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How Vatican City’s DARK SECRETS are relevant to YOU

The true reason why Pope Benedict retired from his position in 2013 — the first time it had been done in nearly 600 years — remains a mystery (though, the fact that Vatican City’s ATM transactions began working again right after his announcement leaves many to believe he was pressured into the decision). But now, an Archbishop who worked closely with Benedict is publishing a tell-all book that may expose several of Vatican City’s scandals, ones the Pope was investigating. Dr. Taylor Marshall, author of ‘Infiltration,’ joins Glenn to detail not only these dark secrets, but also how they represent a type of evil that is NOT exclusive to the Catholic Church. Rather, Dr. Marshall explains how this story relates to us ALL: ‘Ultimately, evil wants to take ownership and brand your mind and control your thoughts. And that's where all the tentacles are reaching.’

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GLENN: Dr. Taylor Marshall is with us now.
The author of Infiltration.

The infiltration of the Catholic Church. The plot to destroy the church from within.

This is a universal story now. Doctor, welcome to the program. How are you?

TAYLOR: I'm great. Thanks for having me on, Glenn.

GLENN: You bet. So we follow your work a great deal because you talk about other things, other than Catholic things.

But I want to make sure people understand, right from the beginning.

We are not taking on the Catholic Church, and this is not a Catholic bash session.

TAYLOR: No. Not at all. And I consider myself a Catholic. I attend mass every day, sometimes more. I have a beautiful Catholic family. We have eight children.

GLENN: Jeez.

TAYLOR: And I love Christ. I love -- I love the church.

And that -- that bothers me, that there's these wolves in sheep's clothing. In shepherd's clothing even, doing horrible things to children, to bank finances, to all kinds of scandals.

GLENN: Right.

TAYLOR: And I think the answer is to just shine light on it, and expose it. So we can have true change. And get things back on track, the way we want them.

GLENN: And there will be a lot of Catholics that listen and will hear you, like Nancy Pelosi, who consider themselves Catholic. That will disagree, strongly with with some of the things that you're saying. But I think that's the point.

Because there is this kind of feeling among Catholics about Pope Francis. Is he a good guy? Is he a bad guy?

I don't know if we'll ever get to that question. But I want to talk about Pope Benedict. Because this was very bizarre, when Pope Benedict resigned.

I think it was the first time, right?
Where he resigned.

TAYLOR: Well, it's the first time in 597 years. So it's been a while. It's pretty rare.

GLENN: Yeah. Right.

And when he resigned, it seemed very odd. It was preceded by European banks, pulling the plug on the Vatican bank. Right?

TAYLOR: Yeah. That's correct. Well, actually if we go back a little bit more. A few months before the Vatican bank having a -- kind of a meltdown.

There was the butler of Pope Benedict. His name was Paulo HEP Gabrielli, and he was leaking documents to the press and to journalists. And no one knew how this was happening. And finally, he was caught.

He pled guilty. And he was sentenced to prison, in the Vatican. And Pope Benedict oddly pardoned him. And that led to the whole investigation, that was headed up by Benedict. A secret investigation. Three cardinals did it. They presented to him. The sources say one or two red binders, of all kinds of filth in it.

Bank scandals. There's rumored to be pictures of cardinals in drag, in those binders. All kinds of nasty things.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

TAYLOR: And that all happened in December of 2012.

And then January 1st of '13, the -- the Vatican museums cannot process money.

The ATM machines in Vatican City stopped working.

And shortly thereafter, we have the announcement of Pope Benedict, that he's going to resign. The very next day, all those banking problems were fixed. They were resolved. By the way, the night that Pope Benedict announced he was going to resign. That was the night that (?) which was a sign for a lot of people.

GLENN: So -- so this is right along the lines of what we're seeing in the Deep State in the United States.

We are seeing with World Economic Forum, which I know you are very well aware of.

Are you -- are you -- is there any evidence, that this banking thing was to put pressure on the pope, get out?

TAYLOR: I think so. And the reason for this. And you say Deep State. And I think we really need to. Everyone needs to put in their vote. (?) deep church. The same thing that is happening in state, is happening in the church. We can refer to Deep State and deep church.

GLENN: And it's not just the Catholic Church. These people have been working behind the scenes for years.

TAYLOR: Yes. And you have to remember that the Vatican is unique, in that the Vatican is its own nation. It's called a city state. It has its own sovereignty. Technical, Vatican (?) it's it's own micro country. And as its own micro country, it has its own bank. Now, I want (?) a mob boss. Your biggest problem, is what do you do with all this money?

GLENN: Is the bank.

TAYLOR: You have to launder. You have to get it into legit means and move it around, right?

And what if there were a bank on earth, that belonged to a micro nation, that was not regulated by the EU. That was not regulated or audited by anyone on the outside.

Well, there is that bank in the world. And that bank is called the Vatican bank. So err crony on earth wants a piece of that bank.

Because you can legitimatize legitimate money. That's why the Vatican (?) almost every five to ten years. Since the 1960s.

The temptation to use that Vatican bank is high. And the temptation for corrupt cardinals in the church, that led people to get their fingers in the pie. Is also very high. That's only one piece of this puzzle. But I think that helps people to understand why the Vatican bank is constantly plagued with scandals.

GLENN: Okay. So let me make sure I understand the good guy here. Benedict. Is it your thesis that Benedict was working to end all that corruption and expose it. And possibly his (?) was being used by Pope Benedict. To out all of this stuff.

And -- go ahead.

TAYLOR: Yeah. Those are questions that we're still trying to figure out. I want to be very careful not to say, Pope Benedict was the super saint mastermind playing (?) this is an old man, who is in his 80s. I mean, it's -- very few of us have had the experience of being old and tired and surrounded.

And so I don't think we could make it just as easy as the good guys and the bad guys here. But definitely Pope Benedict was doing investigations.

And he appointed a man who was becoming very famous in the last couple of years. Archbishop (?)

GLENN: I love him.

ADAM: Yeah, he's great. He's a good guy.

He appointed him, back in -- I think it was 2009. He appointed him, secretary general of the Vatican City.

And this is sort of a ruling body. And he wanted him to look into the financial accountability of the Vatican bank.

And as soon as he was hired by Benedict for this job, he found a -- a negative deficit of the equivalent of 10.5 million. And then found a surplus of random money that was in various bank accounts of 44 million. He did that in just 12 months. Viganò did. (?) which shows you that the people who were already in there, were playing fast and loose with accounting.

