RADIOMay 23, 2022

EXPOSED: New W.H.O. health treaty could END U.S. sovereignty

The World Health Organization wants to expand its global control, and President Biden is helping them along the way. On Sunday, the World Health Assembly (the governing body of The W.H.O.) will meet to discuss potential changes to its ‘pandemic treaty’ that could END U.S. sovereignty during health emergencies. Daniel Horowitz, writer for TheBlaze, joins Glenn to detail how this treaty could result in the W.H.O. telling Americans how to respond during crises WITHOUT the approval of our elected officials. Plus, it seems President Biden is completely onboard?!

Transcript

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GLENN: All right. I want to bring in Daniel Horowitz. Because Daniel, you have -- you have done a lot of work on this. And you've -- you've started this years ago.

But you really have boiled this down to what's happening next week.

Daniel Horowitz. Writer for TheBlaze.

And Conservative Review. Daniel, tell me what's happening here.

DANIEL: Well, great to be back with you. And I'll say, it's worse than having our national sovereignty aggregated. It's really our bodily sovereignty, typically these international treaties would affect the sovereignty of our nation. This will affect our bodies. Because the wheel started to churn in the minds of those behind this entire covid regime. The great reset. Over the last year. While the people are really acquiescing to this pretty easily. But they were a little perturbed. That you had Sweden. Florida. You had some areas, doing their own recalling.

So their goal is to create a pandemic treaty, that will synchronize, and consolidate, the control you should these authorities. Where they can basically lock you down. They can force therapeutics on you. You know, you're a public health threat. This is what you need to do. We're going to declare your region, a public health emergency.

And we can do anything we want.

Now, they were working on that for a while. And I was always wondering where the Biden administration was. Because, you know, it was important.

They were awfully quiet. Well, it turns out, that they quietly submitted amendments to the 2005, international health regulation, in January.

No press conference. No press release on the whitehouse.gov website.

GLENN: We sent them. Our White House sent them.

DANIEL: Yes. They sent them. And you can see the strike-throughs. And basically, the upshot of it is it takes away the determination of the states. The Secretary General shall, instead of may do this.

Take -- took out all the consultations requirements with the states. So we didn't even know about this, until a few weeks ago.

And they're going to submit it, at this conference. And like you said, the reason they're doing this, is because Biden knows, he doesn't have 57 votes for a treaty. So like everything else they do, rather than a treaty, a law, really, everything they did throughout covid. You do it executively. So they'll have a de facto treaty, without calling it that. And that's the way they plan on getting this passed. And look, Biden already claims to have the support of Canada and most of Europe.

GLENN: So this is -- this puts the WHO in charge of really any kind of pandemic. Any kind of traumatic event, anywhere in the world.

They're calling the shots. Not our local or our national people. But the WHO. Correct?

DANIEL: Well, in pain English, China. And I think you can't discuss this WHO effort in a vacuum, without noticing, last week, the Biden administration held this, what he called the global covid summit.

And the summation of everything that was said on that Zoom get-together, was essentially, there is a worse pandemic coming in the fall and winter. Now, how they would know that, is kind of interesting.

But I think we should take them seriously, that they might know something that you and I don't.

And they seem to be indicating. That, you know what, maybe covid wasn't quite that bad. But this will be really bad.

Now, think about how a Wuhan gas lit the world to respond in the way they did. And now you have a whole new level of Shanghai, and then now they're saying, there's going to be an even worse pandemic, that perhaps should engender a need for even more severely lockdowns like we're seeing in Shanghai. That was a --

GLENN: Are they saying that's coming next winter?

DANIEL: This coming fall/winter. Yes.

GLENN: Because the treaty. The changes kick in, in November. You know, they don't kick in right away. You have to wait until next fall. Right around election time, when they kick in.

DANIEL: So the way -- the way I understand it, is that under the current rules, a party could rescind their support. A state actor could rescind their support for the state regulations, within 18 months. So the amendments would truncate that period, to six months. Which, as you know, is designed to basically correlate with the lame duck session of Congress.

GLENN: Wow.

DANIEL: Or maybe it will be after the election. But before the new Congress is sworn in.

GLENN: How bad -- on a scale of one to ten. Because everything is on fire right now. It seems like. And, you know, you can only pay attention to so much. Scale of one to ten. Ten being holy cow, Constitution is on fire. We're all going to die. Look, it's a mountain ahead of us. Pull up.

And one being eh. Where is this?

