The last two years under Biden’s border policies have seen record numbers of migrants. The highest annual record was 2.2 million last year. The 2023 fiscal year just ended, and we’ve already had 2 million encounters (and those are just the ones we know about). The message to migrants from the Biden administration seems to be, “If you come here illegally, you’ll be rewarded. If you do it the right way, you’re out of luck.” Fifteen years ago, a Christian family from Germany sought asylum in the United States so that they could freely homeschool their children without fear of fines or jail time. They peacefully and lawfully built a life in America. Two of their children were born here. Another two married U.S. citizens. They have been coordinating with our federal government ever since they set foot in America, but they were recently told by ICE to pack their bags. It’s been 10 years since Glenn Beck last interviewed this family, and they return to Mercury Studios in a desperate plea to avoid persecution and jail time in Germany for their beliefs. Why is the Biden administration targeting THEM while turning a blind eye to over 2 MILLION illegal aliens at the southern border? The family claim they were given no answers for why they’re facing deportation now. ICE did provide Glenn TV with a statement to try to explain the rationale, but Romeike lawyer Kevin Boden calls it “baloney! What’s changed in the last 10 years?” Glenn asks Uwe Romeike, “If you can’t stay here, and you aren’t welcome in Germany, where are you going to go?” “I don’t know. God will have to open us another door.”
Will Trump’s 10-point plan to DISMANTLE the Deep State work?
Donald Trump has released a 10-point plan to dismantle the Deep State during his second presidential term and Glenn can’t see how anyone can be against it. Glenn reviews the plan and how it should unite America. Glenn and Stu also discuss some possible moves Trump should make to troll the media and the Left …
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GLENN: Let me go to Trump, announcing his ten-step plan to dismantle the Deep State. Listen to this. If you haven't heard it, you will love this.
DONALD: Here's my plan to dismantle the Deep State and reclaim our democracy from Washington corruption, once and for all. And corruption it is. First, I will immediately reissue my 2020 executive order restoring the president's authority to remove rogue bureaucrats. And I will wield that power very aggressively. Second, we will clean out all the corrupt actors in our national security and intelligence apparatus. And there are plenty of them.
The departments and agencies, that have been weaponized will be completely overhauled, so that faceless bureaucrats will never again be able to target and persecute conservatives, Christians, or the left's political enemies, which they're doing now at a level that nobody can believe even possible.
Third, we will totally reform FISA courts, which are so corrupt, that the judges seemingly do not care whether they are lied to in warrant applications. So many judges have seen so many applications, that they know were wrong, or at least they must have known. They do nothing about it. They're lied to.
Fourth, to expose the hoaxes and abuses of power, that have been tearing our country apart. We will establish a truth and reconciliation commission, to declassify and publish all documents on Deep State spying, censorship, and corruption. And there are plenty of them.
Fifth, we will launch a major crackdown government leakers who collude with the fake news to deliberately weave false narratives and to subvert our government and our democracy.
When possible, we will press criminal charges.
Sixth, we will make every inspector general's office independent and physically separated from the departments they oversee, so that they do not become the protectors of the Deep State.
Seventh, I will ask Congress to establish an independent auditing system to continually monitor our intelligence agencies, to ensure, they are not spying on our citizens, or running disinformation campaigns against the American people. Or that they're not spying on someone's campaign, like they spied on my campaign.
Eighth, we will continue the effort, launched by the Trump administration, to move parts of the sprawling federal bureaucracy, to new locations, outside the Washington swamp.
Just as I moved the Bureau of Land Management to Colorado, as many as 100 thousand government positions, could be moved out. And I mean, immediately, of Washington, to places filled with patriots, who love America. And they really do love America.
Ninth, I will work to ban federal bureaucrats from taking jobs, at the companies they deal with.
That they regulate. So they deal with these companies. Or they regulate these companies. Then they want to take jobs from these companies.
Doesn't work that way. Such a public display, cannot go on. And it's taking place all the time, like with Big Pharma. Finally, I will push a constitutional amendment, to oppose term limits on members of Congress. This is how I will shatter the Deep State, and restore a government that is controlled by the people and for the people. Thank you very much.
GLENN: I just -- now, tell me, what is -- what is possibly objectionable about that? Everybody wants term limits. And he's going for a constitutional amendment.
Everybody wants it, except for the people in Congress. He wants to ban the bureaucrats, from going into the businesses that they regulate after they leave government.
That's absolutely fantastic. That stops all of this graft and all of this corruption. But Democrats have been asking for that, for forever.
Moving government, breaking it up, and moving it to different parts of the country. I think that's smart just for Homeland Security. I just hope they don't poison the places where they're moving them to.
Independent monitoring of the intelligence agency. So they're not spying on Americans.
How could you possibly, as a Democrat, how could you possibly be against that?
They're not spying on us. And there's no disinformation campaigns, which we know happened. The inspector general's office of each thing that they monitor, being independent from those -- from those institutions.
So if I am monitoring, and I'm the inspector general, of the Pentagon, I'm not part of the Pentagon. So I can't be shut down. That is fantastic.
How could you be possibly against that.
This one is a little -- we have to look at the wording. Government leakers. He will fire any government leakers, and prosecute where possible. If they are trying to subvert the government or working in collusion, to give false narratives to the press. Okay?
I think I'm for that one. But I want to make sure that leakers and whistle-blowers are protected.
The FISA courts, Stu. How could you possibly be against that, if you're a Democrat?
And the Justice Department. Clean up the Justice Department. What was the other one? Oh, going for the truth and reconciliation.
That's a document dump. Who is against document dumps? I would like to know exactly what the truth is on all of these things.
