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Kamala deserves an OSCAR after this performance with Oprah Winfrey
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Kamala deserves an OSCAR after this performance with Oprah Winfrey

Kamala Harris recently sat down with Oprah Winfrey for a 'Unite For America' event, and Kamala attempted to appeal to gun owners when she told Oprah that she was a gun owner and stated that 'If somebody breaks into my house, they're getting shot.' Glenn and Stu actually praise Kamala because that acting job was phenomenal. The guys also discuss Kamala's promises to fix the economic problems plaguing America, even though the problems are due to her and her elderly president's actions.

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GLENN: Can we may Kamala Harris, please?

Cut one.

This is -- wow.

VOICE: I'm a gun owner too.

VOICE: I did not know that.

VOICE: And I thought my house was getting shot.

VOICE: Yes. Yes. I hear that.Ism that.

VOICE: Probably should not have said that, but we'll deal with that later.

GLENN: All right. Just laughing it up. It's great. So she's a gun owner.

I would like anyone -- anyone in the press, to ask, what kind of gun do you own?


STU: When did you get it? Where did you get it?

GLENN: Okay.

STU: What gun store did you purchase it from, for example? Where, yeah. When was the last time you went to the range?

You know what I mean?

I would love to know that question. Because she's the exact kind of person, you don't want to own a gun.

She, I can guarantee you, wearing the goggles and the earphones to protect her ears. Out of the firing range.

Oh, I do it once a month. No, you don't. You've never fired the gun.

Reason fired the gun.

This is such a sham! This is such. This is such, all the world is, but a stage. And we're merely, but its players.

I mean, this is a performance.

She deserves an Oscar for this.

And, you know what, the way things are in America, she could win one!

They might at the end of this one, because they don't care anymore. They'll be like, and for best actress, pretending that she was like -- liked America and a gun owner. Kamala Harris.

STU: Yeah! Good job. She can have that award, as long as she accepts it when she doesn't live in the White House.

That is -- I do think it was a relatively smart tactic on this one.

I think it was somewhat of a smart tactic. Because the American people see Oprah as an interview show.

Like they see, when they see that set up. They see an interview. But this is a woman who spoke at her convention.

This is almost a running mate. This is not an interview.

The good thing about having this setup. And I think this is why it's smart.

Is look, Kamala Harris had some bad moments in that interview, absolutely.

But Oprah is a pro, at being able to smooth those over and talk her into it. And lead her in the right directions.

It's like an interview coach on stage with her, as she's doing it.

That's incredible.

GLENN: I know. I know. But she couldn't answer one question. Here it is.

Cut two, please.

VOICE: We would really love to know, what your plan is as to lowering the cost of living.

KAMALA: Yeah. First of all, thank you both for being here. And yours is a story I hear around the country, as I travel.

STU: Say it.

KAMALA: And in terms of both rightly having the right to have aspirations and dreams.

STU: There we go.

GLENN: The rights to have those aspirations --

KAMALA: And ambitions for your family, and working hard and finding that the American dream is, for this generation, and so many recently, far more elusive than it's ever been.

And we need to deal with that. And there are a number of ways. One is bringing down the cost of everyday necessities, including --

GLENN: And that was the question: How are you going to do that? That was the question: How are you going to bring down the costs?

So you've got lots of ideas. Lots of ideas to fight this.

And what we have to do is bring down the cost of everyday necessities.

STU: Important -- first of all, it's so ridiculous.

This is what she does. She like remembers a few words from the question, and then just works them into her answer. And then fills it with nonsense. Jibber-jabber. Idiocy.

GLENN: No. No. No.

STU: But what I will say, about her proposals here, and her identification of the problems. Bring them down, from what?
(laughter)
Bring them down, from what? From you! From your administration.

You're sitting here running for president. Saying you're going to solve the problems that you yourself and your dopey 900-year-old running mate created.

It's incredible. How could anyone believe this?

GLENN: Do we have the clip?

It was on yesterday's.

Clip from my show on Wednesday. Where I was showing.