Viganò (?) some cardinals. I won't go into all the names. But if you want them, I can give them to you.

GLENN: No, no. That's all right.

TAYLOR: And he got in big trouble. So what did Benedict did? He took Viganò. (?) the apostolic, (?) the ambassador to America. Washington, DC. Now I want you toggle and do an audit on the American bishops (?) and the American Catholic Church. That's what Viganò did. (?) and guess, what he undercovered (?) archbishop of DC. Who was molesting children. Embezzling money. Just a wicked Judas of a man. Viganò (?) five years, pointing the finger at Francis for corruption.

So all these characters are woven together. It's a pretty small world, in the Vatican.

GLENN: So let me switch topics here and kind of go to what happened, what? Yesterday or the day before. Unprecedented. The pope writes a book. And it's held until after his death. And he just exposes some really nasty things. And I want to get into your thoughts on that. What did he say?

Why did he wait in and what is going to be the fallout (?) for everybody else in all of our churches that aren't Catholic?

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So it was a tell-all memorandum with our. And it was -- (?) it was a book of really unexpected Revelations. And it came from the Vatican. It came from the archbishop. Who was the right-hand man of Pope Benedict.

And it was supposedly written by the two of them. I think?

Or Pope Benedict. And it exposes all of the things pope been ticket wanted to expose.

And it's some nasty exposé.

Never really done before.

Am I right?

TAYLOR: Yeah. As far as I know, it's never been done.

There was a rumor, that Pope Benedict was going to release his final spiritual testimony after he died. And after he died, it came out. Everybody said, it was a nothing burger. Kind of reminisced about his childhood and family. Then (?) I actually have an advanced English copy.

I don't know if he's official or not. I'll read you a section of it. This is Pope Benedict.

Quote, in several (?) were formed. Which acted more or less openly. And which clearly changed the atmosphere in seminaries. In a seminary in southern Germany, candidates for the priesthood, and candidates fort (?) lived together.

And it goes on. He talks about also the American bishops. And how they sort of lost their vision for the gospel. For assisting the poor. For preaching the truth. Drawing people to Jesus Christ.

And instead, kind of just became -- not in his words. But sort of the chaplains to the Democratic Party. You know, the woke agenda. The Great Reset.

And this kind of makes sense. I mean, if you're Satan, you want to be in the highest corridors of power.

And that has to do with both religion and politics.

And there was a woman aliened bella Dodd. Who in the '50s said (?) she was a communist operator. She had a big conversion. And she said, she had placed over a thousand communist men in the seminaries. That was back then.

So this kind of thing was happening. And it's -- it's just like we have a Deep State. This is the Deep Church.

STU: Right.

GLENN: So Pope Francis recently came out and said, the devil is among us.

And he has talked about a great evil.

It sounds like this is what Benedict was also warning against.

But I don't think they see things the same way.

Or do they?

TAYLOR: Well, I liked your comment (?) evil. But they seem to be pointing at one another.

GLENN: Right.

TAYLOR: I think that's -- I think your observation there was a good one. I think there's definitely a war in the Vatican. And this kind of goes back to the '60s. There was this countless. You mentioned in the video, there B (?) third secret of Fatima. In the 1960s, or the second (?) from 1962, to 1965, it was super optimistic. You know, this is the era of color TV. And moon landings and all this.

GLENN: Yeah.

TAYLOR: And there's this idea, we need to make Christianity. We need to make Catholicism groovy.
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GLENN: And that's exactly the right word too.

Because those kinds of churches are just as hip as groovy is. They work just as well.

TAYLOR: Yep. And so there's this idea, we can update and make things cool. So we'll change the liturgy. We'll change the hymns. We'll make things modern. And what we'll do is just give a face-lift to Catholicism, so it's not medieval.

And bells and ropes. And we'll just be really cool.

Well, there's been this battle for the past 60 years on whether that is an actual improvement. Or it's been detrimental.

And it goes hand in hand with the global political agenda.

Should wen on board. Should we be downplaying abortion? Downplaying gay marriage?

You know, and this has been the battle. And the lines are kind of drawn along that fault line.

And I think Benedict, the 16th, as a young man. Was a little bit liberal and more modern. As he aged, as he was a pope. He turned the wheel right. Francis has always been a South American liberation theology, radical, Jesuit. Modernist. And that's just who he is.

And he has -- if anything, he's only gotten more and more leftist, the longer he lives, and the longer he's pope.

GLENN: Go ahead. Go ahead. No, no, no. Go ahead.

TAYLOR: So by having these two catches. You see Pope Francis, for example, he's trying to ban the traditional Latin (?) the Gregorian chant. He doesn't likable the old stuff.

And he's very much (?) on board with like, the vaccine and the theology.

And the great reset.

And he sends representatives to Davos. I mean, this is his worldview. And so when he talks about the devil. I'm not so reason he's talking about the same person that Benedict is talking about.

GLENN: Right. So when I was at the Vatican, this is under Benedict. I had no idea why they did this. It was a surprise to me.

But I was allowed to go to the secret archives with the chief archivist. And the head of the university. Both of them were the -- you know, counselors to the pope, at the time.

And they talked about a war, in the Vatican. And it -- it was described to me, later by a cardinal, as really, truly a Civil War. And they were saying, it's the soul of the church. And we kind of hope Benedict wins. And it's not clear at all. It was shortly after that, that Benedict retired.

And it seemed like almost in retrospect, almost as if the cardinals knew, this could be a possibility. That he would either be killed. Or he would have to retire.

I would like to have you talk about the actual -- it's almost did a vast majority of codish. I hate to say that. But it's almost Da Vinci Code. There is a group inside. (?) how real is this. And does this play at all, into prophecies. Catholic prophecies about these days.

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GLENN: Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. Today, we're talking to tailor marshal, author of infiltration. Also, host of the Dr. Tailor marshal podcast you can find on YouTube. He talks about (?) a lot of things.

But he is -- he is a very strong Catholic, and this week, we are talking to him about what Pope Benedict did after his death, just a book -- a book just came out. No one in America is talking about it.

And I don't know if anybody in Europe is really talking about it. But it is earth-shattering. And it's all about evil. And evil is becoming more and more clear. At least to me, it is. And before we go on to the war that is going on in the deep church, archbishop Viganò, (?) at one point here recently called out, George Soros, Klaus Schwab, and Bill Gates. And this is the guy who was calling out all the pedophiles, and the banking scandals. Why did he call those three out?