I want to know. I think this is uniting. Now, the press will make this into a horrible dictatorial stuff. But it's not. Practice have if -- if the Biden administration would have done this, I would have been for all of these.
Now, what is the problem with them, Stu?
STU: Yeah. I mean, I think if you go through all those proposals, probably the worst thing you can say about them, is that several of them are sort of just not particularly interesting to the average person. Like, I think a lot of people don't even know what a FISA court is. Like, when you're talking about it from that perspective, they might be good policies. But they're not going to be exciting.
And they range from that, to the most popular proposals in our public discourse. Immure talking about things like term limits.
Which you talk about 80 percent popularity, around a proposal like that.
And the only thing stopping it is Congress. They've been, you know, doing this forever. Because they're protecting their own gigs.
Now, I will say, I am going to be very, very entertained when part of this proposal, he floats to taunt the media, a third presidential term. That's going to be fun.
And I can't wait until he does it. Because you know he will do it.
If senators get 12 years, why wouldn't a president. Your favorite president. Why wouldn't he get 12 years?
That's coming.
GLENN: I want him to float the idea of packing the court. I want him to do that, just so badly. Because everybody would be like, that's -- you can't do -- that's ridiculous.
He's going to control the court forever that way. That's unconstitutional. I would love him to just float it for about a week. And then say, huh. Thank you for all of those sound bites. We will use them against you, if you ever get in power and try for pack the court. Because you clearly know why this is wrong.
STU: Yeah. Honestly, I would -- I'm sorry -- I love that approach.
I think he comes out. He says, I'm going to start studying those proposals made by the left, during the last couple of years, as some of them sound interesting. Let them all get excited.
Then come back. Pull the rug out from underneath it. Then propose something that locks it at nine, forever.
Seriously. This is ridiculous. Let's just set it at 9:00. And then be done with it.
This shouldn't be something that is even talked about. It is a ridiculous manipulation of power.
We've seen the left try to do it hundred times. Let's get rid of that one forever.
You are going to have it, go through a constitutional process. Check that one in there too.
GLENN: So friends of mine sent me a text message, between two friends, that just came in.
And I really -- this -- this is mental illness. It really is mental illness. Listen to -- listen to this exchange via text. Okay?
Did you all vote Republican?
Just trying to figure out who to trust.
We voted both ways. We're Libertarians.
Okay. This is the response.
We voted both ways, we're Libertarians.
Sorry. If you feel our choices in this election is needed to end the friendship.
I feel like we've trusted one another throughout the years. Unfortunately, no one is perfect, in either way that you choose.
I hope you can still feel comfortable, reaching out to us. If you ever need anything.
And still be friends.
Now, this is a long-term friendship.
Men are hurting us!
They're laughing gleefully at our pain.
If you voted Republican, that's all because you're okay with that.
Men are hurting us. Could you be more specific? Men are hurting us. Could you also show us where the men are that are laughing in your face? They are holding up signs saying women are property. Could you help me out with that one. Could you show me a picture of those signs?
STU: That one, I did see a real estate listing, that did list women as property. So that is happening.
GLENN: Okay. So it's a real decision --
STU: Online.
GLENN: Okay. All right.
Are your daughters property? Well, they are now.
STU: Huh.
GLENN: What?
Now, this person responds in a way that I wouldn't have. I would have saved this one for later. Because I have too many questions on what she just said. She said, are you all going to sell the Tesla now? Isn't that supporting Musk and the Republican Party. Then the friend responded. I saw your Ted Cruz sign.
He wants my child dead.
STU: That was a weird part of his campaign. The whole, I want your child dead, vote for me, instead of Allred chanting.
But it worked. He won.
GLENN: Right. And then she responded the Tesla thing. No. We bought it used. And there's no way to escape capitalism right now.
But you chose this. You chose to make women property.
Well, I'm sure I'm sorry that you feel like you have to you be friend us. There were good things on both sides. If you hate us, then you really never knew us.
I hope you get everything you voted for.
I hope it all affects you personally.
Me too, actually.
I hope it affects you too, because it will be good.
You hate me and my child if you voted for people who openly called for our deaths. Who called for your deaths?
Please, give me. Before you break up a long-term friendship, can you please just give me the original source, of people calling for your deaths.
Now, I'm sure there are people online, that have said, really crazy things.
Because honestly, let's go up about four paragraphs, and what you just sent. You say really crazy things, too.
So let's just deal with who said that, when it was said, what the context was. Because I've never heard that before. So now, we all know. I already knew, but I hope you were able to see what was happening because you're not stupid.
Please, forget we exist.
I beg you not to talk to anyone about my son, who is disabled.
We're first on the chopping block.
Now, apparently, the son is trans, and disabled. Well, you know what, I think there are rules at Auschwitz. Yeah. He would be first. Oh, we don't live in Nazi Germany, do we?
Please forget we exist, and don't turn us in. Wow. You are 100 percent, I guess we voted wrong. Sarcasm in the face of my pain?
What pain? What pain?
Your pain is being caused because you believe lies. If you actually think that Donald Trump wants your trans handicapped child dead, you have no idea. You are so far out of reality.
I hope you have a lovely day. God bless you and your family. Typically.
I'm kidding. Please don't hurt us. We don't exist. You don't know us.
You're so compassionate with your name-calling, and if you believe that, stop texting us. What name did I call you
I will stop. But I didn't call you any names. I did not. I truly hope that you would see the light, because the Cruz sign didn't come back. I thought you would care that women are dying.
Again, give me a fact. Show me an original source.
Where are women dying?
We are now literally property of men.
