GLENNApril 07, 2017

Could You Give Up Everything to Rely on the Kindness of Strangers? This Man Did.

Could you give up everything --- your wealth and possessions --- and rely only on the kindness of strangers? That's exactly what TV host, producer and author Leon Logothetis did. After giving up his worldly possessions, Logothetis traveled the world on a yellow motorbike dubbed "Kindness One," relying on people for food and shelter. His book about the experience, The Kindness Diaries, has been made into a 13-part series on Netflix. The global adventurer, motivational speaker and philanthropist joined Glenn in studio to share his inspiring story.

Enjoy the complimentary clip or read the transcript for details.

GLENN: Man, we have spent the last hour talking about the powerful people in the world. Putin, Trump, president of China, even Assad, the North Korean dictator. The most powerful person in the world perhaps doesn't even believe it. The most powerful person that I know is you. If you set your mind to it, and you believe that you can truly make a difference. If all of us do that, the world changes. I'm going to introduce you next to a guy who believes he can change the world by convincing you, you can change the world. We go there right now.

Leon Logothetis, a man running a documentary called the "Kindness Diaries" on Netflix. You can see it, and he's traveling the world on a mission of kindness. I'll let him explain it, but first, I just going to find out who you are. What's your background? Where -- you know, where are you there?

LEON: Sure. So I used to be a broker in the city of London on the outside, I had everything. And on the inside, I had nothing. Emotionally, spiritually bankrupt. And then I happened to cross a movie which is a romanticized version of Che Guevara traveling around South America.

GLENN: When you say romanticized version of Che Guevara, what is that?

LEON: It wasn't the real version. It was the nice version.

GLENN: So I just wanted to make sure you knew who Che Guevara was.

LEON: There was something about that movie that inspired me because he was giving back in a profound way, and I decided I was going to quit my job and start traveling the world relying on kindness.

STU: So Che has done something good.

LEON: Exactly. Any movie. That's why I always preface it by saying the romanticized version.

GLENN: It's amazing because you walked in the studios and said I love your artwork of Winston Churchill, and he just had a quick conversation of Winston Churchill who you adore perhaps even more than I do, and I think Winston Churchill is one of the greatest men to ever Lill.

So for you to say Che Guevara changed my life, it's, like, whoa how does that fit?

LEON: Yeah, and some people say that to me. Che wasn't the hero to me, obviously, but simply just the movie. Have you watched the movie?

GLENN: I have not just because I know who Che is.

LEON: Yeah. Yeah.

GLENN: Yeah.

LEON: And I quit my job, and I started to travel the world relying on kindness.

GLENN: What does that mean?

LEON: It means I had no money, I had no food, I had no place to stay. All I had was my vintage yellow motorbike called kindness one, sort of like Air Force 1 but a little bit yellower. And I would give back to unsuspecting good Samaritans like-changing gifts based on being helped by them, and they had no idea what was going on. And it was really just relying on kindness.

GLENN: So it's kind of like the New Testament make no -- don't worry about tomorrow. Don't worry about where you're going, where you're going to sleep, what you're going to eat. Just go and do good.

LEON: That was the aim.

GLENN: Okay. And what do you mean -- first of all, how were they kind to you? By giving you a place to sleep, by what?

LEON: Yeah. Primarily it was human interaction, human connection. So if I felt connected to someone, and they felt connected to me, they would maybe give me some gas, put me up in their house, maybe give me some food. And then I would go from them to the next person. For example, I met a homeless chap in Pittsburgh who, you know, had nothing, really, except one bag. Yet he offered for me to sleep on the streets with him. He offered to protect me. He offered to feed me. He offered to give me some clothes, and that was an act of kindness based on, you know, he didn't know what was going to happen, but I was fortunate enough to be able to put him up in a house and send him back to school.

But really, it was -- he taught me a really powerful lesson that true wealth is not in our wallets, but it's in our hearts. Does that mean that money's not important? Of course not. Money is very important. But the truest of wealth comes from in here.

GLENN: So how do you mean you were lucky enough to be able to send him back to school and put him up in a house?