This is so amazing, Stu. I showed the inflation rate.

And how it's going down.

STU: Ah. Okay.

GLENN: Do we happen to have that clip by any chance?

STU: It's way down.

I hope you know, it's going way down.

Well, you can tell, when you're buying groceries. Way down.

Watch. All the things they did, three, four years ago.

It's all now picking up speed, and it's all being -- it's all being seen now, by you. But don't worry, it's all fine.

It's just -- it's really, it's all fine.

We're lulled to sleep with reporting like this. The recent Consumer Price Index, quote, inflation cools to 2.5 percent.

Wow, core prices, things like food, housing, energy, cars. Things that we actually buy and need. Were a bit higher at 3.2.

Now, what do you notice about these numbers? 3.5 percent inflation. 3.2 percent inflation. I mean, that seems manageable, right?

It seems almost normal, doesn't it?

We can deal with that. Two and a half percent. 3.2 percent.

Trust in the system, and we'll be all okay.

The government can keep spending. And we can keep swiping the credit cards. Let me take you to the chalkboard for a second.

And show you something the government never wants you to see. And nobody in the mainstream media will ever explain it this way.

Here's the inflation. We've all been hearing for four years now. That there's nothing wrong with the national debt and the deficit. It's fine.

Bidenomics. Bidenomics. The Fed has a plan. Everything is actually okay.

And prices are coming down. Or at least rising at a slower rate.

But is that actually how you feel when you go to the grocery store?

When you pay your energy bill. When you look at your new insurance bill. You fill up the gas tank. Do you feel, oh, it's fine?

Bidenomics is working. Let me show you the reason for the disparity. And also how the government is pulling off their little magic trick.

Let me show you this part of the chalkboard. I will start here. It reflects the Consumer Price Index from 23 to the end of 2024. This is the average cost of goods that we pay to support our families. With things like clothes, cars, gas, energy bills. 3.2 to 2.5. You can see that there's a gradual increase from last year, and then that boom, right at the tail end of 2024.

Like right now, during the election, isn't that weird?

You can see that cooling comes down.

Wow, it doesn't -- it's working.

Bidenomics is working. That's really not that big of a change. I mean, how -- I mean, if this is where we were. How come -- why is it so hard to make ends meet.

Why are our credit cards all maxxed to the limit?

While we're arguing to the numbers. Like 2.5 or 3.2 month to month.

Let me show you the actual chart. See, that was just in one year.

Let me take you all the way back to 1950. This is 1950.

Here's 2020. This is Trump. And this is the inflation, that we had from Biden and Harris.

The government wants you to focus on this, okay?

But let me just show you. This -- this right here, that is this.


STU: It is this little tiny.

GLENN: Teeny sliver. But that is -- you lie down, it's that big.

I mean, that is --

STU: Hmm. Yeah.

GLENN: When you look at the actual chart. Down from, what?

Is the question. Down from what?

STU: Yeah. It's down from all-time highs.

They are responsible for. They're bragging about bringing a slight decrease, from an -- a historic increase, that is their responsibility.

And they're saying, elect us, because we'll do slightly better than the worst of all time.

Which was also us.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

You know, don't worry, because she'll allow you to have a gun in her house.

Well, it won't be her.

It will be Secret Service. But you can have a gun.

And I want to know, how -- how many rounds in your clip, you know.

STU: Right.

GLENN: How many rounds do you have?

Do you have a six shooter. A seven? A ten. A 12. A 20?

What do you have, in that clip? Because that's exactly how she would refer to it.

Well, I've -- I can hold seven rounds. But I only put one.

How many bullets do you need, really?

You know, at times, I will put two or thee in. Because I might be nervous and miss the first couple.

You know, I haven't been to the range for a while. Hope I don't hit anybody else.

It's incredible. It's incredible. As they are making things more dangerous, in America. As they are making crime easier to commit. As they are making more people into criminals, because they can't afford to live. As they're importing criminals into the country, they want to take away your guns. Oh, okay. All right.