TAYLOR: Well, as time goes on, we see that the deep church and the Deep State, the puppet strings all lead back to the same fingers. So, of course, Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab. The usual suspects. Because you have to realize that the most powerful people in the Deep State, the most -- the billionaires, and the -- the technology giants. They have a strategy, not just for politics. But also for economics. They have a policy -- and they have a policy for religion.

I mean, all the great tyrants also have to control religion.

I mean, that has to be done. This is thought control. And the most powerful thoughts that people have. The powerful feelings they have, is almost always associated to their religion. To their faith. To their convictions.

And so this has to be controlled.

GLENN: Correct.

ADAM: And the biggest united religion on earth is Catholicism, with a very centralized nervous system in Vatican City. So, of course, they will go after that. And archbishop Viganò (?) who exposed corruption in the Vatican vein. Who worked in Washington, DC. He knows the Clintons. He knows the Obama's. He knows all these people. And he's met every single Catholic bishop in America. And all the cardinals in America.

He has the receipts. And so he's a in a very unique position, perhaps more than anyone alive. To have worked in the Vatican, in DC, and to see all these things at the time.

GLENN: He's very clear on good and evil. And he -- didn't he say this is a one world government, that is being built by those people in the WEF. And it's one world religion and everything else.

That's what he's really warning about, isn't he?

ADAM: Exactly (?) during the campaign. In fact, he even sent a message during one of the major rallies, that I read from the Supreme Court steps, on behalf of archbishop Viganò. (?)

GLENN: Would you please put a good word for me? I've tried to have him on a billion times. We don't get a response. I would love to do a podcast with him.

TAYLOR: Well, he's in hiding.

GLENN: Well,ening --

TAYLOR: For obvious reasons. But, yes.

GLENN: Okay.

TAYLOR: We can work something out. But he is really one of the most dynamic voices on earth, in particular within for -- for Catholics. Or you could say Christians, who have just had enough. You know, who have just had enough of basically politicizing our faith, so that the likes of Bill Gates can grab up more land. And push more experimental medical procedures on the world.

GLENN: So day before so let me -- let me ask you the -- the third secret of Fatima. And if people don't know what Fatima is, it's -- it's a miracle that happened, what?

Right before the --

TAYLOR: 1970s.

GLENN: Right before the war. And the Virgin Mary came. And appeared to the children. And said, look, there's going to be a war. It's Russia that's behind a lot of this error.

And Russia needs to be turned over to the Lord.

And their hearts changed. And gave, I think three secrets.

And the last one was kept secret

And it's confusing now, because it supposedly has been revealed.

But then I think Benedict hinted that it really hadn't been revealed.

But it talks about the last black pope, if you will. And I don't mean it as color of your race. I mean as a dark figure, that he's on the wrong side.

Is that true? And do you and others, does very good no believe this is those times? (?) or we're approaching them?

TAYLOR: Yes. I think that the Fatima mystery, and the three secrets of Fatima. In my book, infiltration, it's the very first part of the book. I won't get into all the details. People can look into it, themselves. There's tons of literature on it. (?) maybe since Moses crossing the Red Sea. I know that sounds sensational (?) that was witnessed in a place, a little tiny place.

Fatima, Portugal. And, yes, there were three secrets that were revealed. Just quickly, (?) and people were going there.

Don't listen to people who tell you, there's no hell. Number two, Russia needs to be consecrated.

Russia, the errors of Russia, are about to spill into the entire world. Over the -- this was documented in 1917.

GLENN: Right.

TAYLOR: And what did we see? We saw the rise of communism, (?)

GLENN: National socialism. All of it.

TAYLOR: Cuba. Latin America. What happened in 1917? Either these little kids were just drilling it, you know -- politicians who can see the next hundred years. Or this was really a message from heaven. Then the third secret was written down.

And was supposed to be opened and read to the world, in 1960. Sixty. It's a special message to the world.

And everyone. Even the New York Times was publishing, orientation my goodness, we're go B to have the secret of Fatima. (?) it was a really big deal.

A lot of people forgot it. It was a really big deal.

GLENN: Nobody (?) seemed to release. And you're like, why?

Why hasn't it been released?

TAYLOR: And the secret, talking about a world war, and a worst one after that. Everything that was revealed. Did come after it. So everybody wanted to come in the envelope, what in the envelope (?) John the 23rd opens it. Reads it. Puts it back in. And says, this is not for our time. I'm not releasing it to the world.

And everyone was ticked. Everyone was upset. Exo. This is perhaps the greatest prophetic thing that happened in the last 700 years. And you won't reveal it.

So that was 1959. 1960.

Then something was released in the (?) allegedly the third secret.

As soon as it came out, people questioned it. Because it describes a vision of what seems ton some kind of post-war dystopia. But it doesn't explain what it is, or what should happen. Or what we should do. Like, there's the explanation part that we had in the first and second secret. Is missing in the third secret. This has led to a unanimous agreement by scholars, even people who weren't Catholic. What they gave us in the year 2000, was maybe part of it. But it wasn't the full secret. And why don't we have the full secret. There's people who have speculated. There are people who read it, (?) it has to do with the bad counsel.

With a bad mass.

GLENN: And with -- and with a meeting in Russia, that the pope will go to Russia.

And not to consecrate Russia.

TAYLOR: Yeah. It's hard to know. Because we don't have it. We just (?) kind of get drippings of what it could be. But we do know that Russia is at the center of this whole thing. And we're still living in 2023.

It would be great to get the full secret. To know what it actually says. But my worry is that they put it into a filing cabinet, called trash can. And we may never see it.

That's my concern.

GLENN: I -- I -- Dr. Marshall, we could talk for a long time. I have so many questions for you. But we're almost out of time.

Tell me how this relates.

What's going on in the Catholic Church. Which is a real, true Civil War for the soul.

Just like we're battling for the soul of America in the country. And the West. Everything is being split.

How does this relate? What's going on in being exposed in the Vatican to all of our other churches?

TAYLOR: Well, I think at his it goes back to thought control. They want to control our actions. They want to control our words. You know, if you say certain things, you will be canceled. Just look at what Elon Musk was exposed to in the last several months. And then they ultimately want to control your thoughts.

People want to (?) 666 on the forehead. All of that. Think of the significance of the forehad he. I mean, that is branding. The sign of the devil, upon your mind.