LEON: Sure. So I've had many opportunities, you know? I worked in the city of London, I had financial security. So what I mean lucky enough, I mean I had the means to give back to him. I had the means to give him an opportunity.

PAT: So when you said you didn't have any money, you didn't really mean you had no money.

LEON: I was doing a social experiment in my everyday life of course I have money. But in that moment for those six months, I had no money, and I was relying on --

PAT: Now, did you take your, like, credit card with you just in case?

LEON: No.

PAT: Oh, you didn't?

LEON: No.

PAT: Really? You had no back up plan?

LEON: We were filming the Netflix show, so I had a crew and the crew --

GLENN: And a catering truck.

LEON: A what?

GLENN: And a catering truck.

[Laughter]

You were really homeless.

PAT: Man versus wild.

LEON: What's interesting is the crew would film, and then they would leave. And I have a book there are many moments that weren't in the film because the crew wasn't there. So, for example, with that night with Tony, there was a moment where another homeless chap was having a moment but no one filmed that because no one was there except me and Tony and this other chap.

STU: That's really interesting.

GLENN: Yeah, it is.

STU: So was there a moment when you were looking at this and you were saying, you know, you have this crew there, were the people suspicious of you?

LEON: Sure. Look, I think ultimately I would go up to people without the camera because if you just go up to someone with a camera, they're, like, you know, please get out of my face. So I would explain what I was doing and if they were willing to help or not willing to help, but they were willing to be on camera I would say, look, we have a camera crew. Are you okay to be filmed? That's really how it would go.

PAT: So with this homeless guy.

LEON: Yeah.

PAT: You bought him a house?

LEON: No. I put him up in a house. So he now lives in an apartment.

GLENN: And he's gone back to school? How's he doing?

LEON: Yeah. It's not a Hollywood ending. So, unfortunately, hopelessness isn't just a -- it's not just physical, it's also mental. So he found himself in some trouble, but he's got back on his feet, he's back in a house, and I'm working to get him back into school. But it's not a Hollywood ending. I wish it was.

GLENN: Those are very hard to find. We know -- what's his name. Gardner. Chris Gardner from the pursuit of happiness, know him quite well and those endings are few and far between.

PAT: Rare.

STU: It's interesting to look at that and say -- so you go through this process and obviously the stories are kind of about changing other people. But there's a huge change that happened in you going through this process.

LEON: Without the shadow of a doubt.

GLENN: Who was really helping who?

LEON: I think we were both helping each other, you know? That's the reality. I mean, when I did the journey, when you get such kindness, when you meet people who open their hearts up in such a beautiful way, you can't help but be changed. And I was definitely changed. I was changed by Tony.

GLENN: How?

LEON: Because he had nothing. Yet he had everything. And it was like the opposite of me because on the outside, I had everything. On the inside, I had nothing. And this chap on the inside had everything and the outside had nothing.

GLENN: What do you mean by everything?

LEON: He came from his heart. He showed kindness. He was open hearted, and I think many of us live up here. I know that I did. And he taught me how to live down here. It wasn't just like that. It wasn't just like I met Tony, and it all changed. But it was kind of the catalyst. It was another moment, like, whoa there's a chap that has nothing on the outside, and we're taught that you have to have everything on the outside. Don't get me wrong. Living on the streets is not fun. This guy was doing it for years, many people do it for their whole lives.

GLENN: You said it all when he said he would protect you.

LEON: Yes.

GLENN: To me, that's, you know -- I'm sorry I know you're British but to say chap doesn't even -- it dresses hopelessness up too much for an American. Were you afraid -- you know, because that is a part of being homeless. It's extraordinarily dangerous. Mental illness is a real problem with hopelessness. Some people are homeless for a reason. They are social misfits, and they like being social misfits. The drugs. I mean, it's a dangerous world.

LEON: That's a great question, and I was told specifically on that night not to stay in this specific park. And prior to meeting Tony. I was walking the streets and said, look, don't stay in this park past sundown. Yet when I met him, he said to me you can stay with me. Every part of my body was, like, do not stay on the streets of Pittsburgh. But there was this one little small voice that said "You have to stay with this man."