That sounds good. Wait a minute. But you will bolster the police. No. We will reimagine the police. Oh, okay.

You know, something tells me that we're headed in the wrong direction.

But Oprah. She knows. We're absolutely fine. And there's nothing to worry about.

After all, she went to Reverend Wright's church too. She knows the truth.

Why Globalists CANNOT Let Trump Win in November | Glenn TV | Ep 379
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Why Globalists CANNOT Let Trump Win in November | Glenn TV | Ep 379

Americans are facing a tough reality that cannot be ignored: We currently do NOT have an operating president (or a vice president) in the White House. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are nothing more than puppets for the global machine. So no, the 2024 presidential election isn’t between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. Rather, Trump is running against the United Nations, the World Economic Forum, the European Union, AND the Center for American Progress all combined. These globalists will do anything to ensure that nothing (and no one) gets in the way of their ultimate goal: the seizure of private property and the redistribution of wealth on a GLOBAL scale. America’s sky-high inflation and insane levels of debt are just the beginning. In fact, on tonight’s "Glenn TV" Wednesday Exclusive, Glenn heads to the chalkboard to demonstrate how the Biden administration is fooling us all with talks of 2.5% inflation. The reality is much more terrifying, and it’s why Americans are still hurting at the gas pump and at the grocery store, no matter what the far Left claims. Later, Glenn previews an upcoming United Nations conference in New York City called "Summit of the Future," which will preview Bill Gates’ and other globalists’ newest goal: the seizure of 30% of the world’s land and oceans. Then, Glenn is joined in-studio by Heartland Institute senior fellow Justin Haskins, who explains how the U.N. is putting together its final pieces to "turn on the global government machine." But could there be a chance we turn ALL of this back around if Trump wins the White House?

Explained: Why the Fed lowering interest rates might be a BAD sign...
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Explained: Why the Fed lowering interest rates might be a BAD sign...

The Federal Reserve just lowered the interest rate by half a point, the first time it has been lowered since 2020, and only the 2nd time it has been lowered by half a point since 2020 and 2007. Is this an accommodative move, or just another restrictive move to try to avoid disaster for as long as possible? Recovering investment banker Carol Roth joins to break down what this lowering means, the possible good and bad signs for why this is happening now, how it'll affect you and your bank account, and what we must continue to look out for.

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GLENN: Welcome to the program, Carol Roth.

I'm hoping you can make sense. And maybe some good news out of what happened yesterday.

Because I can't find a way to it. Because of the history of cutting the interest rate this much.

My first thought is, this is election interference by the fed.

My second thought was, when did they last do this?

And it didn't -- neither of those things lead to good things.

So what's really going on here, Carol?

CAROL: Well, I just want you to know, Glenn. I'm unburdened by what has been. Now the market, in terms of interest rates. Because we are in a rate cutting environment. And I think the important thing to remember is that when we talk about, you know, rate hikes. Rate hikes.

Anything the fed is doing. We have to keep it in context. And the backdrop is that we came out of 15 years of what's called zero interest rate policy.

Where the interest rates were at or near zero.

Unprecedented. As well as the fed putting $9 trillion, plus on its balance sheet.

So this is an unprecedented -- does not have analogue, that we can directly compare to.

Not to say, it's not important to go back, and look at what happened historically. But it doesn't mean exactly the same thing.

And cutting 50 basis points. And half a percent today. Is different than we are cutting it. When interest rates are at 2 percent.

I just want to put that out. Also, somebody, who as we said, on this program many times. That I think the Fed has been way behind the curve. I think they went up too high. And that they were too slow, to cut to begin with. So we'll put that from a backdrop standpoint.

So how does the market interpret, and how should individuals interpret a cut?

Well, there's potentially the bad. And potentially the food. We'll walk through both of those real quickly.

The potential bad is the signal.

When you are saying that the economy is doing amazing. And is just -- you know, it's ripping along.

And then to do a very large cut. They could have done half of that. They could have done 25 basis points. But to come out after not doing anything. And say, oh, we have to move 60 points.

Can send a signal, to say things aren't going so well.