You say literally, show me the source on that.
My mistake.
You said we were stupid with, for who we voted for.
No. I said you were not stupid. Which means you did it with purpose.
Oh, so I'm not stupid. I'm just evil, voting knowingly for your child to be killed?
May your daughters bleed out in the hospital parking lot now. I hope you have the good sense to be lesbians or childless cat ladies.
Again, as I said, you're 100 percent right. Maybe four more years, we can be friends. L-O-L.
Women are property now.
What the hell is wrong with people?
Stock market SKYROCKETS after Trump’s win, but will tariffs keep it rising?
The U.S. stock market had incredible gains after Donald Trump was declared the president-elect. Is this as good of a sign as it looks for small and medium-sized businesses? Financial expert Carol Roth joins Glenn to explain. She also gives her take on whether Trump can stop the World Economic Forum’s plans for transforming the West and why she isn’t confident that Trump’s tariff plan could replace the Income Tax. But she has another solution that might be better …
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GLENN: Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We're glad you're here. So it's very exciting. I'm just writing my dear Santa Trump list. Take care of the border justice reform. Elon cuts.
MAHA tax cuts. I'll take a 15 percent corporate. But can we start with zero with tariffs?
Deep cuts in regulations. The Department of Ed, close it down.
Pentagon.
Stop the madness. That's all I've got so far.
But I'm going to -- it's going to be a long list. I will send this to Trump.
Do you have any suggestions? I would love to hear it.
One of the things I know he is going to do is -- is probably give, you know, the -- a great gift to anybody who has Bitcoin. Or anybody who is in the Bitcoin industry.
Because I -- he has said, he's against the Fed coin and he in his administration, will stop that from ever becoming a reality. I hope he can pull that one off.
But gold is up, still. It's down, what? Thirty dollars from Election Day.
But it's still doing well. I think 2700. Just coming off of all-time high. Yesterday, all-time high for Bitcoin. That's come down just a little bit.
But the economy could roar. And we have Carol Roth with us. Now.
Hi, Carol.
CAROL: Hi, Glenn. We promised people that we would get together, and would have something good to talk about at some point in time. So we manifested this discussion. And we have optimism.
And I think actually my most exciting point is the optimism. It could be four and a half years, since we've had real optimism in this country, from the time of the COVID mess through the Biden/Harris administration.
And sentiment is such a self-fulfilling prophecy, you know, particularly for the economy, but in all aspects of life. So the fact that it at that we have this huge sense of relief, has lifted off our shoulders -- not to say that there is an easy road ahead, but just to have the optimism, that, yes. We can go out and do this. Such a blessed, blessed day and week.
GLENN: Amen, on that.
So the stock market. You sent me, oh, something maybe 6 o'clock on Tuesday night. And you said, Glenn, stock market is up 200 points. That bodes well for Trump. And then it just kept going up.
You know, the after hours stock market just kept going up all throughout the night.
And it's doing well. They didn't usually they will bake in, what they think is coming.
They really thought a Kamala administration was coming. Didn't they?
CAROL: No. They actually had baked in a Trump win. So that's why this was so staggering.
I think what they didn't have baked in, is what a resounding mandate that he would have. That the Senate, the fact that he would win the popular vote. Obviously, we're still waiting.
Hopefully, the House. The fact that this is the country saying, we want this mandate.
And CNBC said this morning, that we are on track for the best week in the stock market in a year.
And what is most exciting about what's happened in the market is that it has been a very broad race.
You know, we've been through a time over the past several of years, where just a handful of tech companies, yeah, they're the ones that have been lifting the market.
The Russell 2000, which is the smaller cap, publicly traded companies. They were up 5 percent the day after the election. 5 percent in one day. Which means small companies and medium-sized companies think they will get access to capital, and have the optimism to grow their business.
And we know we need that broad-based growth. Not just a handful of companies. So that is one of my really big takeaways.
GLENN: I mean, if I were somebody that wanted to start my own business, I would be planning on it right now.
I mean, I -- I -- I think America has a chance to have another golden era here.
And, you know, maybe they put a stop to it, in four years.
But if it is -- if he can turn this around, quickly.
And actually make the kinds of moves that he's talking about.
Massive fundamental change in the -- just the garbage of the bureaucracy.
That could -- that could affect us for a very long time.
And you could also see with that kind of success, 12 years.
Not just him. But then two -- two terms of J.D. Vance.
CAROL: Absolutely.
And I think for small businesses, in particular, the people who are looking to start them, or grow an existing business. There were three key areas, that the Biden/Harris administration really tamped down on that, sort of optimism from the back bone of the economy.
The first one being the ability to work for flexibly.
You know, the Trump administration had put this very pro-independent contractor. Pro gig work framework in place.
And they reversed that in its entirety. So the fact that that goes away, is huge.
From a regulatory standpoint. 1.7 trillion dollars in regulatory burden, is the estimate of the Biden/Harris administration. On small business loan.
Small businesses don't have time for this.
And they don't have the staff or the money for this.
So on the fact that we know, that we will get more of that regulation cleaned out, is absolutely huge.
And then the tax uncertainty. You know, the tax cuts and jobs act is set to expire next year in large part.
And the fact that we know Trump is going to be, you know, more open, to, you know, extending some of those cuts.
And maybe even further cutting and hopefully, helping small businesses have that certainty. Because, again, you can't make those investments if you're not sure what will happen.
Plus, we know we will not get the crazy capital gains taxes. And wealth taxes. And all the other things that are proposed. So this is really a three-legged stool. That will help to unleash growth.
And it is such a blessing.
GLENN: So let's go over some of the things that he has to do.
