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Former White House Doctor CONFIRMS: ‘Biden is UNFIT for office’

Rep. Ronny Jackson knows what level of health is needed for the president to safely conduct his duties. In fact, Jackson was the White House physician for Bush, Obama, and Trump. He joins Glenn, confirming what most Americans fear: President Biden is UNFIT for office: ‘He doesn't know where he's at, what he's doing. He's confused. He looks frail. He shuffles when he walks. He slurs his speech…all signs and symptoms of age-related cognitive decline of some sort. And he does not need to be our Commander-In-Chief and head of state, if he's not 100 percent.’ Jackson, author of the new book ‘Holding The Line,’ tells Glenn about the severe backlash he received from ‘friends’ — including President Obama — in 2020, when he warned the country that Biden’s health should be a concern for us all…

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GLENN: We have Congressman Ronny Jackson on with us.

I read something that he has said. And he's got a new book coming out in a couple of weeks. But I read something that he was talking about on President Biden. And, you know, is he mentally stable. And I hate people who play doctor. Except, he actually is a doctor. In fact, he was the -- the White House doctor. The president's doctor for three presidents. And I wanted to get him on the phone. Hi, Ronny, how are you, sir?

PAT: I think we're working to get him back, Glenn. He just dropped off. And we're trying to get him back on.

GLENN: Oh, shoot.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: Okay. Well, you can just pretend to be him. Hey, Ronny, how are you?

PAT: I'm really good. Thanks for asking. Okay. He's back. He can actually ask him.

GLENN: Oh, he's back.

PAT: Yeah, he's back.

GLENN: Congressman. Congressman, welcome.

RONNY: Thank you, guys. I appreciate you having me.

GLENN: Okay. I can't hear him now. But I can hear him through a speaker of some sort.

So, Ronny, I wanted to talk to you about President Biden. Because you have been somebody who has been a presidential doctor for three presidents. You just left.

And do you know Joe Biden? Have you interacted with Joe Biden?

RONNY: Yeah. Absolutely. I know Joe Biden. I was in the White House for eight years. So I was around him on a regular basis.

I wasn't his physician. I wasn't clinically responsible for him, but I did oversee the medical team that took care of him.

You know, I was a director of the White House unit. And said the doctors and the nurses that provided care for the VP side of the house, reported to me.

But, yeah. I was around him a lot. Events in the White House and the West Wing. So I do know him.

GLENN: Okay. And, you know, I don't take it lightly, I didn't like it when people were saying that, you know, Donald Trump was, you know, mentally unfit. You may have disagreed with him, and you may have thought he was erratic. But there was a method to his, quote, unquote, madness. But he wasn't -- he wasn't somebody, who was looking for it, in my opinion.

I just talked to him recently, he is extremely sharp. But Joe Biden, you can see the decline in him.

And I -- I don't know -- I mean, we are in such a precarious position.

Is this guy fit for office?

RONNY: No. He's not fit for office, Glenn.

I'll tell you, I was saying that when he was candidate Joe Biden. And you're right, there's a big difference.

The far left. The elites in academic medicine, the mainstream media were just coming after me relentlessly about President Trump. It's because they didn't like the nature of his tweets. They didn't like his style.

They didn't -- it was his personalities that they didn't like. He did nothing to -- to demonstrate or to brave any concerns that he had any cognitive exam. But we did a physical exam. We did a cognitive test as well.

As far as I'm concerned, we set the standard now. That's the precedent.

But Joe Biden is a different story. Joe Biden.

You can go back. And I've said this before. You can look at 40 years of tapes of this man. He's always been prone to gaffes.

But these aren't gaffes anymore.

Something seriously wrong with him now, from a cognitive standpoint. He doesn't know where he's at. What he's doing. He's confused. He looks frail. He shuffles when he walks. He slurs his speech. All signs and symptoms of age-related cognitive decline of some sort. And he does is not need to be our commander-in-chief and head of state, if he's not 100 percent.

