RADIOFebruary 28, 2022

Bill O’Reilly & Glenn DISAGREE: Is Putin...CRAZY?!

Glenn and Bill O’Reilly may go way back, but that doesn’t mean they always agree. In fact, soon after Russia’s President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine, Glenn and Bill found they disagreed on what may ultimately be behind Putin’s decision making: his psyche. O’Reilly thinks the invasion of Ukraine proves Putin is a ‘loon,’ but Glenn disagrees. So, what do YOU think? Is Putin CRAZY?

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GLENN: Stu, would you check on the price of bitcoin, oil, and the Dow for me? Tell me what's -- tell me what's going on. I know we were down about 800 points before the markets opened.

Last night, Vladimir Putin started taking out all of the infrastructure. And the -- the military defenses. Of Ukraine.

He said, it's the de-Nazification of Ukraine. He again says, he has no intent on occupying it. But he has cut off the forces, so they cannot retreat to Kyiv.

This is bad for Russia, especially if it becomes a bloodbath. The president still hasn't spoken out on it. We're waiting for him. And what the consequences are going to be from the United States, and Europe.
This could be, a very bad development. Bill O'Reilly is joining us now.

Hello, Bill.

BILL: Yeah. Biden is going to talk at 12:30 Eastern. So show up at 1:30. The undisciplined White House. He's always late. So they're writing up the speech now.

He doesn't write the speeches. He doesn't even edit them, interestingly enough.
And they're writing it up. And he will go over two or three times. And then he will go out.

You know, I figure about 1:30. 1:20.

And what he'll say is that they're going to -- you know, up the sanctions. More, no one will understand exactly what that is.
Unless you're a micro economist.
But what he has to do now. And there's no two sides to this story.

He has to break Russia economically. He has to break them. And is this the time to do it. So I was wrong about Putin.

And you know how thrilled I am to admit how wrong I am, Beck. I was wrong, pause I thought Putin was a rational man. Rational leader.

He is not. It changes the equation.

So --

GLENN: Wait a minute. Hang on. Hang on. Bill, is there a chance -- because he's always appeared to be a ruthless killer. But also, a -- a rational ruthless killer.

BILL: Yes.

GLENN: I cannot find any rhyme or reason.

So maybe we're looking for the wrong reasons for him.

BILL: Well, look, it doesn't matter, what the reasons are.

GLENN: Well, it does. Hang on --

BILL: International law. He's trying to destroy the world order. And build up a New World Order.

GLENN: Correct. So hang on.

Let's look at that for a second.

If you know they're going to put sanctions on you. A normal person would say, well, we're not going to be able to handle that. But you know, and I know, Bill. Some thing that most people don't know. I think it was four or five years ago. Putin met with the Western press. And said that World War III is already here. Already being fought.

Your leaders just don't know it, and it will be fought with ones and zeros.

If he is indeed looking for a New World Order. This allows him to fight back, and cripple financial markets.

Cripple -- do what we're doing to him. But fight with ones and zeros.

BILL: Okay. But it's a different situation, Beck. Yes. He's going to hurt. And has hurt worldwide financial markets.

And the Dow is down about 700 points. 800 points today.

And oil is up over $800 a barrel. That's temporary for us. But for him, it isn't temporary. So the only thing you can do with an irrational leader. And one of the reasons I made the mistake in my analysis. But wouldn't bring military invasion to Ukraine. Was when I talked to Trump, Trump thought he was rational. Trump thought that there were lines that Putin wouldn't cross. Because he didn't cross them with Trump.

GLENN: He is.

BILL: Okay. Now we know that Putin is not rational. So when you have a dangerous person with power in that area. And you can say Saddam Hussein was one. Adolf Hitler was one. Josef Stalin was one.

And history is littered with them. You have to break them early. And history has shown that.

And the United States and Europe, in a combination, can break the Russian economy, which would lead to a coup against Putin.

So the people would rise up. The military would turn on Putin.

I don't think anybody is real thrilled about this invasion of Ukraine within Russia. Because it doesn't do them any good. It doesn't do them any good.

