RADIOSeptember 20, 2022

Democrat Party 'BECAME A RELIGION': How Biden LOST her vote

Sasha Stone "devoted [her] entire life" to the Democrat Party. But after voting for President Biden and realizing that he didn't return America to the "normal" she longed for, she has found herself somewhere she never thought she'd be: on the Glenn Beck Program. Stone, the author of the new piece, "How Joe Biden Lost My Vote," describes to Glenn the moment the Democrat Party became a "religion," what she learned from watching Trump rallies, and why she has "never seen anything like" the Left's "dehumanization" of Trump supporters: "I see the cult more on the Left than on the Right."

Transcript

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GLENN: Sasha Stone is with us now.

Sasha, how are you?

SASHA: Oh, I'm fine. Hi. Is this Glenn? Am I speaking with Glenn Beck? Wow.

GLENN: Probably something you never thought would do.

SASHA: Absolutely never something I thought I would do. But I am familiar with your thoughts and on certain things. I've watched you -- your interviews with different people, over the year.

GLENN: Yeah.

So, Sasha, you were -- you've been a diehard Democrat. Obama, Clinton, and -- and Joe Biden, right? You made videos about Joe Biden, trying to get him elected.

SASHA: Yes. I mean, I want to tell you, I devoted my entire life, unfortunately to this life. Whole years have disappeared from my life.

And as you get older, you really need that time. You need it back, and you can't get it back. So I guess I thought I was on some sort of crusade, spending every single day arguing on Twitter and Facebook and writing blistering pieces for Medium.

And I really did think I was on the right side, and I -- and I felt the same sense of purpose, that I think a lot of people on the left felt after Obama rose to power in 2008.

I think it just -- that's when it became. I know you're interested, in talking about religions and stuff like that. I think that's really the moment that it became a religion.

GLENN: Hmm.

I would agree with you. What -- what was it, that you voted for, with Joe Biden and you think your friends voted for with Joe Biden?

ALEX: Well, for me, it was strategic partly. But also I had an emotional connection to him, somehow. I had over the years. I don't know where it came from.

But I -- I liked him.

He reminded me of my dad. And I thought he was a good guy. But, you know, you have to remember, on our side. We actually -- it's weird that people with so much power and wealth, dominate almost every institution, would feel like they're the ones who are besieged.

You know, that they're the oppressed side. But I think that's definitely what we convinced ourselves, that we were stopping Hitler.

And I believe that Joe Biden was the only one that could do it.

But I did get a lot of heat from my -- my friends who didn't think Biden was the guy.

And I feel sort of somewhat guilty about that. That I didn't see it. I thought, he'll win. That will be fine. And everything will be -- everything will be back to, quote, unquote, normal in America. And what that meant, was rolling back the forward motion of this country, to the Obama administration. To the Obama era. I think that's what everybody was thinking. But what I've learned in the past few years, is you can't go back. You know, you have to keep moving forward. There's no other option, really. You try to hold on to the past, you just will be selling things that people are no longer interested in. But wouldn't that be -- that's what Joe Biden says he's selling. And Barack Obama is part of the plan here. And moving his vision forward. Isn't that what he did?

SASHA: Yeah. Absolutely. And I think that's the problem. They are so desperately trying to cling to the utopia that we've all built. That they lost site of most Americans. The reality of most Americans. The reality that most Americans have changed. The world has changed. The left has changed. And I don't think they see that. They're just desperate to hold on to the path. And I think they see it as -- and I've started to see it, the fight between Obama's America and Trump's America. Which is a little like the -- the moment that, you know, back in the 60s, when they were switching from JFK, to Nixon. Nixon was sort of like the disrupter.

And then eventually, that moved to Reagan in 1980, and then the whole pendulum shifted to the right.

I think that's where we are right now. We're in that struggle phase of the disrupter that's breaking up the status quo. As the pendulum is starting to swing to the right. But it will be a while before we get there. And it might not get there, if the Democrats hold on to power. They're not going to let that happen.

GLENN: This is -- I'm sure we disagree still on a lot of stuff. You wouldn't consider yourself a conservative? You're just a -- a traditional liberal, I'm guessing?

SASHA: Well, I am in sort of a strange place. I was telling one of my best friends. Because my friends basically no longer speak to me. Most of them don't. Because we don't really have anything to talk about.

GLENN: Yeah.

SASHA: But I kept saying no. And all this time, my policies haven't changed in my mind. The one area where my mind has changed a little bit is abortion. I used to be one of those people, you know.

But I've seen the other side of it. I've seen things from the perspective of the right now. And I understand why this is something they've been fighting for decades, you know. So I do struggle with these things. I find myself of an in between place. I'm not really sure where I would go politically, you know -- I live in California, so it doesn't really matter anyway.

It's such a Deep Blue state, that my vote is meaningless.

You know, so I don't have to -- like, if I lived in Pennsylvania or Arizona, you know, honestly, I'm pretty sure, it would be just voting red.

I voted for the recall. And I voted for Larry Elder for that. So, you know, I'm just one of those independents that is going to take every election. And decide on the spot.

No. I'm not a traditional conservative. The way that you are, for instance.

GLENN: Yeah.

SASHA: You know, I don't have that sort of sense of purpose, I think, that a lot of people on the right have.

GLENN: Yeah. So what was it, that broke the camel's back?

SASHA: Well, I'm not really sure what happened in my brain, that changed the way I followed the world. But I know it happened in 2020. I know it happened once the protests and the riots broke out. And watching the media cover it up. And change the story and the narrative. And then as we headed into the election, I just kept seeing how there was an administrative state, that was taking over the Democratic process. That's how I saw it anyway.

