RADIOMarch 04, 2024

How Canada Could PAY People to Throw Their Neighbors IN PRISON

Canada is now considering whether to pass a new bill that would turn it into the most authoritarian state in the western world. The “Online Harms Act” is billed as a social media law meant to protect Canadians from harmful content. But it includes some extremely draconian changes to “hate speech” laws that would allow anyone to anonymously charge someone with a hate speech crime — and if they’re successful, they could pocket $20k. Rebel News founder Ezra Levant joins Glenn to explain how this could turn into a massively corrupt industry that would make the Democrats’ persecution of Donald Trump look like child’s play. Plus, he explains how this bill, if passed, would destroy not just free speech, but the free press: “Soon there will be only two kinds of journalists in Canada: government journalists and BANNED journalists.”

Transcript

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GLENN: Ezra, welcome.

EZRA: Thanks very much. It's good to be here. But I've got bad news, Glenn.

GLENN: Yeah. What?

EZRA: Canada just introduced the most Draconian anti-free speech censorship bill in our history and in the history of any democratic country. I've never seen anything like it.

GLENN: Hang on. Hang on, Ezra. Ezra Levant.

EZRA: I can't wait. I can't wait.

GLENN: I know. Ezra Levant is the host of the Ezra Levant Show.

He started Rebel News, which is like TheBlaze. Has the same kind of mission as TheBlaze.

Ezra, we just had one of our reporters jailed, picked up by the FBI.

EZRA: Oh, my God.

GLENN: He is the one that is leading the investigation on January 6th.

He was arrested, this morning, about an hour ago.

And we're in real -- we're in real trouble.

As a nation, we're in real, real trouble.

And you guys are following, actually, you are leading, I think.

Because you guys have just introduced a bill yesterday.

That is bone-chilling.

EZRA: Well, what you just reported to me about the rest of your reporters is terrifying. And I know you will absolutely must -- you cannot allow the arrest of journalists, for criticizing your regime to be normalized. That is absolute priority one.

GLENN: As you know, Ezra, that is -- the mainstream media will not cover this. They will not cover it. And it's reprehensible.

EZRA: You know what, if he was on the other side of the political aisle, winning a Pulitzer, there would be national press conferences for him. You would see Amnesty International talking about it. You might even see the United Nations talking about it.

But if he's conservative-oriented, or a critic of the regime, it will be crickets.

Let me tell you what's going on in Canada. Because as I always say, what happens in Canada today, may happen to the US five years from now.

It's like we're a bad time machine to see your future.

This week Justin Trudeau introduced a new bill called Bill C63. It's got a lot of things in it, that are atrocious. He's created a new hate crime bill, life in prison. New hate crime law. There's nothing that gets you life in prison in Canada, not even murder. But hate speech now does.

He's created a pre-crime for hate. If you have, quote, fear of hate, fear of hate. That's the title of the section of the law, you can get a judge to issue a kind of restraining order against your enemy, before he does anything. Before he says anything. And that restraining order can include post-arrests. Giving you up any lawful firearms.

Limiting who he can talk to. Directly or indirectly.

Limiting the places he can go. And requiring him to take urine and blood tests. Just because you are, quote, afraid, he might in the future, say some hate speech.

He doesn't have to have done anything in the past.

This is a pre-crime, like in that science fiction movie, Minority Report. That's in this bill. Let me tell you other things in this bill.

Donald Trump and his tremendous travails with the US legal system. They're covered a lot by the Canadian media, and Justin Trudeau is obsessed with Donald Trump. So he's been watching what Democrats have done.

And he's learned from it. Trump has been prosecuted from high profile prosecutors. Trudeau has one-upped that.

Trudeau has now said that anyone in Canada, even noncitizens can file hate speech complaints against anyone.

And if they're successful, they get $20,000 from the target. And the target has to pay a fine for up to $50.

So let me just say this more clearly.

If there's anyone on social media. This is just a social media law on interviews. If there's anyone who has a YouTube video.

A tweet. A Facebook comment.

That you think creates hate. You can go to the Canadian human rights tribunal. And complain about it.

You don't have to hide a lawyer. You don't have to spend any money. The government will have the hearing. And if your complaint is upheld. You get 20 grand from the victim. So instead of having maybe --

GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait.

Who gets the 30? The remaining 30?

EZRA: If 20 goes to the complainants and an additional 50 goes to the government, so you're on the hook for 70 grand a pop.

So let's take someone like Jordan Peterson. Every day he's saying something controversial on YouTube and Twitter. Oh, and, by the way, this applies to all your historical work online. So as long as it's still online, and you control it, they can go back through your history. Five years, ten years. And why wouldn't they complain about literally every tweet you make? Literally every YouTube video?

There's no cost. There's no downside. And even if only 5 percent of your complaints get through to the target. You're smacking them with 20 grand for yourself. And the 50 grand fine. This will create a huge industry.

So Trudeau saw what they were doing to Trump. And said, I can do one better. I'm not going to have a few sniper shots. I'm going to have a shotgun blast. I will have hundreds of complaints swarming my enemies. And I don't even have to do it. I will mobilize a woke army. But there's one more thing.

And people can't believe it when I tell it to them. But it's right there in the law, in black and white.

You can make a complaint in secret, and the target of your complaints never gets to know your identity.

You can give evidence in secret. The complaint can be made in secret.