And I followed that voice, and it was correct because like I said, he did protect me. And my intuition just guided me to that moment.

GLENN: Are you a religious man at all?

LEON: I wouldn't say religious.

GLENN: Spiritual?

LEON: Faith spiritually, yes.

GLENN: Is that new for you?

LEON: It was, yes. It's not anymore. But it was. I believe you can't have experiences like that with Tony and not change, and not --

GLENN: Not feel that you're connected somehow.

LEON: Exactly.

GLENN: Yeah.

PAT: Did you spend nights without, like, a place to live, a place to stay and days without food?

LEON: Yes. Not days without food. I would always find someone to give me food. But there were times --

PAT: Every day somebody gave you food?

LEON: Yes. Yes. It's truly amazing.

PAT: Just sometimes you didn't have a shelter?

LEON: Exactly.

GLENN: There was a study that came out that said while the wealthy do give, the proportion is way out of whack. The poorer you are, the more likely you are to give big. You know, you'll give half of what you have. Did you find a difference while you were on the street? Did you -- what did you learn about giving?

LEON: Look, what I learned was that people who don't have a lot often have a sense of community that people who have a lot don't have. And when you have this sense of community, you just give. I was in India, and I end up sleeping in the slums with this richer driver and his family. And although on the outside I would never want to sleep in the slums. I would never want to sleep in the slums. There was just a peace of mind.

GLENN: When you say slums, people have no idea what Indian slums are. That's poverty.

LEON: Raw sewage in the streets.

STU: We have a problem when my car almost never recognizes what I said. I imagine going through this, those types of problems are put in a completely different perspective for you now.

GLENN: When you went back, were you a little grossed out by your former lifestyle?

LEON: I was grossed out by the way that I was living on the outside. I was grossed out by the fact that I had no -- in those days -- sense of connection. I was grossed out by the fact that I didn't have a sense of community. That I wasn't coming from my heart. That I wasn't being kind. That I was focused on one thing and that was just making money. There's nothing wrong with making money. But when you just make money and you don't come from your heart and you don't give back, that grossed me out.

GLENN: You having a hard time holding it?

LEON: What do you mean?

GLENN: You having a hard time going back into the world and holding tight to what you had when you were on the streets?

LEON: It's a great question. And sometimes, yes, but I made a commitment to myself. And I said to myself that I was going to commit to this way of life. Imperfectly because no one's perfect. But I was going to do everything in my power to come from a place of kindness, I was going to do everything in my power to see another human being because I was never seeing.

GLENN: What happened to you? Because you don't just wake up and say I want to give it all up. So what happened to you?

LEON: So what happened to me on a emotional level I was in deep pain. Many of us are in pain yet we don't face it. And the pain was so great.

GLENN: Do you mind explaining the pain?

LEON: Yeah. Sure. I was just very, very depressed and never felt seen in my home and also at school. I never felt like I was following my purpose, and it was just -- it reached a point where it broke. The dam broke and leaving my job was the only thing I could do because the pain was just too much. That's -- had the pain not been that much, I wouldn't have done it.

GLENN: No.

LEON: I would have still been there.

GLENN: It bothers me that we live in a society now that wants to take away pain and suffering. I don't mean this like we've got to help suffering people. But we don't want anybody to fail. We don't want our kids to fail. We want to swoop in. There's always a drug for something. There's always a bailout for something. Every lesson of real importance that I've ever learned came from the bottom of my soul, you know? A place I didn't want to be. That's where I found out who I was. That's when I actually grew. When I'm just kind of drifting along and everything is okay, and I'm just kind of even numb, there's no growth there. I don't connect with anyone. I don't reach outside of myself.

LEON: Interesting. You're a Winston Churchill fan.

GLENN: Yeah.

LEON: And Winston Churchill has a very famous quote, which I'm sure you know. When you find yourself walking through hell, keep walking. And pain is not pleasant.

GLENN: No.

LEON: But if you find your way through it, there's a lot of light comes your way.