And I was sort of blown away, by that. I had never seen it like that, before. But there was so much money and power, bringing down a duly elected president, that they didn't like.

GLENN: But you didn't like Donald Trump. Or did you is this?

SASHA: Well, that was the hard thing. And the weird thing. Is that when I decided, to -- you know, you -- you talk about this a lot, actually, Glenn.

Which is the dehumanization of whole groups of people, that is reminiscent of Nazi Germany. And I felt, when I was on Twitter, I was part of that.

And it gave me a chill, that I was dehumanizing a whole group of people. And I thought, where does this end? Where does all of this hatred every single go?

You know, they think the right is the side with the hate. But they're not. It's the left.

And so I started -- it's been my way of trying to get to know this world. I began watching Trump rallies. And I watched all -- still to this day, I've seen every single Trump rally. You know, looking for that smoking gun that would say, yes. He's a terrible racist, fascist, selling hate. But I didn't see that with Trump. In fact, it's hard to watch him not like him. Because he's charming and charismatic. And funny.

GLENN: Funny. People that really hate him. And they've missed a really good time. On his rallies. He's funny. He's very funny.

SASHA: He was really funny. And it was more than that. I was in such a dark place. And the only -- nobody believes me on this. But the only moments of joy I had, was watching those rallies. Everybody was happy. Kind of like the people of Whoville, when the Grinch has taken away all their toys. And Christmas trees. And everything. And he's waiting to watch them suffer.

But they don't. They're happy. And I was watching this -- and then I started to look forward to his rallies.

Okay. Let's see this. The music would start. And he would come out, and it was just a love fest. Of people who had hope, that he gave them hope. And I didn't see the cult. You know, I see the cult more on the left, than I do on the right. And people don't know this about Trump. But he makes a lot of jokes at his own expense.

And -- and, you know, when I explain this to people, like the one where he says, the guy -- one of the governors, or something, plucked a hair off his head. And he said, and we went looking for that hair. Because he couldn't refuse to lose one hair. But he's always making jokes at his own expense. Jokes about his vanity. And he's funny.

GLENN: So hang on. But you watched all of these. And yet, you voted and made videos about Joe Biden. Right?

SASHA: No. I mean, I had done all that before. I was on the Biden train. Yeah. In 2019. And as I was heading into the 2019 election. I was talking to my friends. I had two friends that were Trump haters.

They won't even speaking to me about Trump. They call him evil. His supporters must be terminated, and stuff like that. I said, you know what the word exterminate was used for, don't you? In regards to people.

And that did shut them up for a minute. But they really -- they're so full of hate, I've never seen anything like this, in my entire life, honestly.

That kind of dehumanization. So what I kept saying, I'm not so sure about Biden. I don't think he should be president.

And what's the alternative?

Trump was way worse. And I said, I don't know. I'm seeing this sort of bizarre new religion that's overtaking the left. And he's going to usher that into government, and that's really dangerous. And he's old. I mean, not old, as that's a bad thing. But I could say see that he was declining. You know, since I saw him at a luncheon in 2019.

He was already starting to decline mentally. And I had seen my dad go through dementia I can't a year before. And I was recognizing a lot of the same downward patterns that my dad went through. And they just shut me down.

And, honestly, Glenn, to tell you the truth, I do have a business that I run that is a Hollywood business.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

SASHA: No. I'm just saying, I'm flirting with disaster here. If I had voted for Trump, let's say. My career would be -- I wouldn't make another time, ever. If they ever found out, right? So I didn't vote for Trump. Vote for Biden, and I did it for that reason, honestly. And I don't know where I am politically. I have to just do some soul searching to really figure that out. Because I don't really know at the moment.

GLENN: All right. Hang on. How much time do we have with you, Sasha?

SASHA: As much time as you would like.

GLENN: Okay. Good. Yeah, I would like to see if we could get another 20-plus minutes out of you if you don't mind, if you've got that time.
SASHA: No, that's fine.

GLENN: Back in just a second. One minute and back to Sasha Stone.

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GLENN: So, boy. You are in a nasty predicament. You are in California. Your business is tied to Hollywood. God bless you.

SASHA: Uh-huh yep.

GLENN: But you're not shy about things now. You have a great Substack.

SASHA: Thank you.

GLENN: And you wrote an article, how Joe Biden lost my vote.

And it was -- it was heartening to see somebody that had taken their own education, and decided, this might take me places, I don't want to go. But I want to know the truth. Is that how you would describe what you did?

SASHA: Yeah. That's an absolutely brilliant way of describing it. You know, that is where -- that is where my mind has taken me. It's taken me down a lot of rabbit holes over the years. Watergate. The Salem witch hunt trials. World War II. I'm a fanatic for that.

And, you know, when I find that something doesn't seem quite right. You know, I have to sort of investigate it. And I feel like, that the truth matters to me. This is what I've found now in my life. Is that that matters more than just about everything, except for my daughter probably. Maybe my dogs. But it matters, you know, that we see the truth. That we can speak the truth. That I can speak the truth. I grew up in a country. You know, the left was always the counterculture. So we were encouraged to speak the truth, always.

And now I'm being asked to modify my version. You know, to believe a lie. A lot of lies about people.

And I feel like, the only thing that really matters to me right now, is giving some relief to the other half of the country. To the people who are being treated so terribly.

On almost every level. You know, once I started to get to know this world. I began watching documentaries. And the Oscar race. Because that's what I read about, the Oscars. And I just noticed, how they reflected only one point of view. And how limiting that was for them. They can't tell the story of the working man, anymore. Like they used to be able to. Because the working man is most likely going to be a Trump supporter.

GLENN: And you never saw that, when you were in the bubble.

