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National Security Advisor Michael Flynn reportedly negotiated for immunity in exchange for his testimony. Friday on radio, Glenn and the guys discussed this issue and how the media twisted and distorted a statement made by Flynn's attorney to fit a particular narrative. That being said, Glenn still called Flynn a "shifty, shady guy."
Enjoy the complimentary clip or read the transcript for details.
GLENN: So what is your understanding in the reading of Michael Flynn and this story the way it's being reported?
STU: Well, there's a couple of things. He's saying -- the report is Michael Flynn is going to ask for slash get immunity because he's, you know, got some story to tell.
GLENN: And that part, the last sentence is exactly word for word what was said.
STU: By his attorney?
GLENN: By his attorney.
STU: Yeah.
GLENN: He has a story to tell. So everybody is running with he's got a story to tell. And he wants immunity. That's not exactly what he's asking for.
STU: Right so, first of all, what wouldn't want immunity? And, Jeffy, if you wanted to chime in on that, I'm sure you would have something to say.
GLENN: Can I tell you something? The reason you never want to testify in front of congress? They can take anything that they want -- you are so close to going to jail when you testify in front of congress. Because if they choose to be hostile, they have almost unlimited power on cornering you and then throwing you in jail. No, seriously because if they are hostile to you -- I mean look how many times the Obama administration perjured themselves in front of congress. In my documents from a recent court case, which are out in the open, you will see that we have the department of Homeland Security chief perjuring herself in front of congress. Locked up. Tight as a drum. Evidence she perjured herself multiple times.
But for some reason, the government doesn't want to go there. But if the government decides, congress decides, oh, you've testified in front of us, oh, you've given us some information, and they are hostile to you, look out.
STU: And clearly they would be hostile to flip.
GLENN: Oh, clearly.
STU: There's no question about it. So asking for immunity is a wonderful thing you can do. They don't give you immunity because you ask for it. They give you immunity because they want to get something out of it. So the idea would be if they believe that Flynn has something on somebody bigger than him, which obviously would be Donald Trump.
GLENN: Pretty much -- that's pretty much it.
STU: I guess maybe Bannon or somebody up at that level. But somebody very high in the administration, then they might give him immunity. They've not given him immunity, so there's no reason to believe that at this point. However, there's no reason not to ask for it because you're right. He gets in front of that, you know, he starts testifying and what are they going to do?
They can go -- they can ask him a million different questions. They can try to make him look really bad, they can try to put him in a position that, you know, in the worst possible light. So there's no upside innocent having immunity. That can said, I don't like Flynn at all. He's --
GLENN: No, he's a shifty, shady guy.
STU: Yeah, I think it was a terrible appointment. I think it was his worst appointment, probably. Maybe second worst. And he's -- you know, the idea that he did something potentially illegal is certainly possible.
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: So why not try for this? Trump did tweet some support for him today.
GLENN: So the tweet that came out today was I would ask for immunity too if I were part of this crooked government or investigation, pretty much.
STU: Yeah, he should Mike Flynn should ask for immunity in that this is a witch hunt of historic proportion, and it is historic in that it did happen in the past.
GLENN: Yes, but that's the only historic part.
STU: That's the only historic proportion part.
GLENN: Why is he still doing this? This is not about the election anymore. This is about your ties to Russia. It is not really about the election anymore. I mean, that is a part of it, but it is much bigger than that.
Okay. So what does he say? He basically said, yeah, you know, they're crooked. I wouldn't -- I would ask for immunity too. So let me give you the way the media is spinning this. The media is spinning this Michael Flynn and his attorney have asked for immunity and watch this clip, and it shows the attorney. Michael Flynn has a story to tell, and he needs protection. Okay.
He's going to take down Donald Trump. He's got something on Donald Trump. No. Let me tell you what really happened. Michael Flynn's attorney. Michael Flynn has a story to tell, but he wants protection from an unjust prosecution. Now, that's different, isn't it? Instead of saying I want immunity. What was said was he wants protection in the form of immunity for unjust prosecution.