DANIEL: You know, Glenn, I would say, where we're headed is a 15. It's something we've never imagined.

And I'm not saying it's the WHO provisions in a vacuum. It's what they represent. And what they're trying to accomplish.

GLENN: Yes. Yes.

DANIEL: A lot of people are under the false impression that it's over with. Covid is over with. The lockdowns are over with. We're never going back to that. If you understand the background behind this, which a lot of this we don't have all the information. But we have our decisions. They ain't done with it. They're not.

And I think if you put yourself in their shoes, they were pretty successful. I mean, they walked in without firing a shot. They did not have much opposition. You even had a lot of the red states. And they fell for a lot of this. To this day, the FDA announced they're approving a third shot. But not just approving. But marketing, distributing a third shot for five to 11-year-olds. Mainly the red states that stood up and said, we're not doing this. I think Florida recommends against it. But I don't see too many Republicans speaking out.

So I don't think we have undone this. We have not immunized ourselves, through state Constitutional amendments, and other efforts, from this happening ever again.

So in the -- the reason why I say the 15th, in a text. It's like, oh, they're going to tax us. They're going to regulate us. They're going to take away our national sovereignty.

This, they quite literally view us as lab rats, in their new global design.

GLENN: Yes.

DANIEL: And I think there's no limit on what they plan on doing.

GLENN: It's so frightening. Because they all love, the chief adviser to Klaus Schwab. You all know Harari. And if anybody knows who he is. He is a favorite futurist of everybody on the left. They love this guy.

And he has said, you know, globalist elites will use crisis to bring about global government. But he says it in a good way. He says, look, it's going to be a crisis. And, you know, we can program people. And, you know, he is -- he is terrifying. Terrifying. On the things that he believes. That would be put into our bodies.

And it's not just the WHO. You know, you have the -- what is the other -- the other one that is -- the bio diversity.

The -- yeah. The global treaty auto bio diversity. That is also taking all kinds of -- of powers, from states.

Global bio diversity framework, is what they -- is what they're talking about.

And this one is going to be -- you know, they're going to have a new convention, on this. And this one will all be about land use. It will have huge implications on food production. Farming. Property rights. All of it. All of it.

And I believe it will cause, what Mao saw, in, you know, the 1960s. Late 1950s. You know, just massive starvation.

This is really bad. Because they're putting these things into these global treaties. And who is going to enforce them? Do you think our military will enforce things like this?

Or will -- dare to send troops here.

DANIEL: You know, Glenn, the sky is the limit. And until a couple years ago, I would have laughed this off. I would have laughed off the comments of Klaus Schwab.

Yeah. There are some crazies out there. But they don't have any power. But I think after the past two years, we need to take this very seriously. Because they did succeed. I can't remember the name of the survivor of the Cambodia. The killing -- did an interview on that. At the time, a couple days ago. And he noted, that the way communism took root, is the same guide to these arsonists and the firefighter. And that's what they think to do, they think these catalyzing event with the pandemic. I mean, it clearly was not natural. Who and exactly what did it, we're still finding out. But it wasn't until. It wasn't a one in 100 natural event. So, in other words, there's nothing stopping a new pandemic from coming. And then you have all the supply chain shortages. The sudden issues with the baby formula. Land use issues, as you mentioned. Bill Gates and the Chinese buying up American land. All of this is tightening the noose around us, on the vital things we need to survive. Then you throw into the mix, the maniacal war on treating covid. Which you would think, if you're a big covid hawk, you have to treat that thing.

No. They were against that. And to this day, they were against treating it. That all paints a very concerning picture. And I think, you know, I -- I speak to a lot of Republicans and state legislators, they tell me a lot of their leadership wants to move on from this. But I think you need them to preemptively pass resolutions, that these things are unenforceful. We're not going to do it. We're going to pass state constitutional amendments codifying, you know, rights to life, liberty, and property in a time of public health emergency.

GLENN: You know, the crazy thing is, Daniel, is that you can't get states to really understand ESG, which the banks are now going to states, and saying, your state will fall under ESG rules for loans from us. And they still don't really understand the threat.

When you start talking about, you know, one global government from the WHO.

Everybody is going to laugh that off.

And I honestly believe, that's part of the deal. I mean, they have made conspiracy theory, into, you know, hey. Did you hear that Coke is on sale at the store?

Oh, he's a conspiracy theorist. I mean, he everything is a conspiracy theory right now. Everything.

