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Charlie's Last Stand: Terri Schiavo's Brother Calls From London With an Update on Charlie Gard

Should the government be able to choose when a child dies? The parents of Charlie Gard are fighting tooth and nail for their parental in Britain’s High Court to determine just that.

Bobby Schindler, brother of Terri Schiavo and founder of LifeAndHope.com, joined Glenn on radio Thursday to talk about the tragic Charlie Gard story.

Charlie is an 11-month-old baby in London with a rare genetic condition that doctors say is terminal. His parents want to take him to the U.S. for experimental medical care and have raised the money to do it, but the European Court of Human Rights has ordered the hospital to remove his life support so he can die “with dignity.”

Schindler understands all too well a court ordering your loved one to death. Terri Schiavo went into a coma in 1990, living in a mostly unresponsive state for 15 years. When her family fought to keep her alive, her case became a flashpoint for the “right to die” debate concerning patients on life support. Michael Schiavo, Terri’s husband, won the case and had her feeding tube removed in March 2005. She died 13 days later.

Visiting Charlie’s parents in London, Schindler noticed the toll the ordeal had taken on the couple.

“This is just day-to-day torture for them, not knowing,” Schindler said.

Schindler theorized that the U.K. hospital can’t take the risk of releasing the child to the U.S. for experimental treatment and their diagnosis being proven wrong. Charlie’s parents raised more than $1 million to take him to the U.S. for treatment, and President Donald Trump has offered U.S. assistance. The Vatican children’s hospital in Rome has also offered to provide care.

During today's court hearing, Charlie's parents stormed out of court after reacting to comments made by the judge. They returned about an hour later.

GLENN: The parents of a baby that has been born with a rare disease returned to court today in London, hoping for a fresh analysis of their wish to take their critically ill child to the United States for treatment. The United States has doctors that will treat. They have money to treat. The Vatican and the pope have said, "We'll give the parents and the baby a passport for the Vatican so we can take the child out and transfer him even to the -- the Vatican hospital in Rome." For some reason, the government health care system -- and I hate to break it to you, but this is what we spoke of when we talked about death panels. The court system, along with the doctors, have decided there's no chance for this baby to live. And even if they have the money, they are not allowed to take the child out of the hospital and get any treatment anyplace else. I have to tell you, if that were my child -- I said yesterday that I would relinquish my citizenship in that country, and I would never return home again.

I said that to Jason, a friend of ours, yesterday. He said, "Are you kidding me? I'm sorry. But I would grab a gun, and I would free my child from the hospital." You wouldn't get away with that, and that would be a very bad idea. But wouldn't you feel that way?

We have Bobby Schindler on. He is Terri Schiavo's brother. He founded the Terri Schiavo Life and Hope Network. If you believe in life and you know what's going on, you're paying attention at all, get involved at lifeandhope.com. Lifeandhope.com.

Bobby, welcome to the program.

BOBBY: Hey, Glenn, thanks for having me. It's good to talk to you.

GLENN: You are in London right now?

BOBBY: Actually, I was over there for four days. I had to get back -- I got back on Tuesday. Back in the states. But I was over there, and I visited with the parents for a few days. And I also had the opportunity to visit with that Charlie.

GLENN: So, Bobby, what is happening with Charlie? How are the parents, first of all?

BOBBY: Well, as you can imagine, Glenn, this is just day-to-day torture for them, not knowing if today or tomorrow is going to be the day where the hospital removes his ventilator. So you can tell it's taking its toll. But they're a strong -- they're a strong couple. They're very humble. They're fighting for the life of their child. And I think why they're getting so much support is because parents can relate to what they're going through, as you just alluded to when you were talking about the case.

GLENN: Bobby, what do they do for a living? What kind of people are there? Are they upper class, middle class, lower class? Who are they?

BOBBY: Yeah, I'm not sure. Just blue-collar. I think Connie was just a stay-at-home mom. I'm not exactly sure what the father was doing. But he hasn't worked in several weeks now, just really being attentive to the struggle that they're going through. And I certainly could sympathize and empathize, just this turmoil and just as I said, this torture they're experiencing right now.

GLENN: Bobby, I remember when we were in Tampa together. And at first, I was on the other side of your sister's argument. And then I actually did my homework and woke up and met you guys. And I'll never forget the look on -- in your mother's eyes and your father's eyes. And even you, for a long time even after, you just -- you look tired. Your whole family. Your sister, everybody, just tired.

And I remember in Tampa how the sides had been drawn. And the people who were chanting for your sister to die was -- it was surreal. It was -- it was almost, quite honestly, like what's happening now between, you know, political rivals, where just -- the hatred on one side was so strong. Is that happening with his parents?

How are the people in London and England responding to this?

BOBBY: Well, first, I got to say, Glenn, that this type of thing that Charlie's parents are going through is happening here in the states. We've been doing this for 12 years after Terry died. And we're seeing this, this erosion of our medical rights, parental rights. It's taking place more and more across countless health care facilities in our country.

But what I -- there's a disconnect, Glenn. I was in a hearing on Monday, and I was watching these attorneys for the hospital argue their case. And --

GLENN: What is their case?

BOBBY: Completely unsympathetic, Glenn. It was just coldheartedness. And it was the same type of position that I saw taken with the people that were representing Michael, trying to end my sister's life. They're just -- I don't know how to explain it, other than there's a disconnect I think to really the value of life or the dignity of life or the preciousness of this little child and the treatment that's available for him.

GLENN: Okay. So here -- in your sister's case -- and I don't mean to be callous, but we've had these kinds of conversations before. And you've heard them a million times.

