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What happens when a reasonable constitutionalist meets a reasonable progressive? A useful conversation ensues.
Eric Liu, CEO of Citizenship University and author of You're More Powerful Than You Think: A Citizen's Guide to Making Change Happen, joined Glenn in studio to discuss the destructive nature of politics and how to push back against a rigged system.
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GLENN: Eric Liu is a new friend. We started to get to know each other maybe two months ago. He came down from his hometown of Seattle, which is also my hometown.
He is a CEO of Citizenship University. He teaches civics at the University of Washington. Just that is enough to say, I don't think we're going to have a lot in common.
(laughter)
GLENN: He is -- he was described by a mutual friend of ours, Matt Kibbe, as a progressive who wants to talk to the other side. And I -- I sat down in my office with Eric, and I said, "This is going to be an interesting conversation." And you -- you pretty much, if I remember correctly, started the conversation with, I'm not an early 20th century American progressive.
Is that -- am I remembering that right? Or did I hear that in my --
ERIC: Well, you asked if I was.
GLENN: Yes. And so your answer was?
ERIC: Yeah.
Well, my answer was, I'm a progressive in the sense simply that I believe you can't just let things be. I think that society, a community, a political system, an economy is like a garden. You know, when you leave things be, for a while, things grow awesome. They're great. Right? They grow like gangbusters.
But after a certain point, noxious weeds take over, and they start to kill the whole thing. After a little while of letting things go, the garden tips over and it dies.
GLENN: Well, there's a difference between that and to use your garden -- let me take it to a farm. Theodore Roosevelt. So I'll take it out of the Republicans. Talked about breeding of humans, in compared to breeding like cattle, because noxious weeds -- people will marry, and they're too stupid to know who to marry and who not to marry. I mean, there is -- there is a place to where the farmer or the rancher takes it too far.
ERIC: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I think, you know, there's a good wide open space between that vision of, hey, we're citizen gardeners. We own responsibility for making sure that we tend, that we weed, that we see the plot between that. And eugenics. You know, that whole world view --
GLENN: Yes. Yeah.
STU: Just a personal thing for us. But would you mind using an analogy that isn't related to vegetables? We're not familiar.
ERIC: You don't get what I'm talking about?
STU: Yeah, we just don't understand.
GLENN: He's a vegetarian and still doesn't understand them. He hates the fact that he's a vegetarian.
You write, why do most people think "power" is a dirty word? Because they think it means coercion and violence. They associate it with the worst in human nature. And if I can summarize, a couple things that you say: There are three laws of power. The first, power concentrates, that it feeds itself and it compounds, as does powerlessness. Second, power justifies itself. People invent stories to legitimatize the power that they have. And third, power is infinite. There is no inherit limit to the amount of power people can create.
Take me through those three points.
ERIC: Yeah. These are pretty fundamental to any understanding, I think, of whether you're on the right or the left, how we live in this incredible age right now of bottom-up citizen power. People all across-the-board are knocking over entrenched monopolies, knocking over entrenched systems of status quo. And so when you look at those three laws, number one, power concentrates. You know, when you have it, you tend to get more.
GLENN: Yeah.
ERIC: When you don't have it, you tend to get less. Right? And that plays out in economic terms, in terms of the rich get richer and so forth. But it's also political.
GLENN: You see it honestly with the conservatives. Progressives have control of much of the media, and the conservatives struggle to have a toehold in that media. And we seem to get less and less.
ERIC: Well, I think that's right. I mean, I think there is a way in which -- okay. So that's number one: Power concentrates.
GLENN: Yes.
ERIC: But what you're touching on is also law number two: Power justifies itself, right? So people who tend to be in power, and from your perspective, that's progressives in the media. In other times in American history --
GLENN: Well, let's take it in your field, I mean, in the university, you can't tell me that you think that progressives don't control the universities and manipulate and justify itself?
ERIC: Well, I think progressives dominate the academy. Progressives dominate the media.
GLENN: Yeah.
ERIC: But domination is one thing. It's justifying itself as telling these just so stories about why that ought to be so. Right?
GLENN: Correct.
