RADIOMay 19, 2025

Are the Feds covering up Diddy’s REAL crimes?

The criminal trial of rapper Sean “Diddy” Combs has been very disappointing so far, BlazeTV host‪@realjasonwhitlock‬tells Glenn. Instead of focusing on the biggest story – that Diddy may have been running an Epstein-style blackmailing/trafficking operation – the trial has just focused on Diddy’s own degeneracy. Why is NO ONE going after Diddy’s possible accomplices? Whitlock gives Glenn his terrifying theory: “I think they raided Diddy’s home to strip him of his power…all this is really about is taking away Diddy’s leverage and handing it over to the DOJ or whoever’s responsible for this.”

Transcript

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GLENN: Jason Whitlock, welcome to the program. How are you, sir?

JEH: How are you, Glenn?

GLENN: I'm great. I'm great.

I'm not following the Diddy thing. I mean, just -- what I have read this week is absolutely disgusting. I mean, beyond -- I mean, I've read disgusting.

You read it kind of like you watch a car wreck.

I can't even read this stuff. It's so grotesque.

What is actually being exposed here?

What do you think actually happened?

And why aren't they going after anybody, but Diddy?

JASON: I've got my tinfoil hat as I'm talking to you, Glenn.

GLENN: Oh, crap.

Now I can't read his mind.

JASON: So I want the audience to be aware.

So listen, I think that they're holding a trial about Diddy is a really bad person.

He's a sexual degenerate. He turns violent against women that he's dating.

In terms of racketeering and sex trafficking within and all that.

None of that is being addressed.

And I think there's probably a good chance that Diddy either walks, or the jury just convicts him as you're a bad person.

But in terms of this actual sex trafficking. And he's this ringleader of this sexual exploitation deal. They're not proving that case. And I'm not sure that they even have an interest at arguing that case, at this point, Glenn, four or five days into the process. I think they raided Diddy's home to strip him of his power and leverage and blackmail material. And all this is really about is taking away Diddy's leverage and handing it over to the Department of Justice or whoever is responsible for this.

Or stripping him of the most damaging information he had on key people, that they don't want harmed. But in terms of a serious criminal prosecution, of -- of Sean combs.

That's not what transpired here.

GLENN: Well, that was a mouthful. I need my tinfoil hat for that one. What the hell.

So wait a minute. You're saying that maybe he was an operative. Or if he wasn't an operative. He was collecting stuff on people.

And now the government wants that? To either protect those people?

Or to have the power over those people?

JASON: And to strip Diddy of his power. To me, at this point, four or five days in, based on what they're arguing. Yesterday. They basically argued that his girlfriend had -- I don't know about the prosecution, argued that she was the one that paid the sex workers. I mean, this trial is a farce! It is proving that Diddy is a sexual degenerate. Diddy is violent towards women he's dating.

But in terms of, you know, the major, major sex trafficker and all that, no.

They're not even attempting to argue that.

And so I think that Diddy, being a bit of an idiot, probably got too full of himself, and started threatening the wrong people with the information he had. And someone needed to put him in his place. Like, no. You're an operative. You're a tool. You're an asset. You're not some ringleader. You haven't ascended to a place of power, where you can actually use this information, to start blackmailing people. So they stripped him of his information.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

JASON: They totally destroyed his reputation. And, again, maybe this jury will be so repulsed by Diddy. Which they could be.

That they'll just convict him of something that hasn't been proven in court.

GLENN: So who are the mysterious they?

JASON: The people that attended Diddy parties.

Who Diddy may have threatened.

And the -- look, look, I hate to use this. Because I'm just spit-balling here.

GLENN: Yeah. You're just speculating.

JASON: Let's take LeBron James, who said he is an important asset in the Democratic Party. And clearly LeBron James is an important asset in the Democratic Party.

And trying to push black people to stay on the democratic plantation.

And so if LeBron James is on tape somewhere.

And he admitted, he went to Diddy's party. Ain't no party like a Diddy party.