In your sister's case, people could see themselves as your sister and say, "I wouldn't want to live that way." And that's -- that was the thing that motivated so many people, is I wouldn't want to live that way.

And even though the family -- your family offered to take her into the home to care for her, to cover all the costs. You wanted nothing, but your sister to have a chance to have therapy and to live.

People picked sides because they were afraid of -- of having to linger themselves, I really believe.

Here, the family has great doctors overseas. They have the money. They have everything.

What is the -- and usually, people don't say -- look at a child and say, oh, we got to kill him.

What is the -- what's the emotional attachment that the hospital is using to sell this killing?

BOBBY: Well, perhaps I'm oversimplifying it, Glenn. And this is just my opinion. But if you look at -- they diagnosed this boy in the beginning as having no chance, and no treatment was going to help him. Now doctors come along. And I think there's more than one doctor that's come along and said, there is treatment available that will help him. That will help this little boy.

Now, that put the hospital in a terrible and a very dangerous situation. Because if they release him and they allow this treatment to -- they provide or allow the parents to provide this treatment and Charlie improves, well, now they have to sit back and defend themselves why they made this poor diagnosis in the first place. So I think they're scared to death of him possibly getting help or improving from treatment that's available after they basically said this poor boy is suffering. Nothing is ever going to help him.

GLENN: That's a pretty -- I mean, Mike (sic), let me just play devil's advocate. Talking to Bobby Schindler, Terry Schiavo's bother, who is the founder of lifeandhope.com and deals with these issues.

That's a pretty horrible way to look at doctors. I mean, are doctors really at that place with children?

BOBBY: Well, that's my interpretation. But it makes sense to me. And also, think about it this way, Glenn. If they are wrong and Charlie does improve from treatment out there, think about all the other families now that are being cared for in that hospital. They're going to start questioning. Perhaps they don't agree with the diagnosis that they're getting for their child because it is a children's hospital. So they now might have to face more and more parents questioning diagnoses that are coming from the doctor to the hospital. So I think there's a lot at stake here. And I think it's in the hospital's best interest, not to see Charlie get better. And that's the only way I can explain why they're fighting so hard to kill this kid, when there's treatment -- Glenn, when I was fighting for my sister and we were on the media, I got to tell you, most of the media was taking Michael's side and asking those questions you were just raising. When I was doing media interviews over in London this week -- and I did quite a few of them -- I was -- they were on our side. I mean, not my side. They were on the parents' side and Charlie's side. Nobody could understand why the hospital -- well, they were all defending Charlie. So the interviews were pretty easy because the media wasn't asking me any of the tough questions, like they were for my sister. And they were in agreement for wanting to get Charlie the help that's out for them.

GLENN: Wow. Wow.

Bobby, you said a minute ago that this is happening in the United States. Can you -- how often? Why aren't we hearing about it?

Can you give us some examples of this happening?

BOBBY: Well, it's obvious, Glenn. You could probably guess why we're seeing this happen. Hospitals now -- and, again, I'm oversimplifying it. And I'm not trying to paint a broad brush. But I think hospitals now are acting in their best interests, rather than patients. And I think we're seeing values imposed by ethics committees and hospitals. And I think it's -- look, it's a lot cheaper, Glenn, to end -- if they look at somebody that comes in with a significant brain injury, for example, and they look at this person and they say to themselves, "Boy, he's going to need months of care. And it's going to be expensive. And we don't even know if he's going to improve or how much he's going to improve, at least from the onset." And if they're in a position where they can stop treatment, which they are today -- I mean, if you're looking at it from a purely financial point of view, the hospital's best interest is to say, "Okay. Listen, this person's life is going to cost a lot of money. He's not going to get much better anyway." So then they go in and tell the parents. They give them this poor diagnosis. And they say, "Look, you don't want to end up like a Terry Schiavo, so to speak. You know, why don't you do what's best for this person. Put him out of his suffering and end his life." And they have the legal means now to do this. And I could go into the reasons.

GLENN: Have you run into people who have had your sister used by doctors like that?

BOBBY: Yes. There was an article actually.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

BOBBY: And people tell me this all the time. I shouldn't say all the time. But I do hear it occasionally.

GLENN: Yeah.

BOBBY: Where they do bring up my sister. And there was actually an article -- I read it one time -- where the family said that the doctors told them that your son or your daughter, whoever it was at the time, is going to end up like a Terri Schiavo. And it's in your best interest to end or terminate that person's life. It's terrible. Terrible.

GLENN: How does that make you and your sister feel?

BOBBY: Well, I just think it shows you just the biases and the way we've been desensitized to just the value of human life. When we look at someone with a brain injury, and we want to just decide to end their life instead of care for them. It's just systemic to the problem we have in our culture today.

GLENN: Is this a cultural thing or is this a socialized medicine thing?

BOBBY: Well, I think it's a combination, Glenn. I think there's a lot of dynamics occurring today.

And, again, you know, you look at the food and water issue and how it's been reclassified, where food and water now is medical treatment rather than basic care.

GLENN: Right.

BOBBY: And all these changes that have been made in our health care system today that put more and more people at risk. And we're not even aware. I mean, people walk into a hospital situation, and they don't even understand that hospitals now and physicians make treatment -- you know, treatment decisions, rather than families. And depending on the situation. And I don't know if you saw recently what they tried to pass in Oregon, where they tried to pass -- and this was just the past couple of months, where they tried to make spoon feeding for those that weren't able to feed themselves with a spoon, as a form of medical treatment. And, therefore --

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

BOBBY: Yeah. I mean, this is where we're heading. This constant push to impose values, you know, on people rather than family members, on what's their best treatment options? And make it easier and easier to end people's lives because of cost. And it was the lobby -- lobby industry that was pushing this in Oregon to try and get this legislation passed.