Now, that leads me to believe that there's a good possibility that the story Michael Flynn has to tell has something to do with unjust prosecution. Or that he's going to say none of this stuff happened. I'm not talking to you until you give me immunity.
Now, he won't get immunity if indeed his story is everything's great.
STU: Yeah, you don't get immunity for everything's great or I did something myself on my own that does not affect others. You don't get immunity.
GLENN: You don't get immunity. The only way they're going to give immunity is if he convinces them that I do have a bombshell, and I'm going to drop it. But I personally think -- remember,
Donald Trump is a great showman. If nothing else, he's a great showman. And I don't think this is coordinated by any chance because that would be illegal. But wouldn't it be a great showman to be able to convince the FBI that you need immunity, and you're going to give them something. And then when you go in, you give them nothing but sunshine and lollipops, and they have nothing. And then your attorney walks out and said Michael Flynn testified. He wanted immunity from an unjust prosecution, and he testified that there is nothing going on, and we demand that those statements be released for the public because he knows they granted him immunity, and he has no problem telling the truth. He told them the truth. I mean, that's just a bomb waiting to go off.
STU: Yeah, people who think Flynn, you know, is -- this is real and Flynn might say something bad about Trump think Trump's trying to get him on his side, essentially.
GLENN: I would too.
STU: I would too.
GLENN: I personally think -- I don't think -- I think Michael Flynn has something. I think Michael Flynn is a dirty -- I mean, look, what was the other -- not Bannon.
STU: Manafort.
GLENN: Yeah, Manafort. Manafort is -- I don't know why Manafort isn't being burned at the stake today.
STU: He's going to be a big focus of this. I think Flynn is actually less potent than Manafort is. They think they can get a lot more on Manafort when this thing actually ends than even Flynn. But, again, both of these people Donald Trump himself.
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: Ejected from his inner circle.
GLENN: I think those two are absolutely dirty. Now, whether that goes all the way to Donald Trump or not, I don't know. But those two -- I mean, we already have the evidence on Manafort from the Ukraine. I mean, the Ukraine did an investigation themselves on other things, and they found that the ruling party, the party connected with Putin was paying him $10 million a year basically laundered money. That's not good. And Manafort never claimed any of that.
STU: Now, this is pretty interesting too. Michael Flynn's attorney according to ABC News, Michael Flynn's attorney, Robert Kelner four days after the election tweeted this. A prediction. Donald Trump will make novel and unusual use of the president's pardon power and underutilized tool of political power.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
STU: Which is true because, you know, the president can do whatever he wants, basically when it comes to pardoning people.
GLENN: Oh, man, if he starts to pardon people. Oh, he pardons people --
STU: You're telling me he won't? If you go in there, and you don't put him -- you don't include
Donald Trump in any of these controversies, and you get dragged --
GLENN: You're loyal to him? I will tell you that I think the people will go crazy.
STU: They used to. In the Nixon days they did.
GLENN: I can't predict what conservatives will do because I know -- I know what this audience is. But I don't know what, you know, the conservatives and wild will do because I think there's a ton of them that are convinced that this is a witch hunt. I do believe that the media is mishandling this because A to a conservative all it conjures up -- at least to me every time I watch it.
Really? Where were you the last eight years? They didn't do this on anything for the last eight years. Nothing.
They would report a story and say, hey, the president said that it was just a couple of rogue agents in Cincinnati that were looking at taxes. And then that was proven to be absolutely false, and they never really covered anything. They didn't certainly cover it like this. This is nonstop -- you know what this is? This is the missing Malaysian airliner. This is about to beat the CNN coverage of that missing airplane. They for some reason have their teeth in it, and they're just not going to let go.
STU: Well, it is something that there is bipartisan support for an actual vegetation into many parts of this.
GLENN: Yes.