SASHA: No. And that was the weird thing. Is when I realized I was in a bubble. I kept trying to tell people, I can't talk to you, I'm in the bubble. They thought I was a lunatic. They thought I lost my mind.

I sounded crazy to them. And, you know, I've thought about it a lot. I've been online for 28 years. I was an early adopter. Got online in 1994. Built a website in 1999. So I know the internet well.

And I have to conclude, that a lot of this has to do with how we migrated on to social media. And become -- you know, in our own little eco systems. Where, you know, on Twitter, they only get news that they want to hear. So it distorts their thinking.

That's why I had to cut off the news completely. Because even if I watch one news story on the left. They can completely persuade me, to think about something a different way. But it's one thing if you're getting that in a different way. And deciding for yourself. And it's another thing when you're only watching the one version. And I just found that honestly, the more critical thinkers. The more intelligent thinkers. Oh, this is so terrible to say. But they're on the right now. They're not on the left anymore. The left has become a movement that they believe they have all the answers now. And the answers are found in ranking people by race and gender, not by class or economics. And --

GLENN: Or by character.

SASHA: Or by character, right! Even though, if you go into the Trump world, you will see it's incredibly diversity. It's not just white people. And that's the next piece I'm about to right. Is about that. Because I think it's such a crazy thing to watch them stereotype and characterize people, that doesn't align with reality.

Aussie discovers what Americans REALLY think about the 2024 election

Rebel News reporter Avi Yemini has been traveling America and asking voters about top issues this election season with Donald Trump and Kamala Harris at the top of the polls: the economy, abortion, transgenderism, Israel/Gaza, and more. He tells Glenn that "the mood is CLEARLY Trump" and the economy is a major issue. So, is this a good sign for Trump supporters? Avi also describes something else he noticed about America: The liberal cities seem to have A LOT more homelessness and drug abuse problems.

You can follow Avi's journey at http://AviAcrossAmerica.com

Transcript

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GLENN: Avi Yemini. He is a Rebel News reporter from Australia.

Is this -- this is not your first time. Yeah. Okay.

AVI: I've been here before.

GLENN: So you're traveling. Where did you start?

AVI: So we started in San Fran. That's the idea. Started in San Fran, in like Kamala. The place that represented -- everything she represents.

GLENN: Right.

AVI: And we will end in Miami. So we've done a fair bit. This is a great, large country.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know. I know.

You have a large continent. A very large country.

But not a lot of people. Not a lot of people.

AVI: No. No. And I'll tell you this. I probably traveled now more than in America, than Australia.

I've never gone in an RV around Australia.

GLENN: Is there a gas station somewhere in the middle of Australia where you could --

AVI: I've gone to outback Australia to report on some of the crime stuff that was happening in Alice Spring, in the middle of Australia. So you can get to places. But you have long drives of nothing.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. Beautiful, beautiful country though.

What are you finding so far?

You're halfway through your trip. You're here in Texas. What are you finding along the way? What are people actually feeling and saying?

AVI: Look, people keep asking me in Australia. Especially like, what are you predicting?

Look, if I'm going by the mood, the mood is clearly Trump! Because I'm seeing people that are saying, you know, you have your Trumpers. You have your Republicans. They're fine. Most of them are proud to say it.

Then you have the people that kind of -- the whole issue is about the last four years being just tough. I was a registered Democrat. I am a Democrat. I've always voted Democrat.

And they -- and then you have the -- the -- the Democrats that say, they're voting Democrat, but they -- they are like, we're going to lose.

And then you have the diehard Democrats that are like, no, Kamala is way ahead.

GLENN: Yeah. So do you find -- you know, there's always this suppressed Trump voter that doesn't want to say.

I think that's becoming less and less of a factor now, you know. People -- the people, God bless them.

That six years ago, were wearing the MAGA hats.

Were just like on suicide missions.

You would see them.

Like the guy is wearing a red hat. He's crazy.

But now, people are -- don't have that feeling. Is there still the suppress Trump, and do you think that there is a suppressed Trump supporter in some that are saying, they're for Kamala. They just don't want anybody to know.

SCOTT: I was actually surprised a bit.

I think in San Antonio. Not San Antonio. San --

GLENN: Los Angeles. San Francisco. San Diego.

AVI: San Diego. Yeah. In San Diego, I was surprised, because there was -- what I noticed, when you say, you know, closet Trumpers. The way you work it out.

Okay. You don't want -- I asked people what they're voting.

They said, I would rather not say and whatever.

And then I go, so what are the kind of issues that bother you? And then it's the answers about, the last four years have been -- they're essentially saying, have been horrible -- it was easier before. So you know who they're voting for, they just don't understand want to say it out loud.

I tell them, what are you worried about?

And some of them say, depends on which way this will play. We don't know. I've got family. I've got friends. I've got this.

But I've actually had really interesting interactions. In Texas. In Waco, Texas. We haven't published it yet.

We have this website.

Where we're publishing everything.

We haven't produced it yet. But we bumped into a couple.

What I'm asking. In fact, everywhere I go, I try to think of something unique to the place. And Texas, I was reading some reports, that there are Democrats that think that Texas will flip from, you know -- red to blue.

GLENN: Oh, yeah. Red to blue.

AVI: So there was that question. And I read a local writer that was saying, if Trump succeeds in deporting all the illegal immigrants, the economy in Texas is going to crash. That was --

GLENN: That's craziness.

AVI: That's my question. I don't want to hear it from media pundits. I want to hear it from -- from other persons. Mind you.

I was expecting a lot more cowboys here.

GLENN: I know for him.

AVI: I'm really disappointed.

GLENN: I know. I have friends that fly into the state. And they're like, where are all the cows?

Good Lord, it's not Texas 1874.