GLENN: Bobby -- you go to lifeandhope.com.

What can people do to help? What are you doing, and how can people get involved?

BOBBY: Yeah, I think the way people need to help themselves is become patient advocates. Understand your rights. If you are -- and appoint someone who is a strong -- we need heroic advocates, Glenn, that are going to stand in and defend you if you're in a situation where you need certain treatment and the hospital is pushing back. You need to know your rights and how to defend loved ones if something like this happens to you. Because I'm telling you -- and, again, there's some -- please don't get me wrong on this. There's some wonderful facilities out there, and we deal with great doctors all the time, and nurses. But there is this shift where we are now making quality-of-life judgments. Or, I should say the health care system is making quality-of-life judgments whether someone should live or die, based on their quality of life. And we need to understand that this is happening. And we need to know how to defend ourselves if it does.

GLENN: If you would like to get involved in Stand for Life because it may be you that can't lift the spoon and they deem that as medical treatment. Go to lifeandhope.com. That's lifeandhope.com. Bobby, best of luck. It's always good to talk to you. Thank you so much. God bless.

BOBBY: Thanks, Glenn. God bless you.

GLENN: You bet. This guy is one of the most remarkable people I've met. Really, truly. And I just don't know how to help because so many people just don't want to hear about this stuff. And he is on the front lines every day. And he has not stopped. His life changed --

JEFFY: It has been now forever.

GLENN: It's been forever. His whole life now has been dedicated because his sister was under attack. And this whole family has just -- what they have endured and what they have done because of it is remarkable. You want to stand with some really good people who are fighting, go to lifeandhope.com.

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EXPOSED: Why Democrats are DESPERATE to impeach Trump over Iran!

Some Democrats are now calling for President Trump’s impeachment because he bombed Iran without congressional approval. But were Trump’s actions legal? Former State Department Special Advisor for Iran, Gabriel Noronha, joins Glenn Beck to explain the truth about the strike. Plus, he details what Iran might have had concerning nuclear weapons.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Gabriel, welcome to the program, Polaris National Security President, former State Department special adviser for Iran.

Did the -- did the president need to have congressional permission before striking Iran over the weekend?

GABRIEL: No. He remembers.

It would have been nice to have the strength of the president's hand, when he does have a congressional authorization for the military force. But the Constitution grants him the powers as commander-in-chief, to take all necessary actions, especially in a limited fashion like he just did.

There are no forces being entered into. There's a conflict. There's no boots on the ground.

This isn't us invading Iraq and toppling the government. This is a limited taking out their nuclear program.

And so he's under full legal authorization. The Constitution grants him to do this.

GLENN: And they -- they have never said anything about ISIS when he went after ISIS and shoved them down. Right?

I mean, we didn't hear this argument.

Why, all of a sudden, is this one so different than all of the limited strikes we have seen from all of the presidents recently?


GABRIEL: You know, you go back to Libya, 2011.

You go back to ISIS, 2014, 2015. Same scenario.

They -- actually, in those cases, those were even more intense military conflicts that we were involved in. And Democrats didn't say anything.
Republicans -- a few Republicans said a few things. But the reason here, is because they want to find something to attack president Trump for it. But there's nothing on the policy. Because this went so well. So they're going after the legal crush, just because they don't have anything else.

Here's another thing. I was in Congress for four years. There were votes by tells me, where they said, we want to strip the president of the ability to attack Iran.

And they introduced amendment after amendment after amendment. And they all failed. Not a single one passed. I saw probably a dozen of these attacks over my years there. All failed.

Either in the markup process on the House floor, the Senate floor, Congress. So Congress had the opportunity to stop this if they wanted, and they have always said, no.

We want the president to have the ability to strike Iran, when it's necessary.

GLENN: And, you know, I have to tell you, the world has changed. It's not like I have to send a ship to go sailing across the ocean anymore. Within 36 hours, we can leave, you know, our base here in America.

Be over in Iran. Drop bombs. And be back at home. You know, in time for dinner the next day.
I mean, it is -- it is very, very different.

And I think it's only logical to say, the president should have a limited ability to -- not declare war. But to respond, or to do a limited strike, if it is in the national interests.

And then, if it -- if it turns into something else. You know, Congress can reprimand him if they want.

Or isn't there something in the Constitution, that says, 30 days, or 60 days, they can shut off all the money.

If he hasn't declared war or gone to Congress, they can just say, we're shutting off all he money. So that's not accurate in this particular case.

Because you would have to have ongoing things. But a president just can't start a war. Congress can't. Correct?

GABRIEL: You're right. So back to 1973, at the height of the Vietnam War, Congress had been concerned that a lot of that had been unauthorized. So they passed what was called a War Powers Resolution. That gave two things.

First, it said, within 48 hours of military enforcement entering a conflict, the president needs to come to Congress and basically tell them, look, legal authorization was used.

And so I expect Trump will do that today.

There will be a legal report filed.

The next thing is that, Congress said, they have 60 days, to pass an authorization for force.

Or if it doesn't happen, then the president has to withdraw the forces.

But here's the thing, the Supreme Court has never ruled that resolution constitutional. And every single president since 1973. Democrat and Republicans.

Have all asserted that is an unconstitutional resolution that was passed in the lay.

So Congress has the option. If Congress wants, they have the power of the purse.

At my point, they can defund any war. They can defund the Pentagon, if they wanted to.

And they can force the President to bring (inaudible), and Congress has never done so. Because Congress basically has passed the buck to the President.

GLENN: Right.

The -- the idea that the president has to go to the gang of eight. And alert them, before anything happens.