If I'm the -- the left, you know, and LeBron is an important asset for me.

I want that information stripped from Diddy. I want control of that information.

LeBron James is our asset. Not Diddy's asset.

I'm using LeBron James. But there may be other people like that. I'll just tell you, if you watch the case. What transpired in the courts.

You can't watch -- they're just basically arguing, hey, man. This guy is basically a pervert.

And him and his girlfriend did some really perverted things. They're not proving there's a criminal case, so now I have to go, well, what was the motive?

What was the big -- they raided this guy like he was Pablo Escobar, and now they're in court, arguing that he's Hugh Hefner?

No! That's not what we were promised. That's not what -- you don't do a raid like that, just, oh, this guy is Hugh Hefner. He hosted sex parties at his house. They raided him like he was Escobar.

And right now, four or five days in, you know, maybe he's -- maybe Diddy is Bill Cosby, but that's it.

GLENN: I have to tell you, I think I'm more disgusted by your answer, if it's true. If it's right, than I am by Diddy and what he was doing.

What I've heard in testimony, which is disgusting and despicable. But I think I'm more disturbed by the answer of, of this, you know, I own these people.

You don't own these people.

My gosh, you want to talk about a plantation!

I -- it's the only thing that makes sense to me, at this point.

Diddy is -- again, he's some talentless rapper of -- from a very questionable background.

And should -- should never -- again, when you build a system, as corrupt as the globalists have.

The -- very corrupt people rise to power.

GLENN: Yes.

JASON: And people that shouldn't have power, end up with power.

And Diddy is potentially one of those people. They created Frankenstein. Well, how do you kill Frankenstein? This is how you do it.

GLENN: Wow. And when is this trial supposed to end?

JASON: I think it's supposed to be six weeks. And, again, this is a distraction. This is sensational.

It's, hey. Look over here.

Diddy and baby oil.

And look at all these sensational stories. But there's no real meat here, and no substance.

You know, is rap music and that industry, nihilistic, and perverted, and sexually degenerate? Yes. We knew all that. We don't need a trial to prove that.

GLENN: And you can't go to jail for that.

JASON: No. No.

GLENN: Well, you can if it gets so perverted, and you're slavery.

JASON: No, no, no. What I mean by that, we have seen juries so repulsed by the defendant, that it just doesn't matter what the government is arguing or whatever. And he may go to jail, just for being a horrible, awful person. And no one is going to feel sorry for him, if that's the case.

But in terms of some sex trafficker. Again, I don't see it, at this point.

GLENN: So this goes to what -- because my question has been. Why are you not going after anyone else, but Diddy?

Because he couldn't have done all of this by himself.

So why is the guy? And it's the same story as -- as Epstein. They're only talking about him. And, you know, Maxwell. That's it!

Nobody else. Haven't even heard a name of anybody else.

JASON: Let me differentiate from my perspective, the difference between Epstein and Diddy.

And based on what's been argued in court. We're not even seeing them suggest that Diddy was doing this with underage people, so far.

He and, you know, the Epstein part, is about underage. And all that.

We haven't even gotten there, with Diddy. We've -- we spent the first four or five days, talking about the sexcapades of him and his girlfriend.

They tried to paint her as a victim. But she looked like a willing participate, so far in court.

GLENN: But this is why this is disturbing me. Because if what was said about these parties, it does -- it does lead to --

JASON: It involves children.

GLENN: It involves children. It involves drugs that people pass out. And it involves rape and everything else.

And on top of that. Probably poor language, is the idea that they're both Diddy and Epstein, are both operatives for some political or governmental entity.

Or group of people, that are trying to control people, and keep them in play.

JASON: Yeah, and James Comey's (inaudible), who is on the prosecution case, he's not going to argue that.

They're not going to go in. Or maybe later, the trial. Because Diddy certainly was someone that was out there. Promoting the democratic party.

Or a guy. He was certainly a political operative for the democratic party. So far. And even in opening statements or whatever, based off my understanding. None of that is being argued.