AVI: It was Ozzie hunting the streets in Texas, looking for cowboys. I'm like the crocodile hunter. Just more cowboy hunting.

GLENN: Right.

AVI: Anyway, and he was -- he was a Kamala. He was like a left-wing young guy. He was 38 or something.

And -- and then they kind of broke out into this argument. And I kind of stepped back and just played the mic, because she was clearly a Trumper.

She was making all the arguments, that you would hear, but that I see online. Play out.

It was playing out in real life, in front of me. Between a couple, which I -- I hope to God, that -- together.

But I say the term.

GLENN: What was he saying?

AVI: So he got to the point.

Digress to Black Lives Matter.

He was making all the arguments. Those were great.

She was like, I was working in a coffee stop shop.

There were terrorists that were -- it went through everything.

He labeled her a conspiracy theorist.

He said, that you can't have -- you know, I'm not going to vote for a side, that waives Nazi flags at rallies.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

I can tell you right now. That's not going to last.

AVI: She said, why are you calling me a Nazi?

Not you. For me, it was the most compelling kind of interview, which I -- you know, I -- I really -- and stopped interviewing. Because they were just doing the work for me.

GLENN: Yeah.

AVI: And I think it also just demonstrates what's happening across this country.

I think that's really what's going on.

I hope actually they stay together.

GLENN: Were they married?

AVI: They've been seeing each other. Clearly. I'm someone that looks at that. And I hope that they can.

Because I -- can I come from a family. I'm one of 17 children.

GLENN: Seventeen!

AVI: Yes.

GLENN: Your mother was tired.

AVI: My mother is tired. She will never babysit. She says, I have done my time, she tells me.

GLENN: Yes. Yes.

AVI: But in our family, we have wide-ranging -- I've got what I consider far left-wing brothers and siblings. And then I have some that are -- that might consider me far right.

There are some that are more conservative than me.

And I think interestingly enough, the silver lining of October 7th in our family. And probably for a lot of people, actually we realize that we're all family. Yeah, those political enemies don't matter. There's a greater enemy. And they want us all dead.

But I would love to see that, not only for America, but for the world. That you can actually have opposing views. And talk about them. I agree with you. I don't know if that will last. Because he was jumping on.

It was almost the personal -- he had to skip over his partner.

GLENN: As a man who married at 19, and politics did not play a role at all, and her politics were much, really almost Hillary Clinton. It doesn't -- it didn't --

AVI: It's not possible.

GLENN: Yeah, it doesn't work. If you're both strong-willed and strong opinion, I mean, especially when it's -- if you're in a relationship trying to make it work, do everything you can to make it work. But it takes both of you wanting it to work. But if you're dating somebody, God bless you. But why put yourself through. When somebody is calling your philosophy Nazi, I mean, that's nuts.

That's nuts.

Okay. Take me through a couple of these sound bites here.

What do we have?

Let me see here.

We have -- you catch a voter on her bad argument.

Using bad logic.

AVI: That was the most fun. I reckon that one.

GLENN: Okay. Let's go. Cut one, please.

VOICE: My sister is trans. And it's like when she -- when someone is talking about something that directly affects you. And they have no skin in the game. None. Nada, zero. You know, it's different.

AVI: How do you feel about Israel and Palestine?

GLENN: Hmm.

VOICE: I mean, I don't think the genocide in Gaza is good.

AVI: Did you have skin in the game?

VOICE: Well, that's like a little bit of a different issue though. We're talking about like the health --

AVI: No, no, I'm just trying to make the point here. So you're upset --

VOICE: You're talking about a foreign war, and I'm talking about people's health care.

AVI: I'm talking about people's lives. So my mother lives in Israel. My sister. My brother. You have a really strong opinion about Israel. I'm applying your same argument back at you. You don't know what you're talking about. You've got no skin in the game.

VOICE: I'm okay.

GLENN: She just walks away.

AVI: Okay. You see how that works? Funny how her logic only applies to her political foes. Imagine my shock.

STU: Great part about that, is there's just unrelated laughter at the perfect time in the video. Just laughing at her argument.

AVI: I only realized that when reading the comments. I didn't even hear her laugh.

STU: Oh, yeah. She was laughing at something totally separate in the background, but it was timed perfectly in your video.

GLENN: Might have been. What city was that in?

AVI: That was in Hollywood. That was Hollywood.

GLENN: Oh. You're a brave man.

Let's go to cut seven.

AVI: What threat to your community does Trump pose?

VOICE: Anti-trans. Anti-LGBTQ. Actually trying to reverse rights for women.

AVI: Rights for women?

VOICE: The right to control their body.

AVI: Because how would you define a woman?

VOICE: I would define a woman as anyone who says that they're a woman.

AVI: So abortion rights would not really be women. Because if somebody can't have --

VOICE: I mean, you can play a semantics games. I did say that anyone who has a uterus, to be able to.

GLENN: Hmm.

VOICE: You know, control their body.

AVI: So he's not really against women's rights. What's a woman?

VOICE: I don't want to argue that point.

GLENN: Love that. I absolutely love that. That's usually the way it goes. You know, you're so stupid, I don't want to argue with you anymore. You're like, uh-huh.

AVI: Yeah. I can't get away with that -- like you said, Australia is a tiny place. And everyone -- it might be small. But everyone kind of recognized me. They would just get angry.

Probably here. What I'm finding great about America. I can just have normal conversations. And I'm talking to everyone.

Those with two -- I'm talking to -- and I'm challenging everyone's kind of view. Because the idea of what we're trying to achieve here is that he would -- what actual Americans think.

GLENN: So are those on extreme ends.

And you're finding generally, our population to be, what?

At each other's throats. Civil War.

What?