He obviously has to fix the border.
And deport people. I can't take it anymore. Just deportation in US history. Well, I never -- I didn't even know that the largest deportation happened under Bill Clinton.
With 11 million people deported from our country.
11 million.
Nobody said anything about that. Our population is bigger. And what is he talking about?
Maybe ten to 15 million?
Maybe 20!
The -- this is ridiculous, that everybody is freaking out. When Bill Clinton was the guy who did it the first time.
And it didn't hurt anything.
CAROL: Yeah. I mean, we've had a mass invasion.
And while something like mass deportation may sound just like just a security policy or social policy.
It's obviously very much an economic policy. The estimate from Fare, just in 2023 alone -- forget about this year -- was $150 billion that was spent on these illegals.
And that doesn't include things like what it does to the demoralization, of communities. What it does to keep wages suppressed.
And people on the sidelines.
Back in 2022.
GLENN: And services.
CAROL: Yeah. The 2022 -- the number of illegals in the workforce was 8.3 million. You could imagine that that's up at least 50 percent, if not more.
So those are jobs that are having artificially suppressed wages and being taken away and demoralizing, you know, working age individuals. Particularly men, from getting into the workforce.
So this is a huge pharmaceutical issue for us.
And whatever the cost is, to get them out of the country, will be worth. Because the return on investment for doing that, in all facets will far exceed it.
It absolutely has to be the first thing that he does.
GLENN: We know that he's also going to.
One of the first things he's going to do on the first day is restore our energy policy. Drill, baby, drill. And open all of that stuff up again, thank God.
The -- the ESG -- I just got a note from somebody that said be with one investment bank is advising ESG fund managers to keep their lawyers very close.
Anti-trust risk remains high for asset managers. And ESG. There haven't been any cases yet.
Thus, there's no legal precedent. Further, legal risks regarding fiduciary duty, in order to stay relevant, is states enforce antistate ESG laws.
ESG, do you see the -- the stake going through its heart?
CAROL: I mean, we certainly hope so.
The challenge with something like ESG. They always repackage it.
And it always comes back to life to something else.
It's like the vampire who shape shifts into something different.
So my guess is, that ESG goes away, and then they come back, and they can come up with something else. And now it has a new name.
So it's a bit of a whack-a-mole. We will have to continue to be on it. But I absolutely think, there is going to be -- there's already a huge push to get away from it.
In part, because everybody has seen these promises. Oh, ESG will do wonderful things for investments.
That hasn't materialized. And it really has been this green washing.
I feel like, it's already on that trend.
It could be the final nail in the vampire's coffin, until he rises again.
GLENN: So the cop 25 is coming up.
And the last time he attended. I don't know if he attended. He might have just said a note, we're out. Of the Paris accords. And everything else.
That too, is going to shake the global community.
And -- and really put -- I mean, it could take it down.
If he's really strong on this World Economic Forum garbage that has been shoveled. If he's really strong on that, he could put the stake in its heart.
CAROL: You get the right government efficiency commission, and we should be out of everything. We should stop funding the WEF. We should stop funding the UN.
We should stop funding all of this insanity.
And take that money and make that available to pay down our debt. To shrink our deficits. And to stop with these NGOs who are getting massive funding from us, and then coming in and trying to ruin our lives. When you add to your list, to Trump Santa, please include getting rid of all of the funding to these ridiculous organizations.
GLENN: Yeah. Well, I think that goes under the border thing.
Because that's where we've really enriched these NGOs here in the country.
I mean, some of them should go to jail.
They brought these people in, over the border.
With our tax money. They flew them around the country.
With our tax money.
I mean, I think there should be at least an investigation on that.
CAROL: I'm with you. I second you on that one.
GLENN: When it comes to taxes. What do you think about the idea.
You would need to actually do both of them together.
I'm not a tariff guy.
But if your goal is to rebuild America, and to rebuild our manufacturing. And bring money back on to shore.
And jobs back on to shore.
If you cut. Like he was talking about, no it can tax.
If you cut the income tax. And reimpose stiff tariffs, what happens?
CAROL: So I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings in math here. But math really doesn't work out. Because you have to remember, 70 percent of our economy is service-based.
Even if you boost up manufacturing on a big level, the amount that it would take to replace what we have, in terms of an income tax, it just today is not mathematically possible.
We also have the scenario where we're trying to make sure that the GDP increases.
And that our revenue stays, you know, pretty stable, at the same time. That we're trying to get rid of the additional spending.
And that is going to be a very delicate dance. So I think this is something that needs to be -- should be managed strategically.
GLENN: But could you come up with a flat tax, or a 15 percent tax?
That just makes the economy roar.
CAROL: Sure. Yeah. I absolutely do think that you could do that. And something that is simple, also takes away a lot of the administration, and the burden, that comes along with that. That makes, you know -- just takes away productive time from people.
Spending it on paperwork. Instead of spending it on the economy.
So I do think, there could be something that is streamlined. But, again, the tax code is so insane, that I would imagine that would take some time.
But would completely welcome it. And there are so many entrepreneurial people, who are around Trump, this time around.
You know, the Elon Musk's and the Viveks and what not.
I think this is the time, there's an opportunity to actually get something like this done. And we need that, Glenn. We need to have the growth. Because if we don't have the massive growth, we're not going to be able to shrink the government.
We're not going to be able to shrink massive inflation. So that's the dance that we have.