That his -- his political involvement. His political engagement. None of that is being put on the table. They're keeping this in a very safe space of, hey. Look at how sexually perverted Diddy and his girlfriend were.

GLENN: Hate this.

I absolutely hate this.

Because if we don't clean this stuff up. We have no chance of survival.

You know, it's like the stuff that was happening with the Muslim pedophile rings.

Over in England. Where everybody knew what was going on. And I'm not saying, we know over here, what's going on. But over there, it just became so obvious.

And the government was just covering it up for it. Because it served their purposes. Whatever those purposes might have been. And you can't have a civilization.

You can't have a society that is cohesive at all if these kinds of things are just not taken care of. If they're just -- special favors are paid to both sides, and just make it go away. You don't have a real system of government.

JASON: I'm going to go a step further, Glenn. Or from my perspective.

You can't have a society that allows the form of music that Diddy was involved in. That promotes special degeneracy. And violence.

And drug use.

If that is going to be at the center of American music culture.

If that's going to be promoted at Super Bowl halftime shows. And Diddy is going to be a powerful figure in politics, and in culture.

You can't have a society that properly functions.

GLENN: Okay. So let me take a one-minute break. And I want to ask you, so what is the solution on that? One minute, and we will back with Jason Whitlock.

GLENN: Jason Whitlock is with us.
So what is your solution to that?

JEH: We have to reapply affinity laws. And quit allowing porn and this type of degeneracy. To be protected under allegedly free speech.

And, you know, there was a long time, in America, where, you know, we had laws. And there were things you couldn't do. And say on public airwaves.

And in movies. And things like that. And now, all of a sudden, everything is under free speech.

And I just tonight -- you know --

GLENN: Well, the key there was -- not in movies.

But you just said it, public airwaves. I mean, I remember 1982.

I'm working on the morning show. WPGC in Washington, DC.

I'm 18 years old. The guy across the street is Howard Stern.

He is just making his big impact in Washington, DC.

And I said, on the air, one time. I'm 18 years old. And I said, the word, what I know really pisses me off.

I wish I would have saved this letter. Because I would have it framed today.

It was a full page memo from the program director saying, I don't know who you think you are.

And I don't think you know where you work.

But this is the nation's capital. And we do not use language like quotation mark, pissed on the air. That's how far we've come.

Because now that -- that's nothing. That's nothing. I don't know how you reverse that. I mean, it -- if you believe in freedom, it -- it really should be reversed internally by the people. And I don't know how to make that happen. Other than, you have to find God, people.

JASON: There was a time when we had this. And in the name of freedom, we have now allowed all types of degeneracy. And obscenity, to go mainstream.

GLENN: Right!

And it was in the name of freedom.

Because you have no civilization, if you're just shooting to the bottom of the barrel.

So it was done in the name of freedom, as well.

And it did keep us free!

JASON: There you go. And look, where I go. Well, let's protect the freedoms and the innocence of children!

Rather than just Hugh Hefner's freedom, or Diddy's freedom.

Or whoever runs Porn Hub's freedom. I want to protect the freedom and innocence of children. And it's so obvious the consequence of this pornographic, degenerate freedom that we have allowed.

It compromises the innocence and the freedom of young people, we mainstreamed. A nihilistic mindset. And a perverted degenerate mindset that is harming the freedom.

And so --

GLENN: That is something that I can get behind. In saying, you know, there's rules for children. And what you expose children to.

I'm completely with that. However, how are you going to do that, when you have got drag shows in kindergartens?

JEH: And, again, it's an old slipper slope. It's we've got there because we moved away from obscenity laws.

And we said, we can't infringe on anyone's freedom to be as degenerate and perverted as they want to be. You know, that's un-American.

You know, we're going to have to penalize. Again, I don't understand.

If you're in the rap music industry. And putting out this type of -- you should be taxed in a different rate. There should be different laws and rules. For me, in the sports world. You go into any basketball arena. Anywhere. And I'm talked about high school level. They pump in this hip-hop music, with all this profanity.

And your children are playing basketball.