AVI: I think a lot of people are nervous about what's happening. I think most people are more scared of the outcome of the election, really.

Like the average person is scared about their pocket.

They feel like the cost of living. And if it continues the way it's going.

We will be in all sorts of trouble. The other thing I've noticed.

GLENN: That's every election that has ever been in situations like this.

It's the economy, stupid.

It's always been.

AVI: The other thing that stood out. I have noticed.

And I remember seeing it from afar. Watching commentators here. But I saw it in -- I see it in real life.

Any time you go even to a liberal pocket within a Republican state. But a liberal state. Or a liberal pocket.

There's suddenly. Like explosion of homelessness.

Like drug use on the streets.

And I'm talking to the homeless people. I'm asking them, what is -- and most of them are coming there. And it's funny to see, even the mental gymnastics of the local liberals that are there.

I'm going, why is it? That when I'm going to a Republican city. Or a Republican town, area.

I don't see any of this.

And they go. Oh, no.

Because they'll give all sorts of different excuses.

This is a much safer space for them. You know, liberals are more giving.

So they're coming.

It's all -- they twist all these things to make it like they are good things.

And I'm like, then -- then is this the way you would want America to be?

Like, is this the vision you had for the rest of America?

On one hand, I complain about it. And they move to places like Texas.

But then they bring their policies.

And their politics with them.

Which I fear for places like Texas.

Because you think, it's like amazing. I've never seen -- I was saying this to our driver on the way.

The only other place I've seen such patriotism as in so many flags, proudly --

GLENN: Everywhere.

AVI: Is Israel. Israel and Texas. And it's beautiful. Because I think you need to be proud --
GLENN: I think so too.

That's why I'm trying to convince Donald Trump to build a Western wall, Northern wall, Eastern wall, and Southern wall around Texas, just to -- we don't want any Californians, New Yorkers. You know, we're fine. We're fine.

AVI: Can you fit one Australian?

GLENN: All right. I've got to tell you, Australia is the perfect prison. I think God designed it as a prison.

He's like, you know what, a place to put criminals and all of the creepy animals that kill you. We'll just put them all right here.

AVI: In COVID, it works.

GLENN: Yeah. Have you guys sobered up on that at all? Is the population going --

AVI: Everybody has forgotten.

GLENN: So nobody learned a lesson.

AVI: No. No. No.

GLENN: Oh, gee. Ami, thank you so much.

You can find all of this. At AviacrossAmerica.com. That's AviacrossAmerica.com.

EXPLAINED: Trump floats REPEALING the income tax and boosting THIS instead

Donald Trump recently suggested that he may push to end the income tax if he's elected president again. Will he actually do it? And will his plan of increasing tariffs to fund the government and bring back manufacturing jobs work? Glenn explains why he's getting more and more optimistic. Meanwhile, Kamala Harris and the Democrats are looking more and more desperate as they ramp up the "Trump is Hitler" rhetoric again. But Glenn explains why Trump is the worst "fascist" he has ever seen.

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GLENN: I have to tell you, I watched him last night. I mean, he is on it!

STU: No. I was told he's exhausted, Glenn. That's what I was told. Reliable sources like Kamala Harris told me. He's exhausted. This is a tough job.

He can't do this job. As if we didn't just witness you, make excuses for a guy for four years. Who actually was in that situation.

GLENN: Yeah. He is not. He is.

He is sharper than ever. And I don't say that. Because I see him backstage.

I see him in conferences. And he's sharper than ever. Trust me. And he's on stage going -- you can see it. This speech he gave last night, was so focused.

Honestly, there were times he was reading the teleprompter. I'm like, is he reading that off the teleprompter?

I've never said that.

He's usually on teleprompter. And another thing we'll do.

Then he'll go back and meander for a while. Then he'll come back to the teleprompter. He was fantastic last night.

And big vision. Optimistic, with the people.

I mean, totally right where people are, right now. He was --

STU: It's closing well.

GLENN: Game-changing stuff. If he can get in and do this stuff. Game-changing.

STU: And Rogan today.

GLENN: Good time to be on your game.

STU: I've often said, the best time Donald Trump has ever -- the best performance he's ever had campaigning was in the few weeks following the Access Hollywood tape. Because I think that shook him. And there was a moment of like, oh, my gosh. We'll lose this thing badly. And he was just buttoned up and rock solid for several weeks.

You know, he has his moments all the time. He has his strengths, obviously. As you point out, he can go off script and do his stuff. He's doing really well. Because they've put him in a position and he's decided to take a position, where he's going in and doing these podcast-type interviews.

And it's just -- it fits him, really well.

I mean, like, there's another world, where if Donald Trump doesn't decide, he wants to be president of the United States, he's just a big podcast person. That's a thing that absolutely could happen in this world.

Coming off the apprentice. A big real estate --

GLENN: Yes. I would highly recommend that, if he would lose. I would highly recommend that.

Just don't do it, at this time period. Please.

Anyway, or this country. You can do it at some other -- but, I mean, he is, he was finally someone saying, what the problems are. But not just saying the problems. Here's how we're going to fix it.

You know, when you listen to this speech last night from him, where he's talking about I -- I -- I think he's maybe even talking about no income tax.

STU: Yeah. Now, as a person who has a mug, and has been selling it for a couple of years. Repeal the 16th Amendment.

I mean, a particular fan of that particular policy. You should totally get rid of the income tax.

GLENN: Yeah. And it's almost. I mean, I think it's the right time.

Because he's talking about tariffs in a different way.

He's talking about tariffs. You build your cars, outside of the United States. Okay.

We're going to put a tariff on it. To keep cars that are made here in the United States.

Jeeper, we have to rebuild. This is the only time I think I've ever started to agree with tariffs.

