RADIOFebruary 28, 2022

Bill O’Reilly & Glenn DISAGREE: Is Putin...CRAZY?!

Glenn and Bill O’Reilly may go way back, but that doesn’t mean they always agree. In fact, soon after Russia’s President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine, Glenn and Bill found they disagreed on what may ultimately be behind Putin’s decision making: his psyche. O’Reilly thinks the invasion of Ukraine proves Putin is a ‘loon,’ but Glenn disagrees. So, what do YOU think? Is Putin CRAZY?

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GLENN: Stu, would you check on the price of bitcoin, oil, and the Dow for me? Tell me what's -- tell me what's going on. I know we were down about 800 points before the markets opened.

Last night, Vladimir Putin started taking out all of the infrastructure. And the -- the military defenses. Of Ukraine.

He said, it's the de-Nazification of Ukraine. He again says, he has no intent on occupying it. But he has cut off the forces, so they cannot retreat to Kyiv.

This is bad for Russia, especially if it becomes a bloodbath. The president still hasn't spoken out on it. We're waiting for him. And what the consequences are going to be from the United States, and Europe.
This could be, a very bad development. Bill O'Reilly is joining us now.

Hello, Bill.

BILL: Yeah. Biden is going to talk at 12:30 Eastern. So show up at 1:30. The undisciplined White House. He's always late. So they're writing up the speech now.

He doesn't write the speeches. He doesn't even edit them, interestingly enough.
And they're writing it up. And he will go over two or three times. And then he will go out.

You know, I figure about 1:30. 1:20.

And what he'll say is that they're going to -- you know, up the sanctions. More, no one will understand exactly what that is.
Unless you're a micro economist.
But what he has to do now. And there's no two sides to this story.

He has to break Russia economically. He has to break them. And is this the time to do it. So I was wrong about Putin.

And you know how thrilled I am to admit how wrong I am, Beck. I was wrong, pause I thought Putin was a rational man. Rational leader.

He is not. It changes the equation.

So --

GLENN: Wait a minute. Hang on. Hang on. Bill, is there a chance -- because he's always appeared to be a ruthless killer. But also, a -- a rational ruthless killer.

BILL: Yes.

GLENN: I cannot find any rhyme or reason.

So maybe we're looking for the wrong reasons for him.

BILL: Well, look, it doesn't matter, what the reasons are.

GLENN: Well, it does. Hang on --

BILL: International law. He's trying to destroy the world order. And build up a New World Order.

GLENN: Correct. So hang on.

Let's look at that for a second.

If you know they're going to put sanctions on you. A normal person would say, well, we're not going to be able to handle that. But you know, and I know, Bill. Some thing that most people don't know. I think it was four or five years ago. Putin met with the Western press. And said that World War III is already here. Already being fought.

Your leaders just don't know it, and it will be fought with ones and zeros.

If he is indeed looking for a New World Order. This allows him to fight back, and cripple financial markets.

Cripple -- do what we're doing to him. But fight with ones and zeros.

BILL: Okay. But it's a different situation, Beck. Yes. He's going to hurt. And has hurt worldwide financial markets.

And the Dow is down about 700 points. 800 points today.

And oil is up over $800 a barrel. That's temporary for us. But for him, it isn't temporary. So the only thing you can do with an irrational leader. And one of the reasons I made the mistake in my analysis. But wouldn't bring military invasion to Ukraine. Was when I talked to Trump, Trump thought he was rational. Trump thought that there were lines that Putin wouldn't cross. Because he didn't cross them with Trump.

GLENN: He is.

BILL: Okay. Now we know that Putin is not rational. So when you have a dangerous person with power in that area. And you can say Saddam Hussein was one. Adolf Hitler was one. Josef Stalin was one.

And history is littered with them. You have to break them early. And history has shown that.

And the United States and Europe, in a combination, can break the Russian economy, which would lead to a coup against Putin.

So the people would rise up. The military would turn on Putin.

I don't think anybody is real thrilled about this invasion of Ukraine within Russia. Because it doesn't do them any good. It doesn't do them any good.

They're basically having trouble feeding their people now. And that's China's problem too.