We have to put a stop to it.

It is -- it's music, in this form of part.

Has so much influence over your heart and mind.

And your culture.

GLENN: It does. Jason, I've got to --

JEH: We have to say, enough is enough.

GLENN: I have to cut you off. I don't know if we agree on the solutions. But we both agree on the problem.

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Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is directly connected in more ways than one to a radical Muslim cleric named Asad Zaman. Zaman's history and ties are despicable, and despite Walz's efforts to dismiss his connection to Zaman, the proof is undeniable. Glenn Beck heads to the chalkboard to connect the dots on this relationship.

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Is there a sinister GOP plan to SELL national parks?

Is Sen. Mike Lee pushing a sinister plan to sell our national parks and build “affordable housing” on them? Glenn Beck fact checks this claim and explains why Sen. Lee’s plan to sell 3 million acres of federal land is actually pro-freedom.

Transcript

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GLENN: Now, let me give you a couple of things, from people I generally respect.

Chris Rufo, I really respect.

I'm totally against selling this land.

Nobody is going to build affordable housing deep in the Olympic Peninsula, which is one of the most beautiful places in the country.

I agree, it's in Washington State. It's on the coast. And it's a rain forest.

I want my kids hiking, fishing, and camping on those lands, not selling them off for some tax credit scam. This is a question I want to ask Mike Lee about.

That's really good. Matt Walsh chimes in, I'm very opposed to the plan. The biggest environmentalist in the country are and always have been, conservatives who like to hunt and fish.

We don't just call ourselves environmentalists, because the label has too much baggage.

And the practice always just means communist. Really, we are naturalists in the tradition of Teddy Roosevelt, and that's why most of us hate the idea of selling off federal lands to build affordable housing or whatever. I want to get to affordable housing here in a second.

Preserving nature is important. It's a shame we haven't -- that we've allowed conservation to become so left-wing coated. It never was historically.

No, and it still isn't.

You're right about one thing, Matt. We are the best conservatives. We actually live in these places. We use these places. We respect the animals. We respect the land. We know how the circle of life works. So I agree with you on that.

But affordable housing. Why do you say affordable housing or whatever?

Are you afraid those will be black people? I'm just playing devil's advocate? Are you just afraid of black people? You don't want any poor people in your neighborhood or your forest?

That's not what they mean by affordable housing.

And I know that's not what you mean either.

But what -- what we mean by affordable housing is, if you take a look at the percentage of land that is owned in some of these states. You can't live in a house, in some of these states, you know. Close to anything, for, you know, less than a million dollars. Because there's no land!

There's plenty of land all around.

Some of it. Let's just talk about Utah.

Some of it is like the surface of the moon!

But no. No. No.

Not going to hunt and fish on the surface of the moon. But we can't have you live anywhere.

I mean, you have to open up -- there is a balance between people and the planet. And I'm sorry. But when you're talked about one half of 1 percent, and we're not talking about Yellowstone.

You know, we're not. Benji Backer, the Daily Caller, he says, the United States is attempting to sell off three million acres of public land, that will be used for housing development through the addition of the spending bill.

This is a small provision to the big, beautiful bill that would put land in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado. Idaho. New Mexico. Oregon. Utah. Washington, and Wyoming at risk.

Without so much as a full and fair debate by members of both sides of the political aisle.

You know, I talked -- I'll talk to him about this.

The irony is, the edition of this provision by Republican-led Senate goes entirely against conservation legacy of a conservation. President Trump made a promise to revive this legacy.

Yada. Yada. Yada.

More about Teddy Roosevelt.

Then let me give you this one from Lomez. Is Mike Lee part of a sinister plan to sell off federal land?

This plan to sell off public lands is a terrible proposal that doesn't make any sense under our present circumstances and would be a colossal political blunder. But I'll try to be fair to base Mike Lee.

And at least have him explain where this is all coming from.

Okay. I will have him do that in about 30 minutes.

Let me give you just my perspective on this.

I'm from the West. I love the west.