STU: And it's not just about Donald Trump. Trump keeps bringing up leaking about this information, but that is an actual part of this, and that is bad.
GLENN: You know that the Russian government hacked into one of the French news channels a few years ago? Do you know this story?
You've got to look this story up and really tell this story from start to finish. The French have been, you know, Marine Le Pen and Le Pen party is funded, much of it is coming from Russia and the ties to Dugan are well documented. They've been trying to push this right all over the world, and they're looking for fascist want to bees or just instability. They're just looking for chaos.
So they have been involved in the French nonsense for a while trying to poison the well over in France and trying to stir up anti-Islamic hatreds.
The Russians at one point, I think it was before one of the elections, this is years ago. I've never heard of this. The Russians actually hacked into the Russian news channel and tried to pretend that they were ISIS and -- yeah, and they did this whole hacking in, and it turned out that it wasn't ISIS that hacked in and took over the sites and was making threats. It was Russian operatives that were pretending to be ISIS. I just read this the other day, and I'm, like, I don't know anything about that. I've never even heard of this. But it was all of the different things that Russia has done.
STU: Wow. That's crazy.
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: And Marco Rubio yesterday said that not only did the Russians try to break into his campaign infrastructure during the campaign, they did it again yesterday. More attacks from Russia from the IP address.
GLENN: I mean, it's clearly happening. And we clearly have to know if we -- can we look into that French story over the weekend? Let's maybe put Jason on this and look at all of the stuff that they've been doing in France because that's not emotional to us, you know? That stuff happened in France, and you're, like, wow really? Let's find out more. Let's really dig into what they're dealing over in Europe because if they're doing it over in Europe, and we know they are, if they're doing these things, and I can't believe I didn't hear that story. There's got to be something to that story that's wrong in the way I read it. But that's what I read. I can't believe that that actually happened because we don't know anything about it. But we are also so isolated here and we don't care about, you know, other countries' elections. But maybe we did just miss it and didn't pick it up. If they're doing them there, why wouldn't we assume they're doing it here? We're the biggest target in the world. Of course they're doing it here. And that's, to me -- I can't believe I'm saying this. But Mitt Romney was right. Russia is the biggest geopolitical foe of freedom and the United States of America.
STU: Amidst suddenly after the election has gone has tons of support from that claim from Democrats. All of a sudden now they understand it. The thing is, it was true then when he said it. And we all knew it was true. And they knew it was true. And they denied it all this time, and they did nothing about it over those four years, and they wound up getting -- they certainly got by the by it, but now they all admit it.
GLENN: Now they all admit it, but they're only admitting it because they want to get rid of Donald Trump.
STU: And many Republicans are denying it.
GLENN: And Republicans, we all knew that was true and now many are denying it because they want to protect Donald Trump.
Let's just deal with the truth.
A former FDA psychiatrist reveals what Big Pharma never told the public: the “chemical imbalance” story behind antidepressants was never proven — and SSRIs don’t fix a biological defect, they numb the brain. Glenn Beck and Dr. Josef Witt-Doerring break down how America became the most drugged nation in the world and how millions are being overprescribed medications that can cause paradoxical agitation, emotional blunting, and even suicidal behavior. With 15% of Americans — including millions of children — on SSRIs, are we facing a public health crisis hiding in plain sight?
Cracker Barrel’s massive public meltdown didn’t happen by accident. Behind the scenes, the company was bleeding institutional knowledge, taking disastrous advice from DEI strategists, and making decisions that alienated the very customers who built the brand. A major board shake-up, the quiet removal of DEI frameworks, and the sudden resignation of a key DEI-linked board member reveal how deep the problems ran — and how desperate the company was to course-correct. This breakdown uncovers what really went wrong, how Cracker Barrel was influenced internally, and why the Glenn Beck interview triggered major internal moves that the public was never supposed to see.
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: So, Stu, you can just questions about the special tonight.
STU: Yeah, for sure. I'm interested in this.
