years. Nothing.
They would report a story and say, hey, the president said that it was just a couple of rogue agents in Cincinnati that were looking at taxes. And then that was proven to be absolutely false, and they never really covered anything. They didn't certainly cover it like this. This is nonstop -- you know what this is? This is the missing Malaysian airliner. This is about to beat the CNN coverage of that missing airplane. They for some reason have their teeth in it, and they're just not going to let go.
STU: Well, it is something that there is bipartisan support for an actual vegetation into many parts of this.
GLENN: Yes.
STU: And it's not just about Donald Trump. Trump keeps bringing up leaking about this information, but that is an actual part of this, and that is bad.
GLENN: You know that the Russian government hacked into one of the French news channels a few years ago? Do you know this story?
You've got to look this story up and really tell this story from start to finish. The French have been, you know, Marine Le Pen and Le Pen party is funded, much of it is coming from Russia and the ties to Dugan are well documented. They've been trying to push this right all over the world, and they're looking for fascist want to bees or just instability. They're just looking for chaos.
So they have been involved in the French nonsense for a while trying to poison the well over in France and trying to stir up anti-Islamic hatreds.
The Russians at one point, I think it was before one of the elections, this is years ago. I've never heard of this. The Russians actually hacked into the Russian news channel and tried to pretend that they were ISIS and -- yeah, and they did this whole hacking in, and it turned out that it wasn't ISIS that hacked in and took over the sites and was making threats. It was Russian operatives that were pretending to be ISIS. I just read this the other day, and I'm, like, I don't know anything about that. I've never even heard of this. But it was all of the different things that Russia has done.
STU: Wow. That's crazy.
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: And Marco Rubio yesterday said that not only did the Russians try to break into his campaign infrastructure during the campaign, they did it again yesterday. More attacks from Russia from the IP address.
GLENN: I mean, it's clearly happening. And we clearly have to know if we -- can we look into that French story over the weekend? Let's maybe put Jason on this and look at all of the stuff that they've been doing in France because that's not emotional to us, you know? That stuff happened in France, and you're, like, wow really? Let's find out more. Let's really dig into what they're dealing over in Europe because if they're doing it over in Europe, and we know they are, if they're doing these things, and I can't believe I didn't hear that story. There's got to be something to that story that's wrong in the way I read it. But that's what I read. I can't believe that that actually happened because we don't know anything about it. But we are also so isolated here and we don't care about, you know, other countries' elections. But maybe we did just miss it and didn't pick it up. If they're doing them there, why wouldn't we assume they're doing it here? We're the biggest target in the world. Of course they're doing it here. And that's, to me -- I can't believe I'm saying this. But Mitt Romney was right. Russia is the biggest geopolitical foe of freedom and the United States of America.
STU: Amidst suddenly after the election has gone has tons of support from that claim from Democrats. All of a sudden now they understand it. The thing is, it was true then when he said it. And we all knew it was true. And they knew it was true. And they denied it all this time, and they did nothing about it over those four years, and they wound up getting -- they certainly got by the by it, but now they all admit it.
GLENN: Now they all admit it, but they're only admitting it because they want to get rid of Donald Trump.
STU: And many Republicans are denying it.
GLENN: And Republicans, we all knew that was true and now many are denying it because they want to protect Donald Trump.
Let's just deal with the truth.
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Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
STU: Thank God, we are out of this shutdown potentially.
That's the thing today.
GLENN: Yeah. Are we? Are we though?
Are we?
STU: Yeah. The Democrats stepped up. Or folded, depending on who you are talking to. And solved this for us.
GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.
Thank you for that. I appreciate that.
It is -- it's so clear now that all they did was they held this for the election, to try to win the election. And now they're ready to -- to fold. And we are seeing people with real, real problems all around the country.
Socialism is becoming popular because the -- quite honestly, the -- the right is not -- is not answering the question, what do we do from here?
We are in what's called a K shaped economy right now.
And that's what happens after a crisis. When the different groups, head to different opposite directions and locations.
If you think about a K, you think the upper line goes up. And the lower line, that's the -- the up are the people with assets and homes and stable jobs.
And they'll do well.
But the lower -- the lower line goes down.
And that's the people living paycheck to paycheck.
The renters. The small businesses. The wage earners. That all fall behind.
And right now, you're seeing on television, you're seeing, oh, my gosh. Look at, the stock market is up. All of these things are up. Well, that's great. Some rise. Some sink. But the gap is widening here. The K at the very beginning where the two lines meet is very, very close to each other.
But as they keep going, those lines becomes further and further apart. And there is a moment in -- you know -- there's a moment -- how can I explain this?
Remember the old country fairs? You probably never went to one. But maybe you saw it on TV. Where there's a strong man contest. And there's that thing where, you know, you hit the -- you hit the thing with the hammer, and the bell goes up. And it goes bing!
That's what's happening right now. There's a strong man contest going on right now, and everybody leans in to see, oh, will this guy be able to ring the bell? And he takes the big hammer, and he swings it, and the puck goes up, and it rings the bell. Some swing just as hard, and the puck barely budges, okay? Same hammer, same pole, different outcomes. That's a K-shaped economy.