DANIEL: Exactly. But, you know what, I'm going to take them at their word this time. I didn't pay attention last decades. Retrospectively, we've been going back, and seeing, oh, my gosh, they've been wording with certitude. There's going to be a pandemic under the Trump administration.

It's interesting, how they knew that. Well, this time, how can I take them seriously?

Bill Gates just came out with their new book, on how to defeat the next pandemic. So when you have the arsonists. And the firefighters, we definitely need to pay attention.

We need to get out ahead.

And you mentioned the banks. And I think one of the biggest threats that we need to understand, is that a lot of conservatives have this Reagan era nostalgia about the private sector. Well, the private sector was a bulwark against tyranny, when it was distinguished. And separate from the government.

GLENN: Exactly right.

DANIEL: But now that it's actually become one entity, it's worse than pure traditional communism. Because I can't vote out the heads of Pfizer, and the heads of the bank.

GLENN: Yep.

DANIEL: And you can't campaign against them and go to a legislative hearings and expose them. They're all behind the -- the wall.

So, you know, all these red states where sometimes they have these Republicans. Well, we're reluctant to fighting this budding fascism. Because I don't like telling the private sector what to do.

When they're only doing it at the behest of the federal government. You have not -- as a state, to interpose on behalf of the liberty of the people.

GLENN: I want to give you something from the UN biodiversity Framework Council. It's being sold as the next Paris Climate Agreement. Except, it will focus on biodiversity, land use, not climate change. It will have huge implications on food production, farming, property rights. Also carries with it the potential to cause mass starvation and a loss of human life on a scale we have not seen.

Nations and large businesses recently met in Geneva to continue to work on the global biodiversity framework. The hope it will be approved and signed by countries later this year in China. And according to the World Economic Forum, the meeting in Geneva was the first time at the United Nations Convention on biological diversity, meaning that leading businesses turned out in force. According to the World Economic Forum, Unilever, gee. They don't make anything, do they?

Citi. Natura & Company. H&M Group. Walmart. IKEA. Nestle. Also, the International Chamber of Commerce. The World Business Council, on sustainable development. There are more than 1100 companies, with revenues of more than $5 trillion, that have signed on to this.

This is extraordinarily dangerous. You -- you -- Daniel is right. Everything has to happen at the state level. Everything.

Please, please, if you are a state official. Wherever you're hearing my voice. Please do not take my word for it.

Read about it, yourself.

This is a coordinated thing. All being driven to the end of capitalism. The end of sovereignty. Individual sovereignty. Your sovereignty of your body. The American dream is over! Unless these things are fought.

And taken seriously. You can start with my book, The Great Reset. It's available wherever books are found. What was the name of your book? Came out a few years ago, Daniel. That talked about this.

DANIEL: Stolen Sovereignty.

GLENN: Yeah. Stolen Sovereignty. Get that by Daniel Horowitz. Daniel, thank you so much. Obviously, you'll be paying attention next week to the WHO. Just keep us informed of what's going on, will you?

DANIEL: Absolutely. Will be vigilant. And thank you for having me. God bless.

GLENN: God bless.

Secret Docs Reveal the ENTIRE Deep State Network | Glenn TV | Ep 451

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Why Trump is RIGHT to take back DC

President Trump is cracking down on crime in Washington, DC, and Glenn Beck believes it’s a “brilliant” move. Glenn explains why Trump is taking action, whether it’s legal, and what he believes it says to the world.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: So the president yesterday, taking control of our Capitol back. And he said this, cut three. Listen.

DONALD: My father always used to tell me. I had a wonderful father. Very smart. And he used to say: Son, when you walk into a restaurant and you see a dirty front door, don't go in. Because if the front door is dirty, the kitchen is dirty also. Same thing with the Capitol. If our Capitol is dirty, our whole country is dirty, and they don't respect us.

GLENN: It's absolutely true.

This is the broken windows theory. You know what that is? The broken windows theory is something that Rudy Giuliani used to turn the country around. And that theory is, no one, no one, picks up a rock or can or bottle or anything, that's in a nice neighborhood that's clean and everything else.

You don't pick up a rock and break a window. However, if you're in a neighborhood where there is a lot of broken windows and everything is broken down, the average person is much more likely to pick up a rock and throw it through a window.

Why? Because the entire neighborhood says, we don't care.

So what Rudy Giuliani did, was he used this theory, and he cleaned up the -- he cleaned up the subways by doing a couple of things.