GLENN: Uh-huh. What do you have to tell us about, you know, here in America and Europe too, things are getting bad. Things are -- you know it over in the UK. There's trouble coming our way. And I am convinced the biggest trouble we face is from us -- not from the governments or anybody trying to kill us but from us. We don't have a sense of community anymore. We don't trust each other. We don't trust our institutions. And, you know, Toqueville came from France and studied in the 1800s what made America great was America was good. And we've let institutions and governments do things for us, and we're losing our kindness.

When you saw the streets of all over the world, and then you saw the streets of America, is there a difference in America? Or is it the same? Are we more callous, or are we kinder, or are we like everybody else?

LEON: I think ultimately one of the greatest lessons I learned was that everyone simply wherever you are, what religion you are, it doesn't matter what color you are, simply just wants to be seen. By being seen, I mean being loved, being heard, having a sense of community. And in the western world, we come too much from our heads. We come too much from our iPhones. We come too much from being connected but not really being connected. And I would say just simplify things. I go, and I speak at schools all the time, and I tell them, look, each and every one of you can change the world. And you can simply change the world by being kind to each other. By coming from your heart. It's such a simple thing. And being connected and just dropping down from the madness.

GLENN: Leon Logothetis, he has a new book out and Netflix documentary called the "Kindness Diaries." It is a pleasure to meet you.

LEON: Thank you so much.

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GLENN: Darren, welcome to the program. How are you? Darren, are you there? Is he there?

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: Okay. Check if he's there. Is he? Dick Cheney. Dick Cheney.

STU: Trying to shut him down. They don't want peace. They don't want peace.

GLENN: They don't. They don't.

He is -- he is a big-time anti-globalist. I've got to tell you, what we're doing with the State Department. I absolutely love. The State Department has been a big problem for this country for a very long time. It's what's gotten us into these global wars. These endless wars, and everything he is.

And, I mean, I don't know what happened to Marco rube, but he is tremendous.

And the way president Trump is appointing different people like Darren, it's fantastic. Darren, are you there? Darren.

STU: Something must be wrong with the lines. Because we are talking to him offline on the phone here. And it does seem to be working, but not coming through our broadcast board here for whatever reason.

GLENN: Well, let's see if we can get that fixed, and maybe let me just talk here for five, six minutes on something else. Then we'll take a break and come back and see if we can get him.

There's something else that I really want to talk about. And that is this flag-burning thing. Now, it's not an amendment.

This is something that the president is putting up in an executive order and has very little teeth to it.

But I -- I -- look, I understand. As a guy putting an enormous flagpole up at my house today.

I mean, an enormous flagpole.

I love the flag. I love it!

And there are a few things that make me more angry than see somebody you set our flag on fire.

For a lot of people, that's a punch in the gut, especially our military people. And it has been planted on distant battlefields. It's raced after victory. Saluted in the morning, or should be in our schools and folded and given to the hands of grieving families. It feels like spitting on every sacrifice, that ever made this nation possible. And the argument against flag burning is really simple: It dishonors the idea of all of that. Okay?

And it defends millions of people, including me. It disrespects, I think the veterans that bled. The families who mourned. The dream that binds us together.

However, here's the hard truth: Symbols only mean something, in a land where freedom is alive.

If you outlaw the burning of a flag, the you have placed the cloth above the Constitution that it represents. You have made the flag an idol.

We don't worship idols. If you can only praise the flag and never protest it, it just stops being a symbol of freedom. And starts being an idol of obedience.

Now, that's the argument for allowing it. At least to me.

Because the real strength of a free nation is -- is to -- it's -- it's how we protect, not the speech we love, but how we endure the speech we hate!

And the Supreme Court has already ruled on this. And, you know, they -- the line they drew wasn't an easy one. Freedom of speech, stops where it directly -- directly insights violence. And that's it same thing, kind of, in this executive order.

You can burn the flag. But if I'm not mistaken, but if it incites violence, then you're in trouble.

And that's true. But the bar of inciting violence is so incredibly high. And it's -- it doesn't have anything to do with speech that offends. It's not speech that stirs anger. Not speech that wants you to punch the speaker in the mouth. It's speech only, that provokes imminent and specific violence.