GLENN: So I know that, for instance, the Secret Service actually controls the president's body and presence. If the president says, I want to go. And I'm going to stand right here. And they disagree with him because of security. They can say, Mr. President, I'm sorry, we've got to move. Because he belongs to the -- to the people. And the state. And constitutionally, they can -- they have to protect him.

And so he can be overridden at times. Is there anything like this, with -- with medical care? Is there anybody that is in a position, that should say, excuse me.

The -- this guy is not capable. Or is it only his cabinet?

RONNY: There's a variety of people. A lot of people around him have a responsibility, to make sure that they're serving their country the way they sworn to do so.

First and foremost would be his position.

I know his position well. The guy worked for me for 8 years.

Kevin O'Conner. I would say, he's not a great physician. He stayed with Biden for the eight years, because he and Biden -- you know, became close friends.

And I think that's the reason why he's there now, his position, because he's willing to cover up anything going on. And help push this forward. A lot of the people should have stopped him from becoming the nominee. First and foremost was Jill Biden.

So I would say Jill Biden, the president's personal physician Kevin O'Connor. The president's cabinet. Even the vice president.

You know, we have the 25th Amendment, which allows the vice president, along with the majority of the president's cabinet, to come to Congress and remove him from office.

I mean, I know they've considered that. You know, I'm sure they have. But I don't know they'll go down that path.

But they're all looking for a way to get rid of him now. But they should have never put him in this position. The people were consumed. They were consumed with going to the White House, and working in the West Wing.

And that includes Joe Biden being First Lady. It includes all the Obama folks. Obama had responsibility in my mind, to stop this. But I think they were looking at the opportunity to put a whole bunch of Obama people, back into the West Wing. And they had done just that.

So I think there were a lot of other people, that were looking after their own interests, and ignoring the disaster that we have now.

GLENN: I know that president Obama has -- has written you a letter, and said, you know, shame on you. I considered you a friend. And everything else.

And shame on you, for -- for talking about Joe Biden this way.

RONNY: Yeah. He did. You know, it happened a couple years ago, back in February 20. I'm here.

He wrote me a letter. A couple years ago, back in February of 2020, and it's out now. Because I wrote a book called Holding the Line. And I wrote about it, in the book. But I just -- I retweeted something that Ronna McDaniel had sent out. Where she was -- tweeted out a clip of the candidate Joe Biden when he was confused about what office he was running for and what state he was in.

And I was just frustrated with the hypocrisy, and the double standard. And so I retweeted that. It was a pretty benign tweet I thought on my part. I just said, A, does anybody remember, the Communist Chess I gave @realDonaldTrump. The one that he ate.

Looks like somebody else needs a test. Scary.

That wasn't that big a deal. But within 30 minutes, twenty to 30 minutes, I -- my phone is like ding.

And I get this email from President Obama, just completely reading me the Riot Act.

Just scolding me, pretty harshly. He started talking about how he thought of me as a friend. And I was a great physician, yada, yada.

And then he basically -- he just broke down to this, I can't believe the cheap shot you took at Joe Biden. This is beneath you as a Navy admiral. This is beneath you as a physician to the president.

This is a direct assault on me and my family and the people that you served, in my White House. And I hope you use better judgment in the future expect, and I'm just really disappointed in you. It was pretty interesting.

GLENN: Wow. Please tell me you have that framed like over your fireplace or something. I would wear that as a badge of honor.

RONNY: No. I do. And I put it in the book as well. So everybody could see it as well.

I didn't know what to do with it. I kind of tell people. It kind of had a weird effect on me. It was kind of a combination between being a little upset and angry about receiving it. And also having my feelings hurt just a little bit. You know, I had a pretty close relationship with all three the presidents I served with. Bush, Obama, and Trump

And it just -- it kind of hurt my feelings a little bit. But I thought about it. And I was going to reply. And then I decided I was going to pick the phone up and call him. But I was late to the fundraiser. Went to the fundraiser. Came out of the fundraiser.

And I was going to make the phone call. And I said, before I make this phone call, so I don't say something I'll regret. I'll come someone who might understand the position I'm in.