We must rebuild our infrastructure. We have to have manufacturing here in America.

You know, people are under this illusion, that, oh, well, we did it before. You know, World War II. When America said sets their mind to it, they can anything.

What did we contribute to World War II? Manufacturing.

We made the planes and the Jeeps and the tanks and everything else. We made the trucks that brought the whole world into Germany. Okay?

That was our biggest contribution. We lost, what? 500,000 people? Russia lost 20 million soldiers. Okay?

We had the least on the table, as far as flesh and bone. We were important.

Don't get me wrong.

STU: Obviously.

GLENN: And everything those guys did.

Obviously. However, our biggest contribution was being able to turn manufacturing on and just produce a war machine.

Okay? We had nothing in '38. Nothing!

In '39 and '40, we started to get serious, because we were like, we're in trouble, and they started to tool.

'41, we were way behind Germany in manufacturing. We could not even keep up.

By '42, '43, I think we had almost doubled their output.

Because we had our own steel!

We had our own manufacturing plants!

All you had to do was start making this, instead of this!

Tariffs would bring jobs back, at this point, later in our life, we may not be able to do it.

But tariffs have a chance, of saying, look, you want to -- you want to sell your stuff.

Fine!

Make it in America. Big stuff.

Big manufacturing stuff.

Make it in America. We'll give you incentives to bring your company, your manufacturing here. So we have these plants.

We are producing our own steel. We're doing these things.

Meanwhile, we're also going to drill, baby, drill.

And as he said last night. Frac, frac, frac, frac, frac.

And so we will bring our energy costs down. I -- I think this is a game-changing moment. Game-changing.

STU: And I'm never going to be involved in tariffs like --

GLENN: I know. I'm not involved in tariffs either.

STU: But the size of the government that would be required for a government to be funded by tariffs is a size of a government that I like.

A lot smaller than the one we have. Does a lot fewer things. And I like that. So...

GLENN: Yes. Yes. And we were all about that, up until the 16th Amendment.

STU: Yeah. Look, get rid of that.

And it's a heck of a good step in the right direction. And I think it's also the right thing. I mean, there are really bad taxes out there.

Income tax is one of them.

GLENN: Yeah. The progressive income tax in particular.

I would go for -- I would just go for a flat tax. Everybody pays the same. We all have the same skin in the game.

STU: Yeah. And the payroll tax is another one.

Trump has talked about that before. Which is a regressive tax. Not even a progressive tax. A regressive tax.

Where people at the bottom of the income scale pay a higher percentage than those at the top, which again, you would think the progressives would be all over, but they want their money.

Anyway, you know, Trump has proposed a lot of these different tax cuts. And, look, until this election, I thought that was what everyone did in an election time. He finds out.

GLENN: But I think he's actually going to do a lot of these things.

STU: I mean, obviously, he's restricted by the -- the form of government we have.

GLENN: I know. If he has the Senate and the House.

I think we'll do a lot of this.

STU: That would be great. It certainly will not go the wrong direction for once. And that would be nice.

GLENN: If he can get half the stuff done, he says he will do, in four years.

And he has told me. Glenn, it won't be four years.

He we have 100 days. We have 100 days.

And he's right. He's got to New Jersey and go, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Take everybody's breath away.

Because he's got to turn it around. And turn it around quickly.

STU: And I think if his focus is, freeing people, to do with their money, what they want.

Rather than a centralized economic policy.

Which I don't think say good thing.

The more we industrialize economic strategy. We've seen this in country after country. That comes out poorly.

This is what Kamala Harris wants though.

She wants a House in Washington. Making the decisions for the entire country. And it's quite clear, that's not what Donald Trump wants. That's not to say, we can't find. I'm sure we can nitpick these policies. And find things we don't like.

But at the end of the day, here's a person who understands the American economy.

By the way, I don't know if anyone recognizes this. He was already president of the United States.

And things went really well.

GLENN: It's not like what it was in 2016.

We didn't know if he actually believed these things.

We didn't know. The only thing I knew for sure was tariffs.

STU: At some level, the border.

GLENN: And war. War.

GLENN: Being opposed to war.

STU: Those things, he's been consistent on.

GLENN: For like 40 years.

And those things, I knew he would do.

I didn't know the rest. I didn't believe the rest.

You know, I will make sure we recognize Israel. Uh-huh. Sure.

STU: Right. I didn't know if he would prioritize Israel.

GLENN: No way.

STU: I didn't know he would name Supreme Court justices that would overturn Roe vs. Wade. These are things that I would really -- I mean, not doubted, am somewhat sure he wouldn't do.

GLENN: Stu, I was positive.

STU: Yeah. But I think understandably. That's why I think too, you're seeing a real failure of what Harris and Walz are trying to do with this whole fascism, Hitler thing.

If in 2016, you have a guy, who is a businessman.

Who has never been in politics.

Who you don't necessarily. You can't necessarily lock down in all of his policies. You know, he's a guy who is most famous for saying you're fired to people over and over again!

GLENN: Right. Oh, I hope he becomes more famous soon.

STU: At some level in 2016, maybe you can convince some undecided people.

I don't know. Is this guy Hitler? I don't know?

GLENN:

HILARY: Was the guy. Here is the definition of fascism.

Hitler took the government, made it all regulations.

And then went to the companies, and said, I'm not going to put you out of business.

You just have to make what we want.

You have to make it how we want it.

And follow all these regulations. You can keep your company.

You can get rich.

He made public/private partnerships.

Well, that's not what Donald Trump is doing.

STU: Yeah. And I'll point out. I mean, if you want to look at the defining piece of domestic policy for Donald Trump, during his first term.

Probably, the easiest way to summarize it would be deregulation, right?