Does that mean before the decision is made, or right after the decision is made?

I mean, I know he went to, you know, the leaders of Congress. Just minutes before the bombing started.

And, quite honestly, if I were the president, I would have done exactly the same thing.

I can't trust members of Congress. Look at what they're doing.

These members of Congress, they're so radicalized. They're marching in the streets. To the people burning our cities down.

I don't know what I would have done. Other than exactly what Donald Trump did.

Did he violate any laws or anything with how he handled himself, with the members of Congress?

The leadership.

GABRIEL: No, he didn't. So the gang of eight for folks who don't know is the Democrat and Republican, Senate majority leaders, minority leaders. House leaders. And the leaders up in the Intelligence communities.

Now, there's a tradition, that sort of the big secrets get briefed to them, things like Chinese espionage, Russian nuclear war, but there's not any legal requirement on this. And I'll tell you, when president Obama killed Osama Bin Laden.

There wasn't a notification to Congress on that either.

GLENN: Didn't hear anything about that.

GABRIEL: It's more of a tradition of deference to Congress. If you want to tell them, special things, you can.

But there's no legal requirement.

It's really just the way sort of things are often done for big intelligence things.

This is a military operation, more than an intelligence operation.

So I don't even think they're supplies in this case

GLENN: So let me ask you about something like people like Steve Bannon are saying right now.

They suggested that our Intel was Deep State. War informed by Mossad.

What Intel did you receive during the first Trump administration, that would leave you to believe that this is a sincere threat to American interests, not just a -- a justification to help Israel?

GABRIEL: You know, a lot of it, you don't even have to get the intelligence reports from.

It's the fact that they promised at the highest levels of leadership, they promised to wipe Israel off the map. They promised to destroy America.

So they have pensions there.

In terms of capability, what we saw, they were retaining the secret archive of everything needed to build a nuclear weapon.

And they never declared that during Obama's Iran Deal. And so even in Obama's Iran deal, they were breaking that from day one, about having the secret archive.

And then they had a bunch of nuclear scientists working on weaponization activities.

On the kinds of things that you need to actually physically assemble warheads and make something explode. And so all of that has been public knowledge for years. And so with -- you know, with respect to -- our Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard. I think it's ridiculous that any country would get to the 99-yard line of getting nuclear weapons.

But say that they don't intend at some point to cross into the touch down zone that defied logic, frankly.

GLENN: Correct.

You know, I'm hearing from both sides, that Trump was negotiating. I think trying to negotiate.
And the other side, Iran says, they were never serious. In fact, we would show up. And then they would never show up.

Can you give me any insight on what the negotiations were actually like, prior to the strikes, and do you think things are different now.

And if so, how?

GABRIEL: I think President Trump was genuinely interested in solving this the diplomatic way.

I will tell you, he gave them very generous terms. He gave them a lot of what they had asked for.

He came back a long ways from his position of 2018 to 2020. Where he had those 12 demands on Iraq.

Here he only had three or four things that were really essential.

But what the Iranians did. And they have always done this.

They tried to negotiate every syllable point.

They tried to get more and more and more.

Every time they would agree to something, they would come back and renege on it. This wasn't the behavior of someone that wants to solve this. This is a behavior someone that wanted to delay for time, and wanted to try to extract every concession. Not the behavior of someone that genuinely wanted to live in peace with the United States and Israel.

GLENN: I am so impressed with the team around Donald Trump.

Especially with Marco Rubio. I didn't know what to expect from Marco Rubio.

As a secretary of state. I think he's been just outstanding. What had you had his message be to Iran now?

GABRIEL: You know, I think it would be this. You guys have the option to respond logically, or respond emotionally.

The logical path would be to say, look, all our air defenses are gone. Our ballistic missiles are mostly gone. Our nuclear program is gone.

It's time to negotiate the terms of surrender, in a way that gives us sanity. In a way that allows our government to survive.

And to save our people from more destruction and economic misery. That would be the logical step.

And the emotional step is: We're going to go, attack American bases, extract revenge.

And I think what Secretary Rubio should do, is lay out really clearly for Iranian leaders the consequences of that emotional path.

And say, if you do this, you will have your leadership wiped out. You will see the rest of your ballistic missile program wiped out. And you won't get good terms of negotiation.

So if you can box in Iran's leaders, give them a good off ramp, saying, hey. Here's a realistic path that you can take to preserve your interests. And to maintain peace.

But don't take that hard path.

GLENN: Okay. So Rick Grenell said, he spoke to somebody. An Iranian source on the ground.

Who said, things on the ground are really, really bad. They're locking everybody up in their house.

You know, it's marshal law.

They've already rounded up a group of religious dissidents that they say were spies for Israel.

But executed like 100 of them over the weekend.

They've arrested hundreds -- hundreds more. The -- I can't remember the name of the religious police.

It's Iran. Can't remember. Maybe you know.

GABRIEL: That's probably the besiege. Probably the besiege.

GLENN: Yeah. Yes. Exactly right.

And they are on the streets, pretty mercilessly right now, checking everybody's phone, their car. I mean, it's very dangerous.

Do you think there's a chance, that the people can rise up and why hasn't the president encouraged them to rise up yet?

GABRIEL: You know, I think the Iranian people want to get rid of this regime.

But I will tell you, hearing some Iranians myself, I hear, they're pretty afraid for themselves.

They are having to evacuate their teams. They're trying to find a shelter. They don't know what what's going to happen. And so they probably won't take to the streets. And go over to the government right now.

But a month from now, this war is over. That's really the time where they could see their whole leadership crippled. And say, we want a new future.