So you can have a company, a political party, a busybody, who is literally filing 100 a day, and you'll never know it. And let me just be clear with one thing. You don't have to be a victim. You don't have to have any standing. You don't have to be mentioned at all. You can just do this as a hobby. As an obsession. As a job. As a political vengeance. Maybe a disgruntled ex-employee. This is all in bill C63. And you take it all together. This is the most Draconian free speech bill, anywhere in the world. Other than, I suppose Iran and China, who just do this stuff naturally.

GLENN: And kill you.

EZRA: Yeah.

GLENN: So what does that mean to people like you, Ezra? Because you're going to be attacked. Rebel News is going to be attacked. You're out.

EZRA: Let me just. Let me go to first principles for one second. Let me tell you what they're doing at the basic, principle level here.

What is a hate crime? What's hate, Glenn? It's a human emotion. If you never feel any hate in your life, you don't have a fully formed personality.

The challenge in life, is to take these bad emotions, and transform them into positive work. Into reforming the world. Fixing the problem. Hate comes from an underlying grievance. To pass a law to say, we're going to ban hatred. This is impossible. If we pass the love you act, we would number heaven.

To criminalize an emotion, it's just insane.

And that is, actually, what the law governs.

And I know. Because I was charged from a precursor of this law, about 15 years ago, when I published the Danish cartoons of Mohammed.

I was charged with publishing something, quote, likely to expose a person to hatred or contempt, end quote.

So it's a pre-crime. It's a future crime, and it's not to do any actual damage.

It's just to hurt feelings, and that's the thing, is it's so subjective. We're all guilty in advance.

GLENN: So he --

EZRA: But as the Soviet's secret police chief Lavrentiy Beria said, show me the man, and I'll find you the crime.

We're all guilty of having hate in our hearts. So it's just whoever they choose to prosecute who will get dinged.

GLENN: So tell me this won't pass, in parliament.

EZRA: Well, the reason it was introduced this week, is because last week, Justin Trudeau signed a new coalition agreement, with a hard left-wing Socialist Party.

Justin Trudeau does not have a majority of seats in the House. So we signed a coalition deal with an even worse party.

And I fear this will be passed into law. And I fear it -- you know, it will take some time. They are setting up three new censorship agencies.

Not one. But three. There will be three new censorship bureaucracies.

And I think it will take them a number of months to get it going.

GLENN: Months.

EZRA: I think this will probably be operational in 2025. And then it will be the final battle, Glenn.

Because, you know, this will bankrupt any critic of the regime, and then there's those pre-crime restraining orders.

Then there's the actual criminal prosecution, they've created a standalone hate crime law for life in prison. Not even murder gets you that in Canada.

GLENN: So if this passes, you've become a Stasi state. A -- an -- East Germany.

EZRA: Yeah. The secret informants. The secret prosecution. The secret witnesses.

The subjective political nature of the crime. The three different agencies. It's, oh. And they have special rules for Facebook, YouTube, Instagram.

They say, if they get a complaint. A hate complaint, they must take it down within 24 hours. Or be subject to enormous fines.

And so there's no way you can adjudicate if something is right or wrong, or fair or not. In 24 hours.

And the fines are so enormous, basically, a complaint will automatically get things taken down. Again, I will tell you something now. And you probably won't believe me. But I swear it's in the text of the law.

There are fines in there, that can tag global media companies, 8 percent of their global revenue. So Justin Trudeau, sitting up here in Canada, says to Facebook. If you break my law, I will fine you 8 percent of your entire worldwide revenue. That's a 10 billion that are fine.

Now, I think Facebook, YouTube, Google, et cetera. I think they will probably push back on this. Or maybe they will just leave Canada. And Trudeau will be fine with that.

Facebook has already left Canadian news. Because Trudeau said to them, you have to pay $100 million to our list of approved journalists, for the pleasure of linking to them. And Facebook said, that makes no sense.

We're getting out of the Canadian news business. You cannot post a Canadian news story on Facebook. It blocks it. Trudeau is fine with that because that hurts the independent guys like us.

You can't read Rebel News on Facebook. We're blocked, as are every other Canadian news source. We are becoming like China, in that there is this great firewall of Canada going up.

Trudeau would be happy, shutting down any independent sources of news. Soon, there will be only two kinds of journalists left in Canada: government journalists and banned journalists. Glenn.

GLENN: Okay.

Ezra

California’s Illegal Aid Plan Crushes Taxpayers

“The Left is becoming so incredibly radical,” Glenn Beck laments in a fiery rant. “Every taxpayer should raise holy hell,” he says, over California’s latest change to its Medi-Cal program. After offering coverage to illegal immigrants, California’s Gavin Newsom has now realized that the program is bankrupting the state even more! But instead of ending it, he just ended SOME of it. California can destroy itself, Glenn says, but the rest of America shouldn’t give a DIME to bail out the state! Glenn also reviews a few more examples of how radical the Left has become: A mob of leftist protesters recently caused a scene at a congressional hearing with RFK Jr., a congresswoman tried to storm into an ICE facility under the guise of “oversight,” and AOC is threatening DHS for doing its job.

Transcript

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GLENN: There was some unhinged leftists.

Now, that's a little redundant.

But some unhinged leftists were at the RFK hearing. Where he's -- he's talking to the House appropriations committee.

And some crazy protester erupted, you know, in just what they do.

And if you're watching TheBlaze. I want you to watch this. Or listening to it if you're on the radio.
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VOICE: It will come to order. Members of the audience, may I remind, disruptions will not be tolerated.