First thing he did, was he made sure, that if you were jumping the turnstile, for the -- for the subway, you were stopped right there.

Before, people just weren't paying a fair, they were just jumping a turnstile.

And nobody was doing anything about it.

He says, no one was crossing that turnstile. Now, what is it?

Is it a dollar to ride the subway? No one rides it for free. And so he put police, right there.

And they stopped you, and arrested you, if you were jumping the turnstile.

The second thing is, was he stopped the graffiti. He said, I don't care if they have to be repainted every single day.

When those things pull into the station, at night. If we get there in the morning, and they've been spray-painted, I want them all painted again, and then they go out.

Everything had been covered in graffiti.

And when he changed those two things, all of a sudden, the attitude, of the subway, it became safe again.

Because it was sending a signal to the bad guys and to the good guys, we care. We're not going to let this happen, anymore.

So what he's saying here, about dirty doorstep, means a dirty kitchen. It's absolutely true.

You ever gone into a restaurant. Gone into their bathroom. And you're like, oh, boy.

Oh, God.

I can't eat now.

Because if the -- the bathroom for the customer is like that. What is their kitchen like, where the customer never sees it. That's what he's doing, and he has the absolute right to do it. He's got 30 days, before he has to bring Congress into it.

This is the -- back in 1973, Congress passed this Home Rule Act. And they didn't have a mayor. They didn't have a city council. They didn't have any of these things.

This has been from the beginning of our country, the Founders wanted the District of Columbia, to be a district that is a federal district, run by the federal government. Not by local rile.

And in 1973, they started that. And it was all just to get them to be declared a state. First a city with a mayor. Then we should have power to elect the president of the United States.

Yada. Yada. Yada.

This has not been worked. This has been an experiment that has not worked at all. So he can deploy the National Guard for law enforcement, because there is no governor of DC. He can use it for emergencies, crowd control, and to execute federal laws. However, he just declared an emergency.

Now, under the Home Rule Act, he can assume control of the Metro PD, which he didn't, for up to 48 hours, during special conditions of emergency.
And that time period can be extended.

But he -- what he's doing here, is he's using these 30 days, hoping that the home rules act is going to be revealed. Only Congress can reveal that. But there's movement to reveal it now. And if Congress appeals the home rule act.

Then this nonsense in the District of Columbia is over. And if anyone tells you, you know what, the crime status are going down.

To what?

To what?

Even if they went down to 2019 standards, is that good enough?

I mean, it is still more dangerous than walking around in Bogota, Colombia.

It is twice as dangerous as walking around in Islamabad!

I don't know. I don't think that's really a good thing.

And, by the way, they changed the way -- you're a stat person. Did you read this about the stats.

PAT: Playing with them.

GLENN: Oh, my God. Playing with them.

Felony assault is not considered a violent crime now in their crime stats. Not assault. Felony assault. Felony means usually prison is -- is tied to that.

STU: Yeah. Not just some easy misdemeanor, where you get your hand slapped.

GLENN: Felony assault.

STU: Yeah. If you're not going to include that, it's hard to even take that seriously.

But your point is more crucial to this, than even the statistical games.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: Because they keep -- they keep bragging they're getting it back to 2019 levels, or maybe a tick below. That's not good.

GLENN: No. It's not.

STU: What you're saying is acceptable is not acceptable.

That's the message from the White House.

I would love to see it.

And we're seeing it so far. I would love to see the Democrats try to win that battle those rules.

If what you're trying to tell me, because we were there for the inauguration.

GLENN: Police everywhere.

STU: Of course that was -- police everywhere -- it's a totally different --

GLENN: But I had a guy threaten my life, and not for political reasons. Just because I think he was batcrap crazy.

STU: Yeah. Yeah. Right. I mean, a lot of sane people threatened your life on a regular basis. Crazy.

GLENN: This is a nutjob.

STU: Yeah. But, like, unless you're at the mall, during the day, it's -- and even there, can get sketchy at times.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

STU: You feel it.

GLENN: You feel it. You feel it.

STU: You want to stay inside your hotel room.

GLENN: And, you know what, everybody knows this. Washington Post. There -- this is a story on how safe the city is.

This is a safe city, but overhearing witness game threats and then watching the camera footage of the thuggery is disturbing, said one resident.

Speaking on the condition of anonymity, over --

STU: Anonymity, over concerns of personal safety.