I don't hike myself.

I think there's about 80 percent of the people who say, I just love to hike. And they don't love to hike. They never go outside.

I'm at least willing to admit. I don't like to hike. But I love the land. I live in a canyon now. That I would love to just preserve this whole canyon in my lifetime. I'm not going to rule from the grave. But in my lifetime, to protect this, so it remains unspoiled. Because it is beautiful!

But we're talking about selling 3 million acres of federal land. And it's becoming dangerous.

And it's a giveaway. Or a threat to nature.

But can we just look at the perspective here?

The federal government owned 640 million acres. That is nearly 28 percent of all land in America!

How much land do we have?

Well, that's about the size of France.

And Germany. Poland.

And the United Kingdom, combined!

They own and hold pristine land, that is more than the size of those countries combined!

And most of that is west of the Mississippi. Where the federal control smothers the states.

Okay?

Shuts down opportunity. Turns local citizens into tenets of the federal estate.

You can't afford any house because you don't have any land!

And, you know, the states can't afford to take care of this land. You know why the states can't afford it?

Because you can't charge taxes on 70 percent of your land!

Anyway, on, meanwhile, the folks east of the Mississippi, like Kentucky, Georgia. Pennsylvania.

You don't even realize, you know, how little of the land, you actually control.

Or how easy it is for the same policies, to come for you.

And those policies are real.

Look, I'm not talking about -- I'm disturbed by Chris Rufo saying, that it is the Olympic forest.

I mean, you're not going to live in the rain forest. I would like to hear the case on that.

But we're not talking about selling Yellowstone or paving over Yosemite or anything like that.

We're talking about less than one half of one percent of federal land. Land that is remote.
Hard to access. Or mismanaged. I live in the middle of a national forest.

So I'm surrounded on all sides by a national forest, and then BLM land around that. And then me. You know who the worst neighbor I have is?

The federal government.

The BLM land is so badly mismanaged. They don't care what's happening.

Yeah. I'm going to call my neighbor, in Washington, DC, to have them fix something.

It's not going to happen.

If something is wrong with that land, me and my neighbors, we end up, you know, fixing the land.

We end up doing it. Because the federal government sucks at it.

Okay.

So here's one -- less than one half of 1 percent.

Why is it hard to access that land?

Well, let me give you a story. Yellowstone.

Do you know that the American bison, we call it the buffalo.

But it's the American bison.

There are no true American bison, in any place, other than Yellowstone.

Did you know that?

Here's almost an endangered species.

It's the only true American bison, is in Yellowstone.

Ranchers, I would love to raise real American bison.

And I would protect them.

I would love to have them roaming on my land.

But you can't!

You can't.

Real bison, you can't.

Why? Because the federal government won't allow any of them to be bred.

In fact, when Yellowstone has too many bison on their land, you know what the federal government does?

Kills them. And buries them with a bulldozer. Instead of saying, hey. We have too many.

We will thin the herd.

We will put them on a truck. Here's some ranchers that will help repopulate the United States with bison. No, no, no. You can't do that.

Why? It's the federal government. Stop asking questions. Do you know what they've done to our bald eagles.

I have pictures of piles of bald eagles.

That they'll never show you.

They'll never show you.

You can't have a bald eagle feather!

It's against the law, to have a feather, from a bald eagle!

If it's flying, and a feather falls off, you can't pick it up. Because they're that sacred.

But I have pictures of piles of bald eagles, dead, from the windmills.

And nobody says a thing.

Okay.

But we're talking about lands.

States can't afford to manage it.

Okay. But how can the federal government?

Now, this is really important.

The federal government is, what? $30 trillion in debt or are we 45 trillion now, I'm not sure?

Our entitlement programs, all straight infrastructure, crumbling.

And yet, we're still clinging to millions of acres of land, that the federal government can't maintain. Yeah, they can.

Because they can always print money.

We can't print money in the state, so we can't afford it.

Hear me out. The BLM Forest Service, Park Service, billions of dollars behind in maintenance, roads, trails, fire brakes.