ERIC: And so an example I'll use more from the left is the classic case is trickle-down economics. To me, the idea that people who are already wealthy and already privileged telling you, you've got to take good care of us, man. You've got to coddle us and make sure you give us nice tax breaks because that's the only way any of my wealth is going to leak down to the rest of you, right?
Economic theory tells you, there's not actually a whole lot of truth to that. But it's a story. It's a way of justifying people having what they have. Right?
White supremacy has always been that kind of story line. You know, that, hey, look, whites are better and more suited for governing and governing themselves and running the show than non-whites, so this just ought to be the way it is. Right? You non-whites ought not to be kind of crowding into the public square.
So if all you had were these two laws here, that power compounds and it justifies itself, you get into a pretty grim doom loop. Right? You get into a situation -- well, you get into a dictatorial authoritarian situation. The only thing that busts you out of that doom loop is law number three, which is that power is infinite. And that people, wherever they are, even if they're outside of those circles of concentrated power, can generate new countervailing power out of thin air, simply by organizing.
And, you know, I actually on the road have been completely consistent in saying exhibit A is the Tea Party. The Tea Party, 2010, arrived without clout, without connections, without permission, without anybody saying, "Hey, go on and kind of lead a movement here to challenge the entrenched status quo in both parties." But these people remembered that they had infinite power, and that if they simply began to organize with another, which is simply asking one other human to join you in a common endeavor and say, you know what, let's make some plans here. Let's get on a common message. Let's do some things together. They began fundamentally to change the game, right?
And I think this age that we're in right now is one that connects the Tea Party, with Occupy Wall Street. With $15 an hour. With Black Lives Matter.
You may think, wow, all these people. I don't agree with all these people. But the reality is, all of them are remembering that in this bottom-up way, citizens can exercise far more clout and muscle than most of the time we remember we have.
GLENN: So this is -- and I know this audience is -- is feeling it. And I say this in the spirit of just defining where we are. Okay?
As I'm listening to you and I heard about, you know, trickle-down economics, I wanted immediately to stop and battle you on that.
ERIC: Yeah.
GLENN: There's several things that you said that I immediately wanted to say, no.
(chuckling)
STU: That's okay though.
GLENN: It's okay. It's okay. But that's where we get lost. Because we don't listen -- we don't let the other person finish. And so we're not listening to each other.
But let me -- instead of battling on those things, let me take you here on that. I agree with your three points. And I agree with you on the last point. And I -- you know, I -- I'm sorry, I have to say it, but not only power is infinite, with power comes money too. Money is infinite. So we spend so much time telling people, sit down, shut up, to protect your own power. Okay?
And I can't -- you can't do it because that guy is in your way. You can't make money because that guy has it all. Money and power. They're usually put together. And they are infinite. As we see in Silicon Valley. You can dream, you can do. It's the idea of America.
Here's the thing that I want to get to on this -- on this power: There are progressives on both sides of the aisle. There are progressives that are Republicans, progressives that are Democrats. And the -- the original idea was either fascism in the early 20th century. They thought fascism and communism was neat. So the early guys were, who is going to control the cows? Who is going to be the rancher on the cows? Who is going to tell these dummies that don't get it how to live their life? We'll protect them, and we'll have the power.
And so there's fascists, and there's communists, if you will. Both of them end the same way in authoritarianism.
How do we get to a point to where the people who are truly constitutionalists -- this is what makes us different. What the progressives started in the early 20th century is just to bring us back to the European model. Look what's happening in France: Communism or fascism. Forty percent is voting for fascism or communism. That's craziness.
How do we get to the point to where we can say, "I want you to -- I want you to have the power that you want. I want you to have all the success that you want." But I -- I don't want you telling me what success I can have or what I have to believe or what line I have to tow. I don't want control of your life. I want -- I want 330 million experiments happening that will pop up, and I'll go, "My gosh, look at that life. I'd like to pattern my life after that." Instead of somebody trying to cookie-cutter us all. And I think that's what a lot of people on the left are feeling, especially youth. They're seeing that -- that -- that current running through the right, that says, I want a strongman. And they miss the strongman on the left.
So how do reasonable people come together in the middle that are saying, "Eric, I love you and I respect you and I don't have a problem. Don't control my life. I won't control your life."
ERIC: So I want to start with appreciating what you said at the outset, which was, there were three or four moments when I was speaking earlier where you just wanted to hop up and say no. Right?