They're basically having trouble feeding their people now. And that's China's problem too.

So they have trouble providing a decent standard of living, for their own people, and this is going to hurt them even more. So you have to crush --

GLENN: So Putin is not -- Putin is not suicidal. He knows, if -- if -- but --

BILL: It's too late.

GLENN: No, I'm telling you, if we would have just said, the Ayatollah Khomeini is irrational and a crazy man, and left it at that. Or Osama Bin Laden. We wouldn't know who we were dealing with. It seems irrational to us. But that's because we're not viewing it from their point of view.

BILL: No, it doesn't matter at all. His point of view doesn't matter. Because he's already demonstrated that he's going to start a war.

So what the deuce does his point of view matter? Now we have to take --

GLENN: What is he trying to -- what is he trying to accomplish? What is his real goal?

BILL: Okay. So his real stated goal, is to reimpose the power of the Soviet Union.

That's his stated goal.

GLENN: Empire, right.

BILL: Yeah. But I think he's a loon.

I think he's a sociopathic, megalomaniacal loon.

GLENN: He's all those things, except for the last one.

BILL: So then, if that's who he is, that he wants to blow up the world, okay? Then you have to stop him from blowing up the world. And the only way to do it, is to break the Russian economy. So the Russian people themselves, take care of him.

GLENN: All right.

So there is this weird thing going on, Bill.

Where people are saying, either we've got to go in, and put boots on the ground. And go to war.

Or they're saying, we love Putin.

And, you know, we caused a lot of these problems. Which some of that is true.

But not this.

You know, I think we need to recognize, Putin is a real estate bad guy. This is a very bad thing. Violation of international law. And we need to part of the solution. But that see not mean to go to war with Russia.

Would you agree with that?

JASON: Yeah. I mean, look, you're not going to get into a shooting war with Russia, unless Russia invades a NATO country. So if that happens, then you have to uphold the treaty and defend militarily.

But it won't be the kind of war that was waged in Vietnam and Korea, even to some extent, in Iraq. This will be a high-tech situation. And Russia, again, has tremendous weapons. They can inflict an amazing amount of damage on the world.
Now, will this guy, Putin, bring it to that?
I can't predict.

But the fact that he did this, is that you don't give him the opportunity.

All right?

GLENN: Right.

BILL: So if you inflict massive economic pain on Russia now, this is the only way to stop this man.

So if Biden comes out and is a mealy mouth bumbling guy, at 12:30 in his conference today. Then we're in serious trouble. I do not expect that.

I expect that he will tell the world, that there will be no more commerce with Russia. None.
Okay? Everything stops. I would say, no Russian airplanes are going to be allowed to land in the United States or Europe. I would absolutely say that.

Because everybody can understand that. Okay?

And I would also say, if China or anyone else, helps Putin, we're going to slap economic sanctions on them.

Now, that's the tough guy approach we need.

Will Biden do it?

And if he doesn't do it, then we have a totally different discussion here.

GLENN: Yeah. If he doesn't do it.

You're a historian, Bill. Correct me if I'm wrong.

This is what it must have felt like in 1939, with Germany.

BILL: But it was a different situation then. Because the allies then, in 19 -- the late 1930s, when Hitler was running Russia, weren't prepared for war.
We are. Trump rebuilds our military. Okay?

And we are a ferocious military machine. And so is NATO. I mean, Ramstein Air Force Base. If it were me, if I were president, I would be moving heavy bombers in there now.

Just as a show of force. Okay?

You've got to send a message to China and the rest of the world. We will not tolerate a breakdown in world order.
Caused by a gangster. All right?

That's who Putin is. He's a thug. All right? Go ahead.

GLENN: Do you think anyone in our Pentagon. Anybody in the White House, really would know how to position, without getting us into a war, know how to position this, or fight this?

I mean, you -- there was one of the national security advisers for Obama last night. And said, I don't trust any of these people in the White House. And I know them.

I don't think they're prepared to do this.