You know, the -- yes. There very much could be a physical manifestation of a sign on your forehead. But ultimately, evil wants to take ownership, and brand your mind. And control your thoughts. And that's where all the tentacles are reaching. This complete thought control.

You will own nothing. You will have nothing of your own. You won't even have your thoughts. And allegedly, we will be happy. Is what they tell us, at the great reset.

GLENN: It's actually -- it's actually in one of their videos. That even your thoughts. Your dreams will be known. So you really will not control your thoughts or be in charge of your thoughts. You will not know which are your thoughts or their thoughts.

It's really spooky.

TAYLOR: That's ultimately, the mark of the beast there. You have 666 on your forehead, literally. Whether it's a contraption. Whether it's a tattoo. We debate that all day. But the significance of that, is that your mind belongs to evil.

GLENN: And is there any doubt in your mind, that this is actual evil. Like we probably haven't seen since maybe the 1930s and '40s? Any doubt in your mind?

TAYLOR: There's no doubt in my mind. No doubt.

The powers. Back then, they have machine guns and planes. Now we have technology.

Now we -- people can spy on you through your phone.

They can control so much. And that hasn't yet been tested by tyrants. And so now we're starting to experience it.

GLENN: Thank you so much, doctor. I hope we get a chance to meet soon. I would love to get you on (?) and things you know about that, that I might have missed. You spread a lot of good, in the world, with your -- with your podcast. So thank you so much. At which time likewise.

GLENN: YouTube (?) really, really reasonable.

Well thought out man. His name is Dr. Tailor marshal. He is the author of the book (?) Taylor marshal podcast. You can find his podcast at YouTube.com/Dr. Taylor marshal.

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PBD Reacts to Glenn Beck's Prediction the Epstein Files WILL Be Exposed | Glenn TV | Ep 413

Radical transparency IS coming to America, Glenn says, but only if Kash Patel is confirmed to head the FBI. In fact, Glenn makes one of his boldest predictions yet: Kash will release the Epstein client list on his FIRST DAY leading the bureau. On tonight’s episode of "Glenn TV," Glenn is joined by ‪@PBDPodcast‬ host Patrick Bet-David and co-hosts Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana. They discuss the damning ramifications releasing the Epstein list (or the Diddy list) may have for those who were associated with the island but were not guilty of partaking in criminal activity there — something President Trump expressed concern for before becoming elected. Plus, what will releasing the JFK files do to the CIA? We now know the CIA was in Miami following Lee Harvey Oswald, so why then didn’t the CIA stop him? Public trust in our federal government dropped substantially after the JFK assassination, and it continued to plummet over the next several decades until it hit a new low (14%) under Biden. Can Trump — with the radical transparency Glenn predicts is coming — turn that all around? PBD predicts Trump could increase that number to 50% or even 60%. Democrats see it coming, too. Their meltdowns over the DOGE and Elon Musk ending wasteful spending now are on fully display: “Accountability is here, and they’re panicking.” Lastly, Glenn and the "PBD Podcast" guys discuss how the first assassination attempt against Trump changed him as a person, providing him with both laser focus and an understanding that his job in the White House is much bigger than himself.

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Trump’s Treasury Secretary SHUTS DOWN Reporter Trying to Attack DOGE

The Biden government hired 80,000 new IRS agents to make sure YOU followed every one of their complicated tax laws. But when President Trump ordered DOGE to audit the government, politicians and the media squealed! That should speak volumes about what their true priorities are, Glenn says. Glenn and Pat review some of the latest pushback from the establishment, including how Democrats are whining about Elon Musk and how a judge tried to block even Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent from accessing Treasury data.

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GLENN: You know, it's astonishing how many people have found a very clear common sense voice and a lack of fear.

They seem to be all over this administration.

Stephen Miller is one of them, don't you think, Pat?

PAT: Definitely.

And he was talking about the angry Dems. And had some things to say about them. Deputy chief, Stephen Miller, cut 14.

VOICE: The Democrat use of the term unelected is really quite remarkable here. Donald Trump was elected in an overwhelming landslide.

These are Donald Trump staffers. It's like saying that Mike Walls, National Security adviser is unelected. Or Susan Wiles, the chief of staff is unelected. Or Donald Trump's communication team is unelected.

This is presidential staff that serves at the pleasure and for the president, just as I do. I am a staffer, for the president of the United States. He is elected. He is the one that the American people have chosen to implement his agenda. This is the agenda the American people voted for.

That he is asking his staff. His subordinates. His employees. To implement.

The unelected power in this country is the rogue bureaucracy.

USAID is unelected. The FBI, that persecuted President Trump for eight years, is unelected.

The CIA and those who have laundered intelligence to try to change the foreign policy of the United States are unelected.

President Trump is restoring democracy, by controlling the federal bureaucracy.

There is one man in the country, who is elected bit whole American people, to implement an agenda they support. That is the president.

Every other officer in this country, members of Congress and Senate are elected at the state and local level. The Constitution puts one man in charge of the federal executive branch. And that's the president.

GLENN: Understood. Understood.

PAT: Let him finish.

GLENN: He's absolutely awesome.

And absolutely right.

I mean, that's the thing -- I just don't understand. When they were -- when the federal judge tried to block and did for this weekend.

But it's not going to last long.

Tried to block the secretary of the Treasury

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: From even looking at the data, that is produced by the Treasury?

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: Who is running things? My gosh.

PAT: Well, Treasury secretary Scott Bessent was interviewed over the weekend, and he had some things to say about -- just about that!

VOICE: Mr. Secretary, we are inside the cash room in the Treasury department. It's almost impossible to overstate how important the work that's done in the US building. Is the US financial system.

Yet right now, there is widespread concern about the DOGE teams access to sensitive payment systems.

Are you worried at all, that that access and that tinkering of the payment systems, could affect the Treasury's market or cause any disruption.

VOICE: Well, good. Thank you for asking me about that.

Because there's a lot of misinformation out there.

First of all, when you say the DOGE team, these are Treasury employees. Two Treasury employees, one of whom I personally interviewed in his final round. There is no tinkering with the system. They are on read only. They are looking. They can make no changes. It is an operational program to suggest improvements. So we make 1.3 billion payments a year. And this is two employees who are working with a group of long-standing employees.

VOICE: The letter that the treasury department sent earlier this week, talked about how the team currently does not have access to change the system.

Have they, at any point this year, had the ability to make changes?

VOICE: Absolutely not. This is no different than you would have at a private company.
By the way, the ability to change the system, sits at the Federal Reserve.