How Charlie Kirk BEAT THE LEFT at its own election games
Much of the credit for Donald Trump’s 2024 presidential victory should go to Turning Point USA founder and CEO @RealCharlieKirk, Glenn says. The Left has dominated get-out-the-vote efforts for years. But in 2024, Charlie Kirk was able to beat them at their own game. Charlie joins Glenn to explain his winning strategy and why he believes Trump would have lost states like Wisconsin if they hadn’t targeted new voters so intensely. Glenn and Charlie also discuss how “this was the election of the podcast.”
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GLENN: All right. The first person we have to thank, or the first thing that we have to thank is God.
God worked miracles in this country, this last week.
And we would be remiss and really poor children, if we didn't recognize his hand in this election.
It is incredible, what has happened.
I told you before, I've -- I can find a million ways, this thing flies apart. But there's only one way, we hold it together.
And that's God.
And I think we've all witnessed that. Now, on the human level, one of the guys who I don't think has gotten enough credit yet, but will get all the credit he deserves.
Is Charlie Kirk.
Charlie started something called Turning Point USA. I know you know of it. To have
He is the host and founder of -- the founder and CEO of turning point. Also, the host of the Charlie Kirk show.
But this guy, I don't know what we would have done without you, Charlie.
I mean, you really turned the vote out. Thank you.
CHARLIE: Well, Glenn, first of all, you said it correctly. Glory be to God. We were a couple millimeters to the entire country going to bedlam. You so perfectly said, throughout the entire campaign, I have this -- the spirit of paranoia, are we really going to do this? Are they going to come up another sneak attack? Are they going to do another COVID? And every corner and every turn. So glory be to God. God is not done with this land.
GLENN: That's true.
CHARLIE: And second, I wish I could take credit for this. But it's American people. And I know it sounds cliche and I know it sounds generic. But the American people stood the most intense propaganda political hurricane of American history. There's never been anything like it. It was worse than 2020. It was worse than 2016. Calling us Nazis and fascists. And, you know, saying that Donald Trump was going to -- you know, put people in camps and all that.
The American people weighed their options, despite Kamala Harris spending Donald Trump three to one, and made the right choice.
Look, we played a small role. And we did it in two ways. We said, on this election, we want to try to lose by less with younger voters.
And then we will create the most sophisticated, low propensity, get out the vote, turnout machine in -- in modern political history for the right.
And here was our series of cases.
First, on the get out the vote.
Which is that we believed that there were millions of people that were Trump supporters. That were not Trump voters. The people that would say, yay, Trump! And they would be with them.
But they weren't putting a ballot in the box.
They weren't casting a vote.
We tested the theory of the case.
When I started to go to Trump rallies. And I would ask people, and I would take a lot of selfies with people who are super nice and they love the country. And one out of 30 people, I would say, hey. Are you ready for the vote?
And they would say, oh, yeah. I think so.
I would get this kind of, you know, half answer.
And so I went back to my team. I said, guys, I think there's a lot more in this reservoir than we realize.
And so we compared with the data. With the Trump campaign. Which we were allowed to do, thanks to an FEC ruling back in the spring.
And we said, guys, let's beat the left at their own it became.
Let's engage in early voting. Even though it's a flawed system, in a way that's never been done before.
Because, again, there's actually more days to get low likely voters to go vote. If you have 30 days, you can then get someone who is not as easy to persuade the vote, because then you can get five or six touches on them.
We hired well over 1,000 full-time people into the greatest ground force that's ever done.
We raised tens of millions of dollars. Praise God from our donors. And we pitched them on this thing, saying, hey. The road to the White House will be going through these states.
We know that. We will be the first registered voters build relationships and communities. And then drive a turnout machine over a 30-day period to get Donald Trump across the finished line.
And the states we primarily focused on was Arizona and Wisconsin.
We spent work of course in Pennsylvania, in Georgia, but in really, Arizona, Wisconsin.
And in Wisconsin, I can tell you, that if it wasn't for our effort. Donald Trump would have fallen short.
We chased in excess of over 70,000 low propensity voters in Wisconsin. Donald Trump won by 28,000 votes.
Here in Arizona, as we are speaking, we still have 850,000 votes still to count. We realize it could take at least 90 days to count our ballots here. It's a joke. It's really something else.
GLENN: I know it is. I know it is.
CHARLIE: But by St. Patrick's, we'll find out who won that race in Arizona.
But Kari Lake is down 44,000 votes here in Arizona, and she might -- she might fall 10,000 votes short, or win by ten thousand votes.
But thanks to our effort and the team, we closed an eight-point polling gap for Kari Lake.
And so, look, basically what we did, we took this movement that Donald Trump created, that Donald Trump led, and we added machinery to the movement.
And we were able to successfully turn Trump supporters into Trump voters.
GLENN: You know, Charlie, I've been -- you know, obviously looking at this, forever.
And we've never had a G.O.P. that could get out of its own way.
We've never had one that was competent.
We never had a plan other than, hey. We're just better.
And we -- we lost it. Every time. Because we were either stupid. Or we just couldn't get out of our own way. And get people to the polls.
This time around, I felt real confidence, that the G.O.P. had these issues covered, at the polling places.
That it was going to be secure. That if it wasn't, they had the attorneys, and they had he have been of else out there.
Just like the Democrats do, and we were going to catch the bad guys, if the bad guys showed up.
So we had that confidence. And we also had confidence because of what we were doing. That we were going after the -- the low propensity voter.
That we -- you know, I've said for years. Hey, somebody should get a bus, like they do.
And put people on a bus, and take them to the polls.
Somebody should do this.
CHARLIE: Oh, we did that.
GLENN: I know you did. I know you did. And that made all the difference in the world.