Everything is falling apart..

So what's the real plan here?

Well, the Biden administration was the first one that was really open about it, pushing for what was called 30 by 30.

They want 30 percent of all US land and water, under conservation by 2030.

But the real goal is 5050.

50 percent of the land, and the water, in the government's control by 2050.

Half of the country locked up under federal or elite approved protection.

Now, you think that's not going to affect your ability to hunt, fish, graze, cattle. Harvest, timber, just live free. You won't be able to go on those. It won't be conservatives, who stop you from hunting and fishing.

It will be the same radical environmental ideologues, who see the land, as sacred, over people!

I mean, unless it's in your backyard. Your truck. Or your dear stand, you know, then I guess you can't touch that land.

Here's something that no one is talking about, and it goes to the 2030.

The Treasury right now, and they started under Obama, and they're still doing it now.

Sorry, under Biden.

And they're doing it now. The Treasury is talking about putting federal land on the national ballot sheet. What does that mean?

Well, it will make our balance sheet so much better.

Because it looks like we have so much more wealth, and we will be able to print more money.

Uh-huh. What happens, you know. You put something sacred like that, on your balance sheet, and the piggy bank runs dry.

And all of the banks are like, okay.

Well, you can't pay anymore.

What happens in a default?

What happens, if there's catastrophic failure. You don't get to go fish on that land. Because that land becomes Chinese.

You think our creditors, foreign and domestic, won't come knocking?

What happens when federal land is no longer a national treasure, but a financial asset, that can be seized or sold or controlled by giant banks or foreign countries.

That land that you thought, you would always have access to, for your kids, for your hunting lodge, for your way of life.

That is really important!

But it might not be yours at all. Because you had full faith in the credit of the United States of America.

So what is the alternative?

Supreme Court UPHOLDS Tennessee trans law, but should have done THIS

The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in favor a Tennessee law that bans transgender surgeries for minors. But famed attorney Alan Dershowitz explains to Glenn why “it should have been unanimous.”

Transcript

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GLENN: Alan Dershowitz, how are you?

ALAN: I'm doing great, how about you?

GLENN: It has been a really confusing week. I'm losing friends, I think, because I stand with Israel's right to defend themselves. And I'm pointing out, that while I don't want a war, Iran is a really bad place.

And then I see, the Supreme Court comes out best interest there are three justices are like, I don't know. I think children, you know, can change their identity before we even let them drive or carry a gun. Or enlist in the military.

It's insane!

ALAN: It is insane. Especially since the radical left said that -- 17 and a half-year-old -- voluntary sex with their boyfriend. That would be sexist, that would be horrible.

But they can consent to have an abortion. They can consent to have radical surgery, that can't be reversed.

By the way, the decision is like six to two and a half. Elena Kagan, my former colleague at Harvard, didn't reach the merits of whether or not a state could actually ban these operations on a minor. She got involved in whether or not you need super, duper scrutiny, or just super scrutiny, a kind of, you know, a very technical thing.

But she didn't rule on whether under any kind of scrutiny, the state could do that. So definitely, two of them said that the state could do it, but not necessarily a third one.

GLENN: Okay.

Can you break this argument down? And why it should have been unanimous?

ALAN: Oh, it should be unanimous. There's no question.

States under the Constitution, have the authority to decide medical issues. States decide a whole range of medical issues. I remember when I was a young professor, there was an issue of whether or not one twin could be operated on to remove a kidney, to be given to another twin.

And, you know, that case went all the way through -- the federal government never got involved in that. That was up to the state of Massachusetts. They made interesting decisions.

Some states go the other way.

Half the countries of Europe go one way. The other half go the other way. And just as Justice Brandeis once said that things are the laboratories of Constitutional experimentation.

They have the right to do things their own way. And then we'll see over time. Over time, I predict that we will find that this kind of surgery, is not acceptable scientifically for young people.

And the New York Times had an absurd op-ed yesterday. By the mother of a transgender person.