It's a big -- you know, a big special. You're back and forth with it. With them there. Was kind of fascinating. Right?
You have a situation where they -- they do seem to be sort of avoiding the question there on DEI. Is that how you read it? Oh, we lost connection with Glenn. Is that what's about to go?
Well, that's how I read it at least. You know, you listen to that clip of them going back and forth and it does appear to be them just sort of avoiding the question. We should get back to Glenn. Because I know he has this breaking news on this happen. Should we go to another clip on the Cracker Barrel thing, while we're waiting for Glenn to reconnect? Because it sort of sets the stage. You know, it was interesting to see their approach here, which is to try to explain themselves and try to work themselves through what is one of the biggest PR disasters probably in our lifetimes.
And let's go to this next clip.
VOICE: If we came out of COVID, A, trying to hire 50,000 people, we have a lot of our employees, original -- we did -- we lost a lot of very long tenured employees. A lot of them, a little bit older, and scared to come back into the -- into the environment.
And so --
GLENN: That's a lot of institutional knowledge.
VOICE: Oh, it hurt. I mean, it really hurt.
And in '22, as we started opening back up, we had the new menu that we had. So we lost a lot of people. We put a ton of training into that new menu.
Now we're coming back to open up, guests, any way we can get them. We had patio dining. We were testing a rock garden.
They were going to sit out in the landscape. And I always say that co-ed even made Cracker Barrel start drinking alcohol.
Because that's how -- it was out of COVID, that it was like, how are we figuring out how to drive top line sales and try to get a guest in.
GLENN: Okay. So that is a good example of you don't know any of the story. You think Cracker Barrel has never served alcohol before. Why are you shoving alcohol? That's a cultural. So it's easy to think, you're selling people alcohol now. What other values are you --
VOICE: And it's fair.
GLENN: That one, is at least understandable. Now that I understand the story.
VOICE: Yeah. Exactly. And so as we got into '23, I came out of my office administration role, and came into operations.
And I was leading field operations. And the best way for me to describe it, we were throwing Velcro balls at a wall to see what would stick.
STU: And it's understandable. You know, it's easy to kind of look at the Cracker Barrel situation and get lost at how badly it went.
A lot of these decisions come down to the information they had at the time. Right?
And they're looking at the time as a place that maybe people aren't coming into as much as they would like.
They are trying to -- maybe it's fading a little bit. Maybe some people find it's stale.
They think the situation at Cracker Barrel is not one that they're not necessarily trying to get involved with on a week to week basis, like they used to.
Maybe they had those warm feelings of the past. But they're not going in it anymore. Well, we'll freshen it up. We will do all these new things.
This will be great! And you realize, sometimes, when you're in that moment, you hit a -- you hate a vein. Right?
You're trying to do something positive for the company. And you hit a vein, and everything starts bleeding all over the place.
Let me give you another piece of this interview. Glenn Beck, up in the headquarters of -- of Cracker Barrel.
And somehow, I will give Glenn credit. Not eating throughout the interview.
I kind of thought, when they put food in front of him. He would just be shoveling it down his gullet the entire time.
You wouldn't be able to hear him. It would be like talking with his mouth full.
He got through it, without taking as many bites. Here is Glenn with the CEO of Cracker Barrel.
GLENN: Let's just get this out.
VOICE: Okay.
GLENN: What happened to the choices that were made?
I said on day one of this. I remember when they rolled out new Coke. And I thought, that was the dumbest marketing move, the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
We're taking the original formula and ditching it. And let's start over with a brand that people love.
The day this broke, I said on the air, new Coke!
That's what this is. And it was -- no offense. Stupid!
Just stupid from start to finish.
Can you walk me through how that happened?
VOICE: Yeah. Sure.
Look, our guests have every right to be upset.
GLENN: Yeah. You want to watch this. And I -- you know, what I really want to you watch for is a moment where I said to her, are you surprised you haven't been fired yet.
That spoke volumes. Her answer, and I hope it is captured on camera.