CHARLIE: Well, thank you, Glenn. And let me say one thing. Which, again, our theory of the case was that okay. The RNC would limit some of the shenanigans. Which, by the way, we didn't completely eliminate. Without that, we would have Senator Mike Lee from Wisconsin.
But one of the ways to offset the shenanigans and the tomfoolery, is you outnumber there.
And so you have so many ballots in the volume of the system. That, you know, their midnight drops in Milwaukee are just not going to be sufficient. And it turns out, that that was a correct way of looking at it. And I want to say, one other thing, though. This was very, very difficult work, and your team deserves enormous credit.
Not just the full-time staff. You'll love this, Glenn.
We do this thing called commit 100.
Where we say, hey, if you're across the country. And you're tired of listening to talk radio and watching TV and seeing your country fall apart.
If you will be able to fly yourself to Arizona, we'll put you up in a hotel room for a week or two.
And we will give you the mobile technology to go chase ballots. We have over 2,000 people from across the country, that were working neighborhoods in Arizona to go chase ballots.
2,000 volunteers from across the country. On top of, in Arizona, our 600 full-time people, on the ground
So we blanketed the state. And Arizona, again, it's my passion.
It's that that is performing of the seven battleground states, and we're still counting votes.
It's the greatest swing of any battleground states in 2020.
And it should give your audience a lot of renewed confidence.
Is that we are catching up to how the left has gamified our elections.
They turn it into a game. Who can get the most amount of pieces of paper in the box? And we were -- we're still dealing in an antiquated mindset, where we believe that elections were just about worldview and values and issues. Back in, like, 2004.
The left, they changed all the rules. And that made them permanent in COVID. And between 2022 and especially in 2024, we learned the rules. We caught up. And then we beat them at their own with game. And that is what is so promising and encouraging. That we were able to add this machinery, to a once in a generation movement. And I will add one other thing. Is that some people were saying, it was a landslide.
It was. However, Glenn, we're talking about Donald Trump. The final canvases will come out. He won Wisconsin by 30,000 votes.
Pennsylvania, one point. Michigan, point and a half.
Without the turnout operation, without the voter integrity operation, the Trump campaign, and the RNC, you could make an argument -- and also, the second layer is that we did 25 points better with younger voters.
We won the youth vote in Michigan. We almost won -- yeah. Go ahead.
GLENN: What do you attribute that to, other than, you know, your work. And the work of others?
Do me a favor do you -- how much do you put into Elon Musk, RFK, Joe Rogan? Theo Von? Yeah.
CHARLIE: Yeah. First of all, Elon Musk is an American hero. And that guy is the best of America, who decided to just put everything on the line, for his country.
And I can't say enough good things about him. And, by the way, President Trump deserves so much credit for doing this long form podcast. This was the year -- this was the election of the podcast. And Democrats were unbelievable.
GLENN: This is the end of the -- I said this the week before he went on Joe Rogan. I said, you watch. He'll go on Joe Rogan. 100 million people. And it will be the end of the mainstream ahead.
This will -- this will show everybody for 2028, there's no reason to do a debate on ABC.
There's no reason to do an interview with CBS.
Why? Why would you do that?
Everything changed, this time.
CHARLIE: That's exactly right.
And I attribute a lot to that. And in addition, Donald Trump was able to -- he was able to sit for three hours, with no notes and go deep on the issues and have a total command of the subjects.
GLENN: I know. I know.
CHARLIE: Here is the new standard though, and Democrats have to know this.
You will never win another presidential election, if you nominate another candidate who is unable to do long form podcasting.
People won't trust you. End of story. And if you do not have a candidate, who can go deep and that can think on their feet and have memory recall and be personable and charming and affable, the American people will reject that. Long gone are the days of 7-minute, 60-minute interviews, right?
Or, you know, ten-minute Meet The Press, where you have five questions, and they're prepared.
Now, you have to earn the vote. Because people are going to listen to you for three hours and see your tone and inflection. And whether you mean it.
And so Donald Trump excelled in that. And Joe Rogan deserves such credit for having the platform, and to his credit as well, he was very fair. He wanted to broker a fair deal where Kamala was invited and Donald Trump. The other thing I will say though.
And I think you will appreciate this, Glenn. With younger voters.
Is that there was that pent-up rebellion energy, amongst young Gen Zers for how they were treated during COVID.
During COVID, they had their proms cancelled. Their graduation. Summer classes. A lot of their friends committed suicide.
They were part of this generation that was hyper propagandized by the left wing woke stuff during the summer of Floyd.
And they realized that it was lies. And that it was misrepresentations, and then they get their news from podcasting. And podcasting comes out, talking about how great Donald Trump was and how awful Kamala was, because that was the right framing. And the generation started to tilt right.
And so -- what was so remarkable, is that Democrats, they didn't see this coming.
They were so confident.
They were so cocky. That younger voters were going to continue to support them.
Again, you could make the argument.
If it was for the mass movement of younger voters in some of these states.
Donald Trump might not have won. And, again, the Sunbelt was a separate story.
We did very well in the Sunbelt, 4 or 5-point margins.
But the Rest Belt was one and a half, 1-point margins. We're talking about 30,000 votes here. So all of these things add up, in a very significant way.
And it also should give your audience such hope.
There's almost no documented case of a generation that becomes more liberal, as they get older.
So the fact that this generation is the most conservative voting generation since 1988. That means that the future is only going to get redder.
It's only going to become more conservative, as they own property and get married and have children.
So our starting point is the best starting point for our political movement since Ronald Reagan.
And credit to Donald Trump. And please, sorry.
GLENN: And I think that it is only going to grow from here, if Donald Trump can tick off the things that are on his list to do.