BILL: I don't deal in that paranoia role. I don't deal in the world of punditry, that says, I will let it go, it's not America's fault. You want a worldwide depression? You want everybody in America paying $10 a gallon for gas? You know, thirty dollars for a hamburger?

Then you let these guys run wild, because that's what will happen. All right?

So there's this idiocy. And I'm starting to lose patience with it. On television, every night. Where Putin is not that bad a guy.

It's Biden's fault, that this is happening. It's not Biden's fault this is happening.

Did Biden make it easier? Absolutely.

Did everyone on the planet know, he would be a weak president? Well, if you didn't, you're a blanking moron. All right? But 80 million people voted for him? That's on us. Are we going to learn a lesson from that?

I hope so. You put a weak guy in, you have the civil war.

You put a weak guy in 2020, you got Putin running wild. Okay? Are we getting the message? No more weak guys. No more progressives. No more green new deals.

No more. Or you'll live a life of misery. And your children will be in chaos. Do we all get that now, please?

But you don't blame Biden for what Putin is doing.
That's stupid. You rally behind the country. United States. And you say, we're breaking Russia economically. We're sending a message to China, right now.

You are not going to destroy world order. Because if you do that, every American gets hurt. You see the linkage? If you don't, you're a blanking moron. I hate to be so stark, Beck. But it's time for this kind of talk, in this country. America has made a tremendous mistake, electing Joe Biden.

If you're still defending your vote, you're stupid. Stupid. If you're behind the progressive movement, you're destructive.

I don't want you in my house, okay?

It's over. They failed. Biden is a bad president. Unfortunately, he's the only one we have. And now, we have to demand that he break Russia economically.

That's what has to happen, if Americans want to go back to normal lives. Period.

GLENN: All right. Bill O'Reilly, I wish you would be a little more clear on your feelings right now.

I want to talk to you about -- I've never heard a president, at the point of what it was two days ago, say, and this is going to cost the American people money. There's going to be hardships here. There are.

And I would like to talk to you about what you think this would cost us, as people.

And what we should do, as people. Back with Bill O'Reilly. In just a second.

GLENN: So, Bill, I want to ask you, first of all, have you ever heard except in like World War II, a president say, that these things are going to cost the American people? I mean, financially.

I've not heard that from any other president.

And what he was talking about was gas prices, and everything else.

And it is going to cost us.

BILL: No doubt it is.

And this is a foolish ideologically driven policy, of trying to strangle the fossil fuel industry, in the name of climate change.

When you have -- and I don't know whether you noticed this or not. But last week, China and Russia made a deal for coal.

Where Russia is going to ship thousands of tons of coal, to China. Who is building five new coal plants, for energy.

GLENN: A week. A week.

BILL: We're destroying our fossil fuel industry here?

And they're doing that?

I mean, this is the kind of stupidity, that's driven by the corrupt media. Hollywood. All of the places, where you hear it.

That's just incomprehensible.

It's incomprehensible. I want a clean planet. But you don't destroy the infrastructure of your energy delivery system, when people need to get to work, and heat their homes. Because of this whole blanking theory. Okay?

While the other side of the world is polluting the hell out of the planet. You don't do that. That's stupid. Again, I have to use that word.

Okay? So now --

GLENN: But it's true.

BILL: Again, 80 million Americans voted for this man. My stupidity means you have to pay more money for fuel.

That's what it should say. It's not all Americans have to sacrifice. It's my stupidity, is causing your bills to go up.

That's the truth, is it not, Beck?

GLENN: It is.

Bill, I have about 90 seconds left. What should we watch for, good and bad in the speech today?

BILL: If it's all gobbledegook, and you don't know if it's this bank and that bank, and this guy can't come to Finland and whatever. Then you know it's BS. If he gets out there and says, no more dollar transactions with Russia. We're going to strangle their economy. We're going to break them. Because we can't put up with this kind of stuff. And maybe we have something.

GLENN: Hmm. I have to tell you -- if a member of the audience is not subscribed to BillO'Reilly.com.

I would subscribe right now. Because I have a feeling Bill is a little passionate on this.

