GLENN: So Pat Gray is here from Pat Gray Unleashed. Welcome to the program.
PAT: Thank you.
GLENN: Hello, Pat. What's on your mind today?
PAT: Hello. I'm pretty proud of FedEx standing up to the pressure, standing up to the 16-year-olds who are tweeting at them, who are all over them on social media, and they actually said, no, we're not going to cut ties with the NRA. We're not going to do that.
How about companies have had the giblets to actually make that decision and stick with them? Very few so far.
STU: Yeah, very few.
PAT: There have been a couple.
GLENN: So where do you stand on -- I mean, I don't like it -- I don't like it that people are cutting ties with the NRA, because it is making the NRA membership look like we're killers. And we're not.
GLENN: You know, it's like AARP or ACLU. The ACLU believes in things, you going to give them a discount? So I don't like this. But I -- I also understand it from the business side of the left is so nasty, they will destroy your business. I personally think, don't do any of them. Don't do ACLU. Don't do the Sierra Club. Don't do any of them.
PAT: Yeah. But, I mean, these are -- these are private businesses making decisions on their own. They're not being forced into these deals.
GLENN: Yeah, right.
PAT: So, yeah.
GLENN: And they're -- they're -- at least for me, I didn't join the NRA for the discounts.
STU: Zero people. Let's be honest about it.
PAT: Very few people did.
GLENN: I don't think anybody did.
PAT: In fact, I don't even know about most of the discounts. I've been kind of surprised.
GLENN: I didn't either. Yeah. I could have been getting a deal this whole time.
PAT: Wait. What is your arrangement with United Airlines? I didn't know about that.
GLENN: I didn't either.
PAT: I guess as I think about it, I have been asked a few times if I'm a member of the NRA. Because, you know, there are certain times where you can get that discount.
STU: Usually when you're -- I mean, but the only time they'll ask you that is probably around firearms. Which some people might think --
GLENN: Yeah, firearms.
STU: Like firearm training and things like that. You might be able to get discounts. But Enterprise rent-a-car? Like there was never a point where I was like, oh, my gosh. I got to go to Enterprise to get that discount because I'm an NRA member.
PAT: And, of course, David Hogg went to work on them immediately. So which companies use FedEx the most? We could pressure them to stop business until FedEx ends their support of the NRA.
PAT: Sell FedEx stock. If they want to stick with the NRA, we'll stick with UPS.
GLENN: This is economic terrorism.
PAT: It is.
GLENN: It's economic terrorism.
PAT: When does this guy go from a sympathetic, you know, 16-year-old character who is grieving, to just your average extremist left-wing activist?
GLENN: Tell me how you felt about Delta getting a slap from the lieutenant governor of Georgia, saying, fine, then you don't get your tax breaks.
PAT: How I felt emotionally? I felt good!
STU: It was satisfying emotionally. I'll grant you.
PAT: It is satisfying.
GLENN: Emotionally, for --
PAT: Emotionally, it just feels good.
GLENN: For a second, you're like, yeah.
GLENN: Although, I don't think I like that. I mean, as a --
PAT: Although, maybe government shouldn't be giving out goodies to --
GLENN: Yeah. You shouldn't be giving it to them in the first place.
GLENN: But if you're going to give it to them, you need to base it on, is it good for the state? I mean, this would really make me -- if I was in Georgia, I would be looking at, wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute. Hold it.
Why are you guys giving this out?
GLENN: I mean, if it's so frivolous that something for the NRA -- which no NRA member has -- I contend, really cares about the discounts. They care about being labeled, you know, a terrorist or a killer or something like that. That's what that is about.
Tell me your -- you're not going to give them that tax. But you were making the case that this was good for jobs. And everything else. So wait. What's happening here?
I mean, it's not good.
PAT: It's true. It's true.
STU: It's like, is the policy the right policy or not? It doesn't become the wrong policy because you're upset against something else they did that's completely separate from what's going on.
PAT: Does it become the right policy when it feels good? Does it then?
GLENN: It does today.
STU: I don't think that's the standard we are supposed to be hitting here.
GLENN: It does today.
PAT: It does today.
STU: But, again, it goes back to, you shouldn't be carving out tax breaks for individual companies anyway.
STU: They shouldn't have had the tax break in the first place.
GLENN: Look, if you're Hollywood, and you say, hey, we want to keep our movies here. So we're going to lower the tax base for all movie studios.
STU: Even that --
GLENN: Yeah. I agree with you.
STU: That's just picking an industry rather than a company.
GLENN: I agree with you.
But it's better than just saying, this particular company -- this particular company.
PAT: And it brings benefit to your state. Your state is going to make money from the movies that are made there.
GLENN: Look. Louisiana -- the only reason why the Duck Dynasty happened, is because Louisiana made its tax burden so low, if you developed and shot movies in Louisiana, that it was crazy. So they -- they actually -- the company got together and said, find something in Louisiana. That's how they found the guys from Duck Dynasty. They found them because they were financially motivated to find that. So it can help you.
STU: So what do they do? It can.
It's a real question -- right. Where does that money come from? Right? So we raise taxes on other people in the state to pay for Duck Dynasty?
GLENN: I agree. I don't want it. I don't want special favors. I don't want tax breaks. I want flat taxes, period.
STU: Right. Right.
PAT: That's just not going to happen.
PAT: That's not going to happen.
STU: This is an interesting reveal of how transparent this process is.
PAT: And how far we've come.
STU: Here's a favor for Delta. Now we don't like their policy. So now we're taking it away. It's like, we're giving you a giveaway. Now we're slapping your wrist.
GLENN: And what makes us different -- we like it this time.
But, you know, if the government said to us, you know, oh, you're supporting the NRA, oh, you don't get your tax break, would you be cool with that?
PAT: No. Of course not.
GLENN: No. So we can't celebrate when injustice is done to the other side. It might feel good. But that's not necessarily how you should rule your life.
PAT: Very true.