RADIOApril 25, 2022

Could Elon Musk END the left’s 'CENSORSHIP REGIME'?

Thanks to the far-left striking against another private individual — this time the Libs of TikTok creator — Elon Musk's attempts to buy Twitter now is more important than ever. Glenn Greenwald, Author of 'Securing Democracy,' joins Glenn to discuss the far-left's 'censorship regime.' It has 'become a very powerful tool in the hands of the corporate media,' he explains, and it's one of the only tools they have to shut down voices that oppose it. Which is why Elon Musk — who Greenwald says wants to 'overturn the censorship regime and reinstate a framework of free speech' — is making the left PANIC.

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So we have Glenn Greenwald joining us now. Hi, Glenn.

GREENWALD: Hey, Glenn, how are you?

GLENN: I'm very good, thank you so much for joining. I don't even know where to begin. I guess I want to start with Taylor Lorenz, and the Washington Post, exposing the person behind the Libs of TikTok. I would love to hear your opinion. Mine is, this has nothing to do with anything other than that particular thread was popular. And the Libs of TikTok was making it --

GREENWALD: And conservative.

GLENN: Right. And conservative. So it's got to be shut down.

GREENWALD: Exactly. You know, this is my view on it is: If you want to have some kind of journalistic debate in the abstract about whether it's newsworthy once a person accumulates a certain level of influence on social media and begins to do things like appear anonymously on cable shows, like she has on Fox. That it somehow is journalistically justifiable to tell the public, who the person is. Who has become so influential. I wouldn't agree with that. I don't think that's a proper way, especially for corporate giants. Media giants. Like the Washington Post. Owned by Jeff Bezos. To be spending their time unmasking private citizens. But if you wanted to argue that you can fit that within the definition of newsworthiness, that's something I could swallow. Even though I wouldn't agree with it. If it would be really applied consistently. Meaning that today, I could go and find out the real life identity of some popular trans woman, who has a following -- a big follower account on Facebook. And expose her. Even though she claims her anonymity is not necessarily for her safety. Or maybe tomorrow, Fox could send a camera crew to the homes of Taylor Lorenz' parents and siblings, in order to ask questions about her, the way she did, to the family members of this private person behind this Twitter account.

But, of course, that would never be permissible. If any of that happened, the media would have a complete meltdown. They would declare some sort of National Day of Mourning. If anybody did that to Taylor Lorenz or Black Lives Matter activists or a trans person on social media, this is nothing more than an attempt to punish private citizens for having the wrong political ideology. Under the guise of journalism. So this whole extract debate about what is newsworthy. It's just a fraud. It's a pretext to cover for the fact, that this is a political operation, designed to punish somebody for making their voice heard with views that the media dislikes.

GLENN: Is this any different than the Twitter story with Elon Musk?

GREENWALD: I think in a lot of ways, there are similarities, in that, one of the things that has happened. The censorship regime that has grown so quickly, on these Silicon Valley monopolistic platforms like Facebook and Google. And Twitter. You know, I think people have forgotten that the real cascade, the first time it was done, was only three years ago, in 2018, or 2019, when these corporations united and decided they were going to ban Alex Jones and Milo Yiannopoulos from the internet. Deperson them all at once. And most people cheered, because most people don't like those two figures. And they ignored the precedent. And we tried to warn them that the president was going to create a censorship regime. And I think what has happened, the censorship regime has become a very powerful tool in the hands of the corporate media. Because it lets them silence dissidence to their orthodoxies, and people who compete with them, who develop a large audience. Liberals of TikTok has a larger audience than a lot of media people do. She's more popular. She's more influential. They want to silence her. So I think that's one big benefit. But the other big benefit of it is it's become a very valuable way of propagandizing the public.

I don't know if you saw, I reported on it yesterday, a bunch of former intelligence and national security officials issued a letter denouncing attempts in Congress to rein in the monopolistic power of big tech by saying, it's important that big tech have this power centralized in their power. The sense of the internet. Because that's how we advance U.S. national security interest. And a lot of power centers, see this as an important tool to enforce liberal orthodoxy and to be able to punish and silence and censor and banish any dissidence from it.

GLENN: Let me switch again. Talk to you just about everything. You're so plugged in. I don't know if you saw this story, I'm sure you did. About the CIA tracking Trump phones, and this seemingly -- this seemingly goes all the way back to 2014. It's my understanding CIA cannot do that, inside of America. Does anybody care?

GREENWALD: I do not think they do. Because the reality is that the contrived and fraudulent scandal that to me natured U.S. politics for five years, basically during the entire Trump presidency, and the capable, which was Russiagate. Was cooked up by the CIA. They were the ones who wanted to manufacture that false political scandal, as a way of undermining and subverting a president who they disliked, who nonetheless had been elected by the American people.

And before the 2020 election, when they were so desperate, to ensure Trump wasn't reelected, they did the same thing.

The completely false and fraudulent claim, that the Hunter Biden laptop and emails that reflected Joe Biden's business activities in China and Russia, were Russian advertise information. Despite being a complete lie. Was used by big tech to censor that reporting right before the election. Was used by the media to discredit it. And that also came from the intelligence community. Because many of the same intelligence officials that I just said, signed that letter for big tech, were the ones who signed this letter that this was Russian disinformation.

For me, this is, Glenn, the most important and the most undercover story of the last five or six years, is the increasing use of whatever you want to call it. You know, the security state, the deep state. The CIA-led blob. That increasingly, their attention is not directed to foreign countries or adversaries, or even foreign populations, which by charter, where they're required to operate. But instead, is being -- the dark guards of these agencies are being used inward, domestically to manipulate U.S. public opinion. And U.S. elections. And I can hardly think of anything more dangerous, than discriminate unelected power factions in Washington now seeking a major role, in trying to dictate how the American public thinks, and how they vote. And the outcome of elections.

GLENN: So some of the reaction to some of these things. For instance, the Lorenz and the Twitter, you know, insanity over Elon Musk. Says to me, that they are afraid. Really afraid. And people are starting to wake up.

Are we starting to turn a corner, or is that wishful thinking? Where are we?

GREENWALD: Yeah. I think that's a great question. Because if you look at every metric, there is no doubt that public faith and trust in mainstream, large media corporations is at their lowest level ever.

Nobody watches cable news. Because they don't find any value in it. They don't trust the -- the hosts with one exception. Which is Fox. It still has an okay audience. But CNN and MSNBC are completely dying.

For all these new heralded liberal digital outlets, you know, Buzzfeed and Huffington Post, Vice, and all of those are completely collapsing.

I mean, they're disintegrating rapidly. They probably won't exist anymore. It's kind of like a complete consolidation where only the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the Wall Street Journal actually commend their audience.

So they know the public has completely turned against them. Then at the same time, what you see, the rise of independent media. You know, there's a time when I would say, just a short time ago, the most influential voice in the United States and the media was yourself.

Looking at your audience. And the influence that you have. And you still have a lot of that. I would say, now the most influential media person is someone who completely is disconnected from any media corporation, or even the discourse they produce. Which is Joe Rogan. If you look at the sites that are growing, as opposed to collapsing, the way mainstream media outlets are. It's all of the independent sites that promise free speech, that promise heterodox news.

And, of course, the people who work inside media organizations are looking at this, and they're petrified. And they want to keep hold of the only things they still have, which for the moment are the ability to censor the internet, using big tech platforms. So when Elon Musk comes and says, I want to overturn the censorship regime, and reinstate a framework of free speech, of course, they panic. That's one of the few weapons they have left, to perturb the little power they have. And also the ability to banish their competitors. People of independent media. Is also something they're really desperate to keep as well.

And it does make me optimistic, but at the same time, power centers don't lose power without a huge fight.

GLENN: Right.

GREENWALD: And even though Elon Musk is the most powerful or the richest man in the world. If he were really serious about buying Twitter and really serious about allowing freedom of speech, allowing Trump back on the platform. Allowing views that are banned now to be heard. I think he would be in for a kind of a fight from the media, from the intelligence community, from the government. Unlike anything he's ever seen.

GLENN: Oh, I agree.

And I will tell you, that I think we're dealing with people that kind of had the attitude, if I can't have it, no one will.

GREENWALD: Yeah. There's so much bitterness. And professional jealousy. A columnist at Substack. And a writer. Super interesting guy. Mostly on the left, Glenn. Very independent-minded. Freddie Dabor (phonetic) wrote an article about six months ago, basically saying that the reason that these people in the media are so vindictive and they love to destroy people's lives. Like you just saw Taylor Lorenz do, by unmasking this woman, to the applause of most of her colleagues is because they absolutely have a very miserable existence. You know, they work for gigantic media conglomerates. They -- these media conglomerates. Are not doing well. Nobody is consuming their product. Which means, the pay is bad. The work conditions are bad. They're required to turn out eight to ten kind of trivial, superficial articles, a day or 20 a week.

Just to keep the content bill grinding. They're reaching middle-age. They have no job security. No one trusts them. No one likes them. The work is unfulfilling.

That's why they're so angry. And I think a lot of it is exactly what you said. That if you find success, outside of their constraints, their corporate constraints, they despise you.

That's why they're so happy to see Julian Assange being imprisoned from his journalism, even though he's broken more major stories than anyone. Because she's he's not part of their club. And if you succeed like Joe Rogan has, or anyone else, you become their target. Because that's the only thing they have left is that anger and rage, about how the public has turned against them.

GLENN: You -- or, there was a Twitter story out from Jared Rabell (phonetic). He said, I boarded a plane today with my son. And mid-flight, the pilot announces that the mask mandate is over. Flight attendants pulled over their masks, sneezed directly into their hands, while screaming, this is MAGA airspace! My son turned to me in tears and said, I don't know what to do.

Then after posting that, he got messaged from the New York Times. A journalist. That said, I would like to talk to you over the phone about what happened on your flight this evening. Can you please give me a call at this number, or let me know how I can reach you. Hope this isn't coming too late for your day. Thank you. They didn't know that it was a joke.

GREENWALD: Imagine how completely detached you have to be from just basic American conservatives. Or just ordinary people who don't -- who aren't affluent liberals who live on the coast. To believe a story like that. That conservatives are so vindictive, that they would not only celebrate the elimination of masks, which is a very reasonable thing to do. But then to start purposefully sneezing into their hands, to try to declare this is my -- how much of a caricature you have in your head, about half the country, in order to believe that. The satire was, you know, extreme. It was designed to be immediately recognizable. And the New York Times reporter, believes it. Because that's what she believes about conservatives. So this gigantic breach we have between the elite, affluent, liberal, postal elites. And the entire rest of the country. At least in my lifetime. Has never been wider. And it's one of the main reasons why no one trusts them.

Because they live in a different world and speak a different language. And their lives are completely removed from those people's experiences.

GLENN: Glenn Greenwald. If you could hold for one more minute. I just want to ask you one more question.

And that is, what is the thing that we should really be paying attention to? What is the thing that is keeping you up at night, like this is so critical that we pay attention to. We'll do that in 60 seconds.

Let me tell you about the Tuttle Twins books. The, you know, knowledge -- knowledge is power. And you need to really understand what's going on. Right now, they're blaming inflation on everybody. And you can blame inflation on the incredible spending, in Washington, DC. On both sides.

But the one that you really have to worry about is the Federal Reserve. People think, oh, the Federal Reserve. That's part of the government. No, it's not. No, it's not. It's a corporation owned by the biggest banks in the country.

They're bailing themselves out. They're -- they're printing money like there's no tomorrow. It is the creature from Jekyll island.

It is critical for every family to understand, what inflation is. How it works. What causes it. How you stop it. And what the fed's role is, in all of this. These books aren't going to last for long. I asked the Tuttle Twins, if they would make this one for free. Because I think every family needs to have it. It's the creature from Jekyll island. The Tuttle Twins. And you can get it now at TuttleTwinsBeck.com. While supplies last. The Tuttle Twins. And the creature from Jekyll island. TuttleTwinsBeck.com.

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Glenn, I am -- I am torn on stories between SEL and what's happening in our schools, to our kids.

And The Great Reset. And ESG. I don't know where to go. What is the story, or stories that you think everybody needs to pay attention to this?

GREENWALD: Well, you know, we -- you could obviously make a case on multiple different stories, as sort of the most important. I come at it from more of a civil libertarian perspective. That's how I started writing about civil liberty abuses, on American soil in the name of the War on Terror. So for me, there's a second War on Terror, that has been launched. Not with -- with very little fanfare. In the name of January 6th, that is entirely domestic in nature. And it's entailing a whole variety of rollbacks of civil liberties. The way the January 6th defendants have decreed it. When you think of the January 6 riots has been, I mean, unprecedented.

GLENN: I agree. Yeah.

GREENWALD: And it's creating all kinds of precedence about being able to turn protesters into felons, about the ability to punish people for their political views. And then at the same time, we have an actual foreign war as well, which is ostensibly between two other countries on the other side of the world, which the United States is increasingly involved in. Biden announced $500 million today, every kind of ten days. There's another $750 million just flowing to Ukraine. Weapons being bought. Given to Ukraine.

GLENN: It's bad.

GREENWALD: And, again, whatever you think of that war. With each war, there's always civil liberties rolled back. Kind of suppression of dissent. And these two parallel wars. The domestic War on Terror, against the Trump movement, in the name of January 6th. And the war against Russia, that the West is waging, is making me very concerned about people essentially losing site of everything the government is doing.

GLENN: 100 percent agree. And I am so afraid, we are getting into a war. Of convenience here. To be able to enact all kinds of things. That, you know -- that we're collapsing our economy, at the same time. And this is only hastening that. It is -- it's an interesting time to be alive.

Glenn Greenwald. Thank you so much. We'll talk again.

This AI could change EVERYTHING by next year

With Elon Musk’s announcement of Grok 4, humanity is closer than ever before to creating AGI – artificial general intelligence – which would change everything. Glenn Beck breaks down what’s coming in the next year with AI, which even Elon Musk called “terrifying.”

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GLENN: Let me tell you the biggest story of the day.

And I think it is the biggest story possibly of all mankind, as of today.

It's going to change rapidly.

I don't know if anybody -- did either of you guys watch the Elon Musk thing last night?

STU: No, I did watch a few minutes of it.

GLENN: Okay. Did you, Jason?

JASON: No. I sure didn't.

GLENN: Okay. So the xAI team was there to unveil Grok 4. This is the latest intelligence, and let me be very, very clear.

Last night was not your typical tech launch. This is a moment that demands everyone's full attention.

We are now at the crossroads, where promise and peril are going to collide. Okay?

I have explained to you, for years, AGI.
AI. AGI. And ASI. Narrow intelligence is what we've always had.

General intelligence is the next step. And that is, it's better that man, one -- one, you know, like Grok. Can do everything. That you can do.

Better that you can do.

Okay?

And then there's super intelligence. ASI.

Artificial super intelligence.

That's when things get really, really creepy.

When you hit AGI, the road to ASI could be overnight.

Okay?

We need to understand what's at stake here. Because Grok four brought us closer to that second stage, than ever before.

Grok four is a powerhouse. They demonstrated it last night.

It surpasses the expertise of Ph.D.-level sailors in all fields.

It can get 100 percent on any -- any test for any field, mathematics, physics. Engineering.

You name it.

This is not a search engine.

This is a system that tackles problems, so intricate, they -- they go beyond our existing knowledge base.

Okay?

Let's say there is -- let's say, we have a fusion reactor. And the magnetic containment system goes down. I don't even know what I'm talking about at this point.

But it goes down.

And the top minds all on earth are like, I don't know what to do. Grok 4 can step in, model the physics, design new material, stabilize the system, and avert catastrophe. And it can do it about that fast. Now, this is the capability, that Musk says is just around the corner.

Mark my words. You know, how many -- how many years did I say, between 2027 and 2030, we would start to see this?

STU: Oh, a million times.

That was always --

GLENN: For years. Right? Yeah, always the window.

And everybody, even Ray Kurzweil said, oh, that's way too optimistic. We may be 2050.

And then people started going, 2040, 2030.

Grok shows us 2026 or 2027 is when we're going to hit it. This is the last year, that we have, before things get really weird.

Okay?

Last night, Elon Musk is touting this -- this AI.

And all of the solutions.

And then he says.

Hmm. Probably three times.

Something like this.

And I'm quoting. This is one of them.

It's somewhat unnerving to have created intelligence that's greater than our own.

He then goes on to call it terrifying, twice.

Now, this is a man who has launched rockets, you know, into orbit.

Going to Mars.

And he says, twice!

You know, after he sees the results of it. He says, you know, it's really -- in a way, quite terrifying to see what it's doing.

But we just have to make sure that it remains good!

Oh, okay.

All right. Sure.

Now, the key point in the announcement was the mention of ARC-AGI.

I had never heard of ARC-AGI. I had no idea what it was. But I noticed AGI. And I went, uh-oh. That sounds important. So this is the gold standard. The bench mark testing for artificial general intelligence.

Okay.

As I've said before, AGI. Artificial General Intelligence is a machine that matches all human cognition, across all domains.

Reasoning, creativity.

Problem solving. Not just specialized tasks like playing Go or analyzing x-rays. Everything. For instance, Musk said by mid-next year to the latest end of next year, it will be able to create a full length movie, just from a text prompt.
And do it all at once!

So, in other words, it will say, create a movie, and you just explain the Godfather.

It will do the casting. It will do the writing. It will do the filming, if you will. It will -- score the music, and it will happen that fast.

Almost in realtime. We are nowhere near the computational power now, to do that separately.

But this will do it all at once. It will make a movie with all of it, simultaneously.

So the arc AGI system is the benchmark on how close we are to AGI. Remember, scary things happen at AGI.

Terrifying things happen at ASI. ASI could be a matter of hours, or days after we hit AGI.

Grok 4 scored 16.2 percent on the ARC-AGI scale.

Why is that important? You're like, well, only 16 percent away.

Because last time, it barely broke 8 percent.

And that -- they took that test, last time with Grok three.

And it took us forever to get to 8 percent.

Now, what is it? A year later.

We're at 16 percent. Remember, these things are not linear. The next time, we could be at 32, we might be at 64.

We are on the verge. This is the last year of -- I can't believe I'm saying this. Of normalcy. Okay?

This year is -- we're going to look back at this year, probably two years ago, gosh, remember the good old days, when everything was normal.

And you could understand everything.

This is how close we are!

Everything you and I talked about last night, Stu, about what we're doing in January, make -- put -- does it make it even more critical that that happens like, oh, I don't know.

Right now.

STU: Yeah. For sure.

GLENN: You are going to need to know your values, your ethics, your rights.

You are going to need to know absolutely everything.

Now, Grok 4 is not true AGI yet.

It lacks the full autonomy and the generalized reasoning of a human mind. But it is the closest that we've come.

It's a system that can adapt, innovate, at a level that outpaces specialized AIs by a wide margin.

This is a milestone. This is not a destination, but it's something that should jolt everybody awake. So here's what's coming over the next six months. By December 2025, that's this Christmas!

December 2025, he believes, Musk, that Grok 4, will drive breakthroughs in material sciences.

So, in other words, imagine a new -- brand-new alloy, that is lighter than aluminum. Stronger than steel.

And it revolutionizes aerospace and everything else, or a drug that halts Alzheimer's progression, tailored to a person's DNA.

Grok will drive breakthroughs through material science. So brand-new materials that nobody has ever thought of.

Pharmaceuticals that we never thought could be made.

And chemical engineering, putting together chemicals that no man has ever thought.

That's going for happen by December.

Imagine a chemical compound that makes carbon capture, economically viable. The climate change stuff, that's over.

It will be over.

Because this will solve that! These are not fantasies.

This is Grok 4.

Musk said something that he never thought. He believes that within the next year, by 2027, Grok 4 will uncover new physical laws.

So that will rewrite the understanding -- our understanding of the entire universe.

That there will come -- like there's gravity. Hey, you know what, there's another law here that you never thought of. Wait. What?

That, he says, will come by 2027. This is going to accelerate human discovery, at an unprecedented scale.

I told you, at some point. I said, by 2030. It might be a little earlier than that.

Things will be happening at such a fast rate, you won't be able to keep up with them.

And it will accelerate to the point to where you won't even understand what all of this means.

Or what the ramifications are!

Are you there yet?

In six months, Grok 4 could evolve into a system, that dwarfs human expertise in economics, defense, all of it.

Now, again, it's a bit terrifying to quote Elon Musk. Why?

Because we don't know, what else comes with this.

This is like an alien life form.

We have no idea, what to predict. What it will be capable of.

How it will view us, when we are ants, to its intellect.

Okay?

It is a tool, but it is also Pandora's box.

If Grok 4 is the biggest step towards AGI.

And maybe one of the last steps to AGI.

My feeling is: What I've been saying forever.

2027 to 2030, I'm leaning more toward the 2027 now.

Because of this announcement last night.

We are on the verge of AGI.

And everything in human existence changing overnight.

And as Musk said himself, two times, it's terrifying!

We should act like it is terrifying.

Or risk losing the control of the future, that we're all trying to build. That's the biggest story of the day.

I think! In my opinion.

Bill O’Reilly’s SOLUTION to the DOJ’s Epstein Files fallout

Bill O'Reilly joins Glenn Beck with his plan for how the Trump administration can fix the Epstein Files fallout "overnight." Plus, he explains why he believes there's only one way that former FBI Director James Comey and former CIA Director John Brennan get indicted by a grand jury.

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GLENN: All right. Bill O'Reilly.

Welcome to the program, sir! How are you?

BILL: Welcome. (inaudible)

And right off the bat, I have to correct you.

GLENN: Yeah. You're not alive. What know.

BILL: I mean, you know -- you don't know that?

GLENN: Yeah, yeah. No. I -- I thought you were dead. Anyway --

BILL: You were dead to me, oh!
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I --

GLENN: I get it.

BILL: That's just another brick in your wall, Beck.
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GLENN: It's good to talk to you, Bill.

Tell me -- you had a conversation with -- with President Trump, what, a couple of months ago, and I talked about --

BILL: Yeah. St. Patrick's Day, he invited me to sit on a cabinet meeting, which he does sometimes.

And he said, look, we've got files, Kennedy, King, Epstein -- what do you think? And I said, well, first Kennedy you've got to put out pretty much everything, which he did. King, he didn't. I don't know why. Because that's important too.

And then on Epstein I said, you have to be careful here, because this is now being used in political precincts. Both sides want to destroy anybody that was associated with Epstein. And the problem is that a federal investigation. They don't make a determination whether you had a -- what kind of relationship you had with Epstein. They just said, so-and-so had lunch with him.

Or maybe so-and-so had -- saw him at a party. And I said, any name of a human being associated with Epstein, in any way, that person is going to be destroyed. Because you know, the press is not going to put anything into context.

So I said, but it's very important that the Justice Department tell the folks what they know.

And you don't have to get specific with anything.

But you have to say, this is the information that we've compiled. And that's not hard.

And I don't know why the Trump administration is not doing that.

GLENN: Wow!

So, first of all, it's your fault, that we're not getting any names. We learned a lot here.

BILL: Probably my fault, but the president --

GLENN: You know what, I think you're right. I don't want all the names of the people. I want to know --

BILL: And I don't either.

GLENN: Right! I want to know the Justice Department has sorted through the things, and then have gone through. And said, this is criminal. This is not. These people are being indicted, et cetera, et cetera. But to come out and say, there is nothing there, I mean, it's -- it's at least --

BILL: It's ridiculous.

GLENN: It's mass incompetence, at least from Pam Bondi. How could she come out and say, it's all sitting on my desk?

And then when she doesn't release it, she says, well, that's because the FBI in New York is thwarting this process. There are people up there, that are trying to keep this from me.

And then she makes no arrests on that. We never hear about that again.

And then now all of a sudden, there's nothing to see.

BILL: Well, listen, Pam Bondi does not make decisions on her own.

No cabinet member does.

All the decisions come out of the West Wing.

So what I believed happened was, Trump was so obsessed with the big bill, with Iran, with Putin, with China.

That this -- they didn't even think about this. Okay?

GLENN: I believe that.

BILL: And it slowly began to unravel. And then I caught it by surprise.

But this is the easiest fix. Somewhere so easy.

BILL: So if I'm in charge, and that would be a great thing for everyone, except you, Beck -- but every other American, if I were in charge, tremendous. You would be in Botswana. Right.

GLENN: Right. Oh, I know.

Yeah. Yeah. I would be the ambassador of the white farmers in -- in South Africa if it were up to you. I know. I know.

BILL: No. You would be wandering around going, I am Glenn Beck. And they would go, who? That's what you'd be doing.

GLENN: That's every day.

BILL: So this could happen within the hour. Pam Bondi announces a press conference for tomorrow.

At that press conference, sitting next to her, is Merrick Garland, everyone.

You had this stuff for four years! Now, I understand that Mr. Garland has gone native and is living in a -- well, we can find him. We can pull him out of there, and have him and Pam, sit there and answer questions in a general way about what evidence the Justice Department of the United States has compiled.

GLENN: Not going to happen.

BILL: That's it!

Well, if it's not going to happen, then President Trump is going to take a hit.

But he's calculating that this will say that it's that night important.

But I don't know why you would not do it.

I just don't know. And I'm usually pretty good at predicting what the president does or does not do.

GLENN: So here's the thing, Bill.

I think he keeps focusing on Epstein. It's not that big of a deal.

It's not about Epstein. It's about justice.

It's about, can we trust the people -- correct!

It's all about credibility and justice.

And he's not seeing that. And I don't know how he's missing that. Because I agree with you.

He's been so busy on so many other things.

BILL: That's right. That's right.

GLENN: This is not at the top of his priority list.

But he did campaign on it.

BILL: Right.

And I don't know if there's anybody inside the White House.

He looks to be annoyed, when this subject comes up.

GLENN: Oh, I know.

BILL: And here's the -- what works -- you have to understand.

A guy like Donald Trump runs it all.

If he's annoyed, nobody will want to annoy him more. Okay?

GLENN: Oh, I know.

BILL: That's how it works. The older arch is, because Epstein got favorable treatment.

By the feds, in the first go around in Florida, that there's a deep suspicion about this case.

But if you break it down, if the Biden administration had any dirt on any Republican associated with Epstein. It would have been out.

And vice-versa.

If the Republicans had any dirt on any Democrats. Now, we know that former president Clinton, was involved with Epstein to some extent.

I don't know if that was a factor, okay? I don't know.

But your right for once. You're right. It's about credibility. It's about the American people trusting that we do have equal justice for all!

So what do you -- what do you make of now the Russia gate thing, coming out, today. Or yesterday.

The FISA court.

The fact that they're now saying, hey.

You know, we need to hold Brennan accountable.

We're like five or six days away.

Weeks away from him, you know, slipping past the -- the statute of limitations.

I mean, all these things are out today.

There's that. There is also the -- let's see here.

The Secret Service -- I think this happened a year ago.

But it's being reported as if it's news.

Secret Service suspends six agents assigned to protect Trump during a Butler assassination attempt. I mean, all these things are coming out. Like, look, we're busy on all these things. And I do believe they're busy on these things.

But it's like the Keystone Cops are in charge of the PR on this. It's bad.

BILL: Well, there's a lot of politics involved in both of those cases. Number one, in order to get Comey and Brennan to get indicted by a grand jury. Federal grand jury, and that's the only passage, you would have to have a whistle-blower, saying, yeah, these guys abused their power. I worked for them. And they absolutely wanted to get Trump.

And they knew the Russia dossier was phony.

And they did it anyway.

If I have that Justice Department.

Then you can get those guys.

If you don't have it, they will not be even indicted by a grand jury.

GLENN: So how is it that we do not have that Justice Department?

How do we not have that Justice Department?

BILL: Well, look. I don't know whether they have a whistle-blower or not, okay?

And if they have a whistle-blower, I want the case to go forward.

I want those two men indicted.

You can't do that, at that level.

As far as the Secret Service is concerned, monumental screw up. Everybody knows it. They fired the morons in charge of it. That woman -- I was embarrassed listening to her, trying to explain.

They didn't know what the deuce was going on. But this was across-the-board, in the Biden administration.

You know, it was a year ago Sunday, this upcoming Sunday.

GLENN: Right.

BILL: And it's just another example of how the Biden administration was the second worst administration in the history of this country. People have no idea how bad it was.

Every single agency was chaotic. Nothing worked. And this is just part of that. And we'll have a slew of stuff on Sunday. Nothing really meaningful.

I mean, they suspended the Secret Service agents, as they should have. They fired the director as they should have. The guy was a nut.

I don't know if there was anything more to that. I doubt it.

I'm more interested in the guy in the bushes. Because they don't know anything about him. I would like to know a little bit about him.

But again, the federal government, it doesn't really matter. It's the government. They never want to tell us stuff, Beck, never.

We always have to pull it out of them. It's almost like Russia or something. Come on!

GLENN: Right. Yeah. Let me ask you, let me take you back again to the Epstein thing.

I noticed yesterday, there were these people who were on the left. Who were taking tweets of mine. That say, look. These things don't make sense. On the Epstein thing. And they just have to be answered. And not anti-Trump at all.

And yet, the anti-Trump people were retweeting that, and they're trying to -- they're trying to get the right to fight against itself again and split people away from Donald Trump, where I don't think this Epstein thing is -- is splitting people from Donald Trump, at least at this point.

And I -- you know, I -- my wife stopped me from answering some of those tweets, yesterday.

Because it's never good, when you -- when I tweet in anger. Which I did.

But -- or was going to. What did you think about how this is being used against the right to try to separate us even more?

BILL: Everything is political. Everybody knows that for you.

But the MAGA people, from the mail I get. And I get a voluminous amount of mail. They're not happy.

GLENN: Oh, I agree. I'm not happy.

BILL: Now, are they going to throw President Trump under the cliché-ridden bus? No. Because to them, the greater good is being served by a fair tax bill.

Trying to cut waste.

Dealing with Iran effectively. And hopefully dealing with Putin.

That's another thing, that's on Trump's plate.

He has to deal with Putin now.

Has to. And that will be the next big story.

GLENN: How is he going to deal with it?

BILL: Lavrov and Rubio, are in Indonesia, as we speak.

And I assume that Rubio is delivering a message. That you either stop, or we're going to just absolutely crush you economically. Which the United States can do. By saying. No bank does business with Moscow.

And if you do business, no matter what bank you are, we're going to put you out of business.

Okay?

GLENN: Yeah. I've only got a couple of seconds. But didn't we already do that under Biden?

BILL: No! We didn't do the banks. We did the sanctions. And the sanctions they can always get around, because China is going to buy as much oil from Russia as possible.

You stop the banks, from doing all business with Moscow? Who is going --

GLENN: Isn't that what the SWIFT thing was all about?

When we kicked them off of SWIFT, wasn't that what that was all about?

BILL: No! Because they can still do a huge business with countries buying their oil.

And they got to pay Putin and Russia for the oil, and that has to go through the banking system.

If you stop the banking system, he can't get paid.

GLENN: Hmm, it's amazing. I'm glad I'm not the president right now. I think he's made some very brave decisions, and he is walking a tightrope. I mean, the world is on edge. And I pray for --

BILL: He looks very tired to me. Very tired. I haven't talked to him in a while, which is unusual. But you're right. You're absolutely right. That's the second time you've been right in this conversation. My God!

GLENN: I know. It's crazy.

BILL: What in the world.

GLENN: I was wrong about you being dead.

BILL: What is happening?

GLENN: It's good -- it's good to talk to you, my friend. Is everything okay? Is everything going well?

BILL: Everything is all right, Beck. We are not only successful, but that's old news. We've been that way for 50 years, but I appreciate you having me on your fine program.

GLENN: Okay. I love you.

BILL: Stu is still breathing.

GLENN: Hmm.

BILL: So that's good. Right.

But I've got a big book called Confronting Evil. Of course, we sent it, and of course you denied getting it. That comes out September 9th, so put me on a dance card.

GLENN: Well, we'll have you on. And you can also find Bill and his YouTube page. YouTube.com/BillOReilly. Or is it The Walking Dead?
(laughter)
He's not even laughing. Maybe he hung up. Bill O'Reilly, great to have him on.

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