I think that's huge. I don't want to just kind of skip past that. I think it's really worth naming that. And I'm sure many of your listeners are like, no.
JEFFY: A couple of people in the room.
(laughter)
ERIC: Yeah, I'm sure. So I think that ability to hear that inside yourself, to kind of sit with that and say, "Hold on. Let's let this play out."
GLENN: And not -- and hang on. And not stew on that like, okay. I got to wait until he stops. I got to remember this.
JEFFY: That's hard. That's hard.
GLENN: Because I couldn't remember -- I couldn't remember -- I know there were three or four things that I thought of that I wanted to say no. But it's stop yourself and let it go. And listen to the other side. That's really hard.
ERIC: That verb right there, man. I think politics, especially in DC, is filled with what I call debaters listening. Right?
GLENN: Yes.
ERIC: You're just listening inasmuch as you need to get the quick gist of what the guy is saying. And then your wheels are spinning, how am I going to pound him back? How am I going to destroy what he just said, right?
GLENN: Yes.
STU: Yep.
ERIC: And what I'm talking about is basically citizens listening.
GLENN: Yes.
ERIC: Like humans actually full-body listening. Right? And checking yourself and saying, okay. Before I react -- I know my talking points I'm going to kind of wheel out here. Right? And the same thing just happened for me.
GLENN: I could see it.
ERIC: You were describing this vision of what you're articulating. You know, you're describing progressivism as top-down, cookie-cutter, controlling either fascist or communist, you know, the state solves everything or tries to solve everything for people.
GLENN: And the reason why you're here is because I don't believe you believe that.
ERIC: I don't believe that, right?
GLENN: Right.
ERIC: And I don't accept that definition in the first place.
GLENN: But do you believe there are those that do that?
ERIC: I do. And I think we're here because precisely as you say, because there is a space between that caricature and the caricature that I could throw out, you know, that all Libertarians are just complete individualistic kind of, you know, sociopathic selfish people that just want to go their own -- that would be equally wrong and stupid, right?
GLENN: Correct. Correct. We've made the media and sound bites. And we are reflecting it in our own conversation. If we can't judge each other in one sound bite, then we don't engage.
ERIC: Yeah.
GLENN: We get lost. And those sound bites make us into cartoon characters.
ERIC: Yeah.
GLENN: And we're not those cartoon characters.
Humanity is racing toward a future where artificial intelligence, brain implants, genetic engineering, and robotics merge into a new post-human species. Glenn Beck and Timothy Alberino warn this “upgrade” may cost us the one thing we can’t replace: our humanity. With AI soon operating inside the brain and artificial wombs being used for reproduction, the world is entering a hybrid age that threatens to erase what it even means to be human. This is not a tech revolution, it’s a civilizational crossroads.
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The fight over releasing the Epstein records has exploded into one of the biggest transparency battles in Washington. Republicans say Democrats deliberately blocked the vote to fast-track disclosure, raising questions about what the party is trying to hide — and why the timing matters so much. Glenn Beck breaks down why both sides are terrified of what might be revealed, how Trump’s call to “release everything” changed the political calculus, and why the banking records may hold the real truth behind Epstein’s power.
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: Johnson. Can we bring this up, Sara?
Johnson is live. And he's talking about transparency.
VOICE: Concerned as we were about all this. As we've insisted from the very beginning. Republicans are the only party trying to ensure maximum transparency. By the way, I will just tell you, I put the bill on the floor of unanimous consent last Wednesday night. And guess who objected to it? The Democrats.
Okay?
If they were so -- if this was so urgent. And they were so concerned about getting this done, and seeing justice be done and all of that, they would have not blocked the request. Okay?
This is about politics. They -- they blocked our unanimous consent motion to expedite our bill and made us waste all of this additional time.
Republicans are ready to get the job done, to move forward so we can continue to get on these important issues dealing with what the American people demand and deserve for us to deal with.
And so I want to leave you with this thought: Everybody should think long and hard about who is acting truthfully, honestly, and in good faith. It is not in the Democrat Party that has obfuscated and blatantly lied the last four years about all these things. It's not the Democrats who shut down the government and for their own selfish political purposes. It's not the Democrats who blocked the passage of this discharge a week ago because they wanted to have a political moment.