And one of the things that is really good right now, which is really smart. Is they are destroying the internal government bureaucracy that is used to depressed the Iranians. You know, the gestapo stations, for lack of a better term. All the units which torture people. Arrest people. Murder people. Their high-tech surveillance.

They're showing all these institutions, which used to be the ones that masked the Iranian people. And so they're paving the way, that if the Iranians decide to take to the streets down the road, that they will be empowered. They will be able to gain momentum.

And that they would be actually successful in those efforts to overthrow the regime. Go ahead.

GLENN: Go ahead. No, no, no. Please, go ahead.

GABRIEL: I saw President Trump, I think yesterday, he sort of provided an opening for the regime change.

And he started saying, look, if the government will not do the smart thing, the Iranian people should take control of their own future. And change the regime themselves. So that's the first time we've seen that from President Trump in the administration reviews. Sort of encourage the Iranian people, to overthrow this regime. I think that's a smart thing to do.

I don't think we can get a full resolution, to the nuclear threat, while this regime is in power.

GLENN: Right.

Polaris National Security president, Gabriel Noronha is with us now.

Gabriel, I have hope, that this could be a Poland situation, if the people would rise up and the regime is toppled.

But we have not seen that anywhere else in the Middle East.

Is it possible. Is it probable that the Iranian people would choose to go away, and become more, what they were in the 1970s?

GABRIEL: It is possible, yes.

I would probably only give it a 35 percent chance. Here's why, I put it that low.

It's the Iranian leaders, unlike like leaders in Poland, unlike even Gorbachev, are willing to use as much military force as necessary, to kill those protesters, and stay in power.

And that makes it really tough for them.

What you don't have in Iran, is you don't have a military group, that has power, that has guns.

That is able to overthrow the regime. The regime would basically have to collapse under its own weight.

Under its own corruption. And under its own weakness.

GLENN: And if it did.

GABRIEL: But you won't have it removed.

GLENN: If it did collapse, would it be taken over by other extremists?

Or is there at least an even shot, that the people could have it?

GABRIEL: You know, there's a good shot that the people would have it.

There's a large number of Iranians, who all they really want is a secular government that is at peace with its neighbors.

That doesn't pursue a nuclear weapon.

That allows the Iranian people to thrive, build a future for themselves. That's what I hope happens.

It's a small possibility. But it's what we can work for and hope for.

GLENN: And pray for.

Great, Gabriel. Thank you so much.

Thanks for your service to the nation, and thanks for the update. Appreciate it.

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HORROR at home: Why the FBI can no longer track Iran’s terrorists

“We’ve seen this movie before,” Glenn Beck warns after President Trump bombed Iran. The last time Islamists attacked America, the country united to destroy them. So, Iran may want to think twice before retaliating. But will Iran care about the consequences? Glenn explains the dark truth about Iran: this isn’t a “Muslim” nation. It’s an evil, fascist regime.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: All righty. We've seen this movie before.
And, you know, this weekend, we've struck without any fanfare, just really clarity, and resolve. We struck, at the heart of Iran's nuclear facilities.
And I want to speak really plainly here.

Iran is not just a rogue state. We have a rogue state in North Korea, and it's bad.

What Iran is, is the nerve center of Islamic terror. They give 700 million dollars a year, to Hezbollah. $100 million to Hamas. That's almost as much money I think as we give to Hamas.

They drain militias from Gaza to Venezuela. Did you know that Hamas was in Venezuela? Yeah. Why are they trending in Venezuela?

I think you know the answer to that. The IRGC's -- the Kuds force, personally loyal to the Ayatollah Khomeini.

They run global assassination plots. They have tentacles across the Middle East, Europe, and now here. They plotted the demise and the assassination of our president, President Trump.
I thought it was very restrained of him, not to target their leader. Seeing that their leader targeted him just last summer.

And while we're sitting here and we're arguing about pronouns, and all of the ridiculous things that we are arguing about, they are busy building drone factories in Syria. And terror tunnels under Gaza. And sleeper cells in the West.

We have so many sleeper cells because of Joe Biden, that our FBI cannot keep up. I have heard. I don't know if this is true.

But I have heard this weekend, that we can't keep up with the terror cells that we have here in America.

It is so out of control, that we no longer have time to really track down and stop the terror cells outside of America. So what happened this weekend, is we opened a gate.

But I want you to understand, in 2023 alone, the US Border Patrol caught over 8,000 special interest aliens, people from nations linked to terror.

And the FBI just lost track of them!

Now, they are arresting them in record numbers, from what I understand.

I hope that that is true. And I hope we can catch them before anything happens. But these are not nameless nobodies. They are trained. They are embedded.

And they are waiting! Not just here in America. But all over the world. And when America pushes back, what happened? The media immediately screams Islamophobia. Why?

Because that's a made up thing in the first place. I think CAIR made that up. Islamophobia.

I'm not afraid of Islam. I'm afraid of those who want to impose the Koran and the hadith on everyone, by force.

Now, you should have a phobia against that. You should be phobic against that. Let me say this as clearly as I can. This is not about Muslims. This is about Islamists.

There is a difference. A Muslim, like a Catholic. Practices a faith.

And an Islamist imposes a regime. And that is happening here in the United States. A Muslim may pray, forgive, assimilate. But an Islamist believes you must bow or die.

That's what I'm against. And I think every American should be that way as well.

Oh, no. But we're just two Islamophobia. We're just too filled with these -- with our hatred of anything that is different.

Well, do you remember back in the day, when we were going after a guy named Osama Bin Laden? And at the same time, we elected a guy named Barack Hussein Obama. Obama. Osama. Hussein. Saddam Hussein.