So I called Dan Bongino, because Dan and I have been good friends, with the Secret Service. During the Obama administration, and I knew he would kind of understand the weird situation I was in.

I called him, and he said, Ronny, he said, you don't owe this man a damn thing.

You don't owe him anything. He goes -- did he lift a single finger to help you, when you were getting butchered by the left and by Jon Tester. And all these the people with the made-up garbage during your nomination for the BA secretary. One phone call from him. And he knew it was all garbage. He knew that it was all false.

He could have picked the phone up, and made one phone call and put all that to bed. But he didn't bother to help me. You don't owe him anything.

And I thought about it. And I said, you know what, he's absolutely right. I don't owe this guy anything.

And I just let it go. I didn't reply to the email, and I didn't say a word about it until it was leaked out of my book, which is coming out, a week from today.

GLENN: And the name of your book again?

RONNY: It's called Holding the Line.

GLENN: All right. And I would love to have you back after -- give me a chance to read it, and have you back. Because I'm fascinated the -- you know, somebody who has been with three different presidents. And worked in the White House.

And you used to see, you were the first person. Was this with all presidents, or just Donald Trump?

RONNY: I was --

GLENN: First person --

RONNY: Yeah. Yeah. That was -- that was with Trump and Obama. During the Bush administration, I was around President Bush a lot. I traveled with him. I went to the ranch with him a lot. I got to know him very well. He was from Texas. So I was part of that West Texas crowd in the White House. But I was the junior position, during the Bush administration. During the Obama administration and the Trump administration. I was the appointed physician to the president. Which means that my office was on the ground floor of the White House, directly below the president's bedroom. So every morning, when the president, whether it was Obama or Trump, came down. I was a lot of times, the first person they would see in the morning. The last person they would see in the evening. In particular, with President Trump, I would meet him down there in the morning because I didn't know him very well. When he first came on board, I was trying to get to know him a little bit.

So that first week, you know, I would hear the Secret Service call out on the radio. Because I have an earpiece, listening to him all the time. I would hear him call out. That he's coming down the elevator. I would go to the door. Stand there. When he would come down, I would say, good morning, Mr. President.

And, you know, he's up for about three hours, before anybody else shows up at the White House. Watching TV. Tweeting. And talking on the phone.

And believe me, by the time he's dropping down that elevator, he's looking for somebody to talk to. So he sees me standing there. Did you see this? Did you see that? It would be nothing to do with medical. It could be whatever it could have been. You know, it could have been Iran. It could have been Stormy Daniels.

It's just whatever, you know. So I would say, yes, sir. We would start a conversation. He would go, walk with me. So I would walk him to work. I would walk him down the West promenade, down the Oval promenade, right into the back of the Oval Office. You know, the national security adviser. The CIA briefer. The chief of staff, whoever is in the outer Oval would come in. And when I would finish up, I would walk out and they would walk in, as they would start. But I developed a really close personal relationship with Trump because of that interaction I had with him on a regular basis.

GLENN: We're talking to Congressman Ronny Jackson. He's from Texas.

He was the White House physician for three presidents. Bush, Obama, and President Trump.

And has a new book out called holding the line. Where you could read the letter that President Obama sent to Ronny saying, how dare you say this about Joe Biden.

But it is concerning, I think, not just to Republicans. I think it concerns all Americans. Any American that is honest can see, that there are times, that this president has completely checked out.

And the only real solution is the 25th Amendment. But that has to be done by the vice president, and I think it's -- did you say two-thirds of the cabinet?

RONNY: I believe the 25th Amendment says a majority of the cabinet, and the vice president.

GLENN: Okay. Good. All right. Ronny, thank you so much. We'll talk again. God bless you.

RONNY: Thank you. Thank you, again. I appreciate it.