GLENN: I guess they were saying RFK lies, people die. I don't. Maybe it was about Hamas. Maybe it was about too many umbrellas. I don't --

STU: It was. Too many umbrellas.

GLENN: Too many umbrellas?

STU: Far too many umbrellas for sun and for rain?

What is that?

That's everything!
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STU: I'm with them, frankly.

Too many.

GLENN: So we have -- so we have JFK -- or RFK.

Now, did you see if you were watching, did you see his reaction?

Watch again just the very beginning of it.

VOICE: RFK!

GLENN: Stop.

STU: He looks terrified. He looks like he's going to be shot.

STU: As a Kennedy, I can see that.

GLENN: Yeah. You don't do that to a Kennedy.

Now, here's what's crazy. These are radical leftists. Stu, when did people stop considering his radical leftist lifetime record?

STU: I don't know. That perplexes anyone on this one.

GLENN: He has been a radical leftist for a very long time.

STU: Yeah. I would think, there's probably examples of other hearings back in the day. Where people were doing that type of protest on his behalf. Right?

Not that he asked for it. But thinking they were aligned with him certainly on climate issues. And now, all of a sudden. I guess you get involved with Donald Trump, and everybody turns.

GLENN: Yeah. So let me go back to the testimony. Cut one, please.

VOICE: So do you agree with the cuts that are being proposed for Medicaid right now?

VOICE: Oh, the cuts. This is -- I don't know if you understand this. Or whether you're just mouthing, you know, the democratic talking points. The cuts to Medicaid are for fraud, waste, and abuse. And I'll tell you what that means. It means, because of DOGE, we were able to determine.

It's about 8 million people, what would be affected.

Because of DOGE, we were able to determine, that there were million people claiming Medicaid from multiple states. It's illegal. It's theft. You're not allowed to do that.

There are another million people that are collecting both you under Obamacare.

VOICE: That has nothing to do with --

GLENN: These are the only cuts that are being made for Medicaid.

VOICE: That's not true.

GLENN: It is. Another million illegal aliens.

We announced a law yesterday. Yesterday, they were not going to pay illegal aliens. Guess what Gavin Newsom did this morning?

He said, we'll take all the illegal aliens off the California Medicaid policy, because the feds aren't paying for them anymore. So the compassionate --

VOICE: Let me focus to you --

GLENN: It's incredible!

How no one is actually listening to facts anymore.

I mean, it's one thing, when you're not listening to facts, you know, from Donald Trump or Joe Biden.

Right? We can argue about facts all day. And we -- whatever.

This is RFK, arguing with Democrats about Medicaid, fraud, abuse, and he's saying, we're just taking people off that are illegally using Medicaid.

Who is against this?

Honestly, again, who is against this?

Now, Gavin Newsom is putting everybody on California aid. Excuse me, California?

How are you going to afford that? Every taxpayer, left, right, center, every taxpayer in California should be raising holy hell. Will they?

STU: No.

GLENN: No. They won't. They won't.

How are you going to pay for that?

Your state is going to collapse economically.

Now, you know why the Democrats are not worried about that, is because that's part of the plan!

That is Cloward and Piven.

Collapse and overwhelm, and collapse the system. And they -- they have already done it. They did it in New York City, back in the '70s. And New York City collapsed. Now they're doing it to states. And it's going to happen the same way.

And I'll be damned if I am going to send my taxpayer dollars to California, because you didn't have the balls or the brains to stand up. Not doing it.

I'm not doing it. Hey, dummy, only one of us is going to be right in the end, about your financial collapse. And everybody who can put two plus two equals four, down on a table, not seven. And even if you show me your work. But four, this is simple math.

You are going to collapse. Why am I going to pay for it?

You come to the United States of America. And you ask us to bail you out. And anybody in Congress, that is from my state, I will -- I will make it my mission to put you out on the street!

I will make it my mission, if you vote to bail California out. But we have to have California.

Do we? Do we?

Do we really?

Honestly, I'm not -- I didn't sign up for a suicide pact. I moved to Texas for a reason.

I didn't -- I didn't want to be a part of the suicide.

Well, no. They're committing suicide. So we all have to. What kind of cult are you in?

My gosh. And -- and look at what the Democrats are doing. Look at what the left is doing.

The left is becoming so incredibly radical, you had in Newark. You had, what was her -- what was her name?

The congresswoman. I wrote it down. Congresswoman, shoot. Something.

La Monica MacGyver.

This week on MacGyver. We assault ICE agents in Newark, New Jersey. So MacGyver went out.

Congresswoman goes out. And is pretty clear.

Assaults these officers. And tries to storm in, as part of oversight.

That wasn't oversight. That wasn't oversight.

You know what it really was? Pray setup.

Because I want you to play the AOC comment from a couple of days ago. Where she commented on this. Because Homan says -- in fact, play Homan first. No one is above the law. Listen to this.

VOICE: Did you want the Congresswoman, who was caught on camera, assaulting ICE agents, to be arrested for that?

VOICE: No one is above the law. (inaudible). We put our lives on the line for you. Be smart. The safety and security of -- some of the worst -- you can't destroy the city. I said day one, you can not support ICE. You can support Century City. Shame on you. But don't cross that line.

GLENN: Okay. So the government, you know, now the government that is sane, at least is saying, look, I don't care who you are. Right, left, pink, purple, black, white. It doesn't matter. You assault a police officer, you go to jail. But that's just something I've always grown up with.