GLENN: Yes. Anonymity, over concerns of personal safety. So I don't want my name in the paper, because I'm afraid of the thugs finding out who I am, and killing me. But it's perfectly safe. Oh, my gosh!

STU: Everyone knows this! Anyone who has ever been to DC. You know it, by walking around.
Weird crap happens to you. People approach you, in threatening ways.

GLENN: You know, Rikki told me just a few minutes ago, our executive producer. She said, last time I was in DC. And she lived in DC for many, many years. She said, I was in my old neighborhood.
She said, I used to walk at 2 o'clock in the morning.
I never had a problem with that. She said, I went to this restaurant. And I was there with a friend.

And I had gone there a million times.

She says, it's in the middle of the day. Within just a few minutes, she's sitting on a patio outside, some huge guy, she said, 300 pounds, at least 6 feet, comes up and says, I'm going to kill you. And starts threatening her and her life.

They call the cops. It takes them 15 minutes. She's not far from the Capitol. Fifteen minutes to get there. And then they don't do anything about it.

He -- she's like, anybody who says, this isn't happening, has just never been there. Here's an ABC anchor. Now, remember, their whole spin is, this was fascism.

There's no -- it's a safe city. Listen to this ABC anchor. Listen to this. Cut one.

We've been talking so much about the numbers, and usually that's how you play devil's advocate. You talk about, oh, well, stats say crime is down.

However, I can tell you firsthand here in downtown DC, where we were, right here around our bureau, just in the past six months, you know, there were two people shot. One person died. Literally two blocks down here from the bureau.

It was within the last two years, that I actually was jumped, walking just two blocks down from here. And then just this morning, one of my coworkers said her car was stolen, a block away from the bureau. So we can talk about the numbers, going down. But crime is happening every single day, because we're all experiencing it firsthand while working and listing down here.

GLENN: Hmm. Hmm.

STU: You know.

GLENN: Go ahead.

STU: I was just going to say, I was on vacation last week. You know, it's like saying I'm cutting my calories from vacation levels to normal levels.

It's still not healthy. Right?

It's just -- even if there is an improvement from 2023, which some numbers do show, although the numbers are questionable.

2023 was just absolute catastrophe. And this is just terrible. Right?

Like, that -- there's no reason to embrace this norm.

As the norm.

GLENN: So let me give you -- I want to show you the response. The response on the left.

Here is -- show the full screen here of the free DC.

This came out yesterday.

Free DC. Like it's under some fascistic.

Look at this deal. And what it says is it is encouraging residents to protest Trump's federalizing of the city's police force. And what it wants to do is starting tonight at 8:00 p.m. And then every night, go out to stop this occupation.

Go out and bring pots and pans. And bang on them. And then when you're -- your neighbors go, what the hell is wrong with you!

Say, don't you care about the fascistic government.

STU: People will love that.

GLENN: This is crazy. This is crazy.

Now, if Donald Trump and I think with Jeanine Pirro.

I think some things are going to be happening quickly there.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: He actually has a chance. And I don't think he's doing it this way, for this reason.

But he actually has a chance of turning DC Republican.

Because you're living in that. Imagine --

STU: It's hard to imagine.

GLENN: It's hard to imagine. But imagine living there. And now you're seeing your side, that you've always voted for. Say, it's not so bad. And you know it's bad.

You can't have your wife go out to the grocery store at night.

You've had your carjacked. Maybe crazy people on the streets.

And then he's doing something. And if it works, if it works, people will be like, you know what, I'm sorry.

But that is a better solution.

He is -- this is very brilliant of him. He's very good at this.

He knows where people live.

You know, spiritually. And physically. He knows right where they live.

And where they're living in Washington it can't. Is a hellhole.

And everybody there knows it. And if he can actually change their lives, he changes everything.

Are these MAJOR PROBLEMS with our airlines widespread?

What is going on at our airports?! Glenn Beck has noticed an increase in flight issues – delays, technical problems, understaffing. So, he speaks with aviation expert Mike Boyd, who explains where he believes these issues are coming from. Are they widespread? Or is it just one airline? And can the FAA fix these issues under President Trump?

Transcript

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GLENN: Mike Boyd. Welcome to the program, Mike, how are you?

MIKE: I'm doing fine. It's an honor to be here.

GLENN: Thank you. So thank you for coming on. I've been asking for an interview with Secretary Duffy, and we haven't been able to align the schedules yet.