So they have trouble providing a decent standard of living, for their own people, and this is going to hurt them even more. So you have to crush --

GLENN: So Putin is not -- Putin is not suicidal. He knows, if -- if -- but --

BILL: It's too late.

GLENN: No, I'm telling you, if we would have just said, the Ayatollah Khomeini is irrational and a crazy man, and left it at that. Or Osama Bin Laden. We wouldn't know who we were dealing with. It seems irrational to us. But that's because we're not viewing it from their point of view.

BILL: No, it doesn't matter at all. His point of view doesn't matter. Because he's already demonstrated that he's going to start a war.

So what the deuce does his point of view matter? Now we have to take --

GLENN: What is he trying to -- what is he trying to accomplish? What is his real goal?

BILL: Okay. So his real stated goal, is to reimpose the power of the Soviet Union.

That's his stated goal.

GLENN: Empire, right.

BILL: Yeah. But I think he's a loon.

I think he's a sociopathic, megalomaniacal loon.

GLENN: He's all those things, except for the last one.

BILL: So then, if that's who he is, that he wants to blow up the world, okay? Then you have to stop him from blowing up the world. And the only way to do it, is to break the Russian economy. So the Russian people themselves, take care of him.

GLENN: All right.

So there is this weird thing going on, Bill.

Where people are saying, either we've got to go in, and put boots on the ground. And go to war.

Or they're saying, we love Putin.

And, you know, we caused a lot of these problems. Which some of that is true.

But not this.

You know, I think we need to recognize, Putin is a real estate bad guy. This is a very bad thing. Violation of international law. And we need to part of the solution. But that see not mean to go to war with Russia.

Would you agree with that?

JASON: Yeah. I mean, look, you're not going to get into a shooting war with Russia, unless Russia invades a NATO country. So if that happens, then you have to uphold the treaty and defend militarily.

But it won't be the kind of war that was waged in Vietnam and Korea, even to some extent, in Iraq. This will be a high-tech situation. And Russia, again, has tremendous weapons. They can inflict an amazing amount of damage on the world.
Now, will this guy, Putin, bring it to that?
I can't predict.

But the fact that he did this, is that you don't give him the opportunity.

All right?

GLENN: Right.

BILL: So if you inflict massive economic pain on Russia now, this is the only way to stop this man.

So if Biden comes out and is a mealy mouth bumbling guy, at 12:30 in his conference today. Then we're in serious trouble. I do not expect that.

I expect that he will tell the world, that there will be no more commerce with Russia. None.
Okay? Everything stops. I would say, no Russian airplanes are going to be allowed to land in the United States or Europe. I would absolutely say that.

Because everybody can understand that. Okay?

And I would also say, if China or anyone else, helps Putin, we're going to slap economic sanctions on them.

Now, that's the tough guy approach we need.

Will Biden do it?

And if he doesn't do it, then we have a totally different discussion here.

GLENN: Yeah. If he doesn't do it.

You're a historian, Bill. Correct me if I'm wrong.

This is what it must have felt like in 1939, with Germany.

BILL: But it was a different situation then. Because the allies then, in 19 -- the late 1930s, when Hitler was running Russia, weren't prepared for war.
We are. Trump rebuilds our military. Okay?

And we are a ferocious military machine. And so is NATO. I mean, Ramstein Air Force Base. If it were me, if I were president, I would be moving heavy bombers in there now.

Just as a show of force. Okay?

You've got to send a message to China and the rest of the world. We will not tolerate a breakdown in world order.
Caused by a gangster. All right?

That's who Putin is. He's a thug. All right? Go ahead.

GLENN: Do you think anyone in our Pentagon. Anybody in the White House, really would know how to position, without getting us into a war, know how to position this, or fight this?

I mean, you -- there was one of the national security advisers for Obama last night. And said, I don't trust any of these people in the White House. And I know them.

I don't think they're prepared to do this.

BILL: I don't deal in that paranoia role. I don't deal in the world of punditry, that says, I will let it go, it's not America's fault. You want a worldwide depression? You want everybody in America paying $10 a gallon for gas? You know, thirty dollars for a hamburger?