If you looked at the market, yesterday, they were not taking news.

GLENN: It went up, and then when he cut it, it went way down.

CAROL: And once they gave back all the gains yesterday. But today, they have had a day to digest it.

And the market thinks that this is a good thing. Now, the market is not the economy.

GLENN: Yes.

CAROL: But again, after 15 years of zero interest rate policy, you know, it does make sense for us to get back to say to what is considered a neutral rate.

GLENN: Is this a -- is this an inflationary move though?

CAROL: So that's the question. So if you think about what the neutral rate is. Which is theoretical. We don't know the number. But basically, it's the dividing line between policy that is restrictive and policy that is accommodative.

And what we're trying to do is have the Fed have no influence in either direction. I believe that we are still in that restrictive area.

So bringing it down, from -- two, four, and three-quarters, to 5 percent. Again, is not the same as bringing it down to 2 percent.

And so I don't think that will cause inflation. We have to remember too, again, going back to where I started. Companies and individuals have 15 years.

To take out debt. And basically no cost.

This is sitting on company's balance sheets.

They took every piece that they could.

And consumers right now, don't have a lot of runway.

So the idea of, you know, a rate cut, unleashing massive demand, when we've gone to, you know, three-quarters to 5 percent.

I don't see this as something that is going to unleash massive demand.

GLENN: Okay. Here's. Here's. I would just like your opinion on this.

As a businessman. I know, I wouldn't be spending a dime right now, on hiring. Building. Anything.

Not a dime, until I see what happens at the election. And depending on the election, if we go with Harris, and we become much more restrictive, and harder, and more global, and everything else.

I'm -- I mean, I'm just battening down the hatches. If Trump gets in.

I would be willing to they have. Because all right. Good. We have somebody who understands business.

We can hire some more people, et cetera, et cetera.

I don't see anybody making those moves rationally, no matter what the interest rate is.

At this point. Do you?

JASON: I think that's a logical way to digest it. I think in terms of one of your first statements. Is this term, political.

The Biden Harris administration, will be pushing out and saying, look, we have inflation under control.

The Fed said so, otherwise we wouldn't have lowered it or lowered it by so much.

So I think that is the push that they are going out and trying to convince people. Now, they've been trying to convince people of things that makes absolutely no sense, for the last three and a half years. So if I'm a businessperson.

Do I go ahead ask make the investments?

But are there some people that might? It is a push. I think the challenges. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. That if you get worried. That there is a recession.

And you create these restrictive behaviors. That becomes self-fulfilling. And that's one of the things that we end up worrying about.

GLENN: Correct.

So let me ask you about one more thing.

He mentioned the problem with unemployment. Unemployment is going up.

Because you just added 70 to 20 million people to the country.

Is -- I mean, people are saying, anecdotally that -- and we are I guess, seeing it in numbers, that the jobs that are being filled. Are being filled with illegals.

And not American citizens. How long can that go on, before it's just, you know, an absolute wreck?

JASON: So the way that I've interpreted the economy. Is I see it as K shaped.

If you think about the letter K. You have one at that one part of the K that goes up. And the other part that goes down.

And you have the people who are at the lower end of the K. Who have been struggling. And the people who are at that higher part in the K. The asset holders.

The people with the white color jobs in the homes, who have been doing well. And you have to remember, what we've been seeing, is that it really is that higher part of the K, that has been pulling the economy along.

So not only do we have those illegals who are coming in. And creating drains on everything.

Right?

They're creating drains on employment. On the national debt.

On housing. On everything.

But we're also starting to see, these cracks in the white color labor market.

When you hear Amazon saying, oh, we want everybody back in the office.

It means that companies now have the power to demand that. When they didn't have the power. And buried in that statement was. Oh, we're trying to get rid of some managers.

We're seeing more and more layoffs on the tech side.

So if we see that crack, from the white-collar piece. I think, at least in the short-term. That will have the biggest impact on shifting what's going to happen here.

And I think that's what the fed is signaling they're trying to get ahead of.