It is the Republicans who are acting in good faith. And I believe the American people are going to see that. And understand that.
I'm going to vote to move this forward.
I think it could be close to a unanimous vote because everybody here, all the Republicans want to go on record to show they're for maximum transparency. But they also want to know, that we're demanding that this stuff get corrected before it's ever -- moves through the process. And is completed.
GLENN: I think that's fascinating.
JUSTIN: I sincerely hope my Democrat colleagues will show the same level of urgency and enthusiasm when it comes to tackling the real issues facing the country that we have to get to.
GLENN: Okay. Top.
Stu, how -- how do the Democrats vote against this?
STU: As far as the -- the bill to expose the Epstein files?
I mean, I don't think they will in the end.
I don't think they will.
GLENN: You think it will be unanimous?
STU: I don't think it will be unanimous.
But I do think that it will pass when -- when it goes through. I -- I do think, it will get a lot of votes too. Because now people are cushioned. Right?
It's easy. No problems, really. Now that Trump has said, release it. There's really nobody opposing it outside of -- they probably want to make sure that they get everybody on record. So they're opposing the unanimous consent vote.
That's my guess, of their strategy there.
But, you know, what a surprise!
JASON: Personally, I think the Democrats walked into a huge trap on this, personally.
I think it's too politically dangerous for them to vote against it.
Although, I do feel like there will be more pushback, than some people could expect on this.
I think a lot of people will flip and vote against it. To me, it's desperation. What they did, last week. Or the past couple of weeks.
Come on! Redacting certain names within these emails. Just blowing past certain journalists that are considered on their side. That were allegedly coaching Epstein.
I mean, being willing to put that out there, is massive desperation.
I think President Trump set a trap for them on this.
I think it was sprung when he flipped. And said, no. We're releasing it. It just feels all too perfect for me.
I think the Democrats are terrified of some of the things that could be coming out of this.
Not to say, that it would be, like, very, very damning. But very, very embarrassing for a lot of them. That's what I'm expecting.
And I'm fully thinking there will be a floodgate of a lot of this stuff. They made a huge miscalculation, in my opinion, on doing that act of desperation.
STU: Why wouldn't Trump then want to -- why wouldn't he want to release these previously?
I mean, seeming, it does seem like when Donald Trump has an opportunity to make Democrats look bad, he's pretty -- he'll take it. He -- he likes that. Why wouldn't he have been in favor of this from the beginning if they actually had stuff on the Democrats?
GLENN: I don't think anything bad on the Democrats is actually there. I mean, really bad.
STU: Yeah.
GLENN: I think there's some embarrassing stuff from both sides.
But, you know, mainly for the Democrats. But there's not going to be a smoking gun on Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton or any of the big ones.
This is the way it always happens. The real kingpins always get away. It's just the underlings. And it will be the underlings that aren't real popular. That's what will happen. That are spendable. That maybe they want to get rid of in small districts.
The Democrats want to get rid of. Because the tells me could have cleaned all of this up, during Biden.
Whatever they wanted to do. They could have gotten rid of it.
STU: Glenn, can we talk for a second of how Trump is talking about this?
Because, obviously, we've talked about it as a big priority before the campaign. And now he's president of the United States.
And now he's used the term Epstein hoax. And all of that, several times.
I noticed in the clip we played earlier. That he started to clean that up, a little bit. And he said, the Epstein hoax.
It's a hoax, as it applies to Republicans.
And he started to kind of change his language on that a little bit. Which I find to be interesting.
I think smart. Because the American people don't think this is a nothing story.
They don't think this is a hoax. They don't think that the idea that that Epstein did these terrible things. Is something that is a nothing story to us right now.
But I think the way Trump thinks about it, is he's trying to deal with what's going on right now. And it's like, if we were -- if we unearthed a bunch of text messages from Jeffrey Dahmer to Nancy Pelosi. That would be a big story.
It would be important to find out why Jeffrey Dahmer and Nancy Pelosi were trading text messages. But that being said, it wouldn't be the number one issue of the president of the United States. Because it -- you know, Jeffrey Dahmer is long dead. Right?
Whatever was going on back then. We should know about it, but it's not necessarily as important right now as bringing down prices and making sure our economy doesn't spin out of control.