Then you let these guys run wild, because that's what will happen. All right?

So there's this idiocy. And I'm starting to lose patience with it. On television, every night. Where Putin is not that bad a guy.

It's Biden's fault, that this is happening. It's not Biden's fault this is happening.

Did Biden make it easier? Absolutely.

Did everyone on the planet know, he would be a weak president? Well, if you didn't, you're a blanking moron. All right? But 80 million people voted for him? That's on us. Are we going to learn a lesson from that?

I hope so. You put a weak guy in, you have the civil war.

You put a weak guy in 2020, you got Putin running wild. Okay? Are we getting the message? No more weak guys. No more progressives. No more green new deals.

No more. Or you'll live a life of misery. And your children will be in chaos. Do we all get that now, please?

But you don't blame Biden for what Putin is doing.
That's stupid. You rally behind the country. United States. And you say, we're breaking Russia economically. We're sending a message to China, right now.

You are not going to destroy world order. Because if you do that, every American gets hurt. You see the linkage? If you don't, you're a blanking moron. I hate to be so stark, Beck. But it's time for this kind of talk, in this country. America has made a tremendous mistake, electing Joe Biden.

If you're still defending your vote, you're stupid. Stupid. If you're behind the progressive movement, you're destructive.

I don't want you in my house, okay?

It's over. They failed. Biden is a bad president. Unfortunately, he's the only one we have. And now, we have to demand that he break Russia economically.

That's what has to happen, if Americans want to go back to normal lives. Period.

GLENN: All right. Bill O'Reilly, I wish you would be a little more clear on your feelings right now.

I want to talk to you about -- I've never heard a president, at the point of what it was two days ago, say, and this is going to cost the American people money. There's going to be hardships here. There are.

And I would like to talk to you about what you think this would cost us, as people.

And what we should do, as people. Back with Bill O'Reilly. In just a second.

GLENN: So, Bill, I want to ask you, first of all, have you ever heard except in like World War II, a president say, that these things are going to cost the American people? I mean, financially.

I've not heard that from any other president.

And what he was talking about was gas prices, and everything else.

And it is going to cost us.

BILL: No doubt it is.

And this is a foolish ideologically driven policy, of trying to strangle the fossil fuel industry, in the name of climate change.

When you have -- and I don't know whether you noticed this or not. But last week, China and Russia made a deal for coal.

Where Russia is going to ship thousands of tons of coal, to China. Who is building five new coal plants, for energy.

GLENN: A week. A week.

BILL: We're destroying our fossil fuel industry here?

And they're doing that?

I mean, this is the kind of stupidity, that's driven by the corrupt media. Hollywood. All of the places, where you hear it.

That's just incomprehensible.

It's incomprehensible. I want a clean planet. But you don't destroy the infrastructure of your energy delivery system, when people need to get to work, and heat their homes. Because of this whole blanking theory. Okay?

While the other side of the world is polluting the hell out of the planet. You don't do that. That's stupid. Again, I have to use that word.

Okay? So now --

GLENN: But it's true.

BILL: Again, 80 million Americans voted for this man. My stupidity means you have to pay more money for fuel.

That's what it should say. It's not all Americans have to sacrifice. It's my stupidity, is causing your bills to go up.

That's the truth, is it not, Beck?

GLENN: It is.

Bill, I have about 90 seconds left. What should we watch for, good and bad in the speech today?

BILL: If it's all gobbledegook, and you don't know if it's this bank and that bank, and this guy can't come to Finland and whatever. Then you know it's BS. If he gets out there and says, no more dollar transactions with Russia. We're going to strangle their economy. We're going to break them. Because we can't put up with this kind of stuff. And maybe we have something.

GLENN: Hmm. I have to tell you -- if a member of the audience is not subscribed to BillO'Reilly.com.

I would subscribe right now. Because I have a feeling Bill is a little passionate on this.

And by the time he hits his program this afternoon and evening.

I have a feeling, he will be deadly on this topic.

Bill, thank you so much. God bless you.

BILL: Okay, Beck. Thank you for having me.

GLENN: You bet. BillO'Reilly.com. BillO'Reilly.com.