And it never mentioned. It originally said that the person was now 18 years old.

And the decision does not apply to anyone who is 18.

You know, just wait. Don't make irreversible decisions while you're 12 years old. Or 13 years old.

Because we know the statistics show, that some people, at least, regret having made these irreversible decisions, particularly. Yeah.

GLENN: So why is it -- why is it that the state. Why wasn't the argument, you can't do this to children?

ALAN: Well, you know, that's the question.

Whether or not if the state says, you can do it to children, that violates the Constitution. I think states are given an enormous amount of leeway, this. Deciding what's best for people.

You leave it to the public.

And, you know, for me, if I were, you know, voting. I would not vote to allow a 17-year-old to make that irreversible decision. But if the state wants to do it. If a country in Europe wants to do it. All right!

But the idea that there's a constitutional right for a minor, who can't -- isn't old enough to consent to a contract, to have sex, is old enough to consent to do something that will change their life forever, and they will come to regret, is -- is absurd.

GLENN: So I don't know how you feel about Justice Thomas. But he -- he took on the so-called experts.

And -- and really kind of took him to the woodshed. What were your thoughts on that?

ALAN: Well, I agree with that. I devoted my whole life to challenging experts. That's what I do in court.

I challenge experts all the time. But most of the major cases that I've won, have been cases where experts went one way, and we were -- persuaded a jury or judge. That the expert is not really an expert.

Experts have become partisans, just like everybody else.

And so I'm glad that expert piece is being challenged by judges.

And, you know, experts ought to challenge judges, judges challenge experts. That's the world we live in. Everybody challenges everybody else. As long as all of us are allowed to speak, allowed to have our point of view expressed, allowed to vote, that's democracy.

Democracy does not require a singular answer to complex medical, psychological, moral problems. We can have multiple answers.

We're not a dictatorship. We're not in North Korea or Iran, where the ayatollah or the leader tells us what to think. We can think for ourselves, and we can act for ourselves.

GLENN: Yeah. It's really interesting because this is my argument with Obamacare.

I was dead set against Obamacare. But I wasn't against Romneycare when it was in Massachusetts. If that's what Massachusetts wants to do, Massachusetts can do it. Try it.

And honestly, if it would work in a state, we would all adopt it.

But the problem is, that some of these things, like Romneycare, doesn't work. And so they want to -- they want to rope the federal government into it. Because the federal government can just print money. You know, any state wants to do anything.

For instance, I have a real hard time with California right now.

Because I have a feeling, when they fail, we will be roped into paying for the things that we all knew were bad ideas.

Why? Why should I pay for it in Texas, when I know it wouldn't work?

And I've always wanted to live in California, but I don't, because I know that's not going to work.

ALAN: Yeah. But conservatives sometimes take the opposite point of view.

Take guns, for example.

The same Justice Thomas says that I state cannot have the authority to decide that guns should not be available in time square.

Or in schools. There has to be a national openness to guns. Because of the second apple.

And -- you can argue reasonably, what the Second Amendment means.

But, you know, conservatives -- many conservatives take the view that it has to be a single standard for the United States.

It can't vary in their decision how to control -- I'm your favorite --

GLENN: Isn't that -- doesn't that -- doesn't that just take what the -- what the Bill of Rights is about, and turns it upside the head?

I mean, it says, anything not mentioned here, the states have the rights.

But they -- they cannot. The federal government cannot get involved in any of these things.

And these are rights that are enshrined.

So, I mean, because you could say that, but, I mean, when it comes to health care, that's not in the Constitution. Not in the Bill of Rights.

ALAN: Oh, no.

There's a big difference, of course.

The Second Amendment does provide for the right to bear arms.

The question is whether it's interpreted in light of the beginning of the Second Amendment. Which says, essentially, a well-regulated, well-regulated militia. Whether that applies to private ownership as well.

Whether it could be well-regulated by states.

Look, these are interesting debates.

And the Supreme Court, you know, decides these.

But all I'm saying is that many of these decisions are in some way, influenced by ideology.