And unless it's that be with the government doesn't have any right to -- to get into the business of silencing speech. Ever. Ever. Ever.

It is a hard line. And that standard is really hard. It's painfully hard.

Because what our citizenship requires, this is civics. What our citizenships require, is that we defend -- oh, I hate this.

We defend the right of your opponent to mock everything that we hold sacred.

Now, I want you to think of this. You can burn a Bible. You can burn the Word of God. But some want to make it illegal to burn a flag. Where are our priorities? You can burn the Constitution. The words that actually are the ones that stir us into action. But you can't burn a flag.

You can't burn a Koran. Can't burn them. Can't. Can't.

You will -- you will quickly come to a quick end, not legally. But you will come to a quick end. I don't ever want to be like that. Ever!

You burn a Bible. I think you're a monster. What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you?

But you have a right to do it. Why are we drawing a line around the flag? It -- the reason is -- is because we feel things so passionately. And that is really a good thing, to feel love of country so passionately. But then we have to temper that. My father used to tell me, that I think this country needs to hear over and over again, every day. My father -- we would talk to somebody. And we would walk away. And he would go, I so disagree with everything that man just said. But, Glenn, son, he would say. I will fight to the death for his right to say it. He used to say that to me all the time. Which now lees me to believe, I know where I've got my strong opinions from. Because dad apparently would disagree with a lot of people all the time.

But that was the essence of freedom. That is the essence of what sets us apart. Standing for universal, eternal rights like free speech. It's not easy. It means you have to take the size of those people that offend you. It means -- it doesn't mean you have to disagree with it. You can fight against it. You can argue back and forth.

But you -- can you tolerate the insults to the things that you love most. That is so hard, and that is why most of the world does not have freedom of speech. It's too hard! But our Founders believed people are better than that. Our citizens can rule themselves!

And the only way you can rule yourself is if you don't have limits on freedom of speech. So the question is, do we want to remain free? Or do we want to just feel good? It really is that simple. It's why no one else has freedom of speech. It's too hard! I think we're up to the task. Okay. Give me 60 seconds. And then we will try again.

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All right. Let me -- let me bring Darren in. Darren, are you there now?

DARREN: Yes!
GLENN: Oh, God. Thank goodness.
Thank you for putting up with us. I don't know what happened with the phone system. But, first of all, tell me what the US Institute of Peace is. I've never even heard of it.

DARREN: That is a fantastic question. And I'll try to give the abbreviated answer, because I know we don't have several hours.

GLENN: Good. I know.

DARREN: But US Institute of Peace is one of lesser known, but quite important member of the NGO archipelago, that was created in the '80s. It belongs to the same cohorts as national endowments for democracy.

GLENN: Oh.

DARREN: And some other -- some other better known NGOs that really in the broad context of things. In kind of the sweep of things, was created as a kind of reorganization of the government structure in the aftermath of the church type committee hearings that expose a lot of the dirty dealings of government agencies such as the CIA, and so sort of a broader response to that government lie was to create this NGO layer of governance, with an armed distant plausible deniability, a kind of chameleon character of not exactly being government, not exactly being private, in order to fulfill some of those more sensitive functions that had been exposed in the course of the church hearings.

And so US Institute of Peace is one of those NGOs that had particular focus on conflict regions. But, of course, as I think you -- you suggested earlier, peace requires at the very least, an asterisk. Because there involves a lot of things, that conventional, most American citizens would not think should belong as part of the portfolio of something calling itself an institute of peace.

GLENN: So what was the thing with the -- with this Taliban member that was getting money from us?

DARREN: Right. So this is an interesting case. So there's a whole saga of a takeover of the US institute of peace under -- under DOGE.

And that's really a fascinating story unto itself. Just to give you a sense of what these characters were like. They barricaded themselves in the offices.

They sabotaged the physical infrastructure of the building. There were reports of there being loaded guns within the offices.

GLENN: Wow!

DARREN: There was one, like, hostage situation where they held a security guard under basically kind of a false imprisonment type situation. It was extremely intense.

Far more so than the better known story of USAID. And in the course of all of that, they tried to delete a terabyte of data, of accounting information that would indicate what kind of stuff they were up to.