STU: What about January 6th, Beck? January 6th. You didn't like those people go to jail.

GLENN: Yeah. I will have another conversation with you, about the rule of law and due process. But that's for a different time.

Now, what are they doing?

Now AOC comes out with this warming.

VOICE: And now what DHS is trying to say. Again, they're using public intimidation. Because they know they can't come for us all. Then know they can't come for us all. And recently, what they said is that DHS is looking into arresting members of Congress. Who are showing up for their legal and constitutional obligation to conduct oversight.

If is breaking the law in this situation. It's not members of Congress.

It's the Department of Home Security.

It's people like Tom Homan, and Secretary Kristi Noem.

You lay a finger on someone -- on Representative Homan on representative -- or any of the representatives that were here, you lay a finger on them, we are going to have a problem. Because the people who are breaking the law. Are the people who are not abiding by it.

GLENN: Oh.

VOICE: And it is enshrined in the law, that members of Congress, who show up to ICE and CBP facilities are required to be granted access. Legally required to be granted access. And they legally cannot be inhibited from accessing these facilities, to conduct their constitutional obligation, to -- to investment and conduct oversight.

So if Kristi Noem wants to break the law.

That's on her.

GLENN: Okay.

STU: How can anyone take this person seriously?

GLENN: I know. I know.

STU: They just did a poll. Who was the face of the Democratic Party? She was number one. This complete moron, bartender from five years ago.

GLENN: Her.

STU: Is the face of the party now. Which, I mean, is perfectly just.

GLENN: It's reasonable.

STU: It should be.

GLENN: If you've been watching the Democratic Party, it's reasonable that she would be the leader now.

They're socialist. They're stupid. They're nothing, but activists.

They're nothing, but chosen puppets. For I don't know who is pulling all the strings on the democratic party. But that's who she is. She's just a little puppet. She's just a little chosen puppet. Hey. You know what, bartender, we can make you a star.

And we have that all backed up. We did a show on her, early on.

How she was selected.

How she was elected. I mean, she was selected. She's a little puppet.

It makes total sense. That she's the face of the Democratic Party.

THE GLENN BECK PODCAST

Undercover FBI Agent Battled a DEMONIC Underworld | Scott Payne | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 257

“There are a lot of people out there who just don’t know how evil the world can be,” says Scott Payne, a retired undercover FBI agent who spent his career infiltrating violent motorcycle gangs and white supremacist groups. After growing up in a Christian home, he briefly fell into Satan worship until an encounter with a real demon sent him running back to his Baptist church. But that wasn’t his only face-off with a dark underworld in a career marked by burning Bibles, lighting crosses, and sacrificing goats, while undercover with the KKK and a new strain of young white supremacist chaos agents known as “accelerationists.” He and Glenn discuss George Floyd, Gretchen Whitmer's kidnapping, Aleksandr Dugin, and the humanitarian costs of an open U.S.-Mexico border. Scott reveals the connection between gangs, cults, extremism, and even radical jihad but says he remains an optimist through it all thanks to his family, the prayers of his wife, and his relationship with Jesus. In a time when so many don’t trust law enforcement or the FBI, Glenn asks Scott, “Is the FBI good or bad?” You’ll have to decide for yourself.

Ben & Jerry’s Ben Busted Protesting RFK Jr.

“Ben & Jerry’s” co-founder Ben Cohen was recently arrested while protesting Health & Human Services Secretary RFK Jr. during a congressional hearing. Oh the irony that the ice cream man is heckling the guy who’s trying to make America healthy! But even more ironic is he’s heckling someone who probably AGREES with him on many things! Glenn and Stu discuss why leftists have turned on fellow liberals like RFJ Jr. who have joined the Trump administration and whether conservatives should also keep an eye out.

Transcript

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GLENN: So Ben Cohen. Do you know who Ben Cohen is from Ben & Jerry's?

STU: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: Okay. He was removed yesterday from the hearing with Robert F. Kennedy about 15 minutes into the hearing.

You have it? Go ahead. Go ahead. There's that. The -- love that he's the face of ice cream. There he is.

VOICE: Members of the audience.

GLENN: And he is eventually removed. There he is. He's saying, Congress! Congress pays for bombs! Congress pays for bombs! They kill people.

VOICE: Members of the audience! Reminded, disruptions will not be permitted while the committee conducts its business. County police are asked to remove the individuals from the hearing room.

GLENN: That's -- I mean, let me have some ice cream right now. Let me get some of that. You know --

STU: So bizarre.

GLENN: So bizarre.

STU: And he's protesting RFK Jr. Who would be completely aligned with him, I think on this issue.

GLENN: Yes. On that issue. On a lot of issues. You know what, they just took some things out, because RFK is forcing them to take it out of their ice cream.

Ben & Jerry's stuff in their ice cream, that's not healthy for you according to RFK. That's -- I mean, that's amazing.

STU: Ice cream, typically not seen as a healthy food.

GLENN: No. No. No.

STU: Generally speaking.

GLENN: But their rocky road Rockefeller. With just a little bit of petroleum in it. Might have been a little bit too much. Might have been too much.

STU: You know, then you can choose not to eat it.

That's a wonderful thing you can do.

It's just strange the alignments here.

GLENN: I know.

STU: Did I -- this may be a fever dream, honestly, at this point.

I'm out on a limb with this.

But did Ben and Jerry go on with Tucker recently?

Is this a thing that occurred? People are saying yes. It's amazing the conversations that are happening on there right now.