GLENN: So, Charlie, we were talking about what -- you know, why Trump won. Why did Kamala lose?
CHARLIE: Well, that's interesting. And, again, I will say, the narrative should be that Trump won more than she lost. However, she was unable to do the basic, as we said, long form podcasting. She misread the room. And I think the interesting story that should be explored is, where did all the money go? The most funded campaign in history. A billion dollars.
Now, $20 million in debt.
And I have a personal axe to grind here.
Because, you know, we were one of the groups that the media was setting up to fail. Okay? Let's just be honest. There were so many articles written in the last couple of months. Trump team takes big risk outsourcing GOTV to Turning Point and Elon Musk.
You probably saw the stories, right, Glenn? It was every major outlet.
GLENN: Oh, yeah, I did.
CHARLIE: And they were setting us up to fail, and we would get on the phones with these reporters. And we would say, hey, we're doing real things.
Maybe you guys should be more nuanced. And they said, well, the Kamala team has the most sophisticated get out vote operation ever, and their ground game. And they're knocking on tens of millions of doors, and we would tell them. And this was true. I said, never conflate results and activity.
The Kamala team was doing a lot of activity. But they weren't producing results. So the Kamala ground game was completely overrated.
Somebody made a lot of money, and misled a lot of people, and a lot of Democratic donors.
So let's just be honest on the issues. Let's just also on the issues though.
Is that Kamala Harris and the entire regime, they were trying to continue to occupy a country that they resent.
And that, as a basic operating formula, is almost an impossible way to hold on to political power.
You can't continue to govern a country when you disdain the people that you are pathed to oversee.
And, I mean, we can go one example to the other. I'm sure you cover this on your show.
But Star County, Texas. Which has not voted Republican. In over 100 years.
The most Hispanic county in America, Donald Trump won.
I mean, there was this multi-racial reckoning against the Democrat Party.
Young, old, black, Hispanic.
And finally, Kamala Harris and her entire team, they -- they -- they did everything they possibly could to not defend their own positions. But try to make it a referendum on Donald Trump.
Now, Donald Trump refuted quite a gift.
He received quite a gift. Because for the first time since Grover Cleveland, he was able to embrace the advantages of being an incumbent and the advantages of being a challenger.
So think about it. You can say, how great my record was. And how terrible the person currently in office is. If you think about that analytically, that's almost an impossible. It's impossible to beat that. Because you could be incredibly -- you could be very, very critical. So that wins you points. People like that in politics. At the same time, you can also have a sterling record to run on. So it's not just hypothetical. So Donald Trump leaned into the best of all circumstances. Being a challenger and also an incumbent. And, yeah. And also, Kamala Harris didn't have a primary. That's another thing that I said.
Don't -- when I try to implement a candidate without a primary, don't assume that all the Democrats are going to support you. I have many other thoughts on this.
GLENN: Well, I've got just about 30 seconds here, before a break. So good time to just take a breath. I do want to go back to that.
But I -- I also want to go back to Hispanics.
Because they have alienated themselves with everybody. Now, they're talking about how Hispanics are anti-black. And I've heard black are anti-Hispanics. I mean, they're just -- they're at war with themselves.
I don't know how they come back from this. But, you know, vampires, you always think are dead. But they come back.
3 reasons Glenn is "REALLY HOPEFUL" about Trump's second term
After winning the 2024 election, Donald Trump declared that he will usher in a "new golden era of America." Glenn explains 3 reasons why he is "really hopeful" about Trump's second term: With Elon Musk's help, "we actually have a chance of cutting our budget"; With a strong America, the whole West can escape the global elites' plans; and with JD Vance and his "American miracle" backstory, America can remember who we really are.
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GLENN: I will tell you, that I -- I find one of the most hopeful things, you know, when Donald Trump said, we're going to enter a new golden era of America, I believed him. He -- he could have said that in 2020, and I wouldn't have believed him, as much as I believe him now.
And that's because, we have -- we have a team of people, that are not just all politicians, cut exactly the same way, et cetera, et cetera.
And usually, you want people who are thinking like Donald Trump.
But in this particular case, to be able to bring in somebody like Elon Musk, that's one of the most hopeful things for our country, I've heard maybe in my lifetime.
Because I know that guy can cut. I know that guy will find the waste, in our government.
And he's not a government guy.
He's just a businessman. And he's going to look and go, we don't need any of those people.
Redundant. Redundant. Redundant.
Get rid of it.
We actually have a chance of cutting our budget. And being reasonable.
And I also that know Donald Trump is going to cut regulation.
I mean, he cut more regulation his first term than any other president. But they added so much regulation.
He will have to cut more of it now. And he will.
I mean, to get this economy roaring again, I think he's going to cut red tape like nobody's business.
And we could have a true rebirth of freedom, and the rebirth of the American dream. And I find that really hopeful.
I'm tired of thinking that my kids will be struggling. And they will be eating, you know, paper dolls, or whatever they have to eat.
Because even cannibalism. There's no more food left so they have to eat paper dolls.
I mean, I don't know what is coming. But I'm tired of thinking that.
I'm really hopeful today. I'm glad to hear Stu just chime on that, and go, yeah. I'm with you, Glenn.
STU: You know, Glenn, I am -- I am hopeful.
But I -- there's another full I am, which is spiteful. And I'm trying my best not to embrace that part of my inner -- inner workings today. But you're right.
I think it is -- look, there's a lot of good that could be done. We talked a little about what was unfortunately a missed opportunity maybe of 2022 last night. Where if things had gone a little bit better in 2022, we didn't even need a red wave, but just a little better of an election. You could be looking at a filibuster-proof majority, with Donald Trump going in. And that would have maybe been better.