You could talk about the border.

Some of the stuff he got done. Some of it didn't.

Defining when it comes to domestic policy.

Probably is deregulation.

He did that all over the government. Adolf Hitler. Was he famous for reregulation? I'm pretty sure --

GLENN: Regulations he has.

I will completely stay out of everything!

No. He didn't say that.

STU: That was not his policy.

GLENN: We want privatized gas chambers.

What?

STU: It's dark. But it's funny. Because it's just like so inherently stupid.

I mean, a closing argument.

And I think like what -- I was thinking about this.

Because there's obviously -- a totally different strategy from the Harris campaign. Even the last couple of weeks.

Now we're going on TV all the time.

And he's Hitler.

No more joy.

It's like it's so bizarre.

And I wonder if partially.

Obviously, they know this isn't working.

Their strategy. Their piece of the argument behind the scenes is likely, there are no more undecided voters we can get. So just now charge our people.

I want the MSNBC viewer at the polls.

GLENN: Yes. That's exactly what's happening, and a setup for trouble after the election.

Election 2024: How the Global Elite Control What You See, Think, and Feel | Ep 388

We’re now less than two weeks away from a monumental election, and the media, Big Tech, and global elites — including British Labour Party members — are all working in overdrive to get Kamala Harris elected. This “propaganda industrial complex” is laying the groundwork for post-election censorship, but Glenn exposed it all in his new book, “Propaganda Wars.” In this episode of "Glenn TV," he reviews some of the highlights: Why are elites so obsessed with censorship? How far will they go to ensure that Donald Trump doesn’t win in November? And how can the average American learn to cut through the propaganda and find the TRUTH? Glenn also reviews some of the latest attacks on free speech, including the British-based Center for Countering Digital Hate’s targeting of X and Elon Musk and Kamala Harris’ terrifying use of the vice presidential office to compare Trump to Hitler. Plus, the co-author of “Propaganda Wars,” Justin Haskins, joins to ask a disturbing question: Will this election’s “October surprise” be a deepfake?

Exclusive: Former UK PM SLAMS Labour Party for possible US election interference

Around 100 staffers for the United Kingdom’s Labour Party are reportedly campaigning for Kamala Harris in America. Former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss joins The Glenn Beck Program with her reaction: "Who's paying for their airfare? For their accommodation? Has that been properly accounted for? Have the receipts been produced?" Because while their actions could be legal, this could become a case of foreign election interference, depending on the money trail. Plus, Truss comments on the leaked plans from the Center for Countering Digital Hate (which has ties to the current Prime Minister and the Kamala Harris campaign) to "kill Musk's Twitter": “It's why we need X. I mean, Elon Musk is effectively the leader of the opposition now in Britain.”

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GLENN: The former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Elizabeth. Or Liz Truss. Welcome, Liz. How are you?

LIZ: I'm very well. Great to be on the show, Glenn.

GLENN: Thank you. So I'm sorry. I just don't know.

Do we still call you Prime Minister?

GLENN: Not in person.

GLENN: Okay. Not in person.

So, you know -- I don't know if you remember this. But we met earlier this year.

And we exchanged a few words. But in listening to you speak and everything else, I thought, I -- this problem is bigger than any of us thought it was.

And it is deep, deep, deep in the structures of not only our country. But England, as well.

They're going in a different direction, than what they're telling people.

Is that. Did I read you right?

LIZ: That is absolutely right. It was only -- I've been a government minister for ten years. And it was only when I got into 10 Downing Street, that I understood the full-scale of what we were up against.

Because it isn't just the political parties.

It's not just the civil service.

The left, has successfully captured the institutions, in Britain.

And it is going to be a very, very big struggle.

To be able to change things here.

And, you know, we now have an even worse situation.

We have a socialist government.

GLENN: Yeah.

LIZ: They're trying to cancel free speech. They are trashing the British economy. People are leaving Britain. Millionaires are leaving Britain, at a faster rate than any other country in the world, at the moment.

GLENN: Jeez.

LIZ: So we're in a very, very difficult situation. And the -- the Labor Party, again, for free speech will be aware that they have attacked X. They have attacked Elon Musk repeatedly.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

LIZ: Because that is one of the few avenues where people are really hearing the truth and what is happening.

GLENN: So there is a story that was just released yesterday. Internal documents from the Center for Countering Digital Hate, whose founder is a British political operative, Morgan McSweeney, now advising the Kamala Harris campaign.

The internal plans show the group, in writing, plans to, quote, kill musk's Twitter, while strengthen as he does its ties with Biden/Harris administration and the Democrats, like Senator Amy Klobuchar, who has introduced multiple bills to regulate online misinformation.

So it is showing that something that is in your country. Started in your country.

Partly funded by us. And now brought into our administration.

Is actively working with our administration. And I would assume, in some ways, your administration.

Not yours. But, you know, the -- the administration of Great Britain. To silence speech.

We're -- our governments are in cahoots, doing really bad things. To the public.

Are they not?

LIZ: And just to be clear, Morgan McSweeney is now the chief of staff to the Prime Minister. So this man is incredibly senior within the party's administration. And there have been numerous public attacks on X, by the Prime Minister.

Now, I don't believe that he will succeed if he takes on Elon Musk.

But the mentality, isn't to have an honest discussion about what's happening in Britain.

The mentality is to try and quash any dissent, and stop people talking about the very real issues that are affecting us.

For example, the sheer scale of illegal immigration, into this country.

So we have a very worried government.

And I would be following the US elections. And comments by Hillary Clinton, comments by members of the Democrat campaign.

And it seems to be the same thing, going on. Not only are they putting in place, these disastrous policies, they're also trying to stop anybody from talking about them.