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Did USAID Really Fund Chelsea Clinton’s Wedding? Here's the FACTS

As DOGE continues to expose the many, many ways our government has wasted taxpayer dollars, Glenn gives a warning: “You have to be really careful [what you believe] because we don’t want to wreck our credibility.” While the things DOGE has uncovered have been true, there are also a lot of rumors and misinformation spreading online. Glenn addresses some of those rumors, like the seemingly-unfounded claim that USAID helped fund Chelsea Clinton’s wedding through the Clinton Foundation. We must ask questions, but we can’t jump to conclusions without being sure that we have the real facts. Glenn also addresses some provably true stories of government waste, like how the Pentagon overpays for things and why Glenn supports Trump’s decision to stop minting pennies.

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GLENN: Looking at the DOGE stuff, and I want to talk about this next hour.

We have to be really, really careful. Because I don't know about you, but when I heard that we possibly paid for Chelsea Clinton's wedding.

PAT: Yeah. Do we have that substantiated though?

GLENN: We don't. We don't.

And that's why I want to bring that up.

PAT: You have to be careful with that stuff. A ton.

STU: A lot of stuff coming out online.

And you can't quote this stuff. You have to be really, really careful.

Because we just don't want to, A, wreck our credibility.

And, you know, when we find out that it is absolutely true, that's when we can go and say, round them up!

Let's put them court.

PAT: Yeah. Yeah. There's -- there's a viral chart going around that shows Chelsea Clinton got, I don't know. Something like $84 million from the foundation from the Clinton foundation.

And that 3 million of that went to her wedding.

GLENN: Okay. So I think -- I think they did get $84 million.

PAT: I think that went to the foundation, right?

GLENN: Yeah. It went to the foundation.

Got it for the whole run. For Haiti or whatever.

And, you know, we know they spent $84 million in Haiti.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: Because look at the place now.

Oh, it's beautiful he has not it's beautiful.

PAT: Well, we were there, how many years after the earthquake.

And it still looked the same. As if the earthquake had just happened. You remember that?

GLENN: Oh, yeah. And the people from Haiti were saying to us, where is the money?

PAT: Where is the $10 billion? Yeah. Because that could have rebuilt. That could have rebuilt the entire country. 10 billion.

GLENN: About four times. About four times over, I think.

PAT: Yep. Yep.

GLENN: I mean, it is -- Haiti is just -- it's a sad, sad situation.

It's been ripped off by everybody in the world over and over again.

And I think the Clintons are, you know, they kind of lead the way on the -- on the charity for Haiti graft.

PAT: Yeah.

STU: But we don't know anything about that. We do know the Clinton initiative got $84 million.

But we don't know any more than that.

And, you know, honestly, if you're spending your tax dollars, I mean, that's what people have to realize.

Even if it is, you know -- even if it is -- it didn't go to Chelsea's wedding.

Which I would be surprised.

I would be shocked, if they were that bold!

PAT: Yeah.

STU: But, you know, this isn't an effective use of your money.

And people who are looking at it, and saying, well, it was only $5 million.

How much money have you paid your entire life in taxes?

Because I guarantee you, it's not going to be $5 million.

It's not! Very few people to have pay $5 million in their lifetime of taxes.

So that means, that everything that you paid. Everything that you worked for. When you work four months a year, to pay your income tax.

All of that has been wasted, your entire life.

I don't know!

I'm kind of pissed about that.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: I mean, what could you have done with all of that money?

And I -- I just don't -- I don't get people who are, you know, again, like we said, I'm for aid.

I'm absolutely for aid. I'm absolutely for looking at countries, and saying, how can we help you, if it's in our interest, and that's not aid.

That would be development. But I'm not for most of the development that has been happening. I'm not interested in nation building!

You know, so, you know, even if you're for that, are you cool with it going 60 cents on every dollar? To the government officials?

Or to the charitable officials. And only 40 cents of that dollar?

I mean, I'm not happy with that. We've gotten so used to corruption, in our government, on, you know, the Pentagon spent $400 on, you know -- on a toilet seat.

We're so used to that. That we just expect it.

This is not that.

The corruption that we're finding now, is beyond imagination.

It's going to be hard for people to get their arms around, what you're actually looking at.