I mean, like, look, it's good that you should be able to talk to people.

I'm sure Tucker does not agree with most of what Ben believes of Ben & Jerry's.

GLENN: Was Ben and Jerry on?

STU: I think it was only Ben.

GLENN: That's like having the cat from Tom and Jerry.

I don't know which one was the cat. Which one was the mouse?

STU: I think Tom was the cat, and Jerry was the mouse. So you want to have both the cat and mouse at the same time?

GLENN: Yeah, they're a team really.

STU: We'll get with their movie department.

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GLENN: Right now, SCOTUS is listening to arguments on birthright citizenship. The focus really is on the judge's power to block policies nationwide. That's got to stop. That just has to stop. But we'll see what the Supreme Court has to say.

STU: That's really the focus too. It's really not about birthright citizenship. From what I'm understanding. It's more about injunctions.

GLENN: Yeah. And it will be very narrow, on the injunctions, I think.

STU: Really?

GLENN: Yeah. So we'll see. We'll see.

So welcome to the program. We're glad you're here. You know who is not here? Is Ben and Jerry.

STU: He's here in my heart. By that way, I mean the calcium buildup from all the heart disease I've seen from the company, over the years. Yeah. He's not here.

He was at that big hearing.

It's difficult to understand where anyone is anymore.

I feel like, this was easier back in the day.

Like, you can kind of -- heard Ben and Jerry, you knew, left. It was easy, right?

GLENN: Right. Right.

STU: Now --

GLENN: I miss the days when we could just put labels on people. It was easy.

STU: It was easy. It made things a little easier to keep track of.

You know, like some people would label anti-Semite, for example, on Ben and Jerry.

Over the years. That was a label that I thought was interesting.

You know, but it's -- he's now opposing RFK who, I mean --

GLENN: I think it's probably on Ben & Jerry's side on many things.

STU: On almost everything.

Right? There is some things RFK has obviously changed now, when it comes to the woke stuff.

Some of the censorship stuff.

Although, I think -- it could be wrong on this.

Ben might be one of those old school socialist types. That might even agree with us on some of the censorship stuff.

Maybe. Because part of the socialist movement in the United States, was kind of built on --

GLENN: Was.

STU: Right. Was built on the operation to the McCarthyism.

And so there was -- there's some ideological.

GLENN: Right. They were for that, when they were the ones being shut up.

Now that they're not the ones being told to shut up.

They are like, we have every right to tell you to shut up. Okay.

STU: Yeah. Let me ask you this though. Because he's also been embraced by some parts of the right.

And -- and, you know, like Tucker did an interview with him. That's not an embrace. You can talk to whoever you want to talk to. Right? There's nothing wrong with that. We've talked to people on the far, far left. Even much farther left, crazier than even Ben or Jerry over the years. I -- no problem with that.

As a journalist, you should do that. You know, Tucker talked to Vladimir Putin, right? So did Megan Kelly.

GLENN: Yeah, I would talk to America's biggest enemies.

STU: Yeah. How else do you know what held them up? You would ask tough questions. I'm sure Tucker did in the interview. But we are -- I've noticed this thing that we're doing.

And I'm a little concerned. Let me see if I can articulate this.

GLENN: Are you?

STU: Us on the right, the conservative side of the spectrum, find someone who has some crossover with us.

In some way. But is really a figure of the left. Okay?

And we kind of give -- saying, hey, come on over. We have got this thing. It's wonderful!

And then they sort of become part of the movement, and that's totally fine. Like, let me give you an example. Tulsi Gabbard.

I really like Tulsi Gabbard.

She's been on the show a bunch of times. She's in the administration right now. She's great. so this is not a criticism.

I'm glad Tulsi Gabbard has had this awakening over the years. I'm excited about that. But so she comes over. She's -- you know, she supported Bernie Sanders. Ran the Sander's campaign in Hawaii back in the day. Not that long ago.

But she's had a transition. She's come over, and obviously, in the Trump administration right now.

And so we look at that. And we say, hey. That's great. We brought someone from the left, over to our side.

And that's great, if that's what you're doing. If you're convincing someone on the left, to convert their ideas into something closer to your ideas.

That's a positive change. You're widening the tent in a way that we can all support.

But really, what Tulsi is doing, in the government right now, is she's being consistent with her old left-wing views on things like, you know, stopping wars and not -- you know, and being tough on intelligence issues in the government.

GLENN: Yeah. Because we woke up on that.

STU: Well, because we've changed.

GLENN: Right.

STU: And that's what I'm getting to here. What seems to be happening, is we're embracing things on the left. And it's not us changing their views into ours. It's us changing our views into theirs. And then embracing some of those people.

That's not necessarily bad if we were wrong the whole time. Right?

GLENN: Yeah, I don't think we were on the endless wars.

STU: Yeah. I mean, some of that I agree with. Right?

The phrasing of it, and maybe the -- the scope of it, maybe I'm not fully there. But generally speaking, I think, you know, we've definitely overstepped our bounds at times.

GLENN: A lot of times.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: I don't think that's improper to say.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: But, again, I look at the way that Trump handles it. And it's different than what Tulsi's vision of this is.

GLENN: Oh, no.

STU: Trump is tough on Iran.

GLENN: I think Trump is Ronald Reagan. I'll pound you into the sand. I will turn your sand into glass. Don't screw with us. But then he's like, we're buddies right now. So you don't want to be buddies? We'll be buddies.