Whether or not they can do that remains to be seen. Because usually they're always late. But it's true. We have the drag on both sides. We have that drag that's happening on the white color piece.

And then we have this massive illegal immigration that is putting strains on the system.

And, you know, that is going to you, you know, completely shift things.

And I will say, Glenn. We hear all these people talking about technology. And AI.

And how it's going to replace jobs. You know, if you think it's going to replace jobs.

Jobs it will replace are unskilled workers. Right?

The person who is making your burrito with Chipotlé and the like. You can possibly make an argument that we do not need any more legal immigration in this country, with the exception of some very high merit-based people at all.

In addition to this, you know, travesty that is happening with the illegal immigration. So this is going to be, you know, hopefully, we can get President Trump in there. But this needs to be attacked in a serious fashion. Because it will have massive implications on the economy. On top of the biggest issue. And it feeds right into it.

Which is the debt and deficit spending that continues to grow that debt. The fact that that's unwieldy. So all of these things are puzzle pieces. But we can't let the noise about a fed rate cut. Or what's happening. Distract us from that big issue. We need to grow the economy. And we need to reduce spending.

So we can get debt to GDP back to a normalized level. And be able to save our country.

GLENN: Carol, thank you. I appreciate it. Carol Roth. The author of You Will Own Nothing. Former investment banker and a contributor to Blaze.

And also, to this program. I just love her. She explains things the way, you know, people like me, talk. Who -- just regular people. Carol, thank you so much.

It's CarolRoth.com/news.

CarolRoth.com/news.

Former RFK Jr. running mate: ‘Democrats feel entitled’ to destroy democracy
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Former RFK Jr. running mate: ‘Democrats feel entitled’ to destroy democracy

One of the biggest talking points from the Democratic Party is that they're the party that respects democracy while portraying the GOP as the party standing in the way. But according to RFK Jr.'s former running mate, Nicole Shanahan, the exact opposite is true. In fact, according to Nicole, it's the LEFTS treatment of her and RFK Jr. during his 2024 presidential campaign that made Nicole reevaluate everything after seeing the attacks and attempts to destroy their campaign coming from one side of the aisle.

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GLENN: Nicole Shanahan is joining us. How are you, Nicole?

NICOLE: I'm doing well, Glenn. Thanks for having me back on. I'm good.

GLENN: I'm very good. I'm very good. You know, a few months ago, when RFK was running, and you joined.

I thought, well, there goes the conservative vote.

And anybody, you know, anybody who is watching it, because you are Oakland, California.

You are much more liberal. Or progressive.

And now, I'm reevaluating everything, again.

Because there are people that are on the left. Not left.

Well, that are -- well, lean left. That are -- have different points of view, but still love the country.

And we don't see those people very often. In -- in the -- in the news.

You know, and those people, we can get along with, all day long.

If you love the Bill of Rights, I'm with you.

I'm with you.

NICOLE: Yeah. There's a huge population out there right now. And they don't know where to go. A lot of them were attracted to our campaign. And our campaign was really a place to go, if you were kind of socially progressive or liberal. But intellectually educated. And saw what was happening with the Democratic Party, and just none of it reconciled. I mean, if you look at the Democratic Party, over the last eight years. You can't reconcile their relationship with the economy.

It doesn't make any sense. So if your businessperson went to -- and top educational institution, came out. Got a job.

Spent, you know, 20 years, of your career. In front of spreadsheets.

And you're seeing what's going on, under democratic leadership. Even on the state of California, it does not reconcile.

And so a lot of these folks, and lawyers too. Have nowhere to go right now.

And it's been really interesting for me, just in my personal experience. I'm an attorney. I came out of Oakland.

And I worked hard. And, you know, I did -- I did rely on government safety net.

To catch me. I was on government assistance. At times, as a child.

But it was -- it was never a place to stay. The goal was always to work your way out of that. And those were the foundations of the ethics that I grew up on.

GLENN: Right. Those are the ethics that I grew up on too.

You know, I learned about welfare from my father. He owned a bakery.

And a woman came in. And I was little.