The words of the Constitution, don't speak like, you know, the Ten Commandments and God, giving orders from on high.

They're often written in ambiguous terms. Even the Ten Commandments. You know, it says, thou shall not murder. And it's been interpreted by some to say, thou shall not still, the Hebrew word is (foreign language), for murder, not kill. And, of course, we know that in parts of the Bible, you are allowed to kill your enemies, if they come after you to kill you, rise up and kill them first.

So, you know, everything -- human beings are incapable of writing with absolute clarity, about complex issues.

That's why we need institutions to interpret them. The institutions should be fair.

And the Supreme Court is sometimes taking over too much authority, too much power.

I have an article today, with gay stone.

Can had starts with a quote from the book of Ruth.

And it says, when judges rule the land, there was famine.

And I say, judges were not supposed to ever rule, going back to Biblical times.

Judges are supposed to judge.

People who are elected or pointed appropriately. Are the ones supposed to rule.

GLENN: Quickly. Two other topics. And I know you have to go.

If I can get a couple of quick takes on you.

The Democrats that are being handcuffed, and throwing themselves into situations.

Do you find that to be a sign of a fascistic state or a publicity stunt?

ALAN: A publicity stunt. And they would knit it. You know, give them a drink at 11 o'clock in the bar. They will tell you, they are doing this deliberately to get attention.

Of course, a guy who is running behind in the mayor race in New York, goes and gets himself arrested. And now he's on every New York television station. And probably will move himself up in the polls.

So no.

Insular -- I don't believe in that. And I don't believe we should take it -- take it seriously.

GLENN: Last question.

I am proudly for Israel.

But I'm also for America. And I'm really tired of foreign wars.

And I think you can be pro-Israel and pro-America at the same time.

I don't think you can -- you don't have to say, I'm for Israel, defending themselves, and then that makes me a warmonger.

I am also very concerned about Iran. And have been for a very long time.

Because they're Twelvers. They're Shia Twelvers. That want to wash the world in blood. To hasten the return of the promised one.

So when they have a nuclear weapon. It's a whole different story.

ALAN: No, I agree with you, Tucker Carlson, is absolutely wrong, when he say he has to choose between America first or supporting Israel. Supporting Israel in this fight against Iran, is being America first.

It's supporting America. Israel has been doing all the hard work. It's been the one who lost its civilians and fortunately, none of its pilots yet.

But America and Israel work together in the interest of both countries.

So I'm -- I'm a big supporter of the United States, the patriarch. And I'm a big supporter of Israel at the same time.

Because they work together in tandem, to bring about Western -- Western values.

GLENN: Should we drop a bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should.

GLENN: Our plane drop the bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should. And without killing civilians. It can be done. Probably needs four bombs, not one bomb. First, one bomb to open up the mountain. Then another bomb to destroy what's going on inside.

And in my book The Preventive State, I make the case for when preventive war is acceptable. And the war against Iran is as acceptable as it would have been to attack Nazi Germany in the 1930s. If we had done that, if Britain and France had attacked Nazi Germany in the 1930s, instead of allowing it to be built up, it could have saved 60 million lives. And so sometimes, you have to take preventive actions to save lives.

GLENN: What is the preventive state out, Alan?

ALAN: Just now. Just now.

Very well on Amazon.

New York Times refuses to review it. Because I defended Donald Trump.

And Harvard club cancelled my appearance talked about the book. Because I haven't been defending Harvard. I've been defending President Trump's attack. By the way, they called Trump to Harvard: Go fund yourself.
(laughter)

GLENN: Okay.

Let's -- I would love to have you back on next week. To talk about the preventive state. If you will. Thank you, Alan. I appreciate it. Alan Dershowitz. Harvard Law school, professor emeritus, host of the Dershow. And the author of the new book that's out now, The Preventive State.

I think that's a really important topic. Because we are -- we are traveling down the roads, where fascism, on both sides, where fascism can start to creep in. And it's all for your own good.

It's all for your own protection. Be aware. Be aware.

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