So it does not even lie in this building. So they can make suggestions on how to change the system, but we don't even run the system.

VOICE: And if they ask her, they request the ability to change the system. Would you grant that?

VOICE: No. Again, they have no ability to change the system.

I have no ability to grant that change. That they can make suggestions. Then it would go to the Federal Reserve. And just like any large system. There would be tests.

There would be this. There would be that.

And then the fed will determine whether these changes are robust or not.

VOICE: As the Secretary of Treasury, you also oversee the IRS.

Do you know what kind of access the team has to IRS data or individual taxpayer data?

VOICE: Well, I'm glad you asked that too.

Because, look, the IRS, the privacy issue is one of the biggest issues. And over the past four years, we've seen a lot of leaks out of there. The IRS systems are quite poor.

When I started in college in 1980, I learned the program. I think, there are 12 different systems at the IRS that still run on COBOL. But as of now, there is no engagement at the IRS.

VOICE: Elon Musk just a few -- half an hour ago, tweeted out that Treasury needs to stop approving certain payments. Has your staff tried to block any payments at the Treasury?

VOICE: We have not.

And I'm glad you asked that too. And just to put it in perspective, Elon and I are completely aligned in terms of cutting waste and increasing accountability and transparency for the American people.

I believe that this DOGE program in my adult life is one of the most important audits of government. Or changes to government structure, we have seen.

That when I was in my 20s, we had the grace report. And there's some great suggestions that came out of that.

Never implemented under Clinton and Gore.

I think it was to government efficiency. Or to reduce government. Nothing happened.

So, you know, President Trump came in. There's a big agenda.

And I think there are gigantic cost savings for the American people here.

And I think it's unfortunate the way the media wants to lampoon what is going on.

PAT: Yes.

GLENN: Thank you.

VOICE: These are highly trained professionals. And this is not some broken band going around doing things. This is methodical, and it is going to yield big savings.

PAT: Jeez. And what's wrong with that? Is there anything wrong with that? I don't think so.

GLENN: Right. Did you hear a nonhostile question coming from the Bloomberg reporter?

PAT: No. A nonhostile? No. But he handled it in a nonhostile way.

He was great, wasn't he?

GLENN: Yeah, very well.

I mean, yeah. And it's a little scary, that the Treasury Secretary can't make any of these decisions, they're all made by the Federal Reserve.

That's a problem, which is why DOGE wants to bring Ron Paul in for an audit of the Fed, which would be fantastic.

PAT: It would be great.

GLENN: Can you imagine what we would find at the Fed now?

PAT: Oh, my gosh. I can't imagine it. And it's the fed with the power to make these changes.

That's amazing too.

That they can't even do it from the Treasury. That's kind of eye-opening.

But I think they need to use that term audit of government more. Because what's wrong with that.

GLENN: Yes. That's why they're going into the Pentagon. The seventh audit failed.

Let me ask you something: You know, she brings up the IRS.

The government hired 80,000 new IRS agents, to go over your records. To make sure nothing -- no funny business is going on with you.

That you're paying every dime that you're supposed to pay. Because there's a shortfall.

No! There's not a shortfall.

They're spending too much. When we go in, and try to send accountants in, to say, how did you spend this money?

The same thing the IRS does to you, every year, they squeal like little pigs.

I don't know.

If -- you know, you went in to the IRS every year with the attitude that the Democrats have.

You would be audited every year. Because somebody, probably rightfully so would go, wait a minute.

Why are you panicking so much. Why are you saying we can't have access to your records?

This is a legal operation. What's happening here?

And it -- it kills me that the media is sticking up for corruption.

Whose side are they on?

PAT: Well, they're on the side of corruption. Because they're benefiting from it.

And that's been the problem for how many decades now?

How many centuries now?

GLENN: I know. I know.

PAT: Have we run the nation in a way that the Founding Fathers intended, since, I don't know. 1830. Probably not.

GLENN: No. So, you know what, I have a copy of the first budget. It was on the front page of a Columbia newspaper from South Carolina.

And it -- it lays out George Washington's budget.

And it actually asks Congress to increase the budget for firewood, because the Capitol was cold.

And they needed extra firewood to keep things warm.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And I don't even know if that got passed. I have no idea if that got passed.

PAT: Jeez.

GLENN: But that's the way we should be. Oh, you know what, put a sweater on, Congress. Oh, you're a little cold in there. Put a sweater on.

PAT: Exactly.

GLENN: They're the ones that should be putting the sweater on. Not us. Not us.

PAT: Look how Thomas Jefferson struggled with the Louisiana Purchase.

I mean, we almost didn't do it. Because he thought, it wasn't proper. He thought it was unconstitutional.

But it turned out to be too good a deal, and we did it anyway.

But they had a completely different mindset. You know, the funds that the federal government had, that they got from American taxpayers, whether they pay in excise taxes, or wherever their taxes came from. Those were sacred funds.

And they didn't just throw them out to anybody for any reason.

GLENN: Yes. And look at --

PAT: We've got to get back to that.

GLENN: We can spend a trillion dollars and have it all just vanish on us.

But if Donald Trump says, let's take $2 trillion and buy Greenland.

Everybody would freak out. Which one should you freak out about?

The investment, or the loss?

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: It's -- it's -- it's an unspeakable horror, what is going on. And how the people are reacting to it.

You know, everybody in America should be happy about this.

One other truth speaker. Somebody else who is just very good at saying exactly what he means. And getting right to the truth. Is Hegseth.

Here he is, talking about our strength. Cut 22.

VOICE: I think the single dumbest phrase in military history, is our diversity is our strength.

I think our strength is our unity. Our strength is our shared purpose. Regardless of our background. Regardless of how we grew up. Regardless of our gender. Regardless of our race. In this department, we will treat everyone equally.

We will treat everyone with fairness. We will treat everyone with respect, and we will judge you as an individual by your merit. And by your commitment to the team and the mission.

That's how it has been. That's how it will be.

Any inference otherwise, is meant to divide or create complications, that otherwise should not and do not exist.

GLENN: I've got to tell you. How is that controversial at all?

We're -- you know why they keep teams together.

You go through buds and you keep that team together, because their strength is their unity. You don't send them into war with a bunch of people that are all different with each other. You send them into war that all have different skills, yes.

But are acting as one, with one purpose.