Because we expect a certain amount of -- unfortunately, a certain amount of corruption.

But nothing like this!

And if you're -- you know, if you are a Democrat and you're inclined, not to believe it.

Okay!

I can understand that.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, for a while.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. And say, I probably would have been skeptical, if Joe Biden -- I would have been skeptical if Joe Biden would have come in and said, we will route out all of the corruption.

I would have thought, well, no.

They're getting rid of anybody who is conservative on corruption.

That's why I'm so excited about the Pentagon because that's going to be a lot of conservative love.

You know what I mean?

So called conservative love. It's just graft and greed and cronyism.

But still, it -- it's -- we're supposed to be in love.

The left is supposed to be in love with aid.

We're supposed to be in love with death. I'm not -- I -- I am not blind to either one of those things.

But go into the Pentagon. I would love to see them take.

At you see the congressman or the senator last week, that held up a bag of bolts, and said, this is about $10 at the store?

It's $10,000, if the Pentagon buys it!

PAT: Jeez.

STU: Where is that money going?

PAT: Incredible.

GLENN: Who is getting that money?
And, you know, you would say, well, they're charging ten thousands of individuals dollars a bolt, because, you know, the aircrafts that they're building.

They're so expensive.

And they can't actually charge the price of what it takes.

No, they're charging us the price with all of the overruns.

All of the hundreds of billions of dollars in overruns.

They're charging us that as well.

So my question is: Where do those billions of dollars end up?

In just the pockets of, what? McDonnell-Douglas?

PAT: Raytheon?

GLENN: Raytheon.

PAT: Congress people?

GLENN: Right!

PAT: You know, a lot. A lot of it -- you know it's winding up in their pocketbooks. Has to be.

GLENN: And you know what really bothers me is, these people are taking our tax dollars. And then they're giving that money, through lobbying. To our politicians. Who are allowing the corruption to happen.

So it's just this giant circular -- I'm just going to leave it at that.

This giant circular, something.

I don't -- I don't know what happens in circles.

But there it is.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: By the way, the other thing that Trump said, first of all, he's getting rid of pennies.

Did you hear that?

Executive order. Thank you!

I mean, you know, takes 3 cents to create 1 cent. What are we doing?

That's the dims thing I've ever, ever seen.

PAT: Yes. Especially when nobody wants pennies. Nobody uses them.

If you ever use cash. And you get pennies back.

You just put it in their take a penny jar, usually.

And don't even want it messing up your pocket.

GLENN: Right. I mean, it's absolutely worthless to the American people.

And it's costing our government 3 cents to make 1 cent.

Finally, the president is -- I mean, all of this stuff is so common sense. That's what's so frustrating about all of this.

Should had it should have been done long ago.

But for some reason, we just couldn't. We've known about the penny thing.

I've known about the penny thing, when it was a cent and a half to make a penny.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: That long ago.

PAT: He's -- he's leaving no stone unturned right now.

You've got the penny thing.

And then he just did the straw situation.

Did you see that?

We're going back to plastic straws.

He signed an executive order, or he is going to. Ending the ridiculous Biden push for paper straws, which don't work. Back to plastic, he tweeted out! Or truthed out.

GLENN: I love that.

PAT: It's just -- it's amazing the things that he's covering, at a breathtaking speed.

GLENN: I love that.

Do we have the CBS anchor trying to explain how Trump's approval ratings are going through the roof? Listen to this. Cut ten.

VOICE: What's driving this?

VOICE: I will keep it simple, Margaret. He's doing what he said he would do in the campaign. There's political value in that. In fact, 70 percent of people say he's doing what he's promised. That's whether they approve of him or not.

Now, there's another part of this that continues over from the campaign. There are words he was described as being tough. Being energetic.

And he still is today, in big majority numbers.

So as people take a look in these first few weeks, there's been a lot of activity. They're getting that general sense of governance. And that's being reflected in these early numbers.

VOICE: So that's perception. What about the actual policies?

VOICE: Well, let's start with the ones that are popular.