What kind of people they were paying. And in the course of that, DOGE found that one of the people on their payroll. Was this curious figure, who had a prominent role in the Taliban government. And then seemed to kind of play a bunch of angles across each other.

Sort of one of these sixer types in the middle of Afghanistan.

The question is, what the heck is an organization like this, having an individual, who is a former Taliban member on their payroll.

It underscores how incredibly bizarre the whole arrangement is. And to just reinforce that. I think even more bizarre than having this former Taliban guy on the payroll is the kind of schizophrenic posture exhibited by the chief -- one truly bizarre thing is that one of the US Institute of Peace's main kind of policy agendas was basically lamenting the fact that the opium trade had dissipated under Taliban leadership. They had multiple reports coming out, basically saying, this is horrible, that the opium trade is diminished under the Taliban. Meaning, finding some way to restore it. How bizarre is that!

GLENN: What was their thinking?

DARREN: Well, it's -- it's very strange, and it depends on what kind of rabbit holes you want to go down. But the whole story of opium and Afghanistan and its connection to, you know, government entities, is a -- is a very intricate and delicate and fascinating one. But it seems very clear that the US Institute of Peace was involved in that story to some degree because their public reports. They had a full-the time guy of basically lamenting the fact that the opium trade dissipated under the Taliban. And, meanwhile, they're funding this former Taliban guy.

GLENN: Unbelievable. Now, ProPublica got this. And you have released the statement on it. And ProPublica just completely white-washed this -- said this guy was a victim, and his family was taken hostage. Was his family ever taken hostage because he was exposed?

And correct the ProPublica story, would you?

DARREN: Yeah, I mean, the ProPublica thing, as usual and as expected was a total joke.

GLENN: Yes.

DARREN: I mean, this guy, I'm not an expert on this particular person's history. But what's very clear is he was a former Taliban guy, and he was probably one of these people, who was playing all sides, made a lot of enemies. I know that there were several kind of attempts on his life by the Taliban, in the course of various -- various decades.

This has nothing to do with -- with DOGE.

I mean, he's a known quantity in the region.

And somebody who has made a lot of enemies.

And he was not -- he was on the payroll of the US institute of peace.

And nobody is expecting something like that. So then, and, again, there's this sort of hostile takeover situation.

Where the people are barricading he themselves in. Trying to delete all this data.

And sure enough, what's in the data, is stuff like this.

These random former Taliban guy, making his contract with $130,000.

GLENN: You know, this is the -- this is the real Deep State stuff, that I think bothers people so much.

Look, we expect our CIA to do stuff, we don't necessarily want to do it. We expect it.

When it's in the State Department.

When every department is pushing out money to NGOs to overthrow governments and everything else.

It's out of control!

It's just completely out of control.

And who is overseeing all of that.

DARREN: That's a great question.

I think part of the NGO -- UCEF was almost a cutout of a cutout.

A fourth of its money came from USAID.

In many ways, it was a cutout of USAID. Which itself was a cutout.

So there are many layers of distance. Plausible deniability.

And UCEF, I think institutionally really perfected this chameleon structure of being able to plausibly present itself as government. When that was convenient for what they were doing.

And also to present itself as a private organization, when that was convenient.

It's a very intricate setup that they had, that was truly optimized for this chameleon character of plausible denial operations. In conflict zones. Doing God knows what, with American taxpayer money.

And it's just an absolute hornet's nest.

We have recovered that terabyte that they tried to delete. And once we get things settled in the building itself, I intend to do a kind of transparency effort, whereby we release all of this material to the public.

GLENN: Good. Good.

DARREN: Just like I'm doing at the State Department. I'm currently acting as secretary at the State Department. And doing a transparency effort here. After I eliminated the global engagement center, which was sort of the internal censorship office within the State Department, decided, we've got to -- we've got to air this out to the public.

So within the next couple of weeks.

We'll have our next tranche of helps you of thousands of emails, documenting what this were doing.

GLENN: I would love you to go back on, through those emails.

I think you guys in the State Department are doing an amazing job. Thanks for being on.

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