And we live in a moment where the puck is going up for those who already own a house and have investments or run businesses that survived the storm. And, you know, they -- they swing the hammer.
And the bell goes up and rings the bell. But the family down the street, the young couple that is trying to buy their first house. The small shop owner that never reopened. They're swinging just as hard. Just, the puck is barely going up as hard. And the system says, "Try again, step right up. Try again."
And then hands a smaller hammer. A K-shaped economy is not philosophy.
It's not a political slogan. It's what happens when a government prints money like confetti. And then watches inflation climb a ladder that is missing rungs. And then tells you, don't worry. The economy is booming. I'm sorry. The economy is not booming for a lot of Americans.
And there are big changes being made right now of the global level. And I like the changes that are being made at the global level. But we are -- we are forgetting there are too many people that are really hurting right now.
You know, we are going to continue to work and continue to spin our wheels on socialism. Until there is a new idea on how we're going to get out of this problem.
And Donald Trump is working on a long-term solution. But I -- I fear that's not going to be enough.
I heard a crazy idea today about a 50-year mortgage. Oh!
Wow!
So the average person is in their house for 12 years.
And I've got a 30-year mortgage. Which means, I'm not really putting very much into it. Because the bank is taking all of the interest rates for the first, you know, ten years, at least. They're taking all the interest first. And then I don't really start paying my house off until the last 15 years of that mortgage. But now, instead of a 30-year, you want me to do it for 50 years!
Oh! Okay. Okay.
Well, what -- what is that going to do. Well, first of all, it's going to raise the price of the house.
You know, if everybody starts -- I get a 50-year mortgage, so I can afford the house. We have a shortage of houses.
So the house payments. Sorry, the house prices are going to go up because we have a lack of housing. And then on top of it, you're going to double the payment anyway.
Because you're paying all that extra interest. I mean, you're just charging more and stretching it out. It's like, solving hunger by not giving food. But just giving longer straws to people.
Okay. Wait. What?
You'll pay double to the same house. It means double the interest rates. And while your roof has to be repaired, the -- the brand-new wiring that you had when you bought the house, all needs to be redone. The appliances have to be replaced. Everything. The bathroom is completely out of date.
All has to be replaced again. You're still paying on that house.
It's like buying, not one house, but two houses. And it's not freedom.
It is trapping you. And, you know, what really bothers me is, it is home ownership. No. I'm sorry.
It's renting, disguised as home ownership.
That's what that is. You're not going to build equity into a house like that. You won't own your home until you're in your '80s. And if you bought it later in your life, your children will inherit the payments that you have. It masks the problem that we really have. Is home prices. Because we don't have enough homes.
We also have these giant corporations that are buying up homes, en masse!
And then renting them to us!
And we also have prices for the home that is broken from the wage -- a 50-year mortgage is like giving someone a longer plank on a sinking ship.
I'm going to end up in the water anyway.
I guess that's helpful in a strange sort of way.
What we don't understand is these are the conditions in which socialism thrives.
If we keep just trying to say, socialism is wrong! We're not going to help anyone.
There's two things that have to happen.
We, A, have to come up with new solutions for these very old problems.
And the new solutions cannot involve printing more money. Bailing the banks out.
Giving the banks more interest. Or anything like that.
Because socialism is coming with a vengeance. And, boy, I've got to tell you, it is going to have all kinds of answers, because it always does. In January, I will start something new, called the Torch, and it exists really, for one reason. We're running out of time to relearn what our grandparents knew by heart. Okay? The lies that we face today are not new.
They're old ghosts wearing just modern clothes. And starting January, I'm dedicating the next part of my life.
The last part of my career, to education on history and -- and usable things going deep. You know, the thing about broadcast is, you go very wide and very shallow. I need to go narrow and deep at times.
We will still be doing what I do here. Which is bringing you all the news and trying to make sense of it.
But I need to go deep on things. And socialism is one of them.
So we are working right now on new programs and new podcasts, and new -- a new daily rhythm of learning that I've never done before. And some of these shows are just going to be you and me, every single day, just walking through history with a flash light in one hand and the truth in the other, trying to figure out what's going on. But one of the lessons that I think we need in this is a series on socialism, on why it never works, how it happens.
And how the lies always begin exactly the same. This is the kind of work that the Torch is being built for. So let me give you -- let me give you a highlight of one lesson.
On how -- whenever a society gets into this situation, history will show us, a poisoned promise begins. And I'll give that to you, here in just a second.
GLENN: Okay. So let me give you -- with a K-shaped -- a K-shaped economy, the socialists always arrive making all kinds of poison promises, and there is a pattern. And it is so ancient, it can be Scripture. Also, modern enough to sit on the news crawl, as you're watching whatever news you're watching.
Every socialist experiment starts with the same smooth tongue promise: We are going to make life fair.
Unfortunately, for socialists, you know, history keeps impeccable books. The receipts are really, really damning. Fortunately for socialists, nobody ever reads history.
So let's take a quick stop at history for a second. Hugo Chavez is probably the latest. When Chavez took power in Venezuela, it was 19.95. He told the nation, which was boom. It was lake America 2000, okay?