But that answer was the first non, you know, when you're a CEO. You know, I've -- Stu, do you remember when we used to have to do really important interviews.
And our PR people would be like, drill, drill, drill.
No, don't say that. Don't say that. And we would be like, yeah. Whatever.
And when you are in charge of a Fortune 500 company. And you're in the trouble that they're in, you do -- you know, you follow the people that you have hired to make sure crisis management. You don't make any more mistakes.
And so everybody was very, very careful.
They were very honest. But, you know, like that DEI thing.
She didn't really answer the question.
Of course, we want everybody to be welcomed. Yeah. I know. But that's not answering the question.
When I asked her, are you surprised you still have a job, and you haven't been fired yet. Her answer spoke volumes.
Now, the other thing that you need to know, that while she didn't answer me on the DEI thing. And I -- I -- you know, I can't tell you exactly how this happened.
I just know that they knew, that they didn't answer the question.
And somebody has been in touch with my people. And said, hey. You might want to watch the board meeting that is happening.
We can't tell you that anything is going to be happening. But the DEI thing may be solved. At the board meeting. That happened this morning. And they were going to release something at 11:15 today.
We didn't know exactly what it was.
We had -- we had an indication that it might be about DEI.
And what they've done, at first.
Remember, in August. You know, they just deleted the Pride pages. And the DEI pages.
And they just got rid of it all, at Cracker Barrel. That is just hiding who you are. The real problem was, they had a guy who was on the board of directors. Named Gilbert Davila.
And he's just resigned from the board, today!
Okay? They had a meeting with the board, and shareholders and everything else. And they voted on all of these people. And they did not renew him. And so he is -- he has resigned.
Now, his job -- he was a member of the standing board committee.
And his job was to assess the social and political risk to the company's business.
Well, who is he?
Well, he's also the CEO of a company called DMI Consulting.
That's a DEI strategy firm, that's been in business since 2010.
So he's one of the guys. He was the guy who, his job as the CEO -- as the CEO of DMI, is to promote, you know, DEI.
To make sure everybody is living up to the DEI standards. So Robby Starbuck, who is a friend of the program and, you know, great conservatives, who has been responsible for -- you know, getting a lot of these people out of these companies, or at least drawing attention on what these companies are really standing for.
He's been asking trial. What does he do to deserve this seat on the board?
Well, that's it. He owned a DEI consulting and strategy firm. That was pushing DEI and DEI advertising. So what's happened here is I think while she couldn't answer that question at the time, because the board hadn't acted, I think it's -- I think it's not not coincidental that the day the interview with her drops. With us.
Which they've known for a couple of weeks. This is when this interview would drop.
They -- they announced that morning, that seat has been eliminated. DEI is gone from Cracker Barrel. So I think that's really, really good news if you're a fan of Cracker Barrel.
And the things that I saw at Cracker Barrel, I'm -- I'm going to tell you some stuff tomorrow.
I just have to make sure that it's exactly accurate. Because I don't want to cause more problems.
For us!
And I want to make sure that I get it exactly right. But there were some things that I learned in the show prep.
And, you know, studying up for this interview.
That no one was prepared to talk to me on camera about. And always says to me, oh, well, there's something there.
And so we have done even more homework on it. And tomorrow, I will tell you about something that you might have heard about. This guy who owns, what is it?
Steak and Shake?
STU: Yeah. He's a big activist shareholder, isn't he?
Kind of against some of the leadership there at Cracker Barrel. I think I read about that.
GLENN: Correct. Yes. Yes.
And he has an interesting history.
And I want to -- I want to take you through some of that tomorrow.
I think by tomorrow, you're going to understand, what you saw with the DEI vote on the board today. Get that gone. That's gone.
The interview that you'll see tonight with Julie. The CEO. She's not who you think she is.
It doesn't mean she didn't make huge mistakes. She says she makes huge mistakes. But she's not who you think she is.
You may not agree with her or whatever. But it's important you know who she is. And what she said.