I mean, it doesn't seem like. It seems like, we can chew gum and walk at the same time.

Seems like we can differentiate between the two. That's not bigotry.

It's grace. Because that's who we are.

We are a nation, that at times, is bigoted.

And at other times. Has grace.

But grace can very easily become suicide.

So let me talk to you here about some things that Islamism brings in plain sight.

Okay?

In Iran, girls are married as young as nine. Are you for that?

Have you seen any of the videos of the young girls, that are married off at nine years old?

And how they leave with their 50-year-old husbands? In 2024, last year, a bill was advanced in their parliament to codify it, again. Just to make sure everybody is okay with that. Let's codify it again. In Afghanistan, 53 percent of the women were married before 18. 21 percent of the women are married before 15!

Honor killings.

Another super, duper classic from the people who bring you Islamists.

They claim 5,000 girls and women every year. Are burned, strangled, or stoned to death, by their own family.

In Paris, 77 percent of the solved rape cases in 2023 involved foreign-born suspects.

Why?

Because the hadith says, it's okay, as long as they're an infidel. You can do whatever you want to them.

In Sweden, over 58 percent of the convicted rapists were immigrants.

In Germany, asylum seekers made up less than 2 percent of the population, but have 8.5 percent of the crime suspects. This is not immigration, that we're dealing with. This is ideological importation.

If you're a Muslim and you're Westernized, you fled tyranny. Because you know this story better than I do.

Because when Islamists take power, they kill you first.

They don't come after me first. They kill you first.

Because you have betrayed Islam, according to their twisted ideology.

Yet, you still pray five times a day.

They stone your daughters. They throw your homosexual son a rooftop. They burn the apostates like you.

They behead converts. They erase liberty. They erase women.

They erase all dissent. This is not a faith!

This is fascism, in a turbine.

What we're going up against in the world, is not a faith.

If anything, if I want to put it in the category of faith, when you're talking about Islamists. And Islamism. It is evil.

It is the faith of the Antichrist. I'm convinced of it.

Now, that doesn't mean Muslims. That means, those who want the regime to impose this.

And we in the West, America in particular, we are asleep at the wheel.

Look at Europe. But here, in America, let's just stick to America for a second.

Our cities are being overrun with antisemitic mobs, calling for an intifada.

That means, basically, revolution, and a killing of anybody who disagrees with them.

Our campuses echo chants from the river to the sea. Which means, wipe out all Jews.

That's what that means, you dopes.

Our government, overwhelmed, can no longer chase Islamic terrorists. Outside of our borders. Because they're inside of our borders now.

But let me tell you -- let me make a warning, to both the Islamists and honestly, to ourselves.

You want to see America unite again, let one of these mobs or several of these sleeper cells cross the wrong line.

It's one thing to march with the flag and chant death to America. It's another to go into our malls, into our homes, into our schools, into our places of worship, and just start killing people.

We're divided. Uh-huh. But right now, there's at least 100 million Americans who know what's at stake.

They're wide awake. You start doing this, and Americans aren't going to follow. Americans are going to stand up against you.

Not all. We have our crazies here too. And it's -- what we're standing up for is not just our nation. It's our civilization.

It's our daughters. And their right to live free and unveiled.

It's the ability to walk the streets without being told, we've provoked our own assault.

And let me tell you, I think America is done importing abuse and calling it tolerance.

We're done.

I, for one, will always welcome those who love liberty, and want to support and live under the light of liberty.

But it's time for us to stop bowing to those who wish to destroy that liberty. And to the Islamists that are here, you might think that we are weak, you might think that we are distracted, but I believe you are terribly wrong.

See, we've seen this movie before. And it had a different ending.

It went into softness and tolerance, and everything else.

We didn't know how to define our enemy back then. We just thought, hmm. Muslims.

Trouble on planes.

At least, that's the way we were painted.

But most of us didn't know anything about the Middle East or Islam, or anything else.

And we couldn't believe that, you know, they could come over here, and do any more than just the hijacking of planes.

We never imagined 25 years ago, what could happen to a place like Europe, or our own streets?

We never, ever imagined at the time, that we could see hundreds, if not thousands of people, in the streets, fighting and setting fires for communism. And Islamism.

I was called crazy for saying that this would happen in 2008, '9, '11, '12. And here it is.

We've seen this movie before. But I promise you, we've written a new ending.

And this is a warning not just for Islamists, but also for all of us.

We have got to guard our liberty.

Because they start causing trouble on the streets.

I mean, real trouble.

You start to have a Beslan here and there.

We will go fascistic overnight.

And we can never become the thing that we despise. Fight it. Those things we despite.

We have to be very, very careful. But it starts first, with moral clarity.

Do you believe it's okay for a 9-year-old to be married off in an arranged marriage?

I don't.

I think it's pretty career.

Do you believe it's okay to stone a woman for adultery? But the guy gets away. Do you believe it's okay to stone anybody to death?

Do you believe it's okay to behead infidels, or behead anyone who disagrees with you?

You don't have to be a member of Islam. You can be a communist. Is it okay to line you up against the wall and shoot you, because you don't believe in communism.

These ideologies have an awful lot in common. And it's all on the dark side and death.

The time to think things through, is right now!

Most people don't want to even look at this. Most people don't want to think this could happen.

But I urge you to look at what's happening in Europe.

I don't know if we're going to do it this week or next week. But I hope the Wednesday night special, either this week or next week -- I hope it's this week, if we have time -- is to show you the footage that is coming out of these mass demonstrations, and the craziness that is happening over in Europe.

You need to see it. I mean, I -- I wrote out a show last night. I will present it to the producers today, to see if we can pull it off this week. But I don't want to say very much.