GLENN: I've been talking about this for a while. I've been trying to get people to understand. This is not about left versus right.

Democrats versus Republicans.

This is about elites. And against the people.

And the people know they're being lied to.

How can there be a problem throughout the entire West, of illegal immigration.

At the scale we've never seen ever before, in the history of the modern world. Paragraph and our press, in every single country, is treating it, exactly the same.

As are the administrations.

That doesn't -- that doesn't compute, it doesn't work out, mathematically, to be a coincidence.

JUSTIN: And you're right about the public.

The public understands there is a problem. They really are fed up with the mainstream media in Britain.

The not telling the truth about what's happening, and presenting things in a way that is very far from their real experiences. You started off, Glenn, by saying England is doing this to the US system. It's not England. The English people.

The British people are --

GLENN: Are with us.

LIZ: Very much concerned about illegal immigration.

GLENN: Yes, I know.

LIZ: It's the -- it's the Labor Party. It's the media elites. It's the corporatists, and it's the civil service and the bureaucracy, which does not want to learn.

GLENN: So how much of a role did this play in the destruction of Donald Trump and you?

LIZ: What happened to me was the Bank of England, were -- and they've admitted this since. Were responsible for the market turmoil that took place in October 2022.

But the British media, adopted the narrative that it was my fault.

So they took the narrative, from the Labor Party, from the Bank of England.

And they simply repeated it. And they repeated it to this day.

Even though the Bank of England put out an official report. Saying two-thirds of it was their fault.

Ask what I think is changed about the media.

It's no longer a neutral arbiter. It is pushing a particular narrative. And a particular agenda.

And I see the same about Donald Trump.

If you look at what CNN puts out, they are not interested, in what the truth of the situation is.

You know, even the reporting of, you know, President Trump's visit to McDonald's.

I mean, it just was some ludicrous. Ludicrous media commentary on that.

And I think it is a massive problem.

And it's why we need very strong independent media here in Britain.

It's why we need X.

I mean, Elon Musk is effectively the leader of the opposition now in Britain.

That is the situation we're in.

GLENN: Yeah. He is in Brazil.

He is really all over the world.

He is -- and I don't think he could do it, if he wasn't the richest man in the world.

But he is truly the last gatekeeper. If he goes down, there is -- there is no gatekeeper, in power, currently today, that will keep the gate of freedom of speech, alive.

That's a little terrifying.

LIZ: That's right. And in the United States, you have the First Amendment. We don't have that in Britain.

GLENN: I know.

LIZ: We're in a worst position for the protection of freedom of speech.

And we have seen people very recently jailed, for things that they have put on social media.

GLENN: Yeah. They've gotten.

LIZ: These may not be wise things that are put on social media, but there are other people who are being let out of jail who have committed --

GLENN: I know. I saw a story from England that was a pedophile, got less time than somebody who said something stupid on social media.

That person, they threw the key away. But person who was a pedophile, didn't have the same kind of sentence at all. That's madness!

LIZ: It is madness. What has happened is that our judiciary is no longer accountable. It's no longer accountable the way it was.

And this goes right back to the 2000s.

And it was the government that took away the accountability from our judiciary. And they outsourced so many decisions that used to be made by politicians.

Have now been out sourced to the bureaucracy.

And they are not accountable to anyone.

Not accountable to anyone.

GLENN: Yeah. Exactly what he did here.

So are you optimistic that because this is such an octopus. That, quite honestly, has the -- the intellectual power of the world. At the universities.

Has the money of the corporations. The power of the state. The power of the media.

This is going to be really hard to kill. This is a hydra. Are you -- are you optimistic that the people can win all around the world?

LIZ: The number one thing is the people are on our side. And they are becoming increasingly frustrated. And you saw that in Britain, of the last election, where it was the lowest proportion of the electorate voted for the two main parties because they are so frustrated.

That whoever they vote for, into office, they get the same policies. Because the bureaucrats are still there. So the people are on our side.

And that is our big strength.

It's going to be very important that Donald Trump wins the election, in the United States.

I hear good things, Glenn.

You're closer to the ground than me.

But this is vital.

And it isn't just vital to America. It's vital to the west overall. Because I can imagine what a Kamala Harris presidency will do for things like freedom of speech.

And it is not pretty.

GLENN: Especially in collusion with Starmer in England.

Great Britain. That's terrifying.

JUSTIN: That's right!

GLENN: Can I ask you, the Labor Party is doing something that is apparently legal here in the United States, as long as there's no money changing hands.

I would like to see anybody from Great Britain come and knock on doors in Texas.

They wouldn't really be welcome.

But you have 100 people from the labor party.

Socialist Party now. Coming over to the United States, and helping Kamala Harris, not only through advising. But actually, on the street, working for her campaign.

I've never seen that before. Have you?

LIZ: No. And given the rumination that they're bringing to Britain, I don't know why any American would think, that is what they want, in the United States.

Our energy prices are four times your energy prices because of our net zero agenda. Because we're not doing fracking. These are the kinds of policies, these people are advocating.

So I don't think any American, would want to listen to them.

I think there's a question though, these people who are coming over.

Who is paying for their airfares?

Who is paying for their accommodation?

Has that been properly accounted for? Have the receipts been produced?

Those are the questions I would be asking.

GLENN: If the Republican Party or the Democratic Party came over and did the same thing, how would -- how would the people of Great Britain react?

LIZ: Well, it would be. It would be a problem for the -- because under our electoral law, you have to be a British citizen.

GLENN: Yeah.

LIZ: To donate to the campaign.

GLENN: Right.

LIZ: And if the Americans have flown over. Who is paying for their flights?

That would count towards election expenses, and it would be classified as a foreign donation, which is illegal.