And the key tonight is that question: Are you surprised that you haven't been fired yet.
And really, what happened after she answers the question. And she's very uncomfortable. Answers the question.
And then she immediately switches topics. And I'm like, wait. Wait. Wait.
Stop. Stop. Go back. Why are you switching topics here?
Because it was an amazing moment. Is she immediately changes the subject. After she answers. And then she comes back, and she he says a few things. You'll see.
And then I bring it back to her again. And she switches topics again. And I'm like, why are you doing that?
Why are you doing that?
And she said a very interesting answer on all of that.
That is one of the most honest things I think I've ever seen a fortune five company or CEO ever say.
It was really uncomfortable. But really, really honest.
I think once you see this. And then I tell you tomorrow about the -- the board member, on the things that I can verify. I'm not sure what we can verify yet.
But the things that I've heard. And the things I think I can verify tomorrow. You will see that -- that I think they made stupid moves. They have really bad advice from DEI people.
And they were set up.
To some degree.
They were set up.
The company was. Not individuals. The company was set up.
I think it will -- I think you will have every question you needed to know about Cracker Barrel and what happened answered.
Texas is becoming the front line of a growing ideological struggle. While courts block the Ten Commandments from classrooms, public schools are opening Islamic prayer rooms as CAIR and other Islamist political groups gain influence across the state. Glenn Beck and Chip Roy warn that this isn’t about private worship, but rather a coordinated movement to weaken the nation’s Judeo-Christian foundations, undermine constitutional law, and smuggle Sharia-aligned norms into American institutions. As judges enable these shifts and political factions fracture, a broader conflict is emerging that most Americans refuse to acknowledge. Texas may be the battleground that determines whether the West wakes up in time.
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: We're talking to Chip Roy about the Islamification of Texas and the United States. What's going to be done. A -- a -- a -- a new attitude from Governor Greg Abbott yesterday. And a new proclamation that came out and said, enough is enough.
On CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood. We're going to deem them terrorist organizations. We were just talking about what's happening with the Ten Commandments. And before we -- before we switch here, one more thing on this -- this Muslim thing. In schools.
You know, we can't have the Ten Commandments, Chip.
However, at liberty High School in the Frisco ISD in Texas, they now have prayer rooms for Islamic prayers.
How is it we can't have the Ten Commandments in Texas, but Frisco ISD public school, Liberty High School, can have prayer rooms, and nobody says anything?
CHIP: Well, first of all, this is the double standard of the left. But let's take a step back. What you just said out loud. Frisco, Texas. Frisco. My daughter was born in Frisco.
GLENN: Yeah.
CHIP: Has now got Islamic prayer rooms, okay? That should concern you.
GLENN: It does.
CHIP: And by you, I mean the listeners out there. Like, Texas listeners.
And, yes, the Ten Commandments case. It's judicial activism. The Supreme Court has upheld the ability to have the Ten Commandments displayed in public form.
Again, the Ten Commandments sits on the grounds of the Texas Capitol. And the case like I said, Ted Cruz litigated as solicitor general. Working for then attorney general Greg Abbott. Governor Rick Perry, and we won that case.
And I think we will be able to win that case, when it goes up, and it's no doubt, it's being challenged in the fifth circuit.
Then likely the Supreme Court would look at it.
With past presidents and say, we have the Ten Commandments.
Look, we have to decide who we are as a people.
And we got to start acting like it. Because this nation has been blessed because we are a Judeo Christian people who formed a country. That is a -- liberal, in the classical sense. You know, republic liberal democracy.
And we allow the full range of views to be discussed. And for people to believe whatever they believe.
And you and I will die on the hill to protect that. To protect the government over the mind of man. But we are also are a group of people that's bound together by a common sense of ideals, in our history, in our founding. And when you break that down, you will no longer have a country. And that's what we've got to -- you know, when those men --
GLENN: Go ahead. Well, you were saying a minute ago. You know, that should concern you, that there are prayer rooms in Frisco, Texas. It doesn't concern me that there are prayer rooms.