Remember, we still have the House. We have to get over the hump.
I think that will be a real challenge over the next couple of weeks.
GLENN: And honestly, the Senate.
We've got to get. If Cornyn becomes the new McConnell, it's a nightmare. It's a nightmare.
STU: The work never ends.
GLENN: Cornyn cannot be the head of the Senate. He cannot become the new Majority Leader.
STU: And, you know, this will be an interesting one, and one of the first things Donald Trump is going to decide here.
As he has a very packed next couple of months, doing all of this transition, and getting all these people ready for these positions. He has a ton to do.
But this Senate leadership race will likely go to Cornyn or Thune, unless Donald Trump takes a strong stand and puts his thumb on the scale for someone like Rick Scott.
And I don't know -- I don't know what level of priority that is for him.
GLENN: I know. He really likes Rick Scott, doesn't he?
STU: I think so. So he may very well do it. I hope he's aggressive on that one. There's so much for him to do.
And look, it will be a real challenge for all these things he's wanted to do.
For all the -- the project 2025 things he was supposedly had planned.
GLENN: Thank goodness. Thank goodness, they -- they -- we lied enough to make sure that nobody knows that his whole plan is project 2025.
STU: Oh, do you remember when we said, it was just a think tank. White paper.
That the Heritage Foundation has produced every year since 1984.
Oh, that was a real scam on that one.
It works so well.
GLENN: Oh, man. They bought that lie.
STU: Think of all the things they tried, Glenn.
Just with Kamala. You had project 2025.
You had Trump is Hitler. You had actually we're joyful. You had J.D. Vance is weird. Like, all of these things. These are all just cataclysmic failures. None of them did anything.
They were all embarrassing failures.
GLENN: Yeah. Over the weekend, I heard the worst on J.D. Vance.
That he's going to inflict his mommy issues on all of us.
I'm like, what kind of monster are you?
I mean, the guy is like a miracle. I -- I tweeted last night, let me see if I have this. Because I just thought. You know, we really need to be grateful to the Lord.
For this miracle that we saw last night.
But also, you know, there's a lot of people that worked their butts off. Charlie Kirk, you know --
STU: Charlie is going to be swimming in money after this.
I can't even -- I can't even imagine.
GLENN: Oh, I know. I know.
STU: You want to talk about a person who has increased his profile. And is going to be very much rewarded. Is going to be Charlie.
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: Between Elon Musk and Charlie Kirk.
Really responsible for the turnout operation. Which seemingly outmaneuvered the entire democratic machine.
GLENN: Yes.
STU: In state after state.
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: Again, we will all look at this and say, at the end of the day, he will come out probably 312 electoral votes. It will not look like it's that close of an election. But truth of the matter is, all of these states are pretty close.
These are all -- he basically swept seven states with by pretty narrow margins.
And that is a -- I mean, turnout has to be a part of that story.
Pretty amazing.
GLENN: And that is Elon Musk and Charlie Kirk.
Let me go through the list that I put on.
And I would love to hear any editions from you.
Thank you, Charlie Kirk for everything you did to serve and save the republic.
Elon Musk, thank you for your vision and your courage to defend a man's right to be heard.
And to speak.
What that guy did is absolutely heroic. Heroic.
He knew he was going to be taken apart.
And even when they said, we're -- we're possibly going to deport you. When they were going down, they put him in jail, deport him. He still goes forward.
Amazing. RFK, for make America healthy again.
Tulsi Gabbard, for just her courage, and her honesty. And her willingness to be humble.
Joe Rogan for putting the stake in the heart of the mainstream media. That thing is dead now. That is dead.
And they're only going to make it worse. All they have to do is go, okay.
Wait a minute.
Can we take a week here, and just look at, what did we do?
What have we been doing, that's not working?
But they won't do it.
They're so deep in their own lies, that they'll never find their way out of it.
Because there's no humility there either.
I mean, if you're not humble. You will never fix it.
Which reminds me.
Let's make sure we are humble.
Make sure that we are humble. Or we will lose it again. We've been given a second chance. It's like America, you know, was on the table, and our heart stopped. And somehow or another, it just started beating again. Let's -- I don't know. Let's -- let's stay away from the fatty foods for a while. Maybe get some exercise. J.D. Vance.
Look at what J.D. Vance brought to the table. He showed us that even the most disadvantaged, can take charge of their own life. And create their own miracle. Their own American miracle.
He couldn't have happened in any other country, but America. And we had forgotten that that is who we really are.
That that can happen in this country.
STU: Can I -- can we go a little bit more on J.D. Vance for a second?
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: We're told VP picks don't really matter. And I think that's typically true. Normally, it isn't that big of a factor.
I think in this election, we will look back at it as a massive factor. Number one, J.D. Vance outperformed every vice presidential candidate I've ever seen in my entire life.
He was absolutely incredible. He took a total beating at the beginning. Everybody said he was terrible.
But he went on, and made serious arguments in unfriendly places. Over and over and over again.
And absolutely destroyed Tim Walz, in the one time, that they were debating each other directly.
And the same way, that it will be looked back. I think it's a really good pick for -- for J.D. Vance.
It will be the equivalent -- whatever the opposite side is, when it comes to Tim Walz. A truly horrible, horrible decision, that Kamala Harris admittedly made while she was sleep-deprived. She literally has admitted that.
It showed, he was terrible from the beginning. And, Glenn, you know, it's funny when you look at the polls cast. The -- the -- the correction after that first debate, when Donald Trump seemingly fell behind a little bit. That whole comeback comes almost to the day of that debate.