And by the time he hits his program this afternoon and evening.

I have a feeling, he will be deadly on this topic.

Bill, thank you so much. God bless you.

BILL: Okay, Beck. Thank you for having me.

GLENN: You bet. BillO'Reilly.com. BillO'Reilly.com.

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Meet the pro-Intifada candidate NYC Democrats just elected

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VOICE: Z10852. Something weird is going on. The World Trade Center is on fire.

VOICE: Seriously the top of the building. We're trying to get information.

VOICE: Top level of one of the --

VOICE: To unfold from New York City.

VOICE: A plane crashed just --

VOICE: My sister is in that believe. I hope she's okay. I have to come to New York.

VOICE: It's pandemonium.

VOICE: It's raining papers.

VOICE: Wait a minute! Stop just a second. Why are we -- why are we -- I've got breaking news. Breaking news, yesterday. New York City just elected as their mayoral candidate for the left. And the Democrats, a -- a Muslim radical, who is also a communist!

So, you know, it only took you 25 years. It only took you 25 years, New York, to go completely insane.

Somebody who is -- well, I mean, if I might quote Michael malice today. I am old enough to remember when New Yorkers endured 9/11 instead of voting for it.

But you've got a -- you've got a communist jihadist apologist now.

Who was -- you know, well, CAIR put $100,000 behind his bid for New York City mayor.

So you have somebody who is endorsed by CAIR. That's really good.

He also was somebody who said, you know, he was -- he was for the shooting of the United Health Care CEO.

Said he was looking forward to driving down magnum Joan avenue. I don't know. Sounds like supporting people in the streets. Maybe it's just me.

Then he also said that he was going to globalize the intifada, which I think that's -- maybe -- maybe that's just me.

I mean, what do I know?

Tim Miller who is a podcaster. Asked him a few weeks ago. Asked him about his pro Palestinian slogan. Globalized the intifada. And he said, for me, ultimately, what I hear in so many, is a desperate desire for equality and equal rights, in standing up for Palistinian human rights. Oh, is that what you hear, Mr. CAIR?

Really? Huh, that's interesting.

Right. So globalize the intifada.

I mean, I mean, sure, that's -- I mean well, let me go on.

Because I don't want to take him out of context.

He then delved into the semantics of the intifada, citing the United States Holocaust memorial museum's use of a word for a translation for uprising, in an Arabic version of an article, a museum published about the Warsaw ghetto.

Oh!

So this is just a comparison, about the -- the armed rebellion against the Nazis!

I don't know if that makes me feel better!

I mean, if we're globalizing that.

We're the Nazis in this scenario.

Because I don't think it's the Palestinians.

I certainly don't think it's anybody who is like, hey.

Global jihad. I don't think it's those guys.

Or the Nazis. Who are the Nazis in that?

And it seems, if that's what you mean, then it's not just a harmless kind of slogan about human rights. It is a call for violence on the streets.

Because I don't know if you know, that's what happened when the Jews had their uprising against the Nazis.

I'm just saying!

But, hey, hey, free Palestine.

Oh, that's not what that means, gang. That is not what that means, but don't worry about it. He's just going to be possibly the new mayor.

And that's great. By the way, the Columbia faculty members signed a letter defending Hamas.

They were also among the donors to his mayoral campaign.

So, you know, you don't have anything to worry about.

And his father, who used to work at Columbia. Do you know, Stu?

Is his Dad -- is he still a professor at Columbia University?

He said that -- this violent terror thing of Islam, is not a part of Islam. Now, I've read the Koran, and much of the hadith.

And I'm pretty sure the violence is a part of that. But no.

No. This is something entirely new.

And his father while at Columbia university, wanted everybody to know, that this is actually -- this is something that came out of America!

America is really responsible for this.

And, you know, it really started with the Reagan administration, you know, when he started -- when he started with his very religious terms, to finish the war against the evil empire.

So, you know, that's where -- that's where 9/11 came from.

Is what -- don't worry about it! Don't worry about it!