What concerns me, this is a coordinated effort to bring Sharia law into our country.
I don't care if you're Muslim. And you respect the Judeo Christian laws that we have. That's what our country are built on.
That's what our laws are based on.
And you say, this is a really great system. Because it allows me and everybody else to worship God of our own understanding.
When you're part of a movement to subvert that law. And to fundamentally transform the United States into something that it is not.
That's when I have a problem! And that's when we should stand up, but that's one of the things that CAIR does. CAIR makes anything that we have said, Islamophobia. And so they shout you down, and make you afraid and try to paint you as a hater.
I don't hate. I don't hate Muslims.
I don't. I do despise Sharia Law, and I despise anyone who comes here, and wants to supplant the United States Constitution, and replace it with Sharia law. That's -- that's a no-go zone.
No. Sorry. Not going to do it.
JASON: And the history of Sharia law. And the history of those inherent to it, which would suggest that that is the goal.
GLENN: Yes.
CHIP: And that's what we've seen borne out in countries across the world. So we should recognize that in carrying out our policies and these activist judges, and they are going to cede the ground. Okay?
In the name of the First Amendment, they are going to cede the ground with a supposedly secular society.
And, you know, essentially, genuflecting to -- the Bill of Rights, while walking away from God.
They're going to cede the ground for a world in which we are going to invite those who wish to destroy America, to have a front row seat right here to do it, and we've got to stop those judges.
And we've got to act. And so, you know, the House of Representatives should act on such an obvious case like Boasberg.
We should -- and I know that my religious liberty friends will do that on the Ten Commandments.
And they're going to be litigating that. And I will be quite confident the state will litigate that to defend the state law and defend the schools.
Then you go to the -- you know, redistricting opinion. Right? It's really extraordinary. I don't know if you read the scathing rebuke of the two judges. The -- particularly, the one judge, Judge Brown by Jerry Smith, right? Who was dissenting judge in the three-judge panel. So for those of you who don't understand, when you have a case on the redistricting issues. Right? It goes to a three-judge panel. And this three-judge panel, it was a two-to-one opinion, and it was a Democrat appointee. Appointed judge.
It was a Trump-appointed judge. Judge Brown. And then Judge Jerry Smith, who has been on the bench for a long time. Very respected, conservative --
GLENN: Thirty-seven years.
CHIP: Yes, and Jerry was basically cut out. They didn't do their normal deliberation. He wrote a scathing letter yesterday.
In addition to them filing a dissent. Because he was blocked out of the process.
It was an extraordinary essentially power grab by the two judges.
Just to run this thing through. I don't think the Supreme Court will take kindly to that.
I think that the stay application that will be filed with the United States Supreme Court. I think that by tomorrow. They filed the stay last night with the strict.
In the district court.
But I think they will go to the Supreme Court, with the stay, probably tomorrow.
That attorney general Paxton and Abbott to strategize for the timing.
But I think that's right.
And, you know, I think the you court. Judge Roberts, his faults on many opinions, has been pretty good on race. You'll remember, the Supreme Court opinion that -- that struck down the abhorrent, you know, language in section five that was unconstitutional, Voting Rights Act. And they cleaned that up.
And in that opinion, Robert said, that divvying us up by race was a distorted business. That was his quote. And I think Roberts will be on the right side of this. I hope so.
Because this is very clearly political exercise by the legislature.
The judges tried to indicate that it was racial gerrymandering. No! It's the opposite.
Texas is trying to undo racial gerrymandering, which we believe is unconstitutional on its face. You've got California out there, who is taking five of the nine Republican seats away.
So it's currently, what?
I think, what? 45 to nine?
And it's now going to be something like 50 to four? My numbers may be off one or two. It's crazy.
And then in Texas, we were kind of trying to rebalance it a little bit.