He said -- he's building a new -- a new revolution that would create a classless society. Where oil wealth would lift the poorest into dignity.
Okay?
He had the richest country, besides I think the United States of America, in the western hemisphere.
He said, it wasn't enough!
We need no more hunger.
No more shantytowns. And the state will guarantee your rights. And we're going to distribute the wealth of the rich to the people.
And everybody cheered. And everybody was so very excited. And for a short moment, the fantasy glowed. Because it always the blows for just a fraction of the second.
He nationalized the oil industry. Then he said, poverty he would end by decree.
Well, he ended something by decree.
By 2014, the shelves were completely empty in the stores. By 2016, the average Venezuelan was losing over 20 pounds a year, due to food shortages.
Let me just remind you, that by 2016, they were eating the dogs and the cats in the streets.
Not making that up. Look it up yourself. And the zoo animals in the cages of the zoo were also being cooked up for people on the streets to eat!
Hospitals lost their power. Children died from treatable diseases.
Millions fled the country. And today, Venezuela sits on the largest proven oil reserves in the world!
And yet, people are standing in line for bread while the daughters of the socialists post photos of European vacations. What's happening to the revolution there?
It ended with a ruling class gorging on privilege and the nation digging through dumpsters for meals. That's the way it always happens. It's not an outlier. It's a rule.
Look at Cuba, 1959, Fidel Castro. I'm quoting, the revolution will bring justice, equality, education, and health care for all!
Freedom from American exploitation. Che declared that Cuba would become an example of a new humanity!
Well, what followed?
Well, first thing they did, was they shut down the independent newspapers. They were shut down by 1960. Then they imprisoned people in labor camps for being counterrevolutionary, including priests, teachers, and homosexuals.
Yeah, that Che. Then food rationing began in 1962. By the way, food rationing in Cuba has never ended!
Today, the average salary in Cuba is $15 a month!
Now, the same communist party that claimed to abolish class, created the most immovable ruling class in the Caribbean, and yet the billboard still shows smiling peasants and slogans about equality, while the sons of party officials are driving imported cars through Havana's rotting streets. And everybody else has to fix a car from the 1950s. Remember, the promise was fairness, but result was an island-sized cage.
All right. It was just those two! Now, let's look at Germany. The Nazis were -- national socialists. Hitler didn't sell Naziism as tyranny. He sold it as social justice for the German worker. The Nazi platform, 1920, promised abolition of unearned incomes. Profit-sharing in large industries. Nationalization of trust. Land reform because there just wasn't enough space for people to own their own houses. All in the interest of the common good. It was marketed as a worker's movement. A worker's -- a socialist worker's movement, and it was going to correct all the inequality, punish the greedy capitalists, and restore fairness. So what happened? Well, first the disabled had to go, and the sick children. Because we can't afford to keep them going. And the political dissenters, they were just stopping us from all this progress. Oh, and the Jews, of course and the Slavs.
And the Pols. I mean, anyone who didn't fit the utopian math, they were gone. The promise of fairness became the most industrialized murder machine the world has ever seen. But don't worry. We can also go to the Soviet Union. The grand cathedral of socialist dreams.
Here's what Lenin promised: We'll bring about the complete equality of all citizens, end quote!
The state, quoting, will whither away! Oh, yeah.
The workers will own the factories. The peasants will own the land. Okay. So they got power. And what happened?
Well, none of that. Under Stalin, over 100,000 priests were executed or sent to camps. Why?
Why do they keep going after the religious people? Because the religious people are the only ones that will stand against monsters, that's why.
Millions of Ukrainian peasants were starved under the Holodomor for refusing the collectivization. Read that story. It's horrific. The workers paradise required one of the largest secret police stories in human history. Why?
Soviet Union became a nation where you waited hours to buy bread. Party members, however, if you were in the party, and you were high up.
Oh, you could get anything you wanted. You had luxury stores that were built just for you.
By the 1980s, the system was so hollow, that the most basic consumer goods. Soap. Shoes. Toilet paper, they were rationed or unavailable. And, by the way, the state never withered away. It metastasized into every corner of life. It became everything.
This story of socialism is written in blood, in ledger books, all over the world.
And it always starts with the promise of equity or equality. And it always leads to the rise of an elite who decides what equality means. And every time it fails, they say, well, that was just put in the hands of the wrong people.
No, the key word here is not wrong. It's people. People.
The workers never get the factories. The peasants never receive the land. The poor never get any of the wealth.
And it's this story over and over and over and over again.
Socialism begins with a promise. But always ends with a ruling class, armed with absolute power!
Only the names change.
Did you know that -- did you know in Jamestown, in 1619, you know, that boat that the New York Times said arrived. Didn't arrive with slaves.
It arrived with socialism. It ended in cannibalism. Did you know that the pilgrims tried the same thing?
They decided, you know what, we should put everybody's money into a big pile. You take whatever you be need.
That's the Christian thing to do!
You know what that ended with?
Starvation and death.
By the way, the big reunion tower, the big ball you see in the sky.
That's to mark reunion.
That's the first sociologist town in 1855 in Dallas. Guess how that ended! Starvation!
