GLENN: Stu, I -- could you just do me a favor? Could you just Google something for me?
GLENN: A wall.
GLENN: Could you just Google that for me?
STU: Like the definition?
GLENN: The definition of a wall or wall.
STU: A continuous vertical brick or stone structure that encloses or divides a corner of land.
GLENN: No. Get to the one that says a concept of amnesty.
STU: I'm going to be scrolling for a while I think to get to --
GLENN: You don't think that's -- scroll amnesty wall. Google that. Amnesty wall.
STU: Amnesty wall.
GLENN: Because there's a new thing happening here -- and we're going to play the audio here in a second, where everybody is saying, "No, he didn't mean a wall, wall." Well, what the hell did he -- wait. What?
STU: You thought he meant a wall, wall?
GLENN: A wall, like the one that I thought we all agreed on was the definition of the four-letter word, wall.
STU: See, he didn't mean a wall. You're thinking of a wall like a wall you would use to separate to --
GLENN: Right. Yes. Yes.
STU: That's a common mistake, that's --
GLENN: Okay. What did he mean when he said -- no, he was talking about a concept. When he was talking about hanging solar panels.
STU: On the concept, yes.
GLENN: What kind of concept holds solar panels up?
STU: A wall concept.
STU: A solar wall concept hangs solar panels.
GLENN: So this wall, it's a wall concept, is that like an occasional table?
STU: Yes. I think it's like an occasional table.
GLENN: I mean, it's an occasional table. I don't know what it is the rest of the time, but occasionally, I think it's a table. I don't know what that means. So maybe this is a concept wall, like an occasional table. But I will tell you, if that indeed is true, occasional tables are always still tables.
VOICE: Is it a real wall that you're talking about, or a fence?
VOICE: I think that what the definition of a wall is something that we all need to have a serious conversation. In some cases, it will be a bollard fence, which was in fact, was appropriated last year. And we've already begun construction --
VOICE: In that tweet, the president tweeted yesterday, the wall, which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls will be --
GLENN: This is Mark Short over the weekend from the White House.
VOICE: That's a far cry from there will be a wall and Mexico will pay for it.
VOICE: Well, Wolfe, there's already, in fact, in many cases along the Rio Grande River levies that are built. And, in fact, are higher in some cases than what the wall would be.
So, yes, it is a myriad of different structures along the wall that we expect to be secure to make sure that Americans are safe.
VOICE: He promised the wall, and Mexico will pay for it. Will he deliver on that promise?
VOICE: The president is going to deliver on his promise.
VOICE: How are you going to convince the Mexicans to pay for it? They say there's no way they're going to pay for it. The president of Mexico, he says, that isn't happening. We all saw the transcript of that conversation he had the president.
VOICE: Yeah, Wolfe, I've doubted the president before. I've been proven wrong. I suspect that he's going to make sure that that wall is built and that Mexico will pay for it.
STU: We have to have a conversation about what the word "wall" means.
GLENN: What do you mean?
STU: Because we were told there was going to be a wall.
GLENN: A physical wall.
STU: And now we have to have a serious conversation about the definition of a wall.
GLENN: No, actually we don't. Here's -- from Fox & Friends, here's Steve Doocy.
VOICE: Has the wall almost become symbolic? I mean, I know the president ran on it. It was a mantra. But at the same time, border crossings have gone down dramatically.
VOICE: And you were talking about how the wall exists in certain forms. And there's money to go to it. It has to come from Congress. But do you think we'll get to the point where maybe they won't build a wall.
GLENN: Hmm. Maybe they won't build a wall.
STU: So the definition of wall is mantra? It's mantra?
STU: So it's not a wall, wall? Like when I think of a wall, I think of a wall.
GLENN: No. It's -- this is more of cotton in a vase. This is more decorative.
STU: Oh, it's decorative?
GLENN: It's decorative. The wall is more decorative. And gets us to start a conversation, which is another theory that was passed around this weekend.
VOICE: So is Trump going back on his promise on the wall, or was the wall his blunt way of raising the issue? Saying build a wall is just a catchier way of saying, fix our borders. Face it, saying I love you is way better than saying, "I have a biological attraction to you that may wear off at some point."
STU: I -- wait. So it wasn't a wall. It was a catchier way of saying control the border? That is what it is?
GLENN: That's clearly what it is.
STU: It's clearly what it was. So when they're saying wall, what they're saying is basically amnesty?
GLENN: Yes. Yes.
STU: Okay. So it's --
GLENN: Yes. See, here's the deal: Look, I understand people -- people are going to -- people want to live here.
They want to live where Fox is telling them to go live because you don't want to feel like you were duped. And I understand that.
And it is human nature. And you want to give somebody -- you've trusted -- you've put a lot of stock into. And so you don't want to feel like, "Oh, wait a minute. He was lying." So what you will do is you will lower the standards. It is the Overton Window. You will lower the standards and you will say, "Yes, well, him just saying that has turned around people coming across the border." Well, why is it? Why is it we wouldn't have a conversation in America on -- on amnesty, and why wouldn't we have a conversation on any kind of border security that seemed reasonable to people? We wouldn't have that conversation because we said, the next president that comes in, all he's going to do is reverse it.
You have to have a physical wall because the next president -- and so we'll be going back and forth. Every four years, we'll just be going back and forth. And we can't do that. That was your reason.
And now, people just don't want to feel humiliated. And they don't want to feel like they were duped. And so they are -- they're giving themselves an out. Please don't go over the cliff with the rest of society. Please don't do that.
There has to be something that is true and solid like a wall in your life, that you say, "Okay. I'm not going to cross this wall."
STU: So you're saying I can cross those lines when I need to is what you're saying? In my life -- there are certain lines that I can kind of just move over when needed?
GLENN: Exactly right. Except completely reverse it.
STU: Then everything will be fine.