Rep. Ronny Jackson knows what level of health is needed for the president to safely conduct his duties. In fact, Jackson was the White House physician for Bush, Obama, and Trump. He joins Glenn, confirming what most Americans fear: President Biden is UNFIT for office: ‘He doesn't know where he's at, what he's doing. He's confused. He looks frail. He shuffles when he walks. He slurs his speech…all signs and symptoms of age-related cognitive decline of some sort. And he does not need to be our Commander-In-Chief and head of state, if he's not 100 percent.’ Jackson, author of the new book ‘Holding The Line,’ tells Glenn about the severe backlash he received from ‘friends’ — including President Obama — in 2020, when he warned the country that Biden’s health should be a concern for us all…
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: We have Congressman Ronny Jackson on with us.
I read something that he has said. And he's got a new book coming out in a couple of weeks. But I read something that he was talking about on President Biden. And, you know, is he mentally stable. And I hate people who play doctor. Except, he actually is a doctor. In fact, he was the -- the White House doctor. The president's doctor for three presidents. And I wanted to get him on the phone. Hi, Ronny, how are you, sir?
PAT: I think we're working to get him back, Glenn. He just dropped off. And we're trying to get him back on.
GLENN: Oh, shoot.
GLENN: Okay. Well, you can just pretend to be him. Hey, Ronny, how are you?
PAT: I'm really good. Thanks for asking. Okay. He's back. He can actually ask him.
GLENN: Oh, he's back.
PAT: Yeah, he's back.
GLENN: Congressman. Congressman, welcome.
RONNY: Thank you, guys. I appreciate you having me.
GLENN: Okay. I can't hear him now. But I can hear him through a speaker of some sort.
So, Ronny, I wanted to talk to you about President Biden. Because you have been somebody who has been a presidential doctor for three presidents. You just left.
And do you know Joe Biden? Have you interacted with Joe Biden?
RONNY: Yeah. Absolutely. I know Joe Biden. I was in the White House for eight years. So I was around him on a regular basis.
I wasn't his physician. I wasn't clinically responsible for him, but I did oversee the medical team that took care of him.
You know, I was a director of the White House unit. And said the doctors and the nurses that provided care for the VP side of the house, reported to me.
But, yeah. I was around him a lot. Events in the White House and the West Wing. So I do know him.
GLENN: Okay. And, you know, I don't take it lightly, I didn't like it when people were saying that, you know, Donald Trump was, you know, mentally unfit. You may have disagreed with him, and you may have thought he was erratic. But there was a method to his, quote, unquote, madness. But he wasn't -- he wasn't somebody, who was looking for it, in my opinion.
I just talked to him recently, he is extremely sharp. But Joe Biden, you can see the decline in him.
And I -- I don't know -- I mean, we are in such a precarious position.
Is this guy fit for office?
RONNY: No. He's not fit for office, Glenn.
I'll tell you, I was saying that when he was candidate Joe Biden. And you're right, there's a big difference.
The far left. The elites in academic medicine, the mainstream media were just coming after me relentlessly about President Trump. It's because they didn't like the nature of his tweets. They didn't like his style.
They didn't -- it was his personalities that they didn't like. He did nothing to -- to demonstrate or to brave any concerns that he had any cognitive exam. But we did a physical exam. We did a cognitive test as well.
As far as I'm concerned, we set the standard now. That's the precedent.
But Joe Biden is a different story. Joe Biden.
You can go back. And I've said this before. You can look at 40 years of tapes of this man. He's always been prone to gaffes.
But these aren't gaffes anymore.
Something seriously wrong with him now, from a cognitive standpoint. He doesn't know where he's at. What he's doing. He's confused. He looks frail. He shuffles when he walks. He slurs his speech. All signs and symptoms of age-related cognitive decline of some sort. And he does is not need to be our commander-in-chief and head of state, if he's not 100 percent.