Again, these echo the ones we see in the campaign. The idea of deporting those in the country illegally continues to be popular. We saw that in the campaign.

GLENN: 59 percent.

VOICE: Sending troops to the US-Mexico border. Again, majority --

GLENN: 64 percent.

PAT: Wow! Wow.

GLENN: I mean, it is -- and they're just baffled by it. I don't understand. No. Really.

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Trump Border Czar WARNS Cartels, Illegal Immigrants, & Anti-ICE Politicians

White House Border Czar Tom Homan joins Glenn with the latest updates to the illegal immigration crackdown. He lays out why he took the job, how the deportations are going so far, and what’s coming next. Homan also explains why he’s “very concerned” about violent threats from the cartels. But he has a warning for them: “If they harm a SINGLE Border Patrol agent or soldier, President Trump is gonna rain hell down on them and I think he'll wipe them off the face of the earth." Plus, Homan has a message for anti-ICE politicians in sanctuary cities: "[Pam Bondi] will have NO PROBLEM if I recommend prosecution of a politician for impeding or knowingly harboring and concealing an illegal alien.”

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From Reality TV to Deadly Rescue Missions | Diesel Brothers | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 244

When the State or National Guard can’t complete a rescue mission, it’s time to call the Diesel Brothers. “Heavy D” (‪@HeavyDSparks‬) and “Diesel Dave” rose to fame thanks in part to a prank that landed them on Jay Leno's show and then the Discovery Channel. But now they've found a much more meaningful passion. The Diesel Brothers have since carried out multiple rescue missions to recover crashed airplanes and missing persons, making use of their most impressive vehicles. These include Heavy D’s Black Hawk helicopter, which they say leaves the FAA asking, “Who are these guys and how do we know they aren’t going to kill themselves?” In a conversation about trucks, fame, and “rolling coal,” the two men outline their ongoing legal battles with an environmental group in Utah and give their take on the rise of electric vehicles. Heavy D, who has met the president himself, tells Glenn that “Trump has an authentic admiration of Glenn” because he is “legit,” and the three men applaud Trump for not taking on a “God complex” after the assassination attempt. In the end, the two put Glenn in the hot seat, asking him to name the one person — alive or deceased — that he would most want to have dinner with.

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How Trump’s 15% Tax Plan Could UNLEASH American Prosperity

President Trump is working on a plan to lower corporate tax rates to 15% for companies that make their products in the United States. Informal Trump economic advisor and Committee to Unleash Prosperity co-founder Stephen Moore joins Glenn to make the case that this plan, coupled with tariffs, could unleash American prosperity. But Trump might not stop there. Moore addresses whether Trump could get a “15/15/15” tax plan past Congress, meaning 15% corporate tax, 15% income tax, and 15% tariffs. “If he could pull that off,” Glenn argues, “it’s a new world!”

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GLENN: Stephen Moore, welcome to the program. Committee to unleash prosperity cofounder.

If I remember right, you've been with me against tariffs for a long time. Have you changed on this?

Because I think I'm changing, Steven.

STEPHEN: Hey, Glenn, good to be with you. Also, I'm an informal adviser to Trump on the economy. And, by the way, he knows that I'm not a huge fan of tariffs. But you set this up very well.

You know, a tariff is basically a consumption tax.

GLENN: Oh, good. Correct.

STEPHEN: It's something you and I talked about over the years is the national retail sales tax replace the income tax. Well, if you did that, you would essentially be taxing everything when it came in to the country.

Because it will be consumed here. And so what Trump is basically talking about, which I think is a really interesting idea, is not necessarily getting rid of the income tax. But lowering all the tax rates to 15 percent. You know, right now, you know, it's 30 percent or more. And then imposing that --

GLENN: I was going to say, what kind of world do you live in? I would celebrate with 30 percent income tax.

STEPHEN: Yeah. Right. If you're really rich, you could be uphill by 40 percent.

So I kind of like that idea. So I go with Trump the other day.

To say, the 15-15-15. So how about we have a 15 percent corporate rate, a 15 percent individual income tax rate, a 15 percent universal tariff, 15 percent capital gains/dividends.