TPUSA Presents This is The Turning Point Tour LIVE with Glenn Beck at the University of North Dakota

In this poignant segment of Turning Point USA's American Comeback Tour live event, Glenn Beck honors the late Charlie Kirk by revealing his private plan to name Kirk as his successor in conservative media, emphasizing Kirk's unparalleled dedication and achievements. Blending themes of faith, history, and personal resilience, Beck shares life principles on forgiveness and truth while unveiling 'George AI,' a revolutionary tool for exploring American history through digitized artifacts and interactive conversations with Founding Fathers.

Israel and Hamas sign Trump's historic deal. Will it work?

Israel and Hamas have signed phase 1 of President Trump’s peace deal, paving the path for the release of all remaining hostages, hopefully in a few days. Glenn and Stu explain the significance of this historic deal and what it could mean moving forward.

Transcript

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GLENN: Oh. Your initial thoughts here on the peace deal?

STU: It's an incredible opportunity. I think it is important to remind ourselves, that this -- these things typically do fall apart. That is essentially your expectation, any time anything like this happens. Part of this is going to be Hamas coming through on promises.

I have very little belief that they are typically able to do such things.

That being said. They probably also -- you know, one of the things -- a friend of mine pointed this out to me. We were going through all of this.

And he said, you know, one thing to think about it: This is, like, not the B team of Hamas. But the R team of Hamas. They've killed so many of the leadership.

GLENN: Yeah, yeah.

STU: These are people making decisions that were not at the top of this organization and had those ridiculous ideological beliefs that would lead you to October 7th. That's not to mean that Hamas, these people that are left are like, "Hey, you want to invite them over for Thanksgiving."

But I do think there's a possibility here that they're like, you know, maybe this life is not here for us.

GLENN: That would be nice if that were true. I don't know if that were true. But it would be really thyself.

STU: I don't know if that's true. I do think there may be a little bit lower ideological commitment, potentially. And also, the idea that some of these people might be able to make this deal and escape to another third country.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: And live life there, in a different way.

GLENN: So the breaking news that just was announced, Israel, their parliament or their cabinet just met or approved phase one of the deal.

And Hamas has just come out and said, they accept phase one of the deal.

That means the hostages will be released either this weekend or Monday.

Any remaining hostage will be released.

STU: I mean, just that.

GLENN: Just that.

STU: If that occurs, it is a massive achievement.

GLENN: Yes.

STU: So far, it is already the greatest opportunity we've had.

And only possible because of his detection to this idea!

GLENN: And his deal-making.

Not just his vision.

But his ability to work all of the parties and find out what all the parties need.

And make it happen.

You know, we're not talking about peace between Gaza, you know, Hamas, and Israel.

We're talking about peace in the Middle East.

STU: Yeah. It's bigger. It's bigger than just Israel.

GLENN: I mean, it's Egypt and Saudi Arabia and -- and Jordan to some extent. And -- and Turkey. All of them getting together and saying, you know what! We'll rebuild Gaza. We want to make it into a very prosperous kind of area. I mean, think of places in Saudi Arabia that are so prosperous. That's the way Gaza could be. So they're all getting together and they're saying, "We will rebuild. We'll oversee. We will try to make everything -- you know, keep everything held."

They will put their money into it, which means they have a lot to lose if it goes awry. And they're all saying, "We can co-exist with Israel."

Three years ago, did you even think that was possible?

STU: Yeah. And, you know, look, there are a lot of places you can go and find non-stop criticism of Donald Trump. They will say terrible things he does, and everything he does is the worst thing ever.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: Also, there are plenty of places you can go where you find that everything that he does is the greatest thing of all time.

I hope you realize that's not what we do here. And I -- on a -- I said this -- and you said this as well when we -- when this was unveiled.

Sometimes, you can get -- people are critical of the way Trump handles these situations.
Sometimes. And sometimes there's arguments on that.
Sometimes it's not the best approach.

You know, we were critical of him, for example, how he handled Canada. You know, probably cost Poilievre that election. And I think that's a really bad thing.

GLENN: I do on top.