I just want to show you what's happening all around the world.

Because it's very clear. We've been invaded. And in our tolerance, we are about to lose the Western civilization. So, Iran, you should be put on notice.

You start unleashing these people, on our streets, you start coming in here, and you start doing terror.

What was that, Toby Keith? Will put a boot up your ass.

That kind of American will show up again, in righteous indignation, and we will put a boot up your ass. Because there's at least 100 million of us, that are not going to live under that kind of tyranny, ever.

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Rep. Jasmine Crockett ALMOST gets something right

Democratic Representative Jasmine Crockett has declared a “mental health crisis” in America because of Donald Trump. Well, she’s ALMOST right, Glenn Beck explains. But Trump supporters aren’t the cause of the crisis… Has she seen what just happened at the Oregon State Capitol?!

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GLENN: I don't know what planned for this weekend, but I'll be out protesting. They arrested 75, or sorry. Seventy-six illegals, including Tren de Aragua members in Fort Worth. And I've got to tell you. I'm a little upset about it.

I was just -- so what. They're in a gang!

I mean, our gang. Did you ever watch that, with the little hanky? What's the difference? So here's cut four. This is from Fort Worth.

VOICE: Areas of Fort Worth with high crime rates were targeted in a two-month initiative called Operation Showdown.

Seventy-six people were arrested on firearm and drug crimes.

VOICE: Many of the individuals arrested in this operation are convicted, violent felons. Others are in our country illegally, and have suspected ties to the Venezuelan trans national criminal organization, Tren de Aragua, also known as TDA.

GLENN: Yeah. Known as TDA for people who can't pronounce it. Anyway, I -- you know, why are they just persecuting these poor people that are just coming in for him?

And they're bringing their gang. Because they're like, hey. I just want to melt into the society.

You know, I will bring the best from my country, TDA.

And I will melt into this one. And then I might kill some people, et cetera, et cetera. But I don't understand.

STU: This is where Trump got it wrong.

I mean, he was saying that they're sending us their worst. These are their best criminals. They're fantastic at it.

They're really, really good gang members.
And I'm glad they're here.

GLENN: Yeah. Me too. Me too.

Now, let me take to you Oregon, to the Capitol, where the House of Representatives, on the floor of the House of Representatives, in the Oregon Capitol, did a circus drag show. Here it is. Cut five.
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STU: What the hell is this?
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GLENN: What are you talking about? It's two guys dressed as women. You know, one without a shirt on apparently, and just dancing with blue hair.

STU: What the hell is happening? At the Oregon Capitol in front of the House of Representatives. It's like that typical C-SPAN segment with the ridiculous drag show going on.

And they're not doing anything, except canceling to seemingly prerecorded music.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: Wow.

What a skill that is. What a skill.

GLENN: What I love is just all the guys that are just sitting there. I mean, look at that.

They're just sitting there. Most of them aren't even looking.

They're sitting in their seats at the Capitol.

Okay. Mr. Speaker!

Can we get back to some business here?

STU: They're all in that weird.

I remember when Oprah had a show. And there would be awe musical performer. And they would feel the need to show Oprah dancing around.

And it's super awkward.

That's all their not what you do, when you're sitting individually in a seat.

She is trying to act like she's into it.

She never knew the word.

That's kind of what it looks like to people.

They're sitting there, trying to decide what the appropriate reaction is to this.

By the way, the answer is to walk out. That's a good one.

GLENN: Yeah. That's a good one.

You get up and you walk out.

So you are living in Oregon.

You might walk out and be stoned to death.

Probably should have walked out on that one.

I just -- I wonder, you know. Oregon.

What?

What are your electing officials doing? If you want to go to a drag show, that's fine.

But why in the middle of the workday?

In the state House of Representatives.

I -- was this a lead-up to I like silky blue hair votes.

Or what?

What is this?

STU: Hmm. It's a great question.

Where -- where do you think we are?

I was talking to Steve Deace yesterday, on your show.

And he -- we were talking about where are we in this situation with the -- the woke trans, you know, LGBTQQIA2+ thing.

Are we -- is it still advancing, the way that it was before? Have we turned it back?

Are we, you know, at a standoff?

Where do you think we are?

GLENN: I think we're -- I think we're turning it back. And it's going to implode on itself very soon.

STU: That's pretty optimistic.

GLENN: Listen to this.

Under a new leader, Ken Martin the Democratic National Committee has been plagued by infighting and a drop in donation, raising alarms from Democrats as they try to win back power.

Just moments into the tenure of the new party leader, Kevin Martin, the Democratic National Committee is finding that the situation has grown so bleak, that top officials have discussed whether they might need to borrow money this year, whether to keep paying bills. Why do you think that's happening?

Why do you think that's happening?

I will tell you, why that's happening.

The same reason why it's happening. New York City Pride parade loses corporate sponsors. Why? Why?

You can blame it on the economy, but that's not what's happening.

You have this. Jasmine Crockett, yesterday. We have a mental health crisis in this country. Because everybody, no matter how you affiliate yourself should be against a Donald Trump.

Wait. Wait.

That's the mental health problem?

STU: Right. I was going to say --

GLENN: Can I show you the footage again in the statehouse?

STU: I was going to say, the fact that Jasmine Crockett got elected shows, she is correct, we have a mental health problem in this country. Just to back you up on this, on the New York Times as well. We've reached rainbow capitalism's end.

GLENN: Yep.

STU: And it's from like -- you know, you know, LGBTQIA activist.

Who talks about how all these parades are losing money.

They're hundreds of dollars in the hole. Because these companies are not coming out and supporting them.

They say -- this is interesting. Bark Box. You know Bark Box?