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New Task Force Could Expose The Government's DARKEST Secrets

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna has been tapped to lead the House Oversight Committee's "Task Force on Declassification of Federal Secrets." This task force will look into declassifying information on the JFK, RFK, and MLK assassinations, UAPs/UFOs, the Jeffrey Epstein client list, the origins of COVID-19, 9/11, and more. But Glenn has a few questions, including whether getting Congress involved will slow the process down. Rep. Luna clears up the confusion and says that Trump appointees, like AG Pam Bondi and, hopefully, FBI Director Kash Patel, will still make the big decisions. Plus, she addresses criticism of her promise to subpoena witnesses related to the JFK assassination.

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GLENN: Anna Paulina Luna is with me now from Congress.

She's just been appointed to lead the task force on declassification of federal secrets. Anna, welcome. How are you?

ANNA: Hey, Glenn. Happy to be back on. Thank you!

GLENN: Okay. Now, I just have to say, yesterday, unbeknownst to me before you are appointed, I was on a show with Patrick Bet-David.

And I said, within 15 days, they are going to release the client list for Jeffrey Epstein. No way! That can't be true. And I said, I'm telling you, Kash Patel, I talked to him over the summer. He is for radical transparency. It's in the hands of the director of the FBI.

I think he does it day number one. Let's give him a few days to settle in. They didn't believe me. They said, we're going to track this.

So, Anna, you're going to make me look bad.
And I don't care if lives are destroyed or whatever. But you can't make me look bad.

VOICE: No! You know, we actually also sent a letter yesterday to the Department of Justice. As you know, Pam Bondi is heading up that organization, and we also asked for it there. But I also -- I'm in the same belief, that Kash will get confirmed.

I think he will absolutely be pushing for radical transformation. I also too like to point out, you know, at the same time, that we're basically announcing our press conference at the declassification passports, we actually also found out that the SPI just so happened to locate thousands of pages of previously undiscovered JFK files.

So, look, I know a lot of people are like, well, the American people need to see the information first, and you actually will see it.

It will be declassified. But the reason why we're doing the task force is, A, just because President Trump signed an executive order doesn't mean that bureaucrats and even Intelligence agencies won't attempt to block it.

So we want to make sure that's followed through. We do have punitive authority to hold them accountable, if they don't, A.

And then, B, I think it's incredibly important to look at the evidence that we know now. Which is sure as heck a lot different than what they had even 60 years ago, and what we're finding. What we're finding, and from what I have looked at.

To stuff that's already out there. Also, too, taking into account, many of the doctors that were actually at that initial responding -- or at that initial hospital. I do think that there were two shooters.

And I think the whole Magic Bully theory that the Warren commission pushed, I think that was faulty.
I know another president at the time, also believed that that was a faulty theory.

And so, you know, I'm eager to accommodate this. I know that there's many Democrats and Republicans that also want to get to the bottom of this.

And I am simply asking the questions that every American has been asking for decades.

GLENN: So I have a very good friend, Paul Biets (phonetic), who has the museum of the American soldier in Texas. And he had -- he spent a long time to get the exact right gun, the way it was modified. A scope and everything else, and he just had it redone. And I have to tell you, I've held it.

I will take it out to the range next week. I've held the gun, looked through the scope.

I just don't think you could do it. I mean, it's just so difficult!

ANNA: There were reports from doctors at the time, some of which were first and second-year med students who were at the hospital, in the room where Kennedy was brought. And they reported an entry wound in the neck. From some of the footage that you can see.

Video of Kennedy being shot.

But also the doctors that ran the autopsies at Bethesda, Maryland, had reported seeing an entry wound in the back. And so we're talking about multiple shots here.

I think the whole idea that they would try to just ignore the evidence, or at least try to bury that, and not even answer the question. Is suspect to me. And so I think the whole idea of wanting to push against declassification or even trying to pooh-pooh the evidence that has now been brought to the forefront.

Look, the obligation of the US government to release this to the American people -- Kennedy was arguably one of the most popular presidents, and he was assassinated.

So why did they try so hard to push back against any questioning?

And that's where I come in.

And where the task force comes in.

You know, I'm also telling people, if you're seeing people with large -- especially, pushing against declassification or attempting to discredit. And I thought, immediately after my press conference, try to discredit the efforts of Congress to actually follow through and get this done.

In my opinion, bad actors are just on both sides. If you really have nothing to hide, then you should not be afraid of the questioning.

You shouldn't be afraid of information getting out to the American people.

GLENN: Let me push back on a couple of things, just from, you know, playing devil's advocate.

ANNA: Yeah.

GLENN: Why would you start with the JFK? Why is that even important?

It happened a year before I was born. Yesterday was my 61st birthday. How is this relevant? How is this relevant?

ANNA: I think -- so when we chose to kind of go through the timelines. It's the MLK files and the JFK files that are going to be released first.

So we wanted to help go through that information. And then also clip some of the historical narratives that were painted on these assassinations.

Obviously, confirming -- or holding hearings to actually present you evidence, I think is important for knowing and fully understanding the story, right?

So that's the first thing.

GLENN: Are these going to be open hearings?

ANNA: Yeah. These are all open. And the reason I want them open. Is because I think the American people will go through the evidence. I am also going to be doing something similar to what I did, to the UAP hearings, which allowed people to ask questions. We're also bringing in experts.

There's a few individuals that I want to bring in. From the previous investigations. That actually were pointing out some pretty incredible evidence, that pointed potentially second shooter.

And they were pooh-poohed. And I think those people deserve a platform.

And if we find anything, it's -- you know, having Kash confirmed is incredibly important. He's also going to bring forward -- I would argue, that have been hidden from the American people.

So this is obviously a big effort. We're not perfect. But we do know that the American people deserve this.

And what we're fighting for is total and complete transparency.

GLENN: The other pushback question I have. And this one is actually pretty sincere from me.

And that is, once we get Congress involved. Then we're re-litigating everything.

The more Congress gets involved, the slower it will happen.

And the higher the percentage is.

It's just not going to come out. We will just get pages and pages of redacted crap.

LINDY: Well, so the whole purpose and objective of this task force is to actually ensure, with President Trump's executive order. That the agencies and the bureaucrats in those agencies, do exactly what that executive order says, which is to declassify it.

So we're not going to be siloing or holding any information, that won't be available to the American people.

So this is all going to be out there.

You will be able to go through it yourself. It will be online from what I gather.

Similar to how they've declassified previous documents from the FBI and the CIA.