Can you imagine that?

GLENN: It would unleash prosperity like nobody's business.

STEPHEN: Prosperity. Yeah. It would.

No country could compete with us here. Let me give you an example, you know, Glenn, that I think everybody can relate to because you have listeners all over the country.

You know what states in the United States have the biggest in migration right now?

GLENN: Yeah. Florida and Texas.

STEPHEN: And Tennessee.

GLENN: Okay.

STEPHEN: Now, for a bonus question, I know you're supposed to be asking questions. What you know those states have in common?

GLENN: No income tax.

STEPHEN: No income tax. So businesses, capital, and jobs, migrate to the places with low tax rates. So if we have the lowest tax rates in the world, on top of the greatest workers in the world, the freest country in the world, I mean, we would just blow away the rest of the world. And Trump is very -- I don't know. You know, it will be tough to get that done. But that's where he wants to end up.

GLENN: I tell you, that's the problem we've always had with tariffs, for me at least. It's just a tax, and you're already taxing us.

STEPHEN: Right.

GLENN: Well, then buy American, and then you don't to have pay for that tariff.

But I'm are already being taxed a pretty high rate.

Please, I don't want to pay more for things that maybe I want. Or maybe they're cheaper.

Because they're coming from China.

STEPHEN: Yeah. This is a good conversation for people who have this.

Trump said different things at different times.

In my conversation in the last week. It basically was saying, he put it very simply.

He said this to some of the speeches too. What he wants to do is charge a 15 percent tax on things that are made in China. Or, you know, Europe.

GLENN: Right.

STEPHEN: Or Japan.

But if it's made in Michigan or Ohio or Pennsylvania or California or Maine, he wants to have the rate 15 percent.

I'm like, well, I can live with that, Mr. President. I think that's a pretty cool idea.

I mean, I'm an America First guy. I'd rather have people buy things that are made in America, all things equal.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait.

You just said, if it's from China, you're paying 15 percent tariff. But if it's made in America, you say you pay an extra 15 percent. That's zero!

STEPHEN: No. What I'm saying, you're going to pay a 15 percent income tax, if it's made in the United States. In other words, the profits you make on selling something. Let's say you make widgets. And you make a profit in making widget does in Pennsylvania and wherever it is.

GLENN: Right. But to buy that product, if it's made in America, you don't pay any tax!

STEPHEN: No, no, no.

In other words, what you're trying to do is skew the table a little bit more in favor of buying things in the US versus other countries. By the way, that's what other countries do to us.

GLENN: I know. I know.

I have to tell you, I think the way the president is handling really, everything.

I've never seen anything like this, Steven. Have you?

STEPHEN: Me either. No. I've been in the game as long as you have. I have arrived in Washington in the Reagan years.

So I still think Reagan was one of our greatest presidents. I still think Trump, it's interesting. Because whenever we have meetings, with Trump, he's always talking about -- he's very kind of envious. He wants to go down in history, as one of the great presidents like Reagan. To role model that out.

So I think, I think we're -- and he also will understand, Glenn, he's only got really about two years to get it done.

And then we will -- he's a lame duck. He can't run for reelection again. He understands that. That's why he races out of the gate like sectator out of the office.

I think I said on your show a month ago, or so. Buckle up. Because this will be a hell of a ride. And it's only been three weeks.

GLENN: I know. Seven days. And I think he's accomplished more than most presidents have done in their entire term.

STEPHEN: Definitely. Definitely.

GLENN: And I don't think it will stop any time soon.

Because I said, you've got only two years to do this. He said, Glenn, two years. I've got 100 days.

If I don't have all this done in 100 days. It's not going to get done.

STEPHEN: There's a lot of truth to that. There's a lot of truth to that. That's why we have to get this tax cut done.

That's one of my highest priorities is making sure we make the tax cuts that we cashed in 2017 permanent. I want to make sure your listeners understand something.

I think most of your listeners know this. But a lot of people are not aware of it.