And she used a welfare stamp.

To pay. And I had never seen one before.

And I said, Dad, that's not real money.

And he gave me the look of death. This little old lady, who was buying stuff. And he pulled me back, after she left. And said, don't ever say that. Ever. Ever again.

That woman is struggling. That's what we do.

That's what a government safety net is for.
For people who need it like her. Don't ever embarrass her again.


And I'm like, sorry.

Then later, I don't know, about six or eight months later, my dad happened to come up front.

And it was a guy who had food stamps. And he paid. And my father was pretty nasty to the guy.

I mean, he was very cold. And I asked him. I'm like, well, that guy gave you the same kind of money.

And he said, that man, I know. That man can work. He decides to live off the rest of us.

That's where it goes wrong. I think all of us kind of grew up with that. I mean, most of us.

NICOLE: Yeah. Yeah. Well, except for young people today. And I think that's where the left is cannibalizing the best of itself.

And I think cannibalizing because it's actually working against its own interests for compassion and social growth.

And -- and, you know, trying to figure out how to help people.

Get through difficult times. I think that how it's cannibalizing itself really exists. And the identity politics.

I know you talk a lot about that. But I experienced it as a philanthropist. Trying to go back to Oakland.

And trying to really work on the issues that matter. And identifying them, with just a straight logical process.

I looked at the issues, around homelessness.

Around drug abuse. Around the education gap. And I realized so much of it has to do with nutrition and health.

And so I went about, trying to fix that, and I will tell you, all of the NGOs, I was approached by. And worked with.

None were interested in real food.

A lot of them were interested in activism, and funneling millions of dollars into these regrant programs.

That don't actually help people.

And make them reliant on these nonprofit dollars.

And so the mechanics of social mobility.

And you can look at it, strictly through the lens of economics. You can look at it through social dynamics. And you come out, realizing that you have to invest in -- in schools, in education, clean water say huge one. But also food.

Kids underperform when they don't eat well. And the fact that they're not addressing this on the left. That there's no NGOs. That are sincerely working on this.

Made me realize, that that entire framework. The culture of that -- that thinking about poor versus wealthy. Or black versus white.

It's all wrong. It's just the wrong way of looking at it.

And then realizing, how many people are profiting off of that. Model of the world. That framework of the world.

It's very predatory. It's predatory.

GLENN: It's grotesque.

NICOLE: Yeah. It's grotesque. It's predatory. It actually feeds into the cycle of racism. And it doesn't work. And things have actually gotten worse, as these NGOs have just gotten away with this kind of bad behavior.

GLENN: So, Nicole. What, what moved you to say, I think I've got to go stand with Donald Trump?

I mean, what?

That had to have shocked you, when you thought that.

What moved you there?

NICOLE: Well, you know, I -- there were so many things that have led to it.

But I will say that, when I left the democratic party, there were threats, kind of lobbed my direction.

But they were -- they kind of seemed like silly threats.

Like, oh, you'll never make it.

We'll -- they will do everything they can to ruin your reputation.

The machine is going to be pointed at you.

And I don't think you realize what we have in this machine. And I was like, oh.

Yeah. I can overcome that.

That's all silliness.

And -- and then, you know, and the then the media.

So first they unleash the media on you.

And I'm like, you know, maybe these things can be disproven.

Lost a lot of respect for the media. But I already had lost quite a bit of respect for them, prior.

And you can kind of get over all that name-calling. And once people have a chance to know, they realize that the media really had so much of you wrong. But then -- you know, then came the attack on our campaign directly.

And it all came from the left. None of it came from the right.

And even though, Republicans have actually out earned or out raised the Democrats. Republicans don't spend the money attacked their opponents, the way the Democrats do.

And this is the really underhanded stuff. That really makes you question election integrity.

In ways that I had actually never questioned election integrity.

I didn't believe that, you know, there was election interference in 2020.

I didn't believe the narrative coming from the right. At the election, was stolen.

And so --

GLENN: Do you now?

NICOLE: I do now. I do now.