But I am very concerned about our airlines. I was on a plane. These were all American Airlines, by the way. I was on the plane. The pilot, we got on. It was like two hours, three hours later late. We got on. And the pilot was standing in the aisle. And he said, everybody, I don't want you to blame the airlines. I want you to blame me.

And we're like, oh, okay.

And he said, because I wouldn't accept the plane, that they wanted to us fly because I have flown it before. And it has problems. And they haven't fixed those problems. And the only way it's going to be fixed is if we reject it. And say, I can't fly.

I don't know if that's true or not. Or what this guy -- you know, what the story was. But that didn't fill me with confidence. I'm like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. So you're actually saying, the airline is not repairing a plane.

And I don't think -- I mean, I don't think our airplanes are in trouble, and going to start falling out of the sky. But that has been happening lately.

What is happening with our airlines?

MIKE: Well, I think the experience you had, that one specific one. We've done a lot from -- I come from an American Airlines background. Nevertheless, we've done a lot of work with American pilots unions. These are very professional people. The fact that guy stood up there and said, I'm not confident with this airplane. That's a safety -- that's a safety plus.

GLENN: Oh, I appreciated that. We thanked him for that. Thank you. Thank you.

MIKE: But we have a major problem with American Airlines. If you have pilots saying, I don't trust you. These are not yo-yos. These are not good consumer men's. These are professionals. If they say that, we have a problem in America. If that happens in America, and I think you might want to call the folks down there in Fort Worth, their brand-new American Way headquarters. They spent billions on them and asked questions.

But overall, I haven't seen that. Are there big problems with air traffic control?

Yes. No question about that. And we finally have somebody that the FAA and the DOT, who has a clue. And that will be addressed.

But overall, if it's just one airline, you're on the right track, as far as looking at it.

GLENN: Okay.

So this is -- but are you seeing this kind of stuff happening with other airlines.

MIKE: No. No.

GLENN: I'm flying out of Dallas all the time. So I generally fly American. And I occasionally will fly Delta. But, you know, it's mainly American. So I just assume this is happening on other airlines as well.

Because I'm reading the comments from people. And they're like, I can't trust that I can get there the next day anymore.

And that's a real problem.

MIKE: Well, because air travel is. I have to get there times certain.

This is not a game. I have to get to the bar mitzvah, whatever I'm going.

So if they can't get there, I'm not going to go. And the reason I'm not going to go, is you can't get me there. Now, if you look at reliability.
And again, we've had some issues, like Frontier Airlines, if you want to see Saturday Night Lights, go to YouTube. You'll see a gated -- a gated net, Frontier Airlines. It's really bad. But if you look at others, like our friends at United Airlines -- and I don't work for those guys. They have a system where if you book at United, very often, they're with you the whole damn trip.

If you don't like a lot of text messages, don't book them. They're with you, the whole time. And their CEO is functionally age, about making sure, whatever went on. Whatever it is. Take it or leave it.

From that point, I think you may have stumbled over something that affects the metroplex, more than anything else.

GLENN: So how's -- because I've been on the plane. And everybody is like, we're going to have missing.

You know, you will miss your connections.

And everybody is like -- is this kind of -- is the airline system set up almost like the Just In Time supply line? That if it did ever go into catastrophic failure, it would be a real problem.

Because, I mean, it's just one plane arrives, just in time for everyone to unload and reload and take off again.

MIKE: Well, yeah. That's just the issue. In ancient times, our friends at Southwest could come in and go in ten minutes.

Today, you can't get ten seats emptied in that amount of time. So they're really trying to cut down the amount of time, on the ground. That makes sense.

The question is, they have to have systems they can't be allow them to do that.

Now, delta has put in a very comprehensive system that only works for Delta, where they have been able to coordinate all those things, and do a better job of it.

But you're right. If you're coming in and going out, and that airplane has to do a go-around, coming into Atlanta. That could be 15 minutes.

That 15 minutes could mean, you can't get across the terminal to get your connection. That's going to happen.

GLENN: Tell me about the situation.

Because, Stu, you did a documentary on how bad the air traffic control system was. Right?

STU: Yes, I did.

GLENN: And is that on YouTube still? What was the name of it?

STU: It is. Countdown to the next Aviation Disaster. Unfortunately the countdown was not as long as you would have hoped it would have been.

GLENN: Yeah, it is. I mean, what's going on in our air traffic control.

And I would never want to be an air traffic controller. The stress these guys are under.

And that's not -- I'm not even calculating the stress on how close these planes are flying in and out now.