STU: For example, this: His Syria move, I think, is fascinating. And I think -- I think the right move. I'm not 100 percent sure.

GLENN: Me too. I'm not 100 percent on anything.

STU: But like, I think it's worth taking a stab on this.

It's a new regime. The guy used to be literally in al-Qaeda. Okay?

GLENN: I know.

STU: However, maybe he's changed.

I think the chances of it are low. But why not pull that lottery ticket?

Because the downside is what we already had.

So give a shot. Give the guy a handshake. Say, hey, we will drop these sanctions. We're going to give you a chance to not turn yourself into the old regime.

GLENN: I think that's --

STU: I think that's the right approach.

GLENN: Nobody is ever turned by lectures.

STU: Yeah. Or like opponent's lectures in particular.

GLENN: Right. You turn people through love and understanding. And giving them the benefit of the doubt.

Until they prove you wrong.

STU: It's a great point.

And I think it ties back to my previous. The way we started this conversation.

Which is, a lot of people in our movement, are being won over to previous left-wing positions by new friends. And that is not bad, in and of itself.

But we've done it a lot lately.

And I'm concerned.

GLENN: So because I changed. Not because of Tulsi.

STU: No. But the movement has changed.

GLENN: The reason I liked Tulsi at first. Was I like the fact, that she was willing to stand up to her own machine. And say, no. You guys are wrong.

You guys are going down this fascistic route.

And I won't go there with you. You are changing all the rules.

You are not who you said you were.

That's why I originally liked her. Because she would take on her own people.

And that takes courage. So it shows you something about her character. Then when you get to know her, you realize, oh, we might disagree on taxes and everything else. But she loves the country. She loves and reveres the Constitution of the United States.

STU: Yep.

GLENN: If I could get you on the Bill of Rights, we don't have any differences too big to not be able to bridge.

STU: And, again, I don't think Tulsi is a problem.

GLENN: No. I don't.

STU: That's not what I'm saying.

But, you know, you have -- let's -- Tulsi is in DNI. You have RFK Jr. HHS. It's a big one. You know, you look at the way RFK approaches -- I mean, he -- I mean, he is awfully close to someone who -- like a Michael Bloomberg on public health issues.

This is something we -- now, he was kind of a Republican in New York at one point.

Obviously, it was something that I know we oppose. The audience loudly opposes, when he was trying to control what you eat. I think there's some differences.

I'm not saying there aren't any.

But, you know, going after food companies. And changing the way -- that's a change for -- if that's what the right is. That is a change for the right.

We were always in favor of people making their own choices. And having companies being able to produce the products within some guidelines.

GLENN: Yeah. As long as they're not killing people.

STU: Right. There are guidelines. There are guardrails, of course, to all of this.

But generally speaking, ours were wide. The left's were small. And now we've taken, the guy who was the voice of the left's view on those. RFK Jr. and put him in charge of the right's view of it.

Is that a good thing?

Maybe it's great. Maybe he's been completely right this whole time, and we should have been approaching things that way.

GLENN: I think if our society was not getting sicker and sicker and sicker. Then --

STU: There's reasons for all of this stuff.

GLENN: Right.

STU: But we should notice those things.

You know, he's a really -- I think big example of that. Because that is -- it's a massive change to the way that we've -- we've done these things.

Another one is trade. Peter Navarro ran as a Democrat over and over and over and over again.

On these trade whys.

Now, Donald Trump has been consists with these ideas since the day he was in the public eye.

GLENN: There's nobody who has been more outspoken on antitrade, up until recently, than me. And you.

You're still outspoken on it.

I think -- I think we have to give it a shot.

Because we're behind the eight ball here.

GLENN: Yeah. I don't like the policy.

I don't agree.

But again. It's separate from whether each individual one of these is right.

There's a lot of these.

And over time, I think, you can knowledge.

It will add up to a completely different formula.

It might be the right thing for us to do.

But we should notice each one of these changes, I think.

GLENN: And I think you're right on that.

But isn't this the same as -- I mean, you're not the same guy I met 30 years ago.

STU: Totally, we all change.

GLENN: We all change. And that's good. And we should notice when we change. Because we learn from. Wait. Why did I just change?

Did I change for the right reasons? Did something happen to me?

Is somebody around me, changing this? You do -- we do have to pay attention to the change.

But I think change is good.

STU: It can be.

You know --

GLENN: If it's -- if it's well thought out.

If it is still built on principles.

And evolving understanding. Not of truth.

But how to get to the truth. Like, I -- for instance, the foreign war thing.

I just know, right now. What we've been doing is not working. It's not going to make the world safer. Ever. Ever. Ever.

It's not.

STU: Sometimes, it has. Obviously, in previous wars. But, yes. I --

GLENN: The meddling of everybody.

STU: You can't control everybody.

GLENN: It just won't work.

And it's making things worse.

Now, pulling all the way back, and saying, you know what, we don't -- you know, we don't want to be involved in the rest of the world.

That doesn't sound good to me.

STU: Yeah. That's what Trump is doing.

GLENN: Right. But it might be the right thing.

I just know -- I know for sure, what we had been doing, doesn't work.

And I really believed in what we were doing.

Well, I believed in what I thought we were doing.

You know what I mean?

STU: For sure.

GLENN: And so we have to make changes. And changes in almost everything.

And as long as it's logical.

As long as you have really thought things out. As long as you're not just conforming.