GLENN: You do now? What brought you there?

NICOLE: You know, lived experience. They say the two things that really get people to change their minds are grief and God.

And I have to say, there are some really heart breaking moments during this campaign. We gave it everything.

And we followed the black letter law.

Very precisely.

GLENN: Yeah.

NICOLE: And we did -- the amount of heart and soul, and tears. And running around.

I mean, people were just constantly sweaty on our campaign. Because everyone wore six different hats.

And, you know, they would be crossing the country, four times every few days. I mean, it was -- it was so much work. And we did. We succeeded.

What many people thought was impossible.

Which was even just getting on and off the ballots. All 50 ballots. And we did.

The day that we did. That same, just within a few hours. You found out that New York. And they had been suing us.

We had won, seven cases. Seven of these ballot cases, where the Democratic Party came in, or they're running PACs, and sued us.

Attempted to sue us, to get us removed from the ballots. Which I can't believe is even legal. That a political opponent can sue you, can take you off the ballot.

But it's apparently common practice for the Democrats.

GLENN: It's crazy.

NICOLE: And Republicans still do this.

Republicans just don't, because they respect third parties. They respect democracy. They respect the things that make democracy a democracy.

So, anyway, we won all seven. We were seven-zero. We were feeling good. We just did this big press event.

Then New York came along. And the case in New York really opened my eyes, because this was a judge that was not acting on behalf of the American public.

This was a judge acting on behalf of the democratic party.

And there was -- there was just no room, for a legal argument. They seemed to have already been made by the time they arrived.

They treated Bobby with a petty criminal.
I later testified. My experience testifying. So it just got awful. Like I had done something wrong, by trying to run as a third party in this country.

And I think through this process and then realizing the extent of how much they're willing to denigrate the democratic process. In this country.

To win, and how entitled they feel, doing so.

And, you know, Bobby and I are -- our personalities are very much aligned with that California liberal mentality.

And to -- to be treated by friends, colleagues. People that know you. Like this.

Made me realize that that, something was very, very wrong.

And so -- I will say Trump. But, sorry, I don't want to cut you off. Go on.

GLENN: Nicole, you were -- you were in the middle of talking. And you were -- you know, when you said, there's two things that change you, God and grief. And you started going down that road. You know, about the grief you felt.

I remember early on, when I realized, oh, my gosh.

This system is not what I thought it was. I actually felt like I was in mourning trial.

It felt like part of me. My belief died.

And it was really hard to get through.

But if you get through it. It makes you stronger.

NICOLE: Absolutely.

And I will say, that the people that I'm trying to reach out to, today.

Are those that have a lot at stake.

These are moms. Who have their life of their children at stake right now.

Who have seen the system failing them, and their kids.

Trying to dissect a way, parental rights from their children.

And they dislike Donald Trump, because they view Donald Trump as a misogynist. And these are the conversations that I will be investing in, over the next several weeks. In the lead-up to the election. It's really digging into people's perceptions of Donald Trump, as this, you know, really kind of unsavory character.

And I have personally been doing my own fact-checked.

I will be releasing some of that soon.

We have -- I did a series with this really wonderful young 25-year-old journalist, Blake Warren, called TDS Therapy Hour.

Where I read letters that I've received from people. With grave concerns about our alignment with Donald Trump. And we impact all of those concerns very patiently, one after another.

GLENN: Great.

So great.

NICOLE: And I think that's how we do it, again. I know you were a Never Trumper. But I think once you realize how manipulated and programmed we are, by the mainstream media, to see Donald Trump, as this horrific personality. And once you start unpacking truth. You can begin to see truly what they've been up against.

GLENN: So, Nicole. I know you're out of time.

I know you have to run as well. I would love to have you back. I think you're absolutely fascinating.

And you are a very important voice to speak to women, who do have that feeling.

And are absolutely convinced to their core, and I would love to have you back.

Nicole, thank you so much.

NICOLE: Thank you. Have a good one.

GLENN: Backtothepeople.net. Backtothepeople.net. Nicole Shanahan.