I mean, I'm just thinking, back in the good old days, where it was very stressful.

Now they're still passing paper to each other. And these planes are one on top of the other one.

When are we going to change this system and update it?

MIKE: Duffy is doing that. Duffy is not -- and finally, we have an FAA administrator who has a clue. Brian Bedford. He's been around. No, I've known him for 40 years. This man knows the business, and he's all business.

And, you know -- and, you know, I know he's good because Chuck Schumer doesn't like him. So that underlines everything right there.

GLENN: Good.

MIKE: So that's starting right now. Look, we testified to Congress in 1994 on this. On a free flight system, that you could make it far more efficient. The FAA blew it off. The FAA has always been a repository of some really great people at the operational level.

But at the top, these are just political appointees. Take a look at the FAA administrator that the -- the last president wanted. Phil Washington. Nice guy. Clueless. But he was a good appointee.

We can't do that anymore. I think we're going to see some major changes right now.

GLENN: Now, can -- how long is it going to take us to fix this?

MIKE: Well, you know, one of the things.

It's sort of -- what Duffy said, well, we have a -- there was a program in place to fix it over the next five years. And that's ridiculous.

So he's on it. I mean, he just went up to Wisconsin. He found the oldest, I think the oldest control tower in the nation. We're going to fix this. He's really making a point of trying to get it done.

And I think he's doing it incrementally. Where like Newark. What a disaster. I don't mean this city, necessarily. I do.
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But at the airport, you know.

He's trying to make that work better.

This guy is on it. So I'm thinking 18 months.

It's going to be incremental. But we will start to see this happen.

GLENN: In Newark, or in the country?

MIKE: In the country. Because we can't have a free flight system that is far more efficient --

GLENN: What does it mean, a free flight system?

MIKE: There's a free flight system -- they want to ignore this, where every airplane takes off, and it finds its own ways. Keep in mind, the skies aren't crowded.

You can put 250,000, count them, 737s in a cubit mile of airspace, parked, not moving.

But that's a quarter million of them. And any time in America, today, in the sky, you might have just 14,000 -- 14,000 airplanes in the sky.

GLENN: Wow.

MIKE: But that's like 11 million cubic miles of airspace. So we can use our airspace better.

But what we've had is quite frankly, an FAA that hasn't wanted to think about it. It's more worried about itself. I am convinced that is going to change over the next two years.

GLENN: And are we close to having AI do all of this free flight stuff?

I mean, I would imagine that you don't -- I mean, you don't need to check in with tower, if AI is assisting finding it.

MIKE: Oh, exactly. We've got to use that. And a lot of it -- it's -- the head of the FAA has always been the clown of the Titanic. He says, slow down.

And by the time, it gets back to the engine room, you know, we've hit the iceberg. I think it's one of those things that we have to recognize, a lot of stuff has to change organizationally at the FAA, and at the department of transportation. I think finally we have people that can actually address that.

GLENN: Wow!

That is -- I mean, this is wildly optimistic, but I am happy to hear that. I like Secretary Duffy.

I don't know much about him.

Not enough to say enough like you're talking. That makes me feel really good. I'm very concerned about our air travel.

It's not good. Not good.

Not going in the right direction.

MIKE: It's not going in the right direction.

I find out, if I treat the customer right, they might come back and fly me, and what's happening now, people are getting away from some of these really low fair airlines, where the seat is like, a bucket seat in a C-119.

They don't want to fly those things anymore. And people like United and Delta and other carriers are saying, we'll take your business.

And they are.

GLENN: I have to tell you, at times, I'll be on a plane. And I think we're like one scruffy dog with one blue eye, just walking down the aisle, creepily away from third world airlines. I mean, it's like, there are times I'm like, is there a chicken going to run down the aisle too? What country do we live in?

It's beyond. It really is the greyhound of the sky now.

MIKE: It is. There's no question. My mother was a stewardess in the 1930s. Everybody dressed up.

GLENN: Yes.

MIKE: Today, you're lucky if everybody is dressed.
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GLENN: I don't know why we haven't had you on before, Mike. You're very funny.

Mike, thank you so much. For an inside look on this. I appreciate it. Mike Boyd, aviation expert. From the Boyd group international. He's the president and CEO.

MIKE: Me pleasure. Thank you.

GLENN: He's the guy who consults all these airlines and tries to help fix them.

And is also, you know, testifying in front of Congress all the time.