You know, the really scary thing is when people begin to conform, for any other reason, other than logic.

I've reasoned this out. I've asked critical questions.

And I am sorry, I would love more information that might change me out of this position.

But this is where I find myself at.

And even if I'm uncomfortable, I have to stand here. Because this is my current understanding of what's best.

You know, and as long as you keep an open mind. And you're constantly seeking to have a better understanding, of deeper truths.

Then I think -- I think you're fine.

But, you know, one of the things we're going to face, especially with AI.

All of a sudden, we're going to conform.

Because Google would give you page after page after page after page of different information.

ChatGPT gives you one answer. And you just assume it's right.

They don't give you anything --

STU: That's got to be a fascinating development in our society.

GLENN: And it's already there.

STU: Oh, it totally is.

GLENN: You Googled, and you had to look at different things and everything else.

This is one answer. And I know it's right, because it came from AI. Very dangerous.

Comey’s “8647” Threat to Trump Unmasked

Former FBI Director James Comey has caused a controversy by posting a picture of seashells on a beach, arranged into the number “8647.” Many have interpreted the message as a threat against President Trump. But did Comey know that it could be interpreted as a call to “86,” or assassinate, the 47th president? Or is his claim believable that he had no idea “86” could mean something violent? Glenn started off his radio program by giving Comey the benefit of the doubt, but a comment from Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard made him change his mind: “I don’t give him a break.”

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Now, maybe we as babies can figure out 8647.

Now, I don't know, Stu, if you saw the James Comey tweets yesterday.

STU: Yes, I did. Well, I mean, when you say, his tweets. He took a picture of it.

A shell formation, that he found on the beach.

GLENN: He was just walking by.

STU: And shells in the sand.

GLENN: Unbelievable!

I mean, I'm sorry. But I'm not a baby with my little innocent eyes.

There's no evidence -- we should -- there's no way that that's -- that he just stumbled across that. And he was like, oh, this is a cool sea shell formation.

I don't really know what it means. It's political of something.

So I will put it up on Instagram.

STU: That's obviously not true.

GLENN: That's what he said!

STU: Well, it kind of played it off that way. He said, oh, look what I found. Like either he did it himself, which is the most likely.

GLENN: No, no, no. But he came back.

Can somebody find the response?

Because he came back later, and reposted on it. Said, yeah. I posted early a picture of some shells, I saw today on the beach walk, which I just assumed was a political message.

I didn't realize some folks associate those numbers with violence. It never occurred to me, but I oppose violence of any kind.

So I took the post down.

So he's saying, I just stumbled across this.

I took a picture of it.

STU: Right.

GLENN: The baby was an actual formation.

I mean, he knows somebody did it.

But I knew it had to have some political meaning.

Do you post something that you know has some political meaning?

Without saying, does anybody know what this means?

I mean, you didn't even post it, and say that.

STU: It's a very bad idea. Particularly if you happen to be the former head of the FBI.

GLENN: FBI! So he doesn't know what 86 means.

STU: Okay. We should set that up.
You know, I could walk you through this, Glenn.

As a former proud veteran of Chili's, where 86 means like you don't want cheese on the burger. That normally comes with cheese.

You're like the burger, 86 cheese.

Meaning, you killed the cheese off the burger.

Now, it also could mean, remove the choose.

I don't know that it's --

GLENN: Right. It has several --

STU: Always violent.

GLENN: It has several meanings. Eighty-six the cheese.

Which means get rid of the cheese. But it also has roots, back during the bootleg time.

Now, I've heard this story.

I looked for it. I couldn't find it anywhere.

I heard this story from somebody who was a wandering historian of New York.

And I don't remember what place it is.

But it had -- it was a bootleg club.

And during problems. And it was on a block.

And the basement went the entire city block.

Okay?

And so it was bootlegs and gambling underneath. And the cops only knew about the front entrance.

And so they would say, 86 it!

It's the cops. Which meant, the address on the other side, was 86.

So it meant, use that door!

Get out. Use that door.

Don't go through the front door. Eighty-six. It's the cops.

STU: Interesting.

GLENN: Okay?

So get out. When the soda

GLENN: And that takes on a whole different meaning today, doesn't it?

Soda jerk used to mean people in the drugstores that would pull the fountain down. And it would be called a soda jerk, and they had their own lingo. They had shoot one, draw one. They had shoot one in red.

You should know this.

If you're going up to a soda jerk. Shoot one in red. What does that mean?

STU: I don't know.

GLENN: It means, give me the Coke, but I want cherry Coke.

Shoot one in red. Okay? So they would pull the soda, and they would pour cherry soda in.

So echo was a repeat order.

And 86 meant, we're all out of it. Okay?

So it's, get out. Vacate.

We're all out, or kill the cheese.

Okay? So those are the meanings. But if I'm on the beach and I say -- and I see 8647, and I'm the former FBI director. I'm like, what does -- I know what 47 means. What does 86 mean?

STU: Of course, Trump 47 of the United States.

GLENN: Of course it does.

STU: Now, adding on to this, you're not only the FBI director, former -- you're, of course, an opponent of the president, who has been pretty clear over the years.

Also, I don't know if anyone notices. That president has almost been killed multiple times recently.

GLENN: Right.

STU: Right. So there's an added thing where you have to be really careful around this particular person, who took a bullet on stage.

And almost got killed with his golf club. Right?

GLENN: I mean, look at how delicate we are today!