GLENN: No. I'm proud to say no.

STU: It's like a subscription box where they send your dogs treats and toys every month.

GLENN: No, let's just say no.

STU: Just so you know, if you have a wife and a pet, you're probably subscribed to it. They sent an internal message in early June, where they said, quote, we have made the decision to pause all paid ads and life cycle marketing pushes for the Pride kit available immediately.

We need to -- excuse me. Effectively immediately.

We need to acknowledge that the current climate makes this promotion feel like a political statement, than a universally joyful moment for all dog people.

Now, I don't know if dog people means the people who own dogs. Or people who identify as dogs. I could honestly go the other way on that one.

GLENN: Rough call. Rough call.

STU: It's interesting, a lot of this is -- these are just capitalist decisions, right?

They're not decisions saying, hey. We agree that, you know, mutilating your child is a bad idea.
It's just capitalism kind of people saying, wait a minute.

They don't believe that. So we don't want to push it. We don't want to be known as the dog treat company, that, you know, stands for pride.

We just want to be the dog treat company that everybody likes.

GLENN: What a surprise.

STU: I think that's a good move.

It's not necessarily a lasting trend though.

GLENN: No.

STU: Because it reverses itself --

GLENN: You're always going to have people that just go where the -- where the popular movement is, where they can make a buck. Okay.

You will always have that. You know, but I hope that some people have learned their lesson. That, you know, stop it. But here's the real problem. The real problem is that you're not having a massive movement.

They would be -- they would be -- the coffers would be empty. If it wasn't for government graft. And insider, you know, trading, if you will.

Our tax dollars for their power.

The -- the sad thing is, that this pathetic was made during Occupy Wall Street. I'm absolutely convinced of it.

Occupy Wall Street. It just didn't disappear or fade out.

Wait. A year after Occupy Wall Street, the leader of Occupy Wall Street is an honored guest at the WEF, which is nothing, but politicians and giant corporations?

And he's like, you know, we found out, we're real allies.

It happened because all of these fringe groups, that were cobbling together, their power. With Occupy Wall Street.

All of the big corporations, all of the big businesses.

All of Wall Street.

They all got together and said, you know what, leave us alone.

We'll help fund your crazy things we really believe in. We'll fund all of these things. Just leave us alone!
And it was right after Occupy Wall Street. That all of these corporations, that were just being pounded in the streets, all of a sudden, they're good guys. To all the Occupy Wall Street.

To all the leftists. They're all fine with those guys then. And what do we see? We see them just pour money in the coffers of all of these left-wing groups. BLM.

Everybody did it. That's all that was. You know, but the American people see that. But they also see crazy things.

Wednesday, Maxwell Frost, he's a Florida Congressman. He suggested granting citizenship to every illegal alien in the country, because if Republicans don't want illegal aliens in America, the fix is simple. We just make them legal.

Okay. We're an immigrant-filled community. We're a community filled with people.

And, yes, people are going to have different statuses. And I want my Republican colleagues that say, I don't want any undocumented people in this country.

I actually agree with you.

So let's document everybody. That's how we fix this problem.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Really, honestly, the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Is that in line with the American people? No especially when New York City. I'm sorry. New York. US attorney in this morning.

Was -- was walking in the street. He had just left his office. He's -- he's strolling by a Hilton Hotel.

Suddenly, he spots a man behaving suspiciously. He says, I have my eye on him.

I turn back, I'm in front of the Hilton. I'm standing there. And I'm looking at him.

And he starts yelling at me. In a language I don't understand.

Then he pulls out a knife. And lungs at me.

Now, they know who this guy is. He's an illegal alien. And they think this illegal alien knew exactly who this guy was.

Well, they didn't kill him, like they killed the insurance -- the medical insurance CEO.

So they don't have a hero here.

But this guy is being shipped out.

But, you know, here it is.

Again, the -- the uber, uber left, that is empowering all of this stuff.

There was a viral video that was out for ICE.

A detainee. And everybody was like, he was a dad.

And his wife was about to have a baby.

And they just scooped him up in the middle of the night.

And look at how bad this is.

GLENN: Well, yeah.

I mean, the problem is, you know, he was in a gang. He was convicted of murder, attempted murdered. Sentenced to 82 years in prison. He served 14 years.

But he was married to a US citizen. But notified by ICE that he had a report for deportation on June 12th.

So he was, you know, gee, I mean, it was just a murderer. It was just a murderer. That's it.

Meanwhile, the ICE facility in Portland, under daily siege by Antifa militants and riots, as they spread.

You're seeing now, 400 threats, in coming, to members of the ICE over and over and over and over again.

And nobody is doing anything.

I mean, they -- there's a 500 percent increase, in assaults. Not just threats. 500 percent increase in assaults.

While trying to arrest illegals. Okay.

All right.

This is not -- this is not what the American people want. This is not who the American people are.

It's not.

It's not. And I am absolutely convinced that there's something else also going on here.

And that something else is that, I don't know who it is.

China, Iran. Russia. Any of our enemies. Any of our enemies. We have enough of them.

They are stirring things up, I mean, is it a coincidence that last two weeks, it was all about the violence and everything else about the left?

And then their No Kings protest goes off. Then all of a sudden, this week, we're turning on each other. Everybody on the right is turning on each other.

Is that just a coincidence, really? Or are we being molded and shaped? Are we being pushed by foreign adversaries and adversaries here in the United States that want to see us turn on each other? Can't do it. Pay attention to what's really important because most of this stuff is not important. But pay attention to what's really important. If something is trying to split you up from people you already trust, don't listen to them. I don't care what they say, who they say they are.

They are not a friend of the republic.