STU: That being said, this is a great example of where his instincts work perfectly. This is all set up over a long period of foundational stuff from his first term. With the decision he made, to come out and just announce the agreement with Netanyahu. We agreed. We agreed to this peace deal.

Now, in theory, we have no position to agree between these two parties. But he came out and all of the focus had been, look at all the bad things Israel is doing. Look at how bad, they're so evil. They're so bad.

And he said, we agree with Israel. Now we just need Hamas.

And so the world's attention was like, what's Hamas going to say?

Finally, he was able to focus his attention to the appropriate place. To the party that is holding the hostages, to say, hey. How about asking if they want to a freaking cease-fire for once?

He was able to do that. In a way that I think only Donald Trump could achieve. Which leads to this, over a long foundation.

GLENN: And here's another thing.

You know, this guy has walked through wall after wall after wall of fire. Everybody calling him everything. Nazi, every day.

Here's a guy who, you know, in a time period where the whole world is like, the Jews control everything. Donald Trump is run by the Jews.

He not only kept his relationship with Israel solid and helped them, when he thought they were right. But when they were wrong, in his view, he chastised them.

He knew how to do it. And still hold their respect.

And gained the respect of places like Qatar. And say, so Qatar. When he chastised Benjamin Netanyahu and Benjamin Netanyahu had to I think apologize to some degree about what they did in Qatar.

That's when the Middle East went, wait a minute.

He's not being controlled by the Jews! You know what I mean?

That should be a really big wake-up call to everybody who thinks that Donald Trump is just being controlled by the Jews.

No. No. No. He's not.

He does what he thinks is right. And he'll chastise both sides.

And he will support either side. When they're right, to get to a deal. That's good for everybody.

This deal could be amazing.

I don't have any -- and it's not because of this deal.

I happen to -- I read the end of the book. So I know how this ends.

This will not -- you know, this is not --

STU: You skipped ahead?

GLENN: I skipped ahead. I skipped ahead.

STU: Don't ruin anything.

Don't -- no spoiler alerts.

GLENN: I won't. No spoiler alerts.

Let's just say, this might last for a week. It might last for a thousand years. I don't know.

But we will be in this situation again. We all know that. We all know that. But let's take and celebrate peace while we can.

And the hostage is coming back. That is massive. Massive.

And due to Donald Trump.

Today, if you don't like Donald Trump, fine. Fine.

But how do you take this one apart?

Honestly, how do you not claim this is a massive victory, for the whole world?

STU: Well, I can tell you, that a lot of people on the left are rooting for it to collapse, which is a shockingly revealing moment. I mean --

GLENN: Wait. What?

STU: They are -- you know, they're not going to be out there like, we hope this collapse is.

But you know they hope it collapses.

They don't want to give Trump credit for it.

And they would rather have this continue. They would rather have this war go on.

Than admit that the reason it's ending is because Donald Trump was able to negotiate this deal.

That is central!

GLENN: I think anybody who has played politics with the Palestinian, you know, all that stuff. And all the stuff on the streets. That -- that has been a very effective tool for them. And so I would agree.

And they don't want that tool to be taken away.

STU: You think the Hamas wing of the party wants this? You think Rashida Tlaib is all thrilled about Donald Trump's efforts here. They will hear about Ilhan Omar -- how wonderful --

GLENN: Those are extremists.

STU: I mean that. This is a very revealing dividing line on the left. Right?

If there is anything that is ever going to happen, that Donald Trump can be given credit for. That you think this could be clear. John Fetterman. Fetterman has obviously pretty good on this issue. But Fetterman came out, gave a statement that should be basic. Basic. Like, hey, this is good. And I really hope it works. Donald Trump did a good job on this.

That's the type of stuff that should be obvious for everyone to be able to --

GLENN: That's what "Tip" O'Neill would have done. "Tip" O'Neill and Ronald Reagan, they got together. They disagreed. They fought hard, but they had dinner.

Yeah. Because "Tip" O'Neill could say, that was good. That was good. What he did was just good for all of us.

STU: That worked well. Good. I'm glad that happened. You should be glad that happened. We should all be rooting for the success here.