If Congress does nothing, everybody's taxes are going to go up next year. Everyone's. You know, we don't want Donald Trump raising taxes on people.

And so we have to get this tax cut done. I like his idea of no tax on tips. I like the idea of no tax on overtime. We'll add some other things on it.

But these are all oriented toward making an American economy great again. And it's going to work!

GLENN: So why aren't we going for 15-15-15, over doing -- you know, making this permanent, why not in just one move try to go for the whole enchilada?

STEPHEN: Well, stick around, my friend, it may happen. We'll see how it turns out.

At the very minimum, we have to make those taxes permanent.

But we may go further than that. We may go with 15-15-15, and that would be a remarkable accomplishment.

And then we will produce American energy. He's already slashed the regulation clause.

So it will make America incredibly competitive.

And the jobs are going to flow here, not in China and Japan, and all the other countries. It's a beautiful thing.

GLENN: We not only have to grow our bottom line, grow our way out of this. Which we can. But we also must cut. It will take I think 65 years at this point. At the speed of DOGE.

And they're cutting like crazy, to actually balance the budget.

Are we going to be able to cut enough?

Is there an appetite for that?

STEPHEN: Well, as I said, I've been in this town for 40 years. And Republicans talk a good game. But when it comes right down to it, we like to spend money just as much as Democrats do. I think, how about what Trump is talking about. About getting rid of all this crazy foreign aid programs. I mean, the left is hyperventilating about this. But those programs never work.

They don't -- they don't need any development. They just create a huge international bureaucracy of people who hate America.

I mean, this guy has -- has a spine of steel. I mean, he really does.

GLENN: He really does. He really does.

Steven, thank you so much. God bless you.

Keep us informed, will you?

STEPHEN: Check in more often.

GLENN: Yeah. I will. I will.

Thank you very much.

Stephen Moore, Committee to Unleash Prosperity.

I have to tell you, I think if he did 15-15-15, it would explode.

PAT: Which is 15 percent flat income tax. Fifteen percent corporate?

GLENN: Corporate. And 15 percent tariff.

PAT: Tariff. Wow.

GLENN: So you don't make it in America. You know how many people -- what's the company that bought Ford and Jaguar and everything?

Stellantis?

Can't remember the name of that company.
But they're now talking about coming back to America. Because of the tariffs. They're going to make the Jeep back in Detroit. They've already moved 1500 jobs back to a factory here in America. They're going to move them also back to Detroit. To make the Jeep back in America. That's what happens.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: If you have a tariff and you have 15 percent tax! This is why -- you know, it's fascinating. This is why, when we were headed towards that global government, this is why the president and all the leaders of the West, tried to get an agreement that there would be a minimum corporate tax. Do you remember that?

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And we were a part of that. A minimum corporate tax. No! No.

We're not going to play -- we're not going to hobble everybody.

If we can work it to our advantage, so we grow, why would we hobble ourselves?

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: And 15-15-15 would blow the world away. Blow it away.

PAT: Because far more competitive than any other industrialized nation.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

The jobs that would be created here.

You would get more money into the coffers of the United States government, because the prosperity would be so high! It would be amazing.

PAT: Yeah.

And to replace the progressive income tax with just a 15 percent flat tax. That -- that would make such a huge difference in American's lives.

GLENN: Think of just this. If we had a flat tax, think of how many dollars are wasted on IRS audits. How many -- how much time is wasted at places like H&R Block.

Your accountant. How much time you spend putting your taxes. Getting the receipts. Figuring it all out.

PAT: My gosh.

GLENN: Think of just the man-hours. Forget about the money that's being lost in preparing it! Just the man-hours.

If you had those man-hours back, what could we be doing with that money and those man-hours?

Just that is game-changing and growing the economy.

Because you have more money, to keep!

And more time to do what you want to do!

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: I'm telling you, if he can do 15-15-15, if he can pull that off, it's a new world.

PAT: And Stephen Moore said, it's a possibility. That's pretty amazing!

GLENN: That is amazing. That is amazing.