So, again, we are simply, reopening the investigation with new evidence. Also, bringing in credible witnesses that will be verified and confirmed via House Oversight, the committee itself.

And we are going to be opening this up to the American people.

So you will access to the same documents that we are looking at.

We are simply ensuring, we will not get blockaded. Or this information is not siloed.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

And when do we get to the things?

By the way, the answer for me, the answer to my first question to you, was, it's relevant. Because I think they've been doing this kind of stuff forever.

And it shows a pattern. If they were doing it in 63. What are they doing now?

I just don't think -- go ahead.

ANNA: You know what is interesting is, if you ask those questions. There are some people.

And to be clear, these people largely exist in the media. And they're largely bad actors.

When you have someone, instead of answering the question, and having a respectful dialogue. To discredit something as a conspiracy theory or try to gaslight into you thinking, you should not be asking the question. That's when you know they are hiding something.

GLENN: Right.

ANNA: So I've talked to many Democrats. Many well-known Democrats. That are just like, we want in on this task force. Because we have questions.

And it just doesn't sit right. Look, this -- this entire task force. I don't believe that this would be possible. Had President Trump not gotten into office.

Had our CIA director not been confirmed. Had there not been people placed in positions of power, that are true ideologues like you and I.

You know, to be clear, I think that also Marco Rubio played a part at -- the Secretary of State's office.

I think that, you know, there are going to be many people. And some of these investigations that will at least give us access to whatever information.

Look, we've asked to declassify everything I've list in that press conference.

COVID-19 origin. 9/11 files. Look what just came out yesterday.

We find out that the FBI was basically ordering lunch for someone that was working with the pilots that crashed the plane into the twin towers. I mean, that's ridiculous. And that's all coming out now.

And that's why we ask these questions on the 9/11 files.

How could it have been prevented? How much did the government truly know?

I mean, look, I could care less if people think I'm crazy for doing this.

I can tell you, I am joined by many high-profile people in Congress, Democrats who have the same questions. And so we are not going to stop.

GLENN: Jeffrey Epstein. When is that coming out?

ANNA: Well, I have the letter out to Pam Bondi. I know Kash Patel has been supportive of it.

So hopefully, once they're confirmed, previously they said that the Epstein list could not be released. This is mind you, under Biden's Department of Justice because there was an open case.

Right? That's what they kept pointing to.

You hear that Pam Bondi. Before she was confirmed.

She called for the release of the Jeffrey Epstein client list. So we're pushing for it. Go ahead.

GLENN: So will Pam and Kash be the ones to make the decision, we're going to release it? They will be the ones.

ANNA: Yes, they will be the ones.

Again, I'm going off what we were told as the previous administrations. But what they were saying, that there was an open investigation.

So I believe that Pam has the authority to release that. And, look, I don't believe that any of that should have been classified.

If there are people that were doing bad things. We should know about it.

GLENN: It's unbelievable.

I mean, radical transparency.

It is the only thing that will heal our nation.

Is if we deal with all of the corruption that we have been dealing with. That we know has happened.

And if we can get an honest look.

You know, maybe. Maybe the Warren commission was right.

I don't know.

CAROL: We should be able to know that, and look at the evidence for ourselves. Yes.

GLENN: Yes. All of the evidence. All of the evidence. Without protecting anybody.
Anna, thank you.

It's got to be -- what was it like to be -- did you get the call from the president?

How did this work?

ANNA: Initially, in full transparency, this was actually supposed to -- the task force looked a little bit different. And I chose to expand it. Because even our investigators said, there's a lot here. If we're truly -- our absolute objective is to begin restoring trust in the relationship with the American people.

We have to go into these, you know, different theories. Going to these cases. And investigate. And actually find the truth. And let the American people decide.

I agree with them.

Also, Glenn. There were two other members that were potentially going to be taking over the initial task force.

And they turned it downed, because there was a climate of fear, that it was considered dangerous territory.

And what I will tell you, I do not believe that it's dangerous territory. Because we have, you know, the 800-pound gorilla in the White House, and our allies in the Intelligence Agencies. That are pushing for this.

So it's not just one person. I think where you had, you know, previous historical -- it was one person that was leading up the charge.

But when it's a group effort pushing for this, it's -- it's a systematic change that occurred.

And so in my opinion, I think I'm going to be okay.

But, you know, a lot of people. I had a reporter that called me actually, a very well-known reporter from Fox News yesterday said, it's interesting.

One of the initial reporters that had reported that there were three shots heard at the JFK assassination. One that was -- one of the prizes for writing. And he actually committed suicide several years later.

Stuff like that has happened in the past. And I just -- I'm in the perspective and belief, that right now, we have a very small window of time. To bring true change. You see everything happening with USAID.

Mike Benz has been uncovering a lot. Elon Musk has been uncovering a lot.

But there are a lot of good people that are really cleaning the system. You saw 40,000 federal employees resigned. Or not resigned, but chose to leave the workforce.

So you're seeing a big change happen, and I'm not saying that this is a complete fix. But it definitely is going to change I think our country long-term and historically.

I'll also tell you this, Glenn. Yesterday, after we made the announcement, I felt a massive orchestrated campaign, specifically coming from a lot of other people that had typically been political on social media. That were trying to discredit what I was saying about potential witnesses, and trying to spin it.

And the reason why they were doing it, is because the Warren Commission presented a faulty theory on the bullet. The magic bullet theory.

To think that that was how Kennedy was taken out. And the Texas governor --

GLENN: But they were -- they were saying, nobody is alive. So who were you going to --

ANNA: Yeah, that's not true. First of all, I was using the Warren commission, as an example of the commissions that have been set up. The hearings that have been set up. But who we are actually looking to subpoena. I don't want to say their names yet.

GLENN: No. No. No.

ANNA: Are individuals that, A, were -- are at Bethesda, in the room during the 8:00 p.m. autopsy that the military did. Individuals that were on the assassination board, that that did not agree with the findings initially with the new evidence coming out. I think that they will -- it will reflect their government employees, that should pass backgrounds. And then there's another individual who is going to be very key, in I think resetting the narrative upon Kennedy.

GLENN: Interesting. Anna, thank you so much. Interesting.

And you sound like you are. You know exactly what you're walking into. There's a new stat out this morning.

Over three times more people in DC are Googling criminal defense lawyer than anywhere else in the US right now.

So you've got a lot of people who are freaking out.

Keep up the good work.

God bless you.

Thank you.