Because who am I? I'm clearly just -- am I an anti-Semite today, or am I an Islamophobic? I can't remember which one.

Oh, it's probably both. Anyway, Islamophobia. Let me just explain Islamophobia. I haven't even gotten to the Communist part of it. Which is really, really -- New York, you're in one for hell of a ride. Buckle up.

It will be a fun rollercoaster for you. My gosh, I've never been happier that I've been away are if New York.

Anyway, I just want I to know, there is Islam. And then there is Islamists. Now, an Islamist is somebody who really wants Sharia law.

That's political Islam!

That's not a faith. That's political Islam.

Now, let me make really -- something really clear. Criticizing Islamism, is not Islamophobia. Pointing out the dangers of, oh. I don't know.

Political Islam. The ideology that seeks to use the tools of democracy, ultimately to destroy democracy, is not an attack on Muslims.

No. Uh-uh.

You know why?

Because Muslims are often the first people in line.

The first victims of the ideology.

So let's draw a bright, bright line between Islam as a faith, millions of people can practice that faithfully and peacefully.

It's mostly peaceful, okay?

Then there's the Islamism.

Islamism is something entirely -- that's a political project.

A theocratic political -- oh. Left loves theocracies. They love it.

Of course, you never see a problem with it.

See it when an Islamist is touting it. Anyway, it's not about prayer. It's not about fasting. It's not about spiritual life.

It's all about power. It's about merging of mosque and state. It's about implementing Sharia, not as a personal code of conduct. But as a governing legal system.

And it's -- it's supremacy.

Absolutely. Faith.

Religion.

It's -- there's one thing that's supreme.

It's misogynistic.

Deeply intolerant of all kinds of things.

Descent. Secularism. Other faiths. Even competing interpretations from inside the faith itself.

It will behead them too.

So let's -- let's be honest here for a second.

You know, CAIR should be labeled an international terror organization.

In my opinion. In my opinion.

Oh, does that make me -- that makes me an Islamophobe. I'm sure. I'm sure they will start a campaign against me on being an Islamophobe.

Stand in line, guys. You've been doing it since 2001, okay?

I don't really care. And I don't think the American people. I think that record, all the grooves are worn-out on that one, okay?

This is not a religion we're talking about. When we're talking about Sharia law. And we're talking about globalize the intifada. What does that mean, actually, to globalize it?

Does that mean we now want to do what is happening to Israel? All over the world?

Has the Palestinian plight become our plight you now, as Americans?

That there has to be an intifada here!

Because it's the kind of the same. You know. It's kind of the same over, you know, with what the Palestinians are going through.

Well, it's very much like what the Jews went through with the Nazis.

That's a weird one. That one makes my head hurt. It's very much the same as that. And very much the same as the fight against Donald Trump.

Oh, this is going to be fun. It's fun!

Really fun. You know, the irony here is, the ones that will scream Islamophobia the most, are the ones in the progressive left, the champions of feminism, LGBTQ rights. And secularism.

They're going to -- no. You want -- they're going to stand with the people, who want to kill them first.

See, this is how smart they are!

This is why it's going to work out well, in New York City.

Let me just say. If you have an ounce of common sense, you run a business, you have an ounce of wealth. And I don't mean wealth like, you know, hey, Lovey.

Let's get on the boat for a three-hour tour with a suitcase full of cash. I mean you saved anything, anything, get the hell out of New York City.

I mean, this is about survival. This is about free speech. This is about women's rights.
Religious pluralism. Secular legal systems. Liberal democracy.

But it's also about failed principles of Communism. Okay?

First, you have to call out political Islam for what it is. Okay?

And we have to do it with the clarity that we call out white nationalism.

Got to do it with that. Got to -- you know, the Klan. Really bad people.

Really bad people.

Anybody who is shouting for globalized intifada?

Pretty bad. Pretty bad people.

Okay?

Now, let's get to communism.

Because that's another cool, cool angle of the new Democratic candidate for -- for mayor of New York City.

That I just -- I think is cuddly and cute. Sure, it led to 100 million deaths. But this time, New York is going to be radically different. Oh, did I use the word radical?