And the left used to be so -- on the Kennedys with Robert F. Kennedy. Robert F. Kennedy.

I mean, I don't know if there's, you know, somebody out trying to kill him. I just assume this is a Kennedy. All Kennedys, somebody is out there to kill them.

STU: It does seem that way.

GLENN: It does seem that way, but you would never say 86 RFK. You would never -- just because we're decent people, but when it comes to Donald Trump. And I'll bet you now, with RFK too, it wouldn't be bad to say 86 RFK, in some circles.

They would be fine with killing them.

STU: Well, first of all, yes.

It's probably true in some circles. There's an entire Hamas wing of the party.

GLENN: But I mean American. American, you know, leftist circles.

They don't care. Ends justify the means.

STU: They're awful people.

I will say, it's possible, that he didn't mean that in that way.

GLENN: No. It could have been get out of 47.

STU: I want him out of office.

I'm sure, it will be his defense. I mean, one of the other things that's the new left-wing past time.

GLENN: As you're talking, I just can't. I can't look at you now. Because I always see you as a baby.

STU: I have very innocent eyes.

GLENN: I just want to gobble your cheeks up.

STU: That's why I'm eating more.

Get those cheeks up nice and plump.

The new left-wing pastime on Twitter today and on social media is to search for all of the conservatives, that did tweet, 8646 at some point during the Biden presidency.

GLENN: They weren't the former FBI director!

STU: It's a very fair point.

That's why -- I've never seen 8647.

Never seen that.

STU: I haven't seen it either. Apparently, people didn't post it during that term.

GLENN: Okay. But who are they? Look, we all have the crazy person that lives on our street.

Growing up, oh, he's the crazy Jim down the street. Kids, stay away from crazy Jim.

We all had the neighbor who was like, you know what, and I'll tell you what else is happening right now, that nobody knows. And you're like, okay.
All right.

STU: There are some conservative influencers, that just didn't like Biden. That tweeted it.

Not wanting him dead, but wanting him -- probably removed from office.

GLENN: Removed.

STU: All that being said, none of them, as you point out, were people who were the former FBI director.

Number one. None of them also were talking about a president that had almost been assassinated multiple times recently.

Right?

I mean, those two areas, I think are a massive distinction. Particularly, the first one.

I mean, even if, you know, the -- the -- someone had tried to assassinate. God forbid, we hope that they never do.

Joe Biden. When he was in office.

And you tweeted that after -- I mean, it will be insensitive. And probably a really bad idea.

GLENN: Yes. And a waste of time.

Almost redundant.

STU: Yeah. Just wait --

GLENN: He's almost.

STU: Yeah. He is -- his health isn't particularly strong, as you know.

However, beyond that, being the director of the FBI, means that you are constantly processing a stream of threats against the executive.

GLENN: Yes. Yes.

STU: And the fact that you would be in there, thinking that's appropriate. Knowing that obviously what 86 could mean. It doesn't necessarily mean that. But it could mean that.

GLENN: Honestly, when I saw it. I didn't think he meant kill him. I thought he was saying, get him out. Get him out.

That's what 86 means to me.

So cancel him, whatever.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: However, again, when you're the FBI. Former FBI director. You have a little more responsibility.

STU: It's massively irresponsible. And he should just come out and apologize for it.

GLENN: And not saying I randomly saw these shells. They washed up on the beach like that. I guess. I don't know who did it. And I thought it might be political, so I posted it.

Nobody believes that!

STU: Yeah, another thing is, if you're the former FBI director, maybe never post anything on social media.

I don't know. Do something that is supposed to be important.

I just don't understand people with this nonsense.

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Ten-second station ID.
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GLENN: Here's Tulsi Gabbard.

VOICE: Are you buying that the former FBI director didn't know what 86 Trump meant?

VOICE: Absolutely not, Jesse.

That is a ridiculous and insane statement to make. Certainly, within this context, but especially coming from a guy, who is the former director of the FBI.

A guy who spent most of his career prosecuting mobsters, and gangsters.

People who know and execute other humans, and use this exact lingo of 86.

This is the guy who is issuing a hit on President Trump. The president that the American people voted for.

We the American people cannot take this lightly.

Whatever your politics. We cannot allow people to get by without being held accountable, for this kind of public call to assassinate the president of the United States.

The rule of law says, people like him, who issued direct threats against the president of the United States, essentially issuing a call to assassinate him, must be held accountable under the law.

GLENN: You know, I never -- stop, stop. Stop.

You know, you know, I never -- she's not only beautiful, she talk pretty too.

I never thought of it that way.

He's a guy that has been prosecuting gangsters.

And they do say, hey, Nikki no eyes.

I think needs to be eighty-sixed, you know what I mean?

That is the language of assassination in the mob.

And this guy has spent his whole life prosecuting the mob.

I take back what I say, where I thought. He just probably thought. No!

He's at least smart enough to know, that in some circles, that does mean kill!

And you would never do that! You would never, ever, ever, ever do that.

I wouldn't. Would you?

If you knew something meant, in some powerful circles, kill that person.

STU: Of course not. Of course not.

GLENN: Right. Right. But it has innocent verbiage if you were a soda jerk.

STU: Yeah. It does. It does.

GLENN: It does. But if you're the FBI director and you're not working, prosecuting soda.

GLENN: But the people who know what 86 means. I don't -- I guess -- you know what, she's right.

I don't give him a break.

I don't give him a break.

I was giving him a break just a few minutes ago.

But I think Tulsi is right.