Or, you know, the Middle East. Or whatever else Trump is dealing with.
So I think Trump sees it. He keeps using hoax. I think to him, he really sees it as a distraction to the things he's actually trying to get accomplished. When at the end of the day, it's an important story.
About the, you know, they're lying about it constantly in the media. And it's just become a distraction from what he really wants to get accomplished. You buy that?
GLENN: I mean, look at what we accomplished over the last week.
Ever since the -- ever since the -- the -- the Democrats voted to open the government again. The very next day, it was Epstein, and we're still talking about Epstein.
And that's why he's changed. That's why he's changed. He knows, that this is just not going to go away. And I think he alluded to it in his statement yesterday, it's still not going to go away. It's never going to be enough. It's never going to be enough.
But let's just release everything. And show you what it is. And, you know, if there is anything there, about the Democrats.
I don't think it will be about Bill Clinton. I think it will be about smaller Democrats.
And Democrats that are passed their prime or out. You know, I just don't think they're going to be -- they're going to be anything that's big in it.
Maybe. But I don't think so. I think where you will find big things. Was yesterday. Or the day before. Was he was going to look into the banking records. He wants to see all of Epstein's transactions. And who was sending money where, et cetera, et cetera.
That's where you're going to start seeing some names. If they go into the banking records.
I mean, look what happened -- what was the bank? Was it J.P. Morning Chase, that was Epstein's bank?
I can't remember. I hate to say that. Because it may not be. Will you look that up real quick?
You know, they went into the banking records, and then, you know, there were lawsuits about that. And then all of a sudden, just kind of went away. I don't even what happened with that. Hmm. What?
You're banking. Huh?
JASON: JPMorgan and Deutsche.
GLENN: Yeah. And I think that's where you're going to find stuff. That's where the bodies will be find. Because the banking records will be the banking records, and you won't get rid of those.
CNN contributor Scott Jennings joins Glenn Beck to reveal what’s really happening inside America’s political institutions. Jennings explains why Trump still commands an unbreakable base, how AI and China may define the next Cold War, and why Democrats are pushing the country deeper into ideological chaos.
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: Scott Jennings. Welcome to the program!
How are you?
SCOTT: Sir, I'm great. It's an honor to be with you. I've been a long time fan and an admirer of yours. To be with you today, it's very special for me.
So thanks for the invitation.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
Well, you are more than welcome.
I have to tell you, I was just about to say, I don't know what your life is like. But I know exactly what your life is like.
Because I worked there. And it was a lonely, lonely place, but you are doing an amazing job. Really, an amazing job!
SCOTT: Well, thank you for saying that. And I have to say, you know, I credit CNN for creating this 10 o'clock debating show, where I most often appear.
And giving conservatives a chance to fight it out. And I think PB is kind of boring, when it's just six people sitting around, congratulating themselves on increasing levels of smugness. I think a little debate and a little common sense injected into some of the conversations and a little reframing of some of these debates is exactly what they need. And I think there's a hunger for that kind of content out there.
I'm glad they're doing it, and it's a privilege to see right now.
GLENN: So are there days, you walk away going, I just can't do it? I mean, there has to be.
SCOTT: Well, I usually have to meet people who say crazy things. I was on not too long ago with a guy, who was a real-life ear truther. He did not believe that Donald Trump had been shot in Butler, Pennsylvania. And he said to me live on the air, "Well, I wasn't there, how am I supposed to know?"
And I thought, "This is who I'm dealing with." And I debate people who if not but for me, contractually obligated to do so, wouldn't know or interact with a single other Republican. I'm the only one they know!
GLENN: I know.
SCOTT: I think if you're interested in popping ideological bubbles like I am and like I know you are, it's a good thing to do. It does make me shake my head. I do think there's value. I mean, I believe in our ideas.
And I think if our ideas get out to more people, more people will gravitate to our cause.
GLENN: I agree. All right.
So let's talk a little bit about the book, Revolution of Common Sense.
You say that your dad was the first one that said, "Donald Trump is going to win."
And this is early on! You laughed it off.
Said that he's not going to win. Is that true?