GLENN: So I know that, for instance, the Secret Service actually controls the president's body and presence. If the president says, I want to go. And I'm going to stand right here. And they disagree with him because of security. They can say, Mr. President, I'm sorry, we've got to move. Because he belongs to the -- to the people. And the state. And constitutionally, they can -- they have to protect him.
And so he can be overridden at times. Is there anything like this, with -- with medical care? Is there anybody that is in a position, that should say, excuse me.
The -- this guy is not capable. Or is it only his cabinet?
RONNY: There's a variety of people. A lot of people around him have a responsibility, to make sure that they're serving their country the way they sworn to do so.
First and foremost would be his position.
I know his position well. The guy worked for me for 8 years.
Kevin O'Conner. I would say, he's not a great physician. He stayed with Biden for the eight years, because he and Biden -- you know, became close friends.
And I think that's the reason why he's there now, his position, because he's willing to cover up anything going on. And help push this forward. A lot of the people should have stopped him from becoming the nominee. First and foremost was Jill Biden.
So I would say Jill Biden, the president's personal physician Kevin O'Connor. The president's cabinet. Even the vice president.
You know, we have the 25th Amendment, which allows the vice president, along with the majority of the president's cabinet, to come to Congress and remove him from office.
I mean, I know they've considered that. You know, I'm sure they have. But I don't know they'll go down that path.
But they're all looking for a way to get rid of him now. But they should have never put him in this position. The people were consumed. They were consumed with going to the White House, and working in the West Wing.
And that includes Joe Biden being First Lady. It includes all the Obama folks. Obama had responsibility in my mind, to stop this. But I think they were looking at the opportunity to put a whole bunch of Obama people, back into the West Wing. And they had done just that.
So I think there were a lot of other people, that were looking after their own interests, and ignoring the disaster that we have now.
GLENN: I know that president Obama has -- has written you a letter, and said, you know, shame on you. I considered you a friend. And everything else.
And shame on you, for -- for talking about Joe Biden this way.
RONNY: Yeah. He did. You know, it happened a couple years ago, back in February 20. I'm here.
He wrote me a letter. A couple years ago, back in February of 2020, and it's out now. Because I wrote a book called Holding the Line. And I wrote about it, in the book. But I just -- I retweeted something that Ronna McDaniel had sent out. Where she was -- tweeted out a clip of the candidate Joe Biden when he was confused about what office he was running for and what state he was in.
And I was just frustrated with the hypocrisy, and the double standard. And so I retweeted that. It was a pretty benign tweet I thought on my part. I just said, A, does anybody remember, the Communist Chess I gave @realDonaldTrump. The one that he ate.
Looks like somebody else needs a test. Scary.
That wasn't that big a deal. But within 30 minutes, twenty to 30 minutes, I -- my phone is like ding.
And I get this email from President Obama, just completely reading me the Riot Act.
Just scolding me, pretty harshly. He started talking about how he thought of me as a friend. And I was a great physician, yada, yada.
And then he basically -- he just broke down to this, I can't believe the cheap shot you took at Joe Biden. This is beneath you as a Navy admiral. This is beneath you as a physician to the president.
This is a direct assault on me and my family and the people that you served, in my White House. And I hope you use better judgment in the future expect, and I'm just really disappointed in you. It was pretty interesting.
GLENN: Wow. Please tell me you have that framed like over your fireplace or something. I would wear that as a badge of honor.
RONNY: No. I do. And I put it in the book as well. So everybody could see it as well.
I didn't know what to do with it. I kind of tell people. It kind of had a weird effect on me. It was kind of a combination between being a little upset and angry about receiving it. And also having my feelings hurt just a little bit. You know, I had a pretty close relationship with all three the presidents I served with. Bush, Obama, and Trump
And it just -- it kind of hurt my feelings a little bit. But I thought about it. And I was going to reply. And then I decided I was going to pick the phone up and call him. But I was late to the fundraiser. Went to the fundraiser. Came out of the fundraiser.