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The REAL Reason Democrats are TERRIFIED of Elon Musk & DOGE

Democrats are mad that President Trump is trusting Elon Musk with so much. Glenn explains why it’s dumb for them to whine about Elon being an “unelected billionaire” and getting rid of USAID – which isn’t even an “aid” agency. Plus, Glenn reviews how Democrats tried to force a security guard to let them into the Department of Education: “It’s quite amazing how these people are so freaked out. They’ve got to cover their tracks!”

Transcript

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GLENN: So Bret Baier asked Donald Trump if he trusts Elon Musk. Cut nine.

DONALD: I don't know if it's kickbacks, or what's going on.

Look, I ran on it, and the people want me to find it, and I've had a great help with Elon Musk, who has been terrific.

VOICE: You say you trust him?

DONALD: Trustee Elon, oh, he's not gaining anything.

In fact, I wonder how he can devote the time into it, he's so into it.

But I told him to do that. Then I will tell him, very soon, like maybe in 24 hours, to go check the Department of Education. He will find the same thing.

Then I will go to the military. Let's check the military. We will find billions. Hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud and abuse. And, you know, the people elected me on that.

GLENN: He's absolutely right about this. I don't know how everybody is squealing.

First of all, you know, he's an unelected bureaucrat. Well, almost all bureaucrats are.

I don't know if you --

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: If you follow that. But, you know, the Treasury Secretary, is also somebody who, you know, wasn't voted in.

Unelected bureaucrat.

He was appointed by the president to do this.

And we're going to -- we're going to find out about what's happening with this judge. See if it's overruled. Did you hear about what happened with the judge over the weekend, with the Treasury Department?

PAT: Yeah. Where they blocked going into the treasury books. Which --

GLENN: It was so -- it was so poorly written, that they didn't even differentiate between Elon Musk's people, and the Treasury secretary.

PAT: Right.

GLENN: So as it's written, the Treasury secretary can't even look at any of the data.

PAT: It's incredible.

He also, the judge who did the block.

Also didn't mention what law they're violating. He just said, it's violating the law. What law is being violated here?

GLENN: What law? What law?

PAT: This is a person appointed by the president to look into this.

So I don't see how that could violate any laws.

GLENN: No. No.

I mean, and who is not for looking into all of this stuff?

Honestly, I mean, you know, I can't wait until he gets to the Pentagon. Because how are the Democrats going to say, that we somehow or another, are, you know -- we don't care about national defense? We care about national defense!

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: I also care about fraud. You know, it's -- the same thing with all of this stuff about aid.

First of all, aid, USAID, it's not aid. It's AID. Okay? It is for international development. That's what that's for.

It's not an aid program. Or an aid agency.

We have aid agencies. That's not one of them.

This is soft power.

And, quite honestly, it is from the beginning, been a CIA operation.

So how are -- I'm not against aid.

I'm against corruption. And I'm also against a lot of this soft power being done, that nobody knows about.

Why are we just finding out about this stuff?

And what we going to find in the Pentagon, oh, my gosh. We're going to find really bad stuff in the Pentagon. Really bad.

PAT: And none of us is against aid. It's just the aid that is being dispersed to people that you mentioned isn't aid.

And the other thing, it's not government agencies, that should be doing this.

It's individuals who are tasked with charity.

GLENN: No!

PAT: And helping others.

We're the ones, individual choice. To -- we shouldn't be forced!

Once you're forced into it, it's not charity anyway.

GLENN: No. It's not.

PAT: So I don't understand how all of the responsibility for aid worldwide is now on the US government.

That's not the way it's supposed to be.

GLENN: Nope. Nope.

And I don't know if you saw this.

But the NIH. They're going crazy now.

Because the NIH. When Trump's people first came in.

They said, we're going to cut the maximum indirect cost rate for research institutions.

Now, most people read that. And they don't even understand what that is. That means, how much of this is going?

How much of 1 dollar is going actually to the program, of research, and how much is going for overhead?

Again, we told you before, any charity that is 85 cents on the dollar. Is one that you start to look at.

If it's 80, 75 cents. You're getting a bad rating for that.

This is 60 cents on the dollar, goes to the management.

Goes to overhead costs.

I want 40 cents on every dollar? You think that's wise?

This is going to save us billions. They're predicting now $9 billion for this project alone. $9 billion.

So go ahead and play cut two, here.

If members of Congress -- peoples cut 12.

This is members of Congress, trying to get into the Department of Education over the weekend.

VOICE: Do they know that --

VOICE: Ask the question again. That's important.

VOICE: Were you told. Are you making the decision to stand in front of the store, on your own behalf. On behalf of the Department of Education.

GLENN: This is the security guard.

VOICE: So everybody is --

VOICE: We're doing our jobs.

GLENN: Okay. So here they are, members of Congress trying to get in, trying to break into the Department of Education. It's closed for the weekend. And they say, they're doing their job. And they're questioning the security guard. Why aren't you letting us in. And all he said, it's not going to happen. Not today. It's not going to happen. You're not going in.

It's quite amazing how these people are so freaked out, they've got to cover their tracks.

I'm convinced that's what it is.

Here's Donald Trump responding to this. Cut 13.

VOICE: Democratic lawmakers trying to get into the Department of Education earlier today.

VOICE: Oh. I see the same ones.

I see Maxine Waters.

A low-life. I see all these people. They don't love our country. They don't love our country.

We want great education. So they ranked 40 countries in education, we're ranked dead last. Dead last.

But the good news is, we're number one in one category. You know what that is? Cost per pupil. We spend more per pupil than any other country in the world.

You look at Norway, Denmark, Sweden, various countries all up and down, Finland. China does very well in education, and then you look at us.

We spend much more money than they do per pupil than any other way. But we spend much more money than they do, and yet we're ranked this year, Biden's last year -- congratulations, Joe. We're ranked dead last. So what I want to see is education -- number one, I like choice. We all like choice.

But beyond choice, long beyond choice, I want to see it go back to the states, where great states who do so well, have no debt, they-re operated brilliantly. They'll be as good as Norway or Denmark or Sweden or any of the other highly ranked countries. They will -- I figure 35 to 38 states will be right at the top.

And the rest will come along. They'll have to come along, competitively. And, by the way, we will be spending --

GLENN: I will tell you -- I will tell you that it feels a little like when the allies marched into Germany, and the Germans were burning all of their documents to hide all the crimes.

It kind of feels a little like that.