SCOTT: I did. That's absolutely true. My father was the biggest Clinton Democrat I knew. I come from a family of Democrats. He was a factory worker and a garbage man. And even though, I was a Republican political operative. My father was a Democrat for a long time. In 2015, my dad was telling me, "It's going to be Trump." I, like everybody else, who had been trained in the old ways, was like, you know, come on, Dad. And he turned out to be right. But he was sort of the leading indicator for me about what was going to happen in Middle America.
All these working-class Americans, who live in hollowed out communities. That feel like the political elites that have left them behind.
That was my dad. And he was speaking to my dad. As you know, he was speaking to millions of people. And he defeated the Republican establishment. Then he defeated the democratic establishment.
And it was because of people like my dad who recognized in him, we're trying to hire somebody to smash these guys who had forgotten about us and be crushed us.
And my Dad knew it. It's not the only time in my life, where my Dad was right, and I was wrong. I can tell you that.
GLENN: Yeah. You spent a lot of time with Donald Trump when you were writing this book. Did you know him beforehand?
SCOTT: I did not. I met him, really for the first time in February when I pitched him on the book, and got to observe him in action in the Oval Office.
I flew with him. You know, it's funny. He kind of dominated, you know, every conversation I've had in my professional life for the last 10 years.
But I didn't really know him. But I did spend some time with him in the White House.
I flew to Michigan with him on his 100th day in office. He gave a speech in Michigan, that day. And he said something true to his inaugural address.
He said, whether you're on the left or whether you're on the right. Whether you're in the middle. It's just common sense.
And I think the rebranding of the party as the common sense party has allowed so many more people in.
I think it's one of the most genius, political marketing moves in American history.
GLENN: Yeah. It's amazing. Because he's not -- he's want saying -- he's not necessarily making a case for being conservative or anything else.
It's just, he is fighting for the things that we all used to think, well, yeah. That makes sense.
No. That's a dude. He can't shower with my daughter.
You know, it's that kind of stuff, that should be really uniting.
Why is he -- why do they hate him so much?
SCOTT: Because I think they believe, the left believes, that they had control of all the institutions. Universities. Media. They were either taking control of corporate America.
When you look around at all the institutional strength in our country, the left has been on a long project to co-opt, infiltrate, and paint these things over.
And Donald Trump, and, of course, while doing that. They make you believe things.
You have to accept that you can wake up and change your gender one day. You have to accept, you know, the DEI nonsense.
You have to accept our radical ideology. Or we'll ostracize you from this institution. Or we'll crush you.
Trump shows up, and says, I just won't put up with it. And there were millions of Americans who were dying for someone to try to restore sanity to these I think these conversations, that you rightly say, just used to be common sense.
He said what everyone else was thinking.
But everybody had been made basically too afraid to say. Because of punishment.
Cultural punishment.
Trump was their champion. And he still is today. And that's why he has a base that's never going to leave him.
Because he knows, they know, that he's never going to ever back down to this mob, that is going to try to turn everything upside down, and tell you right is wrong. Left is right, and red is blue. And up is down.
That's what they want. And he will not allow it. And whoever we nominate, next, will not allow it either. Because they will come right back.
GLENN: What do you think his strongest ability is, and the one that maybe is something you're seeing coming on the horizon.
Like, he's got to be paying attention to this. Got to fix this!
SCOTT: Well, I think this artificial intelligence conversation, he has a really strong handle on.
I think he knows, we cannot allow the Chinese to control this conversation.
I think he knows what we have to do on the energy front, to win this conversation.
I think his vision on that.
When we think about legacy. This may be the most consequently policy making he see.
I also think that --
GLENN: I told him, I thought he would be remembered as the AI president.
And he said, nah. I'm not going to be that's not my thing.
GLENN: I asked him a couple -- maybe a month ago. You know, to a consider the AI race to be your space race?
Is this that big?
Is it your Cold War?
And he said, it's all that wrapped up and more!
GLENN: Wow. Good for him.
SCOTT: He's increasingly understanding that the decisions he makes today. The course we set today.