And I was going to make the phone call. And I said, before I make this phone call, so I don't say something I'll regret. I'll come someone who might understand the position I'm in.
So I called Dan Bongino, because Dan and I have been good friends, with the Secret Service. During the Obama administration, and I knew he would kind of understand the weird situation I was in.
I called him, and he said, Ronny, he said, you don't owe this man a damn thing.
You don't owe him anything. He goes -- did he lift a single finger to help you, when you were getting butchered by the left and by Jon Tester. And all these the people with the made-up garbage during your nomination for the BA secretary. One phone call from him. And he knew it was all garbage. He knew that it was all false.
He could have picked the phone up, and made one phone call and put all that to bed. But he didn't bother to help me. You don't owe him anything.
And I thought about it. And I said, you know what, he's absolutely right. I don't owe this guy anything.
And I just let it go. I didn't reply to the email, and I didn't say a word about it until it was leaked out of my book, which is coming out, a week from today.
GLENN: And the name of your book again?
RONNY: It's called Holding the Line.
GLENN: All right. And I would love to have you back after -- give me a chance to read it, and have you back. Because I'm fascinated the -- you know, somebody who has been with three different presidents. And worked in the White House.
And you used to see, you were the first person. Was this with all presidents, or just Donald Trump?
RONNY: I was --
GLENN: First person --
RONNY: Yeah. Yeah. That was -- that was with Trump and Obama. During the Bush administration, I was around President Bush a lot. I traveled with him. I went to the ranch with him a lot. I got to know him very well. He was from Texas. So I was part of that West Texas crowd in the White House. But I was the junior position, during the Bush administration. During the Obama administration and the Trump administration. I was the appointed physician to the president. Which means that my office was on the ground floor of the White House, directly below the president's bedroom. So every morning, when the president, whether it was Obama or Trump, came down. I was a lot of times, the first person they would see in the morning. The last person they would see in the evening. In particular, with President Trump, I would meet him down there in the morning because I didn't know him very well. When he first came on board, I was trying to get to know him a little bit.
So that first week, you know, I would hear the Secret Service call out on the radio. Because I have an earpiece, listening to him all the time. I would hear him call out. That he's coming down the elevator. I would go to the door. Stand there. When he would come down, I would say, good morning, Mr. President.
And, you know, he's up for about three hours, before anybody else shows up at the White House. Watching TV. Tweeting. And talking on the phone.
And believe me, by the time he's dropping down that elevator, he's looking for somebody to talk to. So he sees me standing there. Did you see this? Did you see that? It would be nothing to do with medical. It could be whatever it could have been. You know, it could have been Iran. It could have been Stormy Daniels.
It's just whatever, you know. So I would say, yes, sir. We would start a conversation. He would go, walk with me. So I would walk him to work. I would walk him down the West promenade, down the Oval promenade, right into the back of the Oval Office. You know, the national security adviser. The CIA briefer. The chief of staff, whoever is in the outer Oval would come in. And when I would finish up, I would walk out and they would walk in, as they would start. But I developed a really close personal relationship with Trump because of that interaction I had with him on a regular basis.
GLENN: We're talking to Congressman Ronny Jackson. He's from Texas.
He was the White House physician for three presidents. Bush, Obama, and President Trump.
And has a new book out called holding the line. Where you could read the letter that President Obama sent to Ronny saying, how dare you say this about Joe Biden.
But it is concerning, I think, not just to Republicans. I think it concerns all Americans. Any American that is honest can see, that there are times, that this president has completely checked out.
And the only real solution is the 25th Amendment. But that has to be done by the vice president, and I think it's -- did you say two-thirds of the cabinet?
RONNY: I believe the 25th Amendment says a majority of the cabinet, and the vice president.
GLENN: Okay. Good. All right. Ronny, thank you so much. We'll talk again. God bless you.
RONNY: Thank you. Thank you, again. I appreciate it.