Add four or five new states. A lot of growth in Texas. And now, they will say, that that's somehow not profitable. Because we somehow are doing racial gerrymandering.
We're undoing I think racial gerrymandering with a politically motivated goal of having more Republican seats in a very Republican state. So I hope the Supreme Court sees this for what it is.
And issues a statement. You know, we'll have to see what they do.
GLENN: Let me take to you Washington again. This Comey thing is driving me out of my mind.
Because once again, here's somebody, that looks like they will not pay a price for anything.
James Comey. A judge has said that the government has screwed this -- this up. In gathering information.
And filing.
And so now it looks like the Comey case will not move forward. Any thoughts on this?
CHIP: Well, look, I have not had a chance to dive into this as deeply. I know that the district Judge Nachmanoff, or whatever the judge's name was. Pressed, you know -- this -- this opinion forward.
And, you know -- or I'm sorry. Not pressed the opinion. Pressed prosecutors. A hearing.
And I don't know what the exact result is going to be.
The Biden appointee. And, you know, we're -- we're going it to see what the result is.
Obviously, Comey, we believe lied to I think the Senate judiciary committee, among others. Under oath.
And that is, in fact, an indictable offense.
And so, you know, I'll go look and see what they're claiming in terms of whether the grand jury got to see the final indictment.
Or whatever these issues are.
Obviously, the former prosecutor is important. You have to follow the procedures.
GLENN: You have to.
CHIP: Do it right. But also can't lose the forest for the trees. I think Comey very clearly lied. And so, we're going to -- hopefully, this will proceed. That's about all I've got on that one.
GLENN: All right. Chip, thank you very much. If anyone wants to get involved in your campaign for Texas attorney general, how do they do it?
CHIP: ChipRoy.com. C-H-I-P-R-O-Y.com. You can follow me at Chip Roy TX on X/Twitter.
And, Glenn, always appreciate what you're doing out there. Thanks for being on the tip of the spear. And the forefront of talking about this important issue. About defending Western civilization.
And all the issues. I'm deeply appreciative.
GLENN: I tell you, Chip. I -- I've been saying recently -- I've been saying it for a while, since I wrote the chalkboard on what was going to happen, back on Fox days. And I said, all these people will gather. And then they'll sort it out.
Once they think they have it, they will start eating each other.
And they're starting to see that with the left now eating the Democrats. So Democrats are over. Now it's just going to be Marxists. But it will come down to the Marxists and the anarchists and the Islamists. And as I said then, in the end, it will just be the Islamists, against the Western world.
Because I would bet on people who believe something, much more than the Marxists.
These people have religious zeal. And they will -- they will eat the Marxists. And then it will just be western world against the -- the Islamists. And I think, chip, we are in World War III.
We have just not declared it yet. And people haven't woken up to it yet.
We are in the beginning stages. You will see history in 100 years from now. Will write, this is the 1930s, if you will.
This is the beginning of a world war, and nobody has caught up with it, yet.
Would you agree with that?
CHIP: Yeah. Glenn, I agree with you. You have, and you were a long time ago -- others have caught up to it. And, frankly, caught up to where you were. And, look, it is one of the core reasons I'm running for attorney general.
Look, I can keep doing what I'm doing up here. God blessed me the ability to fight and make changes up here.
We've done some good things.
Look, we have to preserve in the state of Texas. And the battle is exactly what you said. You can't win a war. If you don't even acknowledge that it's happening.
That's the problem. People are asleep at it. Again, like I said, it's what I last talked about. Because of the reality that you just said.
And that vast network, we have got to follow the money and destroy that network. It's an integrated, related network. You know it. I know it. I can promise you, smart people in Washington are looking at this.
I can tell you, I'm building teams in Texas, to look at this right now. And connecting those teams in Texas and in Washington. And other AG's offices, which is what I'll do on day one of AG. Frankly, once I'm blessed with the nomination, I will be working on it all next year. We will build the team, and we will fight to dismantle it.
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