Will determine. So in ten years, 15 years, when we control this. It's the free world, that's on top of the AI situation. And not the communist Chinese, it will be because of Donald Trump. And so I think he's setting all that in motion today. I also think what he's doing in the Middle East, and standing up to the barbarians. I mean, it's amazing to me, the propaganda campaign that went on after October the 7th. And how the west. Western governments and western media sided with the barbarians. If you go there and listen to what happened. And it's been total propaganda. But Trump had total moral clarity on this. He's standing up to the people who would leave this world in darkness, ideologies that are the enemy of human liberty, and he knows it. And he's been totally clear on this.
And so I think too, occasionally someone has to stand up and say, no. Enough is enough.
And he did that. And he it did strategically at the right time. I think it will pay dividends for years to come.
GLENN: Spending the time with him, what did you feel was something that maybe surprised you and something that you think, gosh, if America just understood this one thing, it might change things.
SCOTT: Well, the caricature of him, would lead you to believe that he's not a good listener, or that he's not someone that absorbs a lot of information that informs his opinion. I came away with totally opposite review.
I watched him, listened to people having debates. He asked questions. He kind of lobs in his views.
But he really does absorb I think these debates among his excellent cabinet. And the excellent staff that he has. And then he makes the decision.
What's great about this president. Versus the last one. He's decisive. Once he listens and takes in everything, he makes a decision, and that's what they do. Biden was famously indecisive, which leads to weakness. Which of course leads to the disaster of that administration. But Trump doesn't suffer from that.
That's myth number one. Myth number two.
This man is genuinely funny. He is warm. He is hospitable. You know, talking about my Dad. When we were together once, he had his hat on. His famous red hat. And he said, you want my hat?
And I said, no. But I know someone who does. It was the first man to ever tell me you were going to be president. And he said, "Sounds like a smart guy."
GLENN: Wow. Wow. That's cool.
SCOTT: He took the hat right off his head. So he's actually a warm, nice, funny person. And of course, the caricature of him painted by the media is that he wouldn't believe it. Hey, I lived through this, when I worked for President Bush. They caricatured him. And as adults as well.
Totally not true. They caricatured Dick Cheney. The caricatured Mitt Romney. They take our Republicans, and they turn them into something they're not.
And, of course, that's -- that's the power of the left, when they control cultural institutions.
So I think they've done it to Trump to some degree. Of course, his personality tends to cut through the clutter sometimes.
GLENN: You would be surprised. Next time you see him, it could be a year from now. And he's going to ask you how your Dad was. You watch.
SCOTT: I know. I watched him interact with people in that way. It is an innate political talent. And the good ones have it.
And he has it. He does care about people. I watched him do it. And he's loyal to people too.
GLENN: He does.
What do you think the -- the -- the thing that is happening now, that should be paid attention to, that maybe the media is missing.
What's thing that is most overblown and most underplayed?
SCOTT: Oh, gosh, well, I think the thing we ought to be paying attention to on the left is the energy and radicalism on the left.
You know, the elections the other day.
I said on CNN the other night. I thought this was the beginning of the ending of Chuck Schumer.
It's really the beginning of the end of any semblance of any shred of the possibility of returning to sanity in the democratic party. I mean, look at how they treat John Fetterman for simply occasionally saying something that is basic common sense. Or having a back bone. The energy in the socialist -- radical socialist movement on the left is real! Happened in New York. It happened in Seattle. They elected a mayor out there. Who lives in her parents' basement. That got elected on the power of the socialist agenda. AOC is the leader of this faction. Bernie Sanders is the intellectual godfather of it. And these people will change America. They think the American experiment was rotten at its core. They think it ought to be ripped out root and branch and replaced with something that neither you nor I would recognize as American. They fundamentally hate the system that we have lived with for 250 years in this country.
And I don't think we can understate how much energy they have on the left right now. How much momentum they're feeling.
And so I know we talk about it. And, you know, we've talked about the rise of socialism before. The urgency right now, as we head away from the Trump era. And we get into an open presidential election in '28. We cannot allow our country to be taken over.
So that's -- that's number one. Number two, it's being overblown.
I think the Democrats trying to pin the affordability tail on Donald Trump is the most laughable thing I've ever heard.
They took prices to the moon. Gas was $5. Grocery prices. Health care, craziness. They took prices to the moon. And they want to pin this on Donald Trump. And pin this on Republicans.
Give me a break. And so the media buying into this is totally overblown. But we have to fight back hard, or we will have a rough ride in '26.
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