I didn't mean to use that. What's radical about this guy?

Nothing. He's just like you!

Well, not exactly.

But let's talk about communism, next!

Now, the new mayoral candidate that's running there in New York City. That so many young people rushed to defend and vote for. He's promising free buses.

That's going to work out.

Where are you going to get the money for free buses.

It's free!

City-run grocery stores.

Oh, rent freezes. And finally somebody has done it. A 30-dollar minimum wage.

So under the banner of equity. And, you know, we will tax the wealthy. And the corporations. You know, we're going to squeeze another $10 billion out of them.

Really?

Because they're going to call a U-Haul.

You know, they will call something like U-Haul. There will be a lot of -- there will be a lot of movers that are like, how do I get the truck back from Texas or Florida back up to New York? Nobody is moving up there.

But he's going to do it.

Now, his vision isn't really new. You know, just -- just tax people, so we could have city-run grocery stores. You know, I remember -- I'm old enough to remember those city-run grocery stores in Moscow.

They were great.

The shelves were empty.

But that's just Moscow.

It worked out completely different in Venezuela.

Where, oh, no.

It didn't. That's right. The grocery store.

They were eating the zoo animals.

But it will be different in New York.

Because they have rent controls too.

And that will just choke the housing supply, but don't worry. As a young family.

You know, you voted for it.

You know better.

It will work this time.

So, you know, I like building ideas, I just don't like usually building on the graves of 100 million people.

But, you know, why not? Why not?

You know, use this dogma.

And this time, it will be different. It's not like it was in China. Where the great leap forward, was a gross -- a gross parody of progress. Venezuela, which was oil rich. One of the richest nations in the hemisphere now sees 90 percent of its population in poverty!

Yeah. Darn it. You know what they did?

They decided to take state control of things.

You know, like grocery stores. And it worked out well. How is that free busing working out in Venezuela?

I just want to -- I just want to know.

Anyway, then you've got the globalize the intifada. Which is going to drop a little violence in, and anti-Semitism in with your communism.

Which is weird!

Because violence and anti-Semitism, always happen. When it -- when it comes to -- when it comes to communism.

This is weird!

I've got to play something for you. Because this has talked about on me earlier this morning.

Oh, wow.

Wait a minute. This is -- this is the whole coalition coming together here.

So this is going to be good. New York, this is going to be great.

It's going to be great for you.

No. He's going to uplift you. Then the social fabric of New York City is just going to be -- just one.

It's going to be fantastic. Don't worry about your 120 billion dollars in debt. Or your 10 billion-dollar deficit that you have right now.

You are going to charge the rich more taxes, and they will stay right there.

They will be like, you know what, that 46 percent in taxes that I'm paying, this is just not enough. It's just not enough.

I need to pay 60 or 70 percent to be able to pay my fair share. So that's good. That's good. That's good.

You know, they're not risking 100 million people. It's just 8 million people.

This time, it's just 8 million people.

But, hey. For those of you in upstate New York. That aren't going to be part of this experiment.

Don't worry, you get to pay for it. Because they'll kick it up to the state. The state will have to subsidize everything. And don't you love it?

Really, don't you want to subsidize the really crazy ideas of New York City?

I mean, why don't you have a -- why don't you have a democratic socialist. A/k/a communist mayor.

Why haven't you done that? Are you not progressive enough? Are you not looking into the future?

Are you stuck in the past?

I don't know. I don't know. The graveyard is pretty big. I have a hard time getting past that one. You know, yeah, so I'm stuck in the past. Because I can't seem to pass that graveyard, and get to be down the path with you. But it's going to be a paradise.

Forget arithmetic. You know, or human nature. This time, it's going to work. It's going to work. So all right!

Wish I lived in this morning.

No wait. Nope. I don't. Nope, I don't.

And Ted Cruz, stop it. Stop writing, hey, come to Texas. No. No. Don't come to Texas. Don't come to Florida. Go to California. It's beautiful this time of year. Go there. Go there.