Even if what the -- you know, like, I rooted -- again, I have all sorts of criticisms the way Barack Obama dealt with the Middle East.

Yeah. Plenty of them. And we went over them over and over and over again.

And plenty of issues with specifically the way he went after Osama bin Laden. But on the day that it happened, really happy about.

Very happy that we were able to do it.

Now, look, it's our military that does it. They can say all this stuff too. They can say, oh, well, the real reason is. Blah, blah, blah.

But we can still be happy, that this occurred. And you can still be excited and give credit where credit is due.

GLENN: This is a win for all humankind. For humanity!

For life!

Stopping Hamas from torturing. You know, torturing kidnap victims.

Stopping the bloodshed that was happening because of the war on both sides.

That is a win. Having the possibility of a stable Middle East, at least for a while. That's a win!

That's a win all the way around. Everyone should be happy. I don't care if you like the president or not.

Everyone should be happy that mankind, put one on the chalkboard for all of mankind today.

This is a huge -- never seen -- this is on the good side. Never seen this one before. Didn't see this one coming.

I mean, we should all be able to say, wow!

And thank you. Because he's the -- I really, truly believe, when it comes to negotiating things like this, there is nobody better.

I mean, that's what he does for a living.

And he knows it. He knows how to read people. He knows how to it.

And this is evidence of it.

STU: And he will do things that are so out of the norm. That it resets everybody's thinking. You know, I mentioned --

GLENN: If he wouldn't have done that. If he wouldn't have done that, we wouldn't have all the Middle East signing on to a peace deal.

STU: I respect. What would they have done in a situation like Trump was with Netanyahu?

Their advisers would have said, "Look, this is great. You guys are together on this. Let's go to Hamas. We'll talk to them. We will see if we can get something done. We don't want to ruin it by announcing it publicly. There are times, where that tactic cannot work. But it worked really well here."

He forced them to basically say, "No, we don't want a cease-fire," or, "Okay. We'll go along with this."

And, by the way, you go down this list, there's a lot of stuff -- this is Hamas never, ever having control of this region ever again is built into this agreement. Now they've only talked about -- they're only on phase one here. So we don't know that we get all of this stuff. But like, there's a lot here that really improves the lives of Israelis, of --

GLENN: Palestinians.

STU: Arab Israelis in the region. You know, Palestinians. Other Arabs in the region.

GLENN: Saudi Arabia. Everybody.

STU: Yeah. Not to mention, just globally.

Right? This is a positive.

GLENN: Look what this does.

That's Turkey. So that separates Turkey from Syria, which is right in bed with -- with Iran.

I mean, think about how this box is. If you have the entire Middle East, now operating with Israel, and saying, we have a right to exist. Think about what that means, for this block, now to Iran. Iran doesn't mind being a pariah.

But now, everyone is officially saying, aisled do business with them.

STU: We will choose business over these guys.

That's a big statement in that world.

GLENN: That's a big deal. Big deal.

Big investors buying gold: What does this mean for your dollar?

Gold has reached a record high price of over $4,000 an ounce. So, what does that mean for your dollar? Financial expert Carol Roth joins Glenn to explain why this news is so concerning and why many big investors have started to buy gold.

Transcript

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GLENN: Well, Carol Roth, welcome to the program. How are you?

CAROL: I'm doing great, Glenn! I'm actually celebrating my 26th wedding anniversary today, so it's a blessed day.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. Congratulations! Congratulations! It's weird. I'm coming up on my 26th on January.

CAROL: Oh, fabulous. Fabulous. It's a good amount of time to be married, yes.

GLENN: It is. It is. So, Carol. Let's talk about the price of gold hitting --

CAROL: It's over 4,000.

GLENN: Which is nuts. And I don't think people really understand. I don't think the average -- this is my guess, and I want you to correct me. I don't think the average person is buying gold. I think this gold-buying is happening from sovereign funds and central banks, mainly. Also, Asian markets. I don't think Americans really understand what $4,000 an ounce means. Can you explain it?

CAROL: Absolutely. I think the world both, investors and central banks are catching up to the things that you and I have been talking about for years. So, you know, we're ahead. We warned everyone. And now this is a little bit of catch-up. Interestingly, you know, as you noted, the average American is very behind in terms of what gold means.

When you look at Chinese households. When you look at Indian household. There are estimates that each one of those country's households owns up to 30,000 tons of gold at this point. Which to put that in context, the US government owns 8,133 times.

GLENN: So the Indian households, all of them combined, 27,000 tons.

CAROL: Right.

GLENN: What we say we have, is he 8100. Wow!

CAROL: So the households in China and India are really ahead of the curve. When you look at data for the US, it's a little bit hard to get good data. But from what I've seen, the estimates are only about ten to 11 percent of US households at all, have exposure to gold.

Now, I know that your audience is very sophisticated and is ahead of the curve. And I would imagine blows through that number. But just shows how sort of unprepared US households are in general.

GLENN: When you're looking at Indian and Chinese households that own gold. Does that include all the gold jewelry?

CAROL: Yes. Yes. That's actually, particularly in India. One of their preferred ways of procuring gold. Yeah.

GLENN: Okay. So gold has -- gold has shot up over $4,000 in record times. I mean, breathtaking time. What is causing that?

CAROL: Okay. So there are a confluence of factors, and I think the two most important factors, which, of course, are linked. Are what Wall Street is now calling the debt debasement trade. Which they're just caught up. And gave it a cute name.

And changing the global financial order. And they're very much linked.

GLENN: Yeah. Tell me, what is it? The debt debasement? What is that?

CAROL: They're doing the debt debasement trade, which is just basically what you and I have been talking about, which is our unsustainable fiscal position.

GLENN: All right.

CAROL: And what all of the money printing that we've seen over the past 17 years, what that has done to our purchasing power, and how that's going to catch up to us.

So as a reminder, our debt to GDP is at emerging market crisis levels. We were at 120 police levels of GDP.

We're running deficits equivalent to a war-time level. Or recession level, while we still have growth.

Which is crazy. We have interesting interest rate -- or interest payments that are outpacing defense spending.

So everyone is now finally catching on to the fact that this is an unsustainable financial position.

And it is going to be very difficult to get out of. Without there being some sort of additional debasement of our currency. Which is a fancy way of saying, a diminishment of your purchasing power.

What's really crazy. There's a chart that's been going around, and they did kind of a comparison of different asset classes. Price in US dollars, price in gold.

So if I look from the end of September 2018, out seven years, and you look at the top 100 NASDAQ nonfinancial companies. It's called the NDX. In US dollar terms, that is up 236 percent. So you think you're super rich, right?

But in gold terms, solid money that doesn't -- you know, that doesn't have its value debased. It's only up 4.7 percent.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

CAROL: Yeah. Of course. The S&P 500 up 133 percent over that period in dollar terms. It's down 27.6 percent in gold terms.

And what's called the Case-Shiller Home Price Index, which is the value of homes, the way that's measured. Dollar terms, 60 percent. Oh, houses. So expensive In gold terms, it's down 50 percent.

In fact, right now, it takes less gold in terms of ounces, to buy the median single-family house, than it has in decades and decades and decades.

So it goes to show, that even though we see these dollars. They're buying less and less. And now, you and I were talking about this forever.

But now Wall Street is catching on. Oh, that's not a great thing. And so in terms of preserving the hard-earned capital, we need something that is that -- that hedge. That mutual hedge that is going to retain its value.

And that's why more investors, institutional investors. Funny enough, a lot of millennials, more than anyone starting to really get in to gold.

GLENN: You know why? Because millennials have not been trained their whole life. Trust the system!

CAROL: Yes.

GLENN: And they see it clearly. And they look at it, and they're like, well, this doesn't make any sense at all. And they're going to spend this.

And they will wreck the dollar and everything else. They just see it without being trained over and over and over again. Like, trust the system. They don't trust the system.

And once you realize, the system is rigged in a million different ways. And the system is not telling you the truth.

I mean, that is amazing. When you look at the stock market. And you say, it's actually down, when you compare it in US dollars. To gold!

What's happening -- let me explain this to the audience. What all that means is: Gold is only going up in dollars. It's staying -- it's staying stable. But it's costing you more because of inflation. The dollars are buying less! So it looks like you're paying more, but you're really not. It looks like the stock market is going up, but it's really not! It's what it costs to get in with dollars. If you're going in with gold. You'll actually see that if it was all done in gold, the stock market is down. The price of housing is town.

It's the dollar. It takes more dollars to buy, than it does with gold, which holds its value.

That is -- if people could understand that one thing, that changes all the conversations of, the government has to do something to make housing more affordable. No, they don't. They have to stabilize the dollar. They have to stop spending so much money.

CAROL: Yeah, I mean, if you think of the three definitions of money, it is a medium of exchange. You know, how you helped to exchange goods.

It's a unit of account, which we say, things are priced in dollars, and it's supposed to be a store value. The unit of account, that you just talked about. My friend Steve Forbes has a great analogy, and he talks about other measurements.

You know, imagine that your clock, you know, one day, at 12 o'clock, you know, means midnight. And another day, 3 o'clock means midnight. Or 6 inches to measure a curtain one day. And then the same measurement is like a foot, a different day.

You can't have -- a consistent measurement if the unit of account continues to change. And that's what we've been seeing here with the dollar. And unfortunately, it has not been to our favor.

Which means, that when you work really hard to earn something and it's valued in a dollar, that over time, that -- that work that you put out, your productivity is worth less and less.

And so what gold is meant to do. It's meant to be Capitol preservation. It's not a risk asset. It's not meant to take on risk. And maybe go up a ton. And maybe go down a ton. It's really meant to be a counterbalance to what you have earned. So that you can preserve your purchasing power.

GLENN: You know, I've been saying this for a long time. That you put your money. And I have money in the stock market. You put the money in the stock market.

If things really go awry, go ahead. You're going to cash out for an awful lot of money. But those dollars. It will be paid back to you in dollars.

Those dollars will be worth less, even though there's more of them stacked up, than that ounce of gold, or, you know, that 10 ounces of gold, or whatever you had!

The stock market is paid in dollars. And so as the inflation goes up.

But gold keeps its value!

Keeps its value and hold it steady.

So, yeah. You will be paying more in dollars if you try to sell your gold. But that will continue to increase while stock markets will go down. Am I right?

CAROL: It's a counterbalance. So if things were to shift, and for some reason, you know, things were to change with the dollars, which we would need a lot of different catalysts. Then your gold goes down. It's a counterbalance, which is why it's important to have that diversification in your portfolio. And to have the gold hedge.

What's interesting, Glenn. Just the history, we're talking about millennials.

You know, they went through the great recession. Financial crisis.

They're kind of keyed into this. But if you think about when we came out of the '70s with this crazy inflation. We came out of the gold standard. It used to be very commonplace for a financial adviser to sit down and say, okay.

We've been through this. And so you should be putting, you know, five to 10 percent of your portfolio in gold. As the stock market took off in dollars. And became this big thing.

And they started seeking fees. That went away. Financial advisers, who don't get paid sometimes at all, when you allocate to gold. Stop recommending it.

GLENN: Yep.

CAROL: And now we're seeing a shift back, now we're seeing, you know, oh, yes. You should have some. Some of the big names out there saying, even more.

GLENN: Ray Dalio just came out and said, 15 percent.

CAROL: Yes, we've seen big names like that, anywhere from ten to 20.

And when they surveyed high net worth investors, which are $250,000 in assets or more, they're averaging right now, 21 percent of their holdings in gold.

So it's a very big flip in recent years, on how this is being viewed bit people who have accumulated those dollars and are worried about them.

GLENN: Okay. So let me just summarize here before we move on. On to some other questions.

That is exactly what my grandfather who lived through the great depression said. What are the people with big large amounts of money doing?

I want to do that. And if I did do that. I would be better off in the great depression.

You just heard it, 20 percent or more, right?

From big dollars.

They're investing in gold. 20 percent!

You should -- you should have some!

CAROL: And it's interesting. Some of the portfolios we're seeing is coming from not only the equity peace, but from the fixed-income peace, which is pretty interesting